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brutalbutneutral
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Posted - 2014.01.08 12:22:00 -
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Rumors have it that new space is going to open up in comming expansions. My guess with all the TIDI that is happening in big fights CCP wants to use new technology (multithreaded EVE) for this space (or at least i hope so :) |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
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Posted - 2014.01.08 12:23:00 -
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Ramona McCandless
Epic Boo Bees
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Posted - 2014.01.08 12:25:00 -
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They should probably finish 1.0 first
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Alduin666 Shikkoken
Unholy Knights of Cthulhu
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.01.08 12:28:00 -
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Make more systems =/= Make a new engine
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brutalbutneutral
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Posted - 2014.01.08 12:46:00 -
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Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:Make more systems =/= Make a new engine
Not neccaseraly no, but they will never fix lag/tidi with the current software because of single threading. So building new (multithreading) technologie for new space seems pretty likely to me. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.08 12:51:00 -
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Making "EVE 2.0" is too hard and requires too much time and resources. CCP cannot stray from their "5 year roadmap" that gives us personal Stargates and wormhole space 2.0.
This is nothing more then a rumor...
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Alduin666 Shikkoken
Unholy Knights of Cthulhu
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.01.08 12:54:00 -
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brutalbutneutral wrote:Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:Make more systems =/= Make a new engine Not neccaseraly no, but they will never fix lag/tidi with the current software because of single threading. So building new (multithreading) technologie for new space seems pretty likely to me.
They aren't going to make a new engine for a handful of systems. Making a single shard run on two engines would be harder than just reworking the shard to all run on a new multithreaded engine, which CCP said that isn't likely to ever happen.
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Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.01.08 13:03:00 -
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Your guess is based on fundamental misunderstanding of how computers and technology in general work. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.01.08 13:06:00 -
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brutalbutneutral wrote:Not neccaseraly no, but they will never fix lag/tidi with the current software because of single threading. So building new (multithreading) technologie for new space seems pretty likely to me.
It seems immensely unlikely, and we're already on EVE 20.0 or somewhere thereabouts anyway.
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Ka'Narlist
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.01.08 13:09:00 -
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brutalbutneutral wrote:Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:Make more systems =/= Make a new engine Not neccaseraly no, but they will never fix lag/tidi with the current software because of single threading. So building new (multithreading) technologie for new space seems pretty likely to me.
No its not, it doesn't even make any sense. Why would they only run new systems with new software if they had any? |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2014.01.08 14:00:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Making "EVE 2.0" is too hard and requires too much time and resources. CCP cannot stray from their "5 year roadmap" that gives us personal Stargates and wormhole space 2.0.
This is nothing more then a rumor...
hahahaha 5 year road map.. hahahaha
Yeah, is this is same company that had the vision of WIS? |
Ssoraszh Tzarszh
Eschelon Directive
Universal Consortium
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Posted - 2014.01.08 14:02:00 -
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Eve Online version information:
version = 8.40
build = 681196
Working title and version: EVE Online: Rubicon 1.0.13
We went past version 2.0 a long ass time ago, the rebuilding of any part of the code has never meant there would be an successor to Eve Online in the past, and with how this game is not an 'AHUWAHUWAHIE I GOTS XP FROM KILLING BOAR' it makes no sence to alienate every player with more than a year old character in just dropping Eve Online and creating a brand new game that is the same as the old game.
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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
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Posted - 2014.01.08 14:08:00 -
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Wouldn't they need extra staff and offices and stuff?
Oh god. |
Ramona McCandless
Epic Boo Bees
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Posted - 2014.01.08 14:08:00 -
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Ssoraszh Tzarszh wrote: 'AHUWAHUWAHIE I GOTS XP FROM KILLING BOAR
Im being serious, your WoW jokes are covering my monitor in snerked coffee
Would read again +1
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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
Solar Assault Fleet
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Posted - 2014.01.08 14:37:00 -
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brutalbutneutral wrote:Rumors have it that new space is going to open up in comming expansions. My guess with all the TIDI that is happening in big fights CCP wants to use new technology (multithreaded EVE) for this space (or at least i hope so :)
So what do you think?
