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Maria Cournacovia
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Posted - 2006.03.21 16:48:00 -
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The hac prices are getting ridiculous guys, seriously will all you greedy producers STOP ripping those of us off and bring the prices down. im sure many people will agree with me here.
Comments welcome
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Raluque
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Posted - 2006.03.21 16:50:00 -
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Production cost is like 40-50mil iirc... Silly ain't it.. Saw a Cerberus for 210mil on escrow other day.. *shocking*
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Dr Feynman
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Posted - 2006.03.21 16:50:00 -
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Oh dear god not another one.
Order one from a tech II producer if you want a good price. Just have to wait.
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.03.21 16:52:00 -
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You do realise most hac's that are on the public market are resales and not producer prices they've been bought cheap sold high, its called supply and demand, now hush and go wait in a producer que or wait for reverse engineering in kali to floor prices.
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Bazman
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Posted - 2006.03.21 16:52:00 -
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Stop buying them at current prices ffs :P It's the only reason they are so high. Unfortunately, there are always going to be people that will pay 200mil for a HAC, so unless CCP actively increase supply theres no way anything will change.
Wait, i've just repeated what i've read on these very forums 20 times already :P
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.03.21 16:52:00 -
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Then stop buying them.
I dont know who gave the economy nubs the idea that we set the prices, but we dont... YOU, the consumers, set the prices. If its too high, you dont buy we lower, if you buy it up real quick we put it higher (we *ARE* into this for profit, this aint a charity). If we try to undercut each other too much, someone buys up the low-priced ones and resells them higher.
Welcome to a free market :)
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.03.21 16:53:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 21/03/2006 16:53:11
 Originally by: Maria Cournacovia
The hac prices are getting ridiculous guys, seriously will all you greedy producers STOP ripping those of us off and bring the prices down. im sure many people will agree with me here.
Comments welcome
Good idea.
Then us greedy resellers can rip you off instead.
If HACs sold for 50mil a go I could easily afford to buy them all up and resell at 150mil each.
100mil profit for me, 10mil profit for the producers.
Sorted.
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Maria Cournacovia
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Posted - 2006.03.21 16:54:00 -
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aye, deimos is now 185mill they WERE around 90 :O hence why me and my corp refuse to buy them now.
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Alyth
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Posted - 2006.03.21 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Raluque
Production cost is like 40-50mil iirc... Silly ain't it.. Saw a Cerberus for 210mil on escrow other day.. *shocking*
Well when it stops being a case of 20 cerbs built every 36 hours, because thats how cerb BPOs there are and thats how long it takes to build one, costs will drop. Unless the suppliers can meet the demand of their clients without 8 month waiting lists there won't be any price drops unfortunately. It's a sad state of affairs but unfortunately there are only enough BPs to supply a 10k population (and thats pushing it) but we have a 25k population market.
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Abraxus
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Posted - 2006.03.21 16:57:00 -
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I got a deimos, cost me 110m, i bought it from NAGA. Why can't you do the same? I waited 3 months for it. If I was an impantient little ****** I would pay over the odds and pay the 185m
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.03.21 16:58:00 -
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Edited by: Alexis DeTocqueville on 21/03/2006 16:59:18
Originally by: keepiru
Welcome to a free market :)
If it was a free market I'd be able to pull a BPO out of my wazoo. Or at least work up to one. As it is now I rely on a lottery. Gambling. The antithesis of actual work.
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NotoMM
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Posted - 2006.03.21 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Raluque
Production cost is like 40-50mil iirc... Silly ain't it.. Saw a Cerberus for 210mil on escrow other day.. *shocking*
Hmm, I wonder if that is why the boss calls the HACs as primary first now?
To be serious, just use something else. One corpmate has started using a tier 1 battleship instead of a HAC. It has the oddest of setups but it is just as effective as the HAC she won't use cause it is too expensive to lose.
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WarGod
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Posted - 2006.03.21 16:58:00 -
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well i no longer intend on getting a hac till i see em LOWER then 100mill.
Think we should all get 2gether and kill every1 with a hac BPO 
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Leno
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Posted - 2006.03.21 16:59:00 -
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I sell my t2 ships at a ripoff price... why? b/c they sell and do so quickly.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.03.21 17:00:00 -
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there are stickies in market discussions post there
the family of this horse is currently trying to get a posthumous restraining order against whiners
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris
yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing
Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler
Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy
Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.03.21 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville
Edited by: Alexis DeTocqueville on 21/03/2006 16:59:18
Originally by: keepiru
Welcome to a free market :)
If it was a free market I'd be able to pull a BPO out of my wazoo. Or at least work up to one. As it is now I rely on a lottery. Gambling. The antithesis of actual work.
Free market is never balanced or fair so neh you wouldn't be able to unless you had a magical wazoo
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Maria Cournacovia
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Posted - 2006.03.21 17:01:00 -
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i h8 you leno 
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.03.21 17:02:00 -
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Edited by: Alexis DeTocqueville on 21/03/2006 17:02:53
Originally by: ToxicFire
Free market is never balanced or fair so neh you wouldn't be able to unless you had a magical wazoo
No, but it is free, and this one isn't. CCP controls the supply of BPO, creating a mixed command/free market economy.
