Its % of normal time.

100% of normal time
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10% of normal time

1,564 people in local. Node bouncing between 96%-68% TIDI and at some point reached 100%. Good job CCP, I'd say that's progress, from the days in 2003 I remember where 20 vs 20 almost killed the server.

Kudos CPP.



UPDATE: Local @ 3,515 with 10% TIDI

Quick question. Were drones deployed when you were "only" 1564 in space?

CCP trying to log back in HED for ffing 45 min.

Sooooo CCP job well done........NOT, it sux!!!!!

our dreads still jumping and have anal-tunnels, but n3 fc's report about 70+ dreads are killed...
in dy- fight all jumped titans from pl side was loaded immediately.
any points?

http://clip2net.com/s/6CO2hO

nice fight, nice game, nice node fix...

Lol complaining about server being slow when there is almost 4k+ people in it fighting? You can't be this daft, can you?

WTT DUST for multithreaded EVE server.

Yes becouse CCP create this mechanic that people should come to one system, you can't do nothing about it right? If you want play sov game(main attribute of game). This game is broken

Which has nothing to do with the fact that there is almost 4k people in system and the server hasn't died.

If you want to discuss sov mechanics there a thread for it, this isn't the thread for that.

WTT DUST for multithreaded EVE server.

But seriously, how the **** can fighting in that soup really be fun? Would love an explanation for it from someone.

It isn't

But for some reason I'm trying for the second time now to reconnect into hed after rage quiting qbout this lag fest 2 hours earlier, dont ask me why

It isn't

But for some reason I'm trying for the second time now to reconnect into hed after rage quiting qbout this lag fest 2 hours earlier, dont ask me why

I'm watching this live feed and have to say that I really envy what you guys do there in Null. It's just monumental in scale and truly awe inspiring.

But seriously, how the **** can fighting in that soup really be fun?

Tidi doesn't go below 10%. The problem is, when tidi hits 10% the server load continues to increase past the point where the server is able to respond even with the extra time allowed. Which leads to delays in having commands processed.

HED-GP is so ****** that my 1 min aggression timer is still 1 min for almost a hour after i stopped shooting something, wonder how many people will stop to play the game if CCP don't fix those problems :/

So TiDi alleviates some of the lag but its ability to do so is negligible once you hit a certain point and at that point you just get normal lag, yea?

Yes and not only this but everything gets messed up.
For example I wanted to warp from spot A to spot B but after some minutes I got a fleet warp to C instead which happened after I clicked warp to B.
At spot B I clicked warp back to A but after several minutes and still nothing happening I tried to warp off grid to a beacon, several minutes later again my warp to spot A started instead. After landing on A I clicked warp to B (my original destination) and it happened pretty fast after 2 or 3 minutes.
After landing on spot B I tried to move towards the enemy but suddenly my warp to the off grid beacon started and I couldn't stop it.
This was a ~30 AU warp so I pressed Alt+F4 and did something else

And this is only a minor example for commands and modules getting messed up when the server enters such heavy stress situations.

How many will stop playing?
A small percentage of the blob-sec lemmings.

And how many will play the game?

Well, let's see.....
All of high sec will continue to play.
All of the wormhole crowd will continue to play.
All the low sec players will continue to play.
All of the non-sov null sec players will continue to play.

And the vast majority of the null sec farmers will continue to play.
And the cartel leaders will continue to play too.

How many will stop playing?
A small percentage of the blob-sec lemmings.

And how many will play the game?

Well, let's see.....
All of high sec will continue to play.
All of the wormhole crowd will continue to play.
All the low sec players will continue to play.
All of the non-sov null sec players will continue to play.

And the vast majority of the null sec farmers will continue to play.
And the cartel leaders will continue to play too.

I would rather have the server crash, tbh.

I would rather have the server crash, tbh.

People who complain about TIDI make me laugh. They're the same type who probably complain about traffic, not realizing that they, themselves, are a part of said traffic.

CCP have some of (if not the) most powerful servers in the gaming industry. Thousands of people can be on-grid in a single fight, far more than some games can even handle in their entire game world, let alone all together in one place. The TIDI system works reasonably well to accommodate all of them, up until you reach the extreme numbers.

Is TIDI a good system? Compared to what once was, yes, it is. Compare the time prior to TIDI, and compare it now. Fights can be much larger. But inevitably, people come along, whining, bitching, moaning, and complaining about how bad TIDI is. It isn't the best system, but the cost-benefit of its alternatives would make even Blizzard cower in terror.

