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Avon	Posted - 2006.03.21 15:38:00 - [31] Originally by: w0rmy Originally by: Avon 3 is your IP Possibly, but in most cases not, its all dependant on router type/software an transport medium. Not always, I'd agree, but there is a better than fair chance. You should ALWAYS hide the first IP outside of your physical network if you post a trace in public. Always. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
w0rmy	Posted - 2006.03.21 15:39:00 - [32] Edited by: w0rmy on 21/03/2006 15:41:26 Originally by: Da Death hmm I wonder how I ping 87.237.38.200 or 87.237.38.201. Cant ping it at all, but have no problems at all Pinging ? [87.237.38.201] with 48 data bytes Timeout: No data received from target host. Timeout: No data received from target host. Timeout: No data received from target host. Timeout: No data received from target host. Timeout: No data received from target host. PING Statistics for 87.237.38.201 Start Time: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:32:31 5 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss This means there has been an accident on the information superhighway. Please follow alternate routes as directed by Alexis DeTocqueville Of course people whine, its cause your sig sucks
gfldex	Posted - 2006.03.21 15:47:00 - [33] Originally by: w0rmy So tell me, what exactly can you diagnose with ping, id be interested to know. A ping can tell you if the target host (or something that appears like the target host) answers with a ICPM echo response to a ICMP echo request. You also learn how much time went by between those 2 packets. What that _means_ is another story and mostly based on assumptions and wild guess. -- $ perl -n -e 'print "Stop blameing pirates! Oveur is the root of all evil!\n" if m/podkill\|lost my ship\|gank\|gate camp\|Verone/;'
w0rmy	Posted - 2006.03.21 15:49:00 - [34] Edited by: w0rmy on 21/03/2006 15:48:49 Originally by: gfldex A ping can tell you if the target host (or something that appears like the target host) answers with a ICPM echo response to a ICMP echo request. You also learn how much time went by between those 2 packets. Which is about as usefull as finding out the colour of a server. Of course people whine, its cause your sig sucks
Unuthiel	Posted - 2006.03.21 16:02:00 - [35] The OP's post is utterly meaningless in any useful way. He needs to be talking to his ISP in any case, not CCP. Signature size to big, please keep it under 24000 bytes - Petwraith
SkaffenAmtiskaw	Posted - 2006.03.21 16:08:00 - [36] Originally by: w0rmy Edited by: w0rmy on 21/03/2006 15:48:49 Originally by: gfldex A ping can tell you if the target host (or something that appears like the target host) answers with a ICPM echo response to a ICMP echo request. You also learn how much time went by between those 2 packets. Which is about as usefull as finding out the colour of a server. An apt analogy I'd say - if you know the colour of the server in a rack it makes it easier to find it. Long term ping and packetloss monitoring aren't going to solve the problem, but they're useful tools to help narrow down the search for a root cause. ______
Crusher166	Posted - 2006.03.21 16:14:00 - [37] Edited by: Crusher166 on 21/03/2006 16:14:42 Originally by: Sike Oh Originally by: Avon I think it is a little unfair to expect CCP to fix the internet. im still rofl'ing at that lol and wormy, there is no need to get on ur high horse about pings and pongs. ------------- My Video: Start wearing purple while being very nasty
D'onryu Shoqui	Posted - 2006.03.21 16:25:00 - [38] Edited by: D''onryu Shoqui on 21/03/2006 16:32:45 Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 21/03/2006 15:31:46 Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui Edited by: D''onryu Shoqui on 21/03/2006 14:56:37 my IP isnt on there unless you are refering to 1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.0.1 which is my routers internal IP, not the external IP my isp provides which would be used to connect to me. 1 is your NAT IP 2 is probably your CM internal IP (if it works the same way as NTL) 3 is your IP 4 is your BY proxy IP Added: I'm guessing Newcastle Upon Tyne, or somewhere close. none of them are my ip IP currently assigned to my router is 82.39.34.** and yes im from newcastle but that isnt hard to figure out seeing as how blueyonder have some of there routers named after the area of a city they are in ,i think there is a BY page with a list of them and what area the abbreviation stands for to. btw if you think you can find out my ip by port scanning that small range go for it and ill give you 10mil isk if you get it right
Kylania	Posted - 2006.03.21 16:28:00 - [39] Originally by: Kerosene I'm connecting from China Good news! You get your own server soon. -- Lil Miner
