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stingy CEO	Posted - 2006.03.28 08:15:00 - [121] UPDATE : dividends payed out till this day : 80 mil. 40 to Vanderkell 40 to Mr Bondy. I also have a fourth client : Taalo member of Goonwaffe and quite a young char. november 2005. He notified me that he will remain silent throughout this investment because he thinks the bunch of you are trolling tards. 400 mil received, 100 shares sent Also the alt 'pethane' who posted here about the remaining 700 shares turns out be serious about it. I will start negotiations with him. Seeing as therefore 'pethane' and 'kaylis tzu' seem to be both interested in the last 100 shares before stocksplit vote, I respectfully request them to contact me in a convo together this evening if they can. I suggest that 'tzu' checks wether he can raise capital today to bid against Pethane for the last 100 shares or not.
Joe	Posted - 2006.03.28 08:24:00 - [122] I claim that this Thread is Breaking rule 7 of the Forum Rules: 7. Trolling is prohibited. Trolling is the word used to describe a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting the members of the forum community. Posts of this nature are disruptive and do not convey a friendly attitude. This thread Insult's the intelligence of the Forum Community.
trading slave	Posted - 2006.03.28 08:29:00 - [123] There is a phrase I would like you all to just read and consider... "Innocent till proven guilty" Until Midori Annata is proven to be scamming, there is no reason to crap his thread with random accusations of scamming and cheating. If you are suspicious of his motives, way of doing it and whatever other reasons you feel you have to do this, well dont post at all.. simple isn't it? "Thief thinks every man steals"
stingy CEO	Posted - 2006.03.28 09:05:00 - [124] Edited by: stingy CEO on 28/03/2006 09:06:48 Edited by: stingy CEO on 28/03/2006 09:05:34 Thanks for that insight trading slave. very correct of you. NEW UPDATE : whilst I was organizing the days business a third person convoed me about the last 100 shares. They are now three rivals, and I will organize a bidding round in a few days when they all can make it on at the same time. Tszu and pethane , please subrscribe to the mailing list I sent you , so that we can set a date for the bidding. for the rest of you : 500 shares are sold, 500 are left. 200 of those are reserved for friends who helped me in the past. 300 I keep for now until after the vote. No need to express interest anymore for awhile. After the 5 current shareholders are nice and settled in, this company willl hold a vote (in which I will not participate) to decide wether we will split stock by a factor of 2,3,4 or not at all. Once selling of shares recommences after that it will be in smaller packs. volume of th epacks depend on the magnitude of the split. This means that at that poitn smaller investors will be able to hop in. I will keep bumping this for awhile with business results. After the vote a new thread will be opened (with a link to this one of course) with the new conditions. Thank you for your attention.
Usul Faust	Posted - 2006.03.28 10:01:00 - [125] this thread is the best thread ever. EVER. no skills, just luck.
stingy CEO	Posted - 2006.03.28 10:12:00 - [126] Can Vanderkell and Mr Bondy please confirm wether they have received their dividends ok till now and wether they have subscribed to the mailing list ? I think i sent you two the name of the mailing list but this morning was a total mess with all those people wanting the last shares, so i might've screwed up.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.03.28 10:30:00 - [127] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 28/03/2006 10:30:39 Originally by: trading slave There is a phrase I would like you all to just read and consider... "Innocent till proven guilty" Until Midori Annata is proven to be scamming, there is no reason to crap his thread with random accusations of scamming and cheating. If you are suspicious of his motives, way of doing it and whatever other reasons you feel you have to do this, well dont post at all.. simple isn't it? "Thief thinks every man steals" Ooooh, its an alt criticizing the forum community! Lets bet on what the chances are its an alt of the OP, and then ask the mods whether it is or not! You can't expect someone to believe you're innocent when you plant circumstantial evidence against yourself (alts, etc) [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
Vanderkell	Posted - 2006.03.28 10:45:00 - [128] I got 20 mil yesterday. So it goes as i expected. Just keep em comming. And STOP all that BS and stick to the rules of the forum !
Kuolematon	Posted - 2006.03.28 10:58:00 - [129] Ah I remember when I invested 1.5bil to profiting venture like this. .. I still miss those ISK's Unnerf Amarr! Proud member of Black Omega Security
Love Ya	Posted - 2006.03.28 14:49:00 - [130] Originally by: Kuolematon Ah I remember when I invested 1.5bil to profiting venture like this. .. I still miss those ISK's You are in the right thread if you want to loose some more.. LOL am i right Mr stingy CEO ? ---------------------------------------------- "Pod Ya" but still "Love Ya" "Run Rabbits Run"
stingy CEO	Posted - 2006.03.28 14:51:00 - [131] Edited by: stingy CEO on 28/03/2006 14:56:08 just for the record I will not respond to flames anymore for awhile, just posting updates on our activities. people calling me a scammer flat out again will just be removed by the mods as it breaks the rules of this forum. Thank you very much. current shareholders : Mr Bondy 100 Vanderkell 100 Taalo 100 Akila Rocs 100 reserved by stingy CEO for friends : 200 shares not for sale right now : 300 currently organizing a TS server to b used in the auction for last 100 free shares. will give TS access to those who whish to attend. msg me. current competitors : pethane; skydragoon ; Kaylis Tzu. Stop flaming now.