If people want 4000+ pilot fights to be done without TIDI, they need to wait 5 or 10 years for the raw processing technology necessary to become affordable. Granted, by then, fights will probably be 6000+ people, and the situation will continue, simply because the necessary technology isn't affordable.

Until then, if someone doesn't like fighting under TIDI, don't. Nobody's holding a gun to your head.

Lol complaining about server being slow when there is almost 4k+ people in it fighting? You can't be this daft, can you?

People who complain about TIDI make me laugh. They're the same type who probably complain about traffic, not realizing that they, themselves, are a part of said traffic.

CCP have some of (if not the) most powerful servers in the gaming industry. Thousands of people can be on-grid in a single fight, far more than some games can even handle in their entire game world, let alone all together in one place. The TIDI system works reasonably well to accommodate all of them, up until you reach the extreme numbers.

Is TIDI a good system? Compared to what once was, yes, it is. Compare the time prior to TIDI, and compare it now. Fights can be much larger. But inevitably, people come along, whining, bitching, moaning, and complaining about how bad TIDI is. It isn't the best system, but the cost-benefit of its alternatives would make even Blizzard cower in terror.

If people want 4000+ pilot fights to be done without TIDI, they need to wait 5 or 10 years for the raw processing technology necessary to become affordable. Granted, by then, fights will probably be 6000+ people, and the situation will continue, simply because the necessary technology isn't affordable.

Until then, if someone doesn't like fighting under TIDI, don't. Nobody's holding a gun to your head.

I remember the endless complaints going on like "I warped on grid, my screen was black for 10 minutes and then I was in a new clone".

Hope CCP comes forward and apologizes for this terrible fail. I'm not even asking for all the dreads that died before they left the system that they were jumping from be reimbursed.
Just a simple: "We know it was terrible, we will do better, we are working on it"
I dont want any more mobiles or deployables or whatever, I started playing this game because of the big fleet battles,and this one was just outright depressing.

The game is multithreaded. You don't know what a "thread" is, do you?

People who complain about TIDI make me laugh. They're the same type who probably complain about traffic, not realizing that they, themselves, are a part of said traffic.

CCP have some of (if not the) most powerful servers in the gaming industry. Thousands of people can be on-grid in a single fight, far more than some games can even handle in their entire game world, let alone all together in one place. The TIDI system works reasonably well to accommodate all of them, up until you reach the extreme numbers.

Is TIDI a good system? Compared to what once was, yes, it is. Compare the time prior to TIDI, and compare it now. Fights can be much larger. But inevitably, people come along, whining, bitching, moaning, and complaining about how bad TIDI is. It isn't the best system, but the cost-benefit of its alternatives would make even Blizzard cower in terror.

If people want 4000+ pilot fights to be done without TIDI, they need to wait 5 or 10 years for the raw processing technology necessary to become affordable. Granted, by then, fights will probably be 6000+ people, and the situation will continue, simply because the necessary technology isn't affordable.

Until then, if someone doesn't like fighting under TIDI, don't. Nobody's holding a gun to your head.

Yes...

It's attached to a Tampon...

Lol complaining about server being slow when there is almost 4k+ people in it fighting? You can't be this daft, can you?

Their servers could be upgraded with some GPUs and recode the gameserver so most of processing is done on the GPUs. GPUs processing is 100x faster then CPUs and this could fix the TiDi because the GPUs could keep up with the commands quicker then the CPU can. But I don't see CCP doing this, which is sad.

People who complain about TIDI make me laugh. They're the same type who probably complain about traffic, not realizing that they, themselves, are a part of said traffic.



Until then, if someone doesn't like fighting under TIDI, don't. Nobody's holding a gun to your head.

People who complain about TIDI make me laugh. They're the same type who probably complain about traffic, not realizing that they, themselves, are a part of said traffic.

CCP have some of (if not the) most powerful servers in the gaming industry. Thousands of people can be on-grid in a single fight, far more than some games can even handle in their entire game world, let alone all together in one place. The TIDI system works reasonably well to accommodate all of them, up until you reach the extreme numbers.

Is TIDI a good system? Compared to what once was, yes, it is. Compare the time prior to TIDI, and compare it now. Fights can be much larger. But inevitably, people come along, whining, bitching, moaning, and complaining about how bad TIDI is. It isn't the best system, but the cost-benefit of its alternatives would make even Blizzard cower in terror.