Avon	Posted - 2006.03.21 16:31:00 - [40] Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 21/03/2006 15:31:46 Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui Edited by: D''onryu Shoqui on 21/03/2006 14:56:37 my IP isnt on there unless you are refering to 1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.0.1 which is my routers internal IP, not the external IP my isp provides which would be used to connect to me. 1 is your NAT IP 2 is probably your CM internal IP (if it works the same way as NTL) 3 is your IP 4 is your BY proxy IP Added: I'm guessing Newcastle Upon Tyne, or somewhere close. none of them are my ip IP currently assigned to my router is 82.39.34.** and yes im from newcastle but that isnt hard to figure out seeing as how blueyonder have some of there routers named after the area of a city they are in ,i think there is a BY page with a list of them and what area the abbreviation stands for to. I didn't use any names, just the IP. For yor own safety you should still always block the first IP outside your network. Seriously. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Kaaii	Posted - 2006.03.21 16:34:00 - [41] Is there still a hotkey to check ping ingame? I know in beta there used to be, but thats been so long ive forgotten what it was. "..Id rather fall beside 10 lions, than stand with One thousand sheep.." Tradeing 101
D'onryu Shoqui	Posted - 2006.03.21 16:38:00 - [42] i think you got that by changing networkAdvanced=0 to 1 in prefs.ini
Avon	Posted - 2006.03.21 16:39:00 - [43] Originally by: Kaaii Is there still a hotkey to check ping ingame? I know in beta there used to be, but thats been so long ive forgotten what it was. Er yeah there is, but I can't remember it. ctrl+alt+shift+m or something. Not sure. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Locke DieDrake	Posted - 2006.03.21 16:48:00 - [44] Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui Edited by: D''onryu Shoqui on 21/03/2006 16:32:45 Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 21/03/2006 15:31:46 Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui Edited by: D''onryu Shoqui on 21/03/2006 14:56:37 my IP isnt on there unless you are refering to 1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.0.1 which is my routers internal IP, not the external IP my isp provides which would be used to connect to me. 1 is your NAT IP 2 is probably your CM internal IP (if it works the same way as NTL) 3 is your IP 4 is your BY proxy IP Added: I'm guessing Newcastle Upon Tyne, or somewhere close. none of them are my ip IP currently assigned to my router is 82.39.34.** and yes im from newcastle but that isnt hard to figure out seeing as how blueyonder have some of there routers named after the area of a city they are in ,i think there is a BY page with a list of them and what area the abbreviation stands for to. btw if you think you can find out my ip by port scanning that small range go for it and ill give you 10mil isk if you get it right There are 255 possible answers, realisticly most Routers only route within the first 200. Therefore 200 port scans on the 26000 port looking for activity. Wouldn't be hard at all. Fortunately, I'm at work and don't have my network kit with me. As for the high ping times of the OP. Do a traceroute and find where the delay goes from 30ms to 500ms. THAT is the problem. Chances are it's the internet proxy that china forces between all ISPs and the outside world. ___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________
Helplessandlost	Posted - 2006.03.21 17:25:00 - [45] Most traffic on the "Public" Internet is not prioritized so a ping gets just as much priority as any other packet. On MPLS, also known as EVPN, there is prioritization but this is usually restricted to private connections for businesses etc. So traffic on port 26000 on the "Public" Internet has as much chance of getting through as ICMP traffic. Pings on the ôPublicö Internet can be used to bench mark and show trends due to this lack of prioritization but the down side is they also add to the latency and will ultimately slow you down (and others more) which is why it is better to stagger pings such as 1 min of pings every 10 min or so then to keep up a constant ping. Trace routes will give you information as stated above on where the issue is, provide this to your ISP and they should be able to help youà ------------ CCNP, CCDP, CCVP for my certifications plus 14 years xp ------------------------------------------------ "Don't take life too seriously, nobody gets out alive!"
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.03.21 17:42:00 - [46] Originally by: Avon I think it is a little unfair to expect CCP to fix the internet. why? someone has to sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:\|. - Teblin
Da Death	Posted - 2006.03.22 08:05:00 - [47] Originally by: w0rmy Edited by: w0rmy on 21/03/2006 15:41:26 Originally by: Da Death hmm I wonder how I ping 87.237.38.200 or 87.237.38.201. Cant ping it at all, but have no problems at all Pinging ? [87.237.38.201] with 48 data bytes Timeout: No data received from target host. Timeout: No data received from target host. Timeout: No data received from target host. Timeout: No data received from target host. Timeout: No data received from target host. PING Statistics for 87.237.38.201 Start Time: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:32:31 5 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss This means there has been an accident on the information superhighway. Please follow alternate routes as directed by Alexis DeTocqueville can u give me a link of alexis? But do not have any problem to connect to the server, I just cant ping it, maybe ISP block pings :s Selling: Absolution - Curse - Gleam S - BPC's - check my bio

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