Sub rose	Posted - 2006.03.28 15:26:00 - [132] Originally by: Vanderkell I got 20 mil yesterday. So it goes as i expected. Just keep em comming. I'm not going to speculate as to whether this is a scam or not (although personaly I wouldn't give this Stingy guy a single ISK, no matter 400 mil) but just remember Vanderkell (if you are an actual independant player really investing in this scheme anyway and not just one of Stingy's puppets) that you didn't make 20mil yesterday, you only lost 20mil less of you original spends. Not until all 400mil is returned (if that ever happens) will you be really making money.
Vanderkell	Posted - 2006.03.28 16:15:00 - [133] Originally by: Sub rose Originally by: Vanderkell I got 20 mil yesterday. So it goes as i expected. Just keep em comming. I'm not going to speculate as to whether this is a scam or not (although personaly I wouldn't give this Stingy guy a single ISK, no matter 400 mil) but just remember Vanderkell (if you are an actual independant player really investing in this scheme anyway and not just one of Stingy's puppets) that you didn't make 20mil yesterday, you only lost 20mil less of you original spends. Not until all 400mil is returned (if that ever happens) will you be really making money. As stated earlier i can allways get my 400mil back, so yes i have allready made 40mil in my favor. Lets see in 30 days or so, who is laughing. Then i will have doubled my capital.
Sub rose	Posted - 2006.03.28 16:34:00 - [134] Edited by: Sub rose on 28/03/2006 16:36:11 Originally by: Vanderkell Originally by: Sub rose Originally by: Vanderkell I got 20 mil yesterday. So it goes as i expected. Just keep em comming. I'm not going to speculate as to whether this is a scam or not (although personaly I wouldn't give this Stingy guy a single ISK, no matter 400 mil) but just remember Vanderkell (if you are an actual independant player really investing in this scheme anyway and not just one of Stingy's puppets) that you didn't make 20mil yesterday, you only lost 20mil less of you original spends. Not until all 400mil is returned (if that ever happens) will you be really making money. As stated earlier i can allways get my 400mil back, so yes i have allready made 40mil in my favor. Lets see in 30 days or so, who is laughing. Then i will have doubled my capital. Can you get your 400mil back? All you have is Stingy's word that he'll give it you back should you ask, but if it turns out he's a scammer then his word doesn't mean sh*t. All I'm saying is that until sufficient time has passed that 400mil has been payed back then you're still potentialy at a lost so I wouldn't start bragging just yet.
Ranged Airman	Posted - 2006.03.28 18:37:00 - [135] Sub Rose, The only thing that allows us as humans to get anything is trust. So the investors are trusting in this guy, they can do what they want it's just highly unlikely you're going to change their mind. Some people like a little risk(or a lot in this case, haha), just let them go. You can be skeptical but what life all boils down to is trust. Anyways, I don't have 400mil and even if I did... I wouldn't invest =P Just playing around with some of the thoughts and comments here.
Sub rose	Posted - 2006.03.28 21:40:00 - [136] Originally by: Ranged Airman The only thing that allows us as humans to get anything is trust. So the investors are trusting in this guy, they can do what they want it's just highly unlikely you're going to change their mind. Some people like a little risk(or a lot in this case, haha), just let them go. You can be skeptical but what life all boils down to is trust. Thats a very nice sentiment and I agree that being able to trust people is often essential for mutual advancement but you paint a very rosey picture and life just isn't like that. Trust, like many other things, is something to be earned and often doesn't and shouldn't come too easy. I doubt these "investors" truely trust in this guy but rather have let themselves be convinved into believing they do simply because they badly crave whats being offered -> an effort free way to advance. Like I said, I'm not speculating on whether this is a scam or not but just wanted to warn people that Venderkells "profits" aren't actualy that just yet. Its just that the way he put it made it seem like he was trying to convince people that this scheme was safe which simply isn't the case. Thats just human nature for you though, when people have doubts about their situation they will naturaly attempt to draw others into the same risks so that they dont have to face the concequences alone and dont feel they were they only one tricked if things go sour. Just making sure the whole story is known ... plus I love playing devil's advocate
stingy CEO	Posted - 2006.03.28 21:49:00 - [137] Edited by: stingy CEO on 28/03/2006 21:51:12 Edited by: stingy CEO on 28/03/2006 21:50:09 very beautifully written. but don't they have chatrooms for this sort of thing miss? I'm trying to run a business here. Vanderkell can have his money back whenever he wants. He just hasn't asked yet. In fact, not that you guys are going to believe me, but I sent a mail to mr bondy today stating that his special treatment is over and that h will now get 20 mil per 48 hrs instead of the 10 mil / 24 hrs. Told him if he couldn't live with that that he could get refund asap. Now even if Mr Bondy replies to this CONFIRMING this, noone would believe it still. People are still convinced he is my alt or something, even though he is an eighteen month old char. For those of us who wwant to at least ascertain that my NEXT client isn't one of my naughty alts, they can come to the TS auction I am setting up soon, where the potential buyers will bid against eachother for the last 100 shares before the vote on the stocksplit. evemail me if you want to be there and I will reply with the rules of conduct for the auction and ip.