Q-E-D. Go away, armchair economists.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.03.21 17:02:00 -
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Be like me. Use Moa or Caracal.
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Mag's
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Posted - 2006.03.21 17:03:00 -
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Rinse and repeat...
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.03.21 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Be like me. Use Moa or Caracal.
Its true, the best of pvp these days takes place with expendable T1 ships, its mostly rats that tend to use hac's and t2's for quick kills and getaways.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.03.21 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville
Originally by: ToxicFire
Free market is never balanced or fair so neh you wouldn't be able to unless you had a magical wazoo
No, but it is free, and this one isn't. CCP controls the supply of BPO, creating a mixed command/free market economy.
Q-E-D. Go away, armchair economists.
you called?
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris
yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing
Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler
Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy
Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault
Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.03.21 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville
Edited by: Alexis DeTocqueville on 21/03/2006 17:02:53
Originally by: ToxicFire
Free market is never balanced or fair so neh you wouldn't be able to unless you had a magical wazoo
No, but it is free, and this one isn't. CCP controls the supply of BPO, creating a mixed command/free market economy.
Q-E-D. Go away, armchair economists.
True but CCP is just acting the way development of new technology occurs in todays market, not everyone has the patents to every new technological device right away, and for a limited period a semi monopolistic market occurs because of it.
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Maria Cournacovia
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Posted - 2006.03.21 17:06:00 -
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i think hac prices would probably drop once the tier 3 bs's are released, people will tend to focus on those. or thats what i would believe to happen ? what you guys think?
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Maria Cournacovia
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Posted - 2006.03.21 17:07:00 -
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i hope..
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.03.21 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Maria Cournacovia
Edited by: Maria Cournacovia on 21/03/2006 17:06:50
i think hac prices would probably drop once the tier 3 bs's are released, people will tend to focus on those. or thats what i would believe to happen ? what you guys think?
i hope...
Depends if they actually fill some combat role rather than end up been something stupid like a BS version of the logistics ships, could you imagine that.
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Dolor Servorum
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Posted - 2006.03.21 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: keepiru
Then stop buying them.
I dont know who gave the economy nubs the idea that we set the prices, but we dont... YOU, the consumers, set the prices. If its too high, you dont buy we lower, if you buy it up real quick we put it higher (we *ARE* into this for profit, this aint a charity). If we try to undercut each other too much, someone buys up the low-priced ones and resells them higher.
Welcome to a free market :)
I'm not bothered by HAC prices. If peeps are willing to pay this much for it then gratz to the producers (or the resellers, who cares). I wish I had a BPO, and if I did I'd be doing exactly the same thing. I do want to stipulate one little thing...
Going all high-and-mighty "welcome to a free market" on the complainers is taking things a bit far. To buy up all the lower priced products and sell it much higher is called 'cornering the market'. And this, my free market lover, is STRICTLY forbidden in the real world. Prisons are filled with traders who thought they could get away with that. Don't mistake 'free' for 'cut-throat'.
A market where fishy things like this are not forbidden, and - the way the game is set up - almost encouraged by the game mechanics is not a fair free market economy. It is an awful lot of fun though. And that's why I love Eve. 
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Khatred
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Posted - 2006.03.21 17:13:00 -
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Edited by: Khatred on 21/03/2006 17:14:50
Now let's see why I can't help you:
1. Your constant whinings is music to my ears
2. Your constant whinings is music to my ears
3. I don't think I want a reseller to make money of my work
4. TBVFH (aka to be very ****ing honest) I long time decided that the Eve community as a whole does not deserve my dedication of setting up and maintaining a webshop or any other form of selling my ships but the plain ol' market.
5. Your constant whinings is music to my ears
6. I BOUGHT most of my bpos therefor I would use them as I see fit.
7. You forgot to also make a thread about the ebil pvpers that should STOP killing innocent travelers. I mean murder is allowed but ripping people of is not?
8. You are not forced to use a HAC. If CCP enforces you to use one, I might consider bringing the prices down.
9. You forgot to add that Alliances that own HAC bpos for their use only should also sell to you, Citizen number 764858
10. And last but not least, did I mention that your constant whinings is music to my ears?
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Mak'shar Karrde
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Posted - 2006.03.21 17:14:00 -
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Okay, so you pay 50 mil and get put on a two year waiting list.
Is that better?
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.03.21 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: ToxicFire
True but CCP is just acting the way development of new technology occurs in todays market, not everyone has the patents to every new technological device right away, and for a limited period a semi monopolistic market occurs because of it.
No, it's not. Because they're out of the supply/demand chain. If they don't release BPO's, they suffer no in-game consequences. There's no opportunity costs for THEM to release BPO's. They just type in a couple of characters into an SQL database and voila, they're magically conjured.
Yes, CCP has to be responsible to its customers, making it somewhat susceptible to economic principles, but you don't want subscription rates dictating the release of BPO's now do you?
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