If people want 4000+ pilot fights to be done without TIDI, they need to wait 5 or 10 years for the raw processing technology necessary to become affordable. Granted, by then, fights will probably be 6000+ people, and the situation will continue, simply because the necessary technology isn't affordable.

Until then, if someone doesn't like fighting under TIDI, don't. Nobody's holding a gun to your head.

There are so many errors in this small post of yours that I don't even know where to begin...

Do I start with the GPU / CPU part? The upgraded servers part? The recoding the game part? The "refusal" on CCP's part part? The rate at which data is processed part?

Every single sentence in your post is wrong, some on multiple levels. Please, for the sake of everyone who works with computers, go learn about computers and programming before you make a post like this again.

Please.

Edit :: Unless you're trolling... That post would make sense if it were a troll. Please, please be a troll...

And at what points did that happen? Compare numbers then, and compare numbers now. TIDI allows for significantly more people to be involved in a fight. As I said, it isn't the perfect system, but it's better than what once was.



Please define "there." I wasn't involved with HED today, no. I have, however, been involved with plenty of TIDI battles (including the battle at 6VDT at the end of the Fountain war).

I was also "there" when the problems we have now at 2500 players would occur at 250, with 500 players bringing the system to the screeching halt that now occurs at the 3000+ mark.

Okay Mr. smart ass. What wrong with my post? Ever hear of the Titan Supercomputer? It's the first hybrid supercomputer that uses GPU/GPUs for the processing power. As of right now it performs at 17.59 petaFLOPS, but can theoretical perform at 27 petaFLOPS. There is only one other supercomputer faster and that is the Tianhe-2. But that costs four times more than the Titan at $390M USD to Titans $97M USD.

Ever hear of Bitcoin mining? What did they use to mine coins with before ASIC chips came out? Oh that's right they used GPUs because they were faster at mining than CPUs. Lets see here a i7-3770K can mine at 5.2 Mhash/s and cost you $330 USD. A ATI Radeon HD 7870 GHz can mine at 460 Mhash/s and cost you from $189-220 USD. Oh look at that the GPU is faster and I saved some cash.

So if CCP upgrade to a CPU/GPU hybrid gameservers, they'll get more bang for their buck. I never said they would have to recode the game, Gameserver != Game. You do know you could change the gameserver language from one language like Python to a different one like Java and the game client would never know the difference. I know crazy right!? The reason why I said I don't see CCP changing is because GPUs aren't has flexible as a CPU when programming for them, plus I don't see them having the backbone to do it.

Oh and one more thing kid. I live and breathe programming. I tutor it at my college, help people on forums, and could program circles around you for months. You're the one that needs to learn about computers and programming before opening up your little mouth.

You do know you could change the gameserver language from one language like Python to a different one like Java

The worst eve online experience I've ever had. 15-20 minutes per remote call. Crazy, crazy amount of dropped calls, the game basically broke down. Spent two hours watching my dread edge 300 meters out of a bubble so I could watch a 45 minute long jump tunnel. God damn this game is bad.

I was there and i would like to know what they use as server for these fight there was 20% tidi even with one side on grid i think in 21st century they should have good enough machine to run at least 3000 ppl with no lag at all maybe they could return some money they get from US and return ti back to game not to their pocets ..

They get more then Half milion Euro per month so they should have a good servers i want to know setup of their server ...
I pay for MMO game and i dont geting it.. so return my money CCP

CCP needs to wake up. 4000 player limit isn't going to work. For the future of eve and the null empires that fight we need to be able to do what we do best. Blow s-h-i-t up.

I don't want excuses or story's of alien invasions.. Nullspace is at war from top to bottom. This isn't the first time we had large battles and won't be last. But for those who are already in HED and can't log in or are stuck forever, isn't acceptable CCP.

I like many others on all sides have $H1T to do. This tidi nonsense is broken as far as I'm concerned.

Fix the tidi CCP Make it work.

EVE is serious spaceship business!

Maybe with the criticism, people could also be a bit more constructive and give some solutions to the problem.

I think they need to consider capping the amount of pilots allowed into a system that is pre-planned for a major battle.