Jann Kilik	Posted - 2006.03.28 22:54:00 - [138] Hmm, interesting... Vanderkell Especially in light of him insisting he is no-one's alt.
Vanderkell	Posted - 2006.03.28 23:14:00 - [139] Originally by: Jann Kilik Hmm, interesting... Vanderkell Especially in light of him insisting he is no-one's alt. Indeed Im also GTar - and i bought Vanderkell who now is my main char. I created GTar only to start up a new account - i actual own 6 accounts at the moment. And NONE of my chars is any of those posting here in this thread - only Vanderkell. Now stop all those accusations, or Ill contact a mod with a list of those horrassing on this forum. Which isnt allowed and is ban reason. Read this http://www.eve-online.com/pnp/forumrules.asp and look at point 4 - 7 and 21. Now quit it.
stingy CEO	Posted - 2006.03.28 23:45:00 - [140] Vanderkell, Maybe on the upcoming auction you could come as well ? You are not obliged to anything of course, but if they hear us both talking... might do the venture some good ? Especially since mr Bondy might come as well IF he wants to bid on those shares... he did confirm interest to me about more shares..... ah well, just a thought.
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.03.29 00:23:00 - [141] Originally by: trading slave There is a phrase I would like you all to just read and consider... "Innocent till proven guilty" Until Midori Annata is proven to be scamming, there is no reason to crap his thread with random accusations of scamming and cheating. If you are suspicious of his motives, way of doing it and whatever other reasons you feel you have to do this, well dont post at all.. simple isn't it? "Thief thinks every man steals" Hey, an alt... This is me: This is my thoughts on your post: Any questions? Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.03.29 00:25:00 - [142] Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 29/03/2006 00:25:24 dbl Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
stingy CEO	Posted - 2006.03.29 00:54:00 - [143] Dear mr. " I have a guiding hand quote in my sig so i'm the l33t0r" stfu. learn how to read. I don't only use freighters , and I don't only use highsec. now begone and camp a gate.
Vanderkell	Posted - 2006.03.29 10:47:00 - [144] Just got 20mil in today. Im hosting the TS for the auction, so you could all come and hear that Stingy and I am not the same person. Evemail Stingy for details of the auction and TS.
stingy CEO	Posted - 2006.03.29 10:50:00 - [145] Dividends payed out 'till this day : 160 million. 60 vanderkell 60 Mr Bondy 20 Taalo 20 Akila Rocs
Sub rose	Posted - 2006.03.29 11:42:00 - [146] Originally by: stingy CEO Dividends payed out 'till this day : 160 million. 60 vanderkell 60 Mr Bondy 20 Taalo 20 Akila Rocs Or to put it another way .... Current relative financial standings since start of scheme: +1440 mil Stingy CEO -340 mil Vanderkell -340 mil Mr Bondy -380 mil Taalo -380 mil Akila Rocs Not a personal attack Stingy, just showing how the data can be spun both ways. If this is a truely genuine buisness venture and not a scam then I wish you all the best. I'll leave you be now
Lord WarATron	Posted - 2006.03.29 12:03:00 - [147] Long story short. If it is a scam, then you are protected by eve mods and will get your isk back. If it is not a scam, then laugh as you see isk come in. I was going to put in a bid for a share, but 400mil is a bit steep, 200mil would be more intresting. But thats life. I personally belive the money is being invested with NPC trading, or Minerals Trading, or a combination of both. In which case, good on you! --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE
Bartrum	Posted - 2006.03.29 13:08:00 - [148] Have you considered lowering the minumum amount of shares that are bought at a time Stingy? I'd be interested in investing but not at 400mill. 100-200 seems more reasonable to me, but then I am working with a limited capital at the moment and there obviously are people willing to pay the 400.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.03.29 13:22:00 - [149] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/03/2006 13:22:09 Originally by: Lord WarATron Long story short. If it is a scam, then you are protected by eve mods and will get your isk back. Not true. I emailed the mods the instant I saw this thread asking. I can't post the response here I don't think, but Wrangler specifically said that you are in absolutely no way protected from scams on the sell orders forum with the exception of timecards. [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
A'de N'ahten	Posted - 2006.03.29 13:37:00 - [150] Edited by: A''de N''ahten on 29/03/2006 13:37:59 Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/03/2006 13:22:09 Originally by: Lord WarATron Long story short. If it is a scam, then you are protected by eve mods and will get your isk back. Not true. I emailed the mods the instant I saw this thread asking. I can't post the response here I don't think, but Wrangler specifically said that you are in absolutely no way protected from scams on the sell orders forum with the exception of timecards. DS is spot on..... basically you are only protected if it involves real cash/credit cards at some point in the deal - ie Timecard sales or character transfers..... in all other situations anything goes so beware of 'too good to be true' offers!

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