Adding a new feature and rewriting the entire game engine isn't very much related.
So I think you should ponder the difference before you invent your next rumour.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.08 14:39:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Making "EVE 2.0" is too hard and requires too much time and resources. CCP cannot stray from their "5 year roadmap" that gives us personal Stargates and wormhole space 2.0.
This is nothing more then a rumor... hahahaha 5 year road map.. hahahaha Yeah, is this is same company that had the vision of WIS?
I would hope you would have the ounce of intelligence necessary to discern how these two situations are more than a little different.
Seriously what the ****, ccp? If it 404s when I try to post why must I wait out your stupid timer?
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Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
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Posted - 2014.01.08 14:59:00 -
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brutalbutneutral wrote:Rumors have it that new space is going to open up in comming expansions. My guess with all the TIDI that is happening in big fights CCP wants to use new technology (multithreaded EVE) for this space (or at least i hope so :)
So what do you think?
Hi There,
Thank you for posting something very funny and with a complete lack of umm...sense.
Glad at least you have faith in the 5 year plan which a lot of people forget about and want everything NOW all broken and stuff like Incarna.
Now...as other people have said there would be no reason they would run the extra areas on different code...... If it works on the other area of space they would put it on ours too.
Therefore it makes no sense. |
Markku Laaksonen
EVE University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.01.08 15:10:00 -
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EVE 2.0 will use the Occulus Rift. However, it will only be playable during Fanfests where other players wearing Rift headsets will appear as spaceships. CCP will give us weapons (blunt objects, firearms, spatulas, what have you) and we'll literally kill each other.
It is the natural progression of things. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2014.01.08 15:16:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Seriously what the ****, ccp? If it 404s when I try to post why must I wait out your stupid timer? Welcome to my world, the post timer is borked, and it hates me with a vengeance.
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Bel Tika
Dirty Rotten Scoundrel's
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Posted - 2014.01.08 15:40:00 -
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EVE 2.0, no more hisec all the empires are at war all space is now null space, jove space has been turned into one small tutorial blob where none can enter but all leave an have to pick a "old" empire to FW for as a starter base after tutorials but may leave to join a corp/alliance in there wars.
Seriously need to blow up hisec an get rid of the pretense and illusion ppl have of safety being in it |
brutalbutneutral
Prepare To Meet Thy Doom
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Posted - 2014.01.08 15:43:00 -
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Themanfromdalmontee wrote:brutalbutneutral wrote:Rumors have it that new space is going to open up in comming expansions. My guess with all the TIDI that is happening in big fights CCP wants to use new technology (multithreaded EVE) for this space (or at least i hope so :)
So what do you think? Hi There, Thank you for posting something very funny and with a complete lack of umm...sense. Glad at least you have faith in the 5 year plan which a lot of people forget about and want everything NOW all broken and stuff like Incarna. Now...as other people have said there would be no reason they would run the extra areas on different code...... If it works on the other area of space they would put it on ours too. Therefore it makes no sense.
If it works on the new space then they would use it for normal space indeed. They need something to massive test it so this would be ideal.
also never loose faith |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
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Posted - 2014.01.08 15:48:00 -
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A new engine won't solve the lag either. |
brutalbutneutral
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Posted - 2014.01.08 15:51:00 -
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Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:brutalbutneutral wrote:Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:Make more systems =/= Make a new engine Not neccaseraly no, but they will never fix lag/tidi with the current software because of single threading. So building new (multithreading) technologie for new space seems pretty likely to me. They aren't going to make a new engine for a handful of systems. Making a single shard run on two engines would be harder than just reworking the shard to all run on a new multithreaded engine, which CCP said that isn't likely to ever happen.
You know that thingy when youre docked and you can walk in station? That is an entirely different engine on the same shard.
