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MrBlades	Posted - 2006.03.22 15:57:00 - [1] I'm having difficulty posting this response on the EO forums at present, so please feel free to view it on our own website. 5 ISK to the first person to make an ironic post. Eve Radio Response
Alexis DeTocqueville	Posted - 2006.03.22 15:59:00 - [2] You know, after awhile Blackhole Bob's insane overreactions get pretty old.
Avon	Posted - 2006.03.22 16:08:00 - [3] Edited by: Avon on 22/03/2006 16:09:01 Originally by: MrBlades I'm having difficulty posting this response on the EO forums at present, so please feel free to view it on our own website. 5 ISK to the first person to make an ironic post. Eve Radio Response 5 ISK for an ironic comment? Oh, hang on, don't need it now. I bought 100mil after looking at one of your ads.... The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Nee'kita Frist	Posted - 2006.03.22 16:08:00 - [4] I went "oh thats nice" then scrolled up the page a bit and saw the isk ads and went. "oh thats not so nice." -------------- I'm just bitter
MrBlades	Posted - 2006.03.22 16:12:00 - [5] Originally by: Nee'kita Frist I went "oh thats nice" then scrolled up the page a bit and saw the isk ads and went. "oh thats not so nice." Enjoy your new found wealth.
Nee'kita Frist	Posted - 2006.03.22 16:15:00 - [6] Originally by: MrBlades Originally by: Nee'kita Frist I went "oh thats nice" then scrolled up the page a bit and saw the isk ads and went. "oh thats not so nice." Enjoy your new found wealth. Did I say I bought any? No. I tell you what, you give me an everadio email addy something along the lines of "[email protected]" and then show me how to submit blocked ads/website to google and provide a location on your website for the list to be available to other fansites and I'll take an hour or two out of everyday to do that. (since all I do is mine anyway) -------------- I'm just bitter
Tiel Nova	Posted - 2006.03.22 16:15:00 - [7] As much as I don't like the idea of ISK sellers (As far as I'm concerned, gold farming ruined WoW), I don't think that's the issue at hand. The issue at hand is the fact that the dude complaining recieved a FREE host through EVE radio and then had the gall to criticize them on how they paid for it.
Avon	Posted - 2006.03.22 16:16:00 - [8] Originally by: MrBlades Originally by: Nee'kita Frist I went "oh thats nice" then scrolled up the page a bit and saw the isk ads and went. "oh thats not so nice." Enjoy your new found wealth. Darn it. Anyway, damn fine post. I doubt those ranting on in the last thread will take any notice, but at least you tried. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Nee'kita Frist	Posted - 2006.03.22 16:19:00 - [9] Edited by: Nee''kita Frist on 22/03/2006 16:20:04 Originally by: MrBlades I was refering to the 5 ISK Oh right. I thought Avon's post was far more entertaining than mine. (And I'm serious about the offer) -------------- I'm just bitter
MrBlades	Posted - 2006.03.22 16:19:00 - [10] Originally by: Nee'kita Frist Originally by: MrBlades Originally by: Nee'kita Frist I went "oh thats nice" then scrolled up the page a bit and saw the isk ads and went. "oh thats not so nice." Enjoy your new found wealth. Did I say I bought any? No. I tell you what, you give me an everadio email addy something along the lines of "[email protected]" and then show me how to submit blocked ads/website to google and provide a location on your website for the list to be available to other fansites and I'll take an hour or two out of everyday to do that. (since all I do is mine anyway) I was refering to the 5 ISK
MrBlades	Posted - 2006.03.22 16:20:00 - [11] Originally by: Nee'kita Frist Edited by: Nee''kita Frist on 22/03/2006 16:19:38 Originally by: MrBlades I was refering to the 5 ISK Oh right. I thought Avon's post was far more entertaining than mine. It was, but you got their first
Ms Freak	Posted - 2006.03.22 16:24:00 - [12] Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 22/03/2006 16:09:01 Originally by: MrBlades I'm having difficulty posting this response on the EO forums at present, so please feel free to view it on our own website. 5 ISK to the first person to make an ironic post. Eve Radio Response 5 ISK for an ironic comment? Oh, hang on, don't need it now. I bought 100mil after looking at one of your ads.... LOL Well to be fair to the guy at EVE Radio - i run several websites (which i wont shamlessley plug ) and it can be VERY expensive - considering what they do they need to try and cover costs as much as possible. Personaly there is little they can do about it there will always be a new add for Isk that gets through. Untill Google provide a way to stop adds by keyword it will continue. GJ EVE radio and keep it up.
Velsharoon	Posted - 2006.03.22 16:24:00 - [13] teehee Deriously Blackhole Bob does not look good in this, the cheek of it
Montague Zooma	Posted - 2006.03.22 16:45:00 - [14] Ya know, if you want to irritate the isk sellers...click on their Google ads and don't buy anything from them. They have to pay per click. ------------------------------------------------------------------- One noob. One corp. One complete waste of 1.6 million isk.
Shodai	Posted - 2006.03.22 16:51:00 - [15] Firefox AdBlock Plus Adblock Filterset.G Updater FlashBlock Kay.
