Basic Idea

It seems to me that there should be a scan probe able to detect a cloaked ship sitting in space for endless hours.

It seems to me that there should be an entire thread about this already.

I'm an AFK cloaker, rely on it a lot actually...

*sigh*

Still agree with OP.

It seems to me that there should be a scan probe able to detect a cloaked ship sitting in space for endless hours. The idea is that a cloaked ship bends light around it's hull in order to be invisible to the naked eye, and also manipulates the fabric of space to avoid the detection of its mass via ships scanners.

How about Boogeyman detection systems while we are at it?


It seems to me that the Boogeyman is a much more realistic threat than AFK Cloakers.

AFK Cloakers are both AFK AND CLOAKED...meaning there is no threat AT ALL.

Now the Boogeyman...that mother****** can literally be anywhere. Hes probably under your desk right now, and you wouldn't know it. That's right..that scary mother****** is gonna eat your *** when you least expect it. Make a detection system for that!

Id rather see 4 AFK Cloakers in local and know theyre there then have 1 Boogeyman anywhere near me.


Can you imagine if the ******* Boogeyman learned to be a ninja? OH ****! I just **** myself thinking about that its just that ******* scary!

Learn to control your own fear of the unknown, and in that you will defeat the AFK Cloaker.

How about Boogeyman detection systems while we are at it?


It seems to me that the Boogeyman is a much more realistic threat than AFK Cloakers.

AFK Cloakers are both AFK AND CLOAKED...meaning there is no threat AT ALL.

Now the Boogeyman...that mother****** can literally be anywhere. Hes probably under your desk right now, and you wouldn't know it. That's right..that scary mother****** is gonna eat your *** when you least expect it. Make a detection system for that!

Id rather see 4 AFK Cloakers in local and know theyre there then have 1 Boogeyman anywhere near me.


Can you imagine if the ******* Boogeyman learned to be a ninja? OH ****! I just **** myself thinking about that its just that ******* scary!

Learn to control your own fear of the unknown, and in that you will defeat the AFK Cloaker.

AFK Cloakers are both AFK AND CLOAKED...meaning there is no threat AT ALL.

Most of the cloaking ships I see are alts with just enough SP to fit a cloak and a cyno. They never have to be looked after

so your suggestion is to go PvE in a fleet that can take down the 15 supercarriers that could be dropped on us in an instant with no warning? yeah great.

so your suggestion is to go PvE in a fleet that can take down the 15 supercarriers that could be dropped on us in an instant with no warning? yeah great.

If we were in WH space and you couldnt just put up a cyno and call in a fleet i'd completely agree with you, but the truth is that we arent and you can.

There are two problems with cloaking devices:

1. They provide you absolute security - you turn it on and never have to worry because it is statistically impossible for other people to find you.
2. They provide a no opportunity cost hunting ground - Most of the cloaking ships I see are alts with just enough SP to fit a cloak and a cyno. They never have to be looked after (see problem #1) and can provide limitless risk free hunting because they have all the initiative; they never have to commit. If they see a group they can kill they decloak and call in the gank. If they see a group thats too large or they dont have a gank on hand, they wait and nothing is lost.

You say the are AFK, but how do you know they are AFK, thus no threat?

How about Boogeyman detection systems while we are at it?


It seems to me that the Boogeyman is a much more realistic threat than AFK Cloakers.

For god sakes, all of you took this thread to a completely different direction than it's intention. If you want to debate cloaky afkers, go to another thread; this is merely a game idea I've had.

I only mention AFKers because of what I see as a game mechanics opportunity. This game is about cost benefit analysis of your actions. I merely see a scenario, where deploying technology that manipulates the physics of space around you, that presents an opportunity to introduce a fairly balanced mechanics to the game, as it relates to mods, science, and skills.

If you disagree with my mechanics or idea, as it relates to the game's current engine, then I am curious to see your insight.

WHAT THIS ISN'T is a debate about cloaky AFKers. If you want that, have it out in the "Warfare and Tactics"

you want to find cloakers.


If not an afk thread...well then you are facing the issue of ccp put these in game for a reason.

Force Recons to pick one...think hard about the word recon. This is hard to do when in some way you can be seen. Hence why you don't till they want you to. CCP added this and cloaking in general to be the unknown element to mix it up in eve.

One day when that 1 man deep in hostile space you will appreciate this. Until they if you ever go on an op where fc call outs for warp to's are spot on and stuff is going by smooth and by the numbers....it was probably one of many of your crews cloaked up scouts who got those BM's to not have you landing like crap all night and readjusting to fix that.

DISCLAIMER: This is, in fact, not a troll post. Please do not regard it as such.

I propose a new system that can be operated only by cloaked ships. The module can be fitted to any ship, has 1PG/1CPU and 0 activation cost. It will have a 30-minute spool-up time and once it has spooled it will have a 3-second cycle time. It cannot be activated in Empire.

What will this module do? I'll tell you.

When a cloaker enters a system and does the cloaking thing that he fitted a cloak to his ship in order to do, his module detects the cloak activation and is enabled. Then, the cloaker has the option to click that module and start the spool-up time. During this spool-up, the client cannot be interacted with at all. Any navigation, menu usage or typing in the chat channels will cancel the spool-up. However, if the pilot has gone AFK, none of this will happen anyhow. The spool-up will complete successfully.

Once the module has successfully completed its 15-minute spool, every 3 seconds it will emit a system-wide pulse that deals 945m damage across all four types. This will instantly obliterate every ship, every can, every rat, every missile and even deal damage to POS shields.

Once an AFK cloaker's System Denial Module has successfully activated, literally every single thing that comes into the system will die as soon as their gatecloak drops and the next pulse comes around. With zero activation cost, the affected system will be unavailable to all entities in EVE (except CCP in Polaris frigs with QA mods) until downtime.

Maybe with this, the cloak crybears will finally have a real reason to cry for detection methods.

the problem is not that u cant scan him, its the fact that u can see him in local...despite the fact that hes cloaked

Please explain to me how this system is a counter to the real greatest threats of all: AFK DOCKED IN STATION and AFK POS NESTING.


Wait...it doesn't do ANYTHING for those!?!?!?!? Mother of god.....