Or do you think the same rules aplied to spaceships are aplied to humans as well? |
Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2014.01.08 16:00:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Making "EVE 2.0" is too hard and requires too much time and resources. CCP cannot stray from their "5 year roadmap" that gives us personal Stargates and wormhole space 2.0.
This is nothing more then a rumor... hahahaha 5 year road map.. hahahaha Yeah, is this is same company that had the vision of WIS? I would hope you would have the ounce of intelligence necessary to discern how these two situations are more than a little different. Seriously what the ****, ccp? If it 404s when I try to post why must I wait out your stupid timer?
lol... bad isn't it when you try and defend CCP and their forums have a fit.
Also no, CCP are very good at having visions / plans / roadmaps, in fact they are pretty damn awesome at it, its just a shame that they then fail to implement them and give us something half finished. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:54:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Making "EVE 2.0" is too hard and requires too much time and resources. CCP cannot stray from their "5 year roadmap" that gives us personal Stargates and wormhole space 2.0.
This is nothing more then a rumor... hahahaha 5 year road map.. hahahaha Yeah, is this is same company that had the vision of WIS? I would hope you would have the ounce of intelligence necessary to discern how these two situations are more than a little different. Seriously what the ****, ccp? If it 404s when I try to post why must I wait out your stupid timer? lol... bad isn't it when you try and defend CCP and their forums have a fit.
I thought I was defending CCP. I was pointing out how the situations are different. Their vision for WiS was scrapped because of player outrage and overwhelmingly negative feedback, particularly since it was so closely tied to the Aurum/NEX Store scandal. By contrast their latest plan has been received rather positively.
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Frank Millar
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Posted - 2014.01.08 22:03:00 -
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Markku Laaksonen wrote:EVE 2.0 will use the Occulus Rift. However, it will only be playable during Fanfests where other players wearing Rift headsets will appear as spaceships. CCP will give us weapons (blunt objects, firearms, spatulas, what have you) and we'll literally kill each other.
It is the natural progression of things.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.01.08 22:03:00 -
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brutalbutneutral wrote:You know that thingy when youre docked and you can walk in station? That is an entirely different engine on the same shard. GǪexcept that WiS is handled separately from space, so it's not the same as having new systems.
brutalbutneutral wrote:If it works on the new space then they would use it for normal space indeed. They need something to massive test it so this would be ideal. No, it would be utterly stupid. If it can't be used for normal space, it can't be used, period.
For massive tests, there is Singularity.
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Batelle
Komm susser Tod
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Posted - 2014.01.08 22:08:00 -
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brutalbutneutral wrote:Rumors have it that new space is going to open up in comming expansions. My guess with all the TIDI that is happening in big fights CCP wants to use new technology (multithreaded EVE) for this space (or at least i hope so :)
So what do you think?
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Nariya Kentaya
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Posted - 2014.01.08 22:08:00 -
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Tippia wrote:brutalbutneutral wrote:You know that thingy when youre docked and you can walk in station? That is an entirely different engine on the same shard. GǪexcept that WiS is handled separately from space, so it's not the same as having new systems. brutalbutneutral wrote:If it works on the new space then they would use it for normal space indeed. They need something to massive test it so this would be ideal. No, it would be utterly stupid. If it can't be used for normal space, it can't be used, period. For massive tests, there is Singularity.
beyond being handled separately from space, isnt WiS STILL the CARBON Engine? just using different assets and mechanics, which is why characters still "float" on an XYZ axis instead of actually walking with any weight?
Also WiS is handled client-side as i recall (just a clarification of what Tippia said) |
Logan Revelore
Minimal Solutions
Aurora Irae
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Posted - 2014.01.08 22:19:00 -
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If you want your game to last 20 years there comes a point where you have to do an engine optimization. I know this can cost some years of development, but I believe it's necessary, especially if we want to bring EVE closer together with Dust and Valkyrie in the future.
I'm 80% sure that it has to be done eventually. |
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