FireFoxx80	Posted - 2006.03.22 16:58:00 - [16] Yup, the Eve sites arent to blame here, it's google. It's like saying... We demand that B&Q be shut down, as people buy spades, hacksaws, and tarpaulin from there to bury their wives.
Johnathan Roark	Posted - 2006.03.22 16:59:00 - [17] Has anyone ever tried emailing googles suppost and explaining the problem of those types of ads? Those ads are generally a copywrite violation, which google seams to take seriously. Corporation Management Improvement
Nee'kita Frist	Posted - 2006.03.22 17:01:00 - [18] Originally by: Johnathan Roark Those ads are generally a copywrite violation, which google seams to take seriously. I'm not entirely clear on what they are copying? They don't magically make ISK and then somehow put it in the game ya know. Its actual mishandling of intellectural property or something along those lines. -------------- I'm just bitter
ToxicFire	Posted - 2006.03.22 17:02:00 - [19] Tbh this issue has now got blown out of all proportion. I will say this to everyone, it has never been the job nor the responsibility of the community to enforce eve's eula and rules and regulations, that is the job of ccp and isd, otherwise the term vigilantism comes into play. In future people if they see an ad for isk should just petition it to ccp as it their problem.
dantes inferno	Posted - 2006.03.22 18:05:00 - [20] just goes to show that blackhole bob is much lower than any of these fan sites which have google ads, at least their not two faced enough to use someones services then slag them off afterwards..good post eve radio _____ This is a Stain Alliance Fighter. It is protecting the assets of Stain Alliance, and may attack anyone it perceives as a threat, Threat Level: Trigglarist Fundermentalist
Galazar	Posted - 2006.03.22 18:11:00 - [21] Quite frankly, i am shocked and disgusted by Black Hole Bob's violent verbal attack against Eve Radio, for obvious reasons. But yes, those who know me, know that i am far from easily offended, but that sir, was uncalled for. Especially after the services that eve-radio has provided you with, obviously somone from the eve-radio corp podded you. End of.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.03.22 18:12:00 - [22] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 22/03/2006 18:12:05 Originally by: EVE Radio In addition, IÆd just like to highlight one post in particular which narks me off, as quoted. Originally by: Blackhole Bob Our sites AD FREE and we are VERY EVE related and took in ALOT of traffic the past month greed causes isk crap sales... evegathering.com WILL never have ANY ADS for ISK ...EVER to all you fansite sporting google ads for isk or any ISK ad forsale for cash what so ever.... heres my sentiments.. your greedy fools...i avoid those sites once i see the ads...and never visit again...EVER if you have to run google ads to supposedly make money or any ISK ads for that matter...YOUR WRONG PERIOD and your website SUCKS period... who cares how good your site is...your greedy is all there is to it... by the way everything i need is in game and i rarely if at all need to go outside eve's offical site for any info on ANY fansite Considering Eve Radio recently supplied the streaming services to broadcast your Vegas event in association with Eve-NN, (850+ simultaneous 128kbps connections incidently) I find it appaling that you would vent your spleen in such a manner, in a thread so blatantly about us considering the expense and effort we went to to make it happen. Please make sure that all future events where a streaming presence may be beneficial you seek an alternate supplier as Eve Radio will have nothing further to do with you or Evegathering.com. Wow. Just... wow. [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
Jowen Datloran	Posted - 2006.03.22 18:17:00 - [23] Firstly I use Firefox and Adblock my self so it's been a long time since I've ever seen any adds from Google. Secondly I find the EVE Radio concept a very good idea and some times encourage others to listen too. But I hate cheaters, and in this case people who buy/sell isk and any encouragement towards it. Therefor after some consideration I did found the original OP to have a valid point. The post on eve-radio.com lists very well the reasons to why these adds are needed, but you've lost all my support after starting the post off with a personal insult and claim that any body who disagrees with you have some sort of personal vendetta against you. And you arrogant post towards Blackhole Bob doesn't do you any good either. I'll now write my own petition to have EVE Radio and all other sites who list Google adds removed as links from the front page. ---------------- Main as main can be. Freelance producer of: Spike M hybrid ammo (1k/unit) Damnation command cruiser (200m/unit) Now with BYOM deal, see bio for details.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.03.22 18:21:00 - [24] Originally by: Jowen Datloran Firstly I use Firefox and Adblock my self so it's been a long time since I've seen any adds from Google. Secondly I find the EVE Radio concept a very good idea and some times encourage others to listen too. But I hate cheaters, and in this case people who buy/sell isk and any encouragement towards it. Therefor after some consideration I did found the original OP to have a valid point. If you don't like cheaters, let your money talk. Donate 400 pounds a month, and EVE-Radio can drop the ads. Originally by: Jowen Datloran The post on eve-radio.com lists very well the reasons to why these adds are needed, but you've lost all my support after starting the post off with a personal insult and claim that any body who disagrees with you have some sort of personal vendetta against you. And you arrogant post towards Blackhole Bob doesn't do you any good either. Personal insult? That's exactly what Blackhole Bob was doing. His post was incredibly inflammatory, and worse than that, biting the hand that fed him. I don't think EVE-Radio could have written a better response. Originally by: Jowen Datloran I'll now write my own petition to have EVE Radio and all other sites who list Google adds removed as links from the front page. Good luck. CCP has stated in the past that they do not care about player petitions (i.e. /signed) whatsoever. [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
