Tidi doesn't go below 10%. The problem is, when tidi hits 10% the server load continues to increase past the point where the server is able to respond even with the extra time allowed. Which leads to delays in having commands processed.

HED-GP is so ****** that my 1 min aggression timer is still 1 min for almost a hour after i stopped shooting something, wonder how many people will stop to play the game if CCP don't fix those problems :/

So TiDi alleviates some of the lag but its ability to do so is negligible once you hit a certain point and at that point you just get normal lag, yea?

Yes and not only this but everything gets messed up.
For example I wanted to warp from spot A to spot B but after some minutes I got a fleet warp to C instead which happened after I clicked warp to B.
At spot B I clicked warp back to A but after several minutes and still nothing happening I tried to warp off grid to a beacon, several minutes later again my warp to spot A started instead. After landing on A I clicked warp to B (my original destination) and it happened pretty fast after 2 or 3 minutes.
After landing on spot B I tried to move towards the enemy but suddenly my warp to the off grid beacon started and I couldn't stop it.
This was a ~30 AU warp so I pressed Alt+F4 and did something else

And this is only a minor example for commands and modules getting messed up when the server enters such heavy stress situations.

How many will stop playing?
A small percentage of the blob-sec lemmings.

And how many will play the game?

Well, let's see.....
All of high sec will continue to play.
All of the wormhole crowd will continue to play.
All the low sec players will continue to play.
All of the non-sov null sec players will continue to play.

And the vast majority of the null sec farmers will continue to play.
And the cartel leaders will continue to play too.

How many will stop playing?
A small percentage of the blob-sec lemmings.

And how many will play the game?

Well, let's see.....
All of high sec will continue to play.
All of the wormhole crowd will continue to play.
All the low sec players will continue to play.
All of the non-sov null sec players will continue to play.

And the vast majority of the null sec farmers will continue to play.
And the cartel leaders will continue to play too.

I would rather have the server crash, tbh.

I would rather have the server crash, tbh.

People who complain about TIDI make me laugh. They're the same type who probably complain about traffic, not realizing that they, themselves, are a part of said traffic.

CCP have some of (if not the) most powerful servers in the gaming industry. Thousands of people can be on-grid in a single fight, far more than some games can even handle in their entire game world, let alone all together in one place. The TIDI system works reasonably well to accommodate all of them, up until you reach the extreme numbers.

Is TIDI a good system? Compared to what once was, yes, it is. Compare the time prior to TIDI, and compare it now. Fights can be much larger. But inevitably, people come along, whining, bitching, moaning, and complaining about how bad TIDI is. It isn't the best system, but the cost-benefit of its alternatives would make even Blizzard cower in terror.

If people want 4000+ pilot fights to be done without TIDI, they need to wait 5 or 10 years for the raw processing technology necessary to become affordable. Granted, by then, fights will probably be 6000+ people, and the situation will continue, simply because the necessary technology isn't affordable.

Until then, if someone doesn't like fighting under TIDI, don't. Nobody's holding a gun to your head.

Lol complaining about server being slow when there is almost 4k+ people in it fighting? You can't be this daft, can you?

People who complain about TIDI make me laugh. They're the same type who probably complain about traffic, not realizing that they, themselves, are a part of said traffic.

CCP have some of (if not the) most powerful servers in the gaming industry. Thousands of people can be on-grid in a single fight, far more than some games can even handle in their entire game world, let alone all together in one place. The TIDI system works reasonably well to accommodate all of them, up until you reach the extreme numbers.

Is TIDI a good system? Compared to what once was, yes, it is. Compare the time prior to TIDI, and compare it now. Fights can be much larger. But inevitably, people come along, whining, bitching, moaning, and complaining about how bad TIDI is. It isn't the best system, but the cost-benefit of its alternatives would make even Blizzard cower in terror.

If people want 4000+ pilot fights to be done without TIDI, they need to wait 5 or 10 years for the raw processing technology necessary to become affordable. Granted, by then, fights will probably be 6000+ people, and the situation will continue, simply because the necessary technology isn't affordable.

Until then, if someone doesn't like fighting under TIDI, don't. Nobody's holding a gun to your head.

I remember the endless complaints going on like "I warped on grid, my screen was black for 10 minutes and then I was in a new clone".

Hope CCP comes forward and apologizes for this terrible fail. I'm not even asking for all the dreads that died before they left the system that they were jumping from be reimbursed.
Just a simple: "We know it was terrible, we will do better, we are working on it"
I dont want any more mobiles or deployables or whatever, I started playing this game because of the big fleet battles,and this one was just outright depressing.

The game is multithreaded. You don't know what a "thread" is, do you?

People who complain about TIDI make me laugh. They're the same type who probably complain about traffic, not realizing that they, themselves, are a part of said traffic.

CCP have some of (if not the) most powerful servers in the gaming industry. Thousands of people can be on-grid in a single fight, far more than some games can even handle in their entire game world, let alone all together in one place. The TIDI system works reasonably well to accommodate all of them, up until you reach the extreme numbers.

Is TIDI a good system? Compared to what once was, yes, it is. Compare the time prior to TIDI, and compare it now. Fights can be much larger. But inevitably, people come along, whining, bitching, moaning, and complaining about how bad TIDI is. It isn't the best system, but the cost-benefit of its alternatives would make even Blizzard cower in terror.

If people want 4000+ pilot fights to be done without TIDI, they need to wait 5 or 10 years for the raw processing technology necessary to become affordable. Granted, by then, fights will probably be 6000+ people, and the situation will continue, simply because the necessary technology isn't affordable.

Until then, if someone doesn't like fighting under TIDI, don't. Nobody's holding a gun to your head.

Yes...

It's attached to a Tampon...

Lol complaining about server being slow when there is almost 4k+ people in it fighting? You can't be this daft, can you?

Their servers could be upgraded with some GPUs and recode the gameserver so most of processing is done on the GPUs. GPUs processing is 100x faster then CPUs and this could fix the TiDi because the GPUs could keep up with the commands quicker then the CPU can. But I don't see CCP doing this, which is sad.