Nee'kita Frist	Posted - 2006.03.22 18:27:00 - [25] Originally by: Dark Shikari If you don't like cheaters, let your money talk. Donate 400 pounds a month, and EVE-Radio can drop the ads. I would like to donate but for some reason the paypal site has ceased to function for me. Anyone an expert on Mozilla and possible reasons why? (cookies enabled and accepted from paypal, it occasionally works but then ceases to function when it coems to payment sometimes) Originally by: Dark Shikari Personal insult? That's exactly what Blackhole Bob was doing. His post was incredibly inflammatory, and worse than that, biting the hand that fed him. I don't think EVE-Radio could have written a better response. BB's actions and comments have certainly heated this arguement (seen by my own example earlier when I thought MrBlades was jumping on my back but he wasn't (hi mrblades)) Originally by: Dark Shikari Good luck. CCP has stated in the past that they do not care about player petitions (i.e. /signed) whatsoever. I think he means hes going to use the support system to lodge a complaint or something. -------------- I'm just bitter
dantes inferno	Posted - 2006.03.22 18:30:00 - [26] Quote: But I hate cheaters, and in this case people who buy/sell isk and any encouragement towards it. Therefor after some consideration I did found the original OP to have a valid point. yes, the ads google allow for isk sales are not very good..true..but come of it, if people want to buy isk it aint hard to find...all they have to do is look at ebay and they will be 'encouraged' to do so, these ads are just one pebble in a landslide and not worth this overreacting from the communitys moral whiners (but i suppose they got to have something to moan about) Quote: The post on eve-radio.com lists very well the reasons to why these adds are needed, but you've lost all my support after starting the post off with a personal insult and claim that any body who disagrees with you have some sort of personal vendetta against you. did you reas the original thread? if i was in eve-radios place i would of belived the same..and would of responded the same way Quote: And you arrogant post towards Blackhole Bob doesn't do you any good either. okay..so eve-radio supplies blackhole bob with a service which im assuming cost a great deal, again assuming free of charge...only for him to turn around and write a very very degotorive post about eve-radio, in order to promote his 'perfect' site...ungraetful much? he deserved every word of that post and much much more Quote: I'll now write my own petition to have EVE Radio and all other sites who list Google adds removed as links from the front page. cool ill start one to have people removed from npc corps after 1 month and unable to post with alts....it will have just as much luck as yours _____ This is a Stain Alliance Fighter. It is protecting the assets of Stain Alliance, and may attack anyone it perceives as a threat, Threat Level: Trigglarist Fundermentalist
Lo3d3R	Posted - 2006.03.22 18:37:00 - [27] arr arr arr backstabbing, fingerpointing, pots, cattle's and the color black this thread has it all... Carebear Destruction - Rank (13) - Level 5 -
Jowen Datloran	Posted - 2006.03.22 18:42:00 - [28] Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 22/03/2006 18:45:55 Yes, by petition I ment an e-mail with questions on CCP's view on the case and an explaination towards their stance because I'm interested in knowing this. At not some of that /signed crap. I have no longer any part in this case, it's between CCP and EVE Radio if any. ---------------- Main as main can be. Freelance producer of: Spike M hybrid ammo (1k/unit) Damnation command cruiser (200m/unit) Now with BYOM deal, see bio for details.
Emmerich Steiner	Posted - 2006.03.22 18:50:00 - [29] Yeah it is kind of easy for Blackhole Bob to denounce website advertisments, when evegathering's business model is dependant on ticket sales. (business model is used loosely, I don't know if they are for or not for profit) Providing a service without charge to eve community is a great thing, and should be supported. But to go and complain about how a site is using a somewhat decent (google ads does need work) advertisment service to help offset costs associated with running the site, is undiscerning at least. Even though online isk seller advertisments on your site look bad, if you really think about it... It doesn't change much. The jerks are going to buy thier isk, irrelevant of them seeing an advertisment on a site. I severaly doubt anyone has had a revelation "OMG I Can Buy ISK!!! Awesome!" once seeing those advertisments. Everyone knows you can buy it, everyone knows that your not supposed too.. But people who are incapable of earning an honest isk, are just going to go to google and search "I'm a ****er, help me win eve (Buy ISK for Cash)" anyway. I wish eve would do another sting operation and bust some more isk selling operations, and throw the idiots into the bio reclamation vats, so the starving orphans can get thier protein delecacies.
MOOstradamus	Posted - 2006.03.22 18:51:00 - [30] Edited by: MOOstradamus on 22/03/2006 18:50:52 /me just sighs at A R S E H O L E Bob (as he's known on IRC) .. MOOCIFER Emerald/Alpha Oldtimer

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