OK, then short of major rewriting of large chunks of eve's codebase, which perhaps isn't possible, then change the objectives of the sov system. If the game is heavily limited in what a single system can handle, then force the colliding fleets to split their forces across multiple systems to accomplish their objectives.

In other words, rather than 3000 capsuleers all piling into one system, split that 3000 across an entire constellation of 6 or 7 systems. Thus: an average 500 a system, maybe 1000 max. The servers can handle that, perhaps even without tidi.

Make it so they have some infrastructure objective to complete in each, roughly simultaneously, or some "state of the war" running count as faction warfare has. Or both. The details don't really matter, just anything that forces the fleets to split their numbers across multiple systems.

Someone above mentioned a road traffic analogy, which is fair enough. Supply is limited, and any extra capacity for a single system will soon be swamped. The difference is that CCP can change the target destination of all the traffic fairly easily, and thus solve everything on the demand side.

Then coalitions would bring 3000 people to each of those 6 or 7 systems.

Maybe with the criticism, people could also be a bit more constructive and give some solutions to the problem. I've fought in large scale battles with CFC and old NC and there is northing worse than clicking on lock target or f1 for weaponry and waiting half an hour for one cycle. Tonights big fights sounded like complete hell for those coming into the system

The only solution I can see is system capacity capage. Allowing 4k players into a system for them to not actually be able to play the game in a free flowing manner is NOT achieving anything remotely worthwhile (lag free is impossible but playable surely isn't!). So what if it statistically breaks records. It does not improve game-play in the slightest and only enhances community rage. So as said why bother ? In a battle such as this, I think they need to consider capping the amount of pilots allowed into a system that is pre-planned for a major battle.

I think the larger alliance would then have to think a lot harder about what fleets / ships they are going to drop in. More planning and tactics and much less blobbage.

If technology is not sufficient enough to handle this sort of gaming environment, then we need other alternatives.

I doubt there are such numbers available. That's 20,000 toons, plus assorted logistics chains behind them.

Even if there were, it's a drastically higher bar to hit before nodes start falling over.

Another solution could a be a type of combat arena. Limited to 1000 pilots (or whatever the node can handle without Tidi). Each side can have as many pilots on standby as they wish but only a set amount from either side can enter the arena at any given time.

Players from each side could be moved in from another node at intervals during the fight to maintain numbers. The fight could last for hours or even days if pilots are in fleet ready to go and willing to keep losing assets.

EG Fight;
Arena size of 1000 km to allow FC's to warp to optimal's or utilize other strategic maneuvers. Beacons could be utilized as drop points for new combatants. They would only be accessible by 'blues' and shielded in a manner similar to a pos to allow new combatants a way of entering the battle without being popped as soon as they are dropped into the system.

Each side has a maximum 500 ships on field
limits, 150 capitals - 200 battleship, battle cruiser - 150 cruiser, frigate.

As the battle progresses destroyed ships are replaced from backup fleets at preset intervals, if you lost 50 capitals 30 battleships or battle cruisers and 100 cruisers and frigates they could be moved from backup fleet to the arena. If you don't want to field another 50 capitals they could be replaced with 50 from any other class but no more than 150 capitals and a maximum of 500 ships could be on field at a time.

Arena fights could be for a predetermined time or until one side says enough, or is unable to field more combatants.

Fc's would need to think carefully about what ships they are fielding and what they have in replacement fleets. It may mean fielding 150 caps 300 cruisers and 50 frigates or 150 caps 200 battleships with the rest being subcap support with a few dictors thrown in.

A 1000km arena means smaller ships like frigates and cruisers are not just stuck on field to be blapped by drone spewing battleships and carriers, there is room to warp around strategically.

*Arena fights would not of course remove "sov grinds" but for mass pre-planned engagements, they could be a solution to waiting for hours to jump to a fight only to sit in 10% tidi for hours on end. Probably not everyone's idea of a good plan but it may be somewhere to start.

pretty sure that you can call this battle decisive enough to say bye bye to half your community ccp.. no point fighting what cant be fought..

pretty sure that you can call this battle decisive enough to say bye bye to half your community ccp.. no point fighting what cant be fought..

...

There are so many errors in this small post of yours that I don't even know where to begin...

Do I start with the GPU / CPU part? The upgraded servers part? The recoding the game part? The "refusal" on CCP's part part? The rate at which data is processed part?

Every single sentence in your post is wrong, some on multiple levels. Please, for the sake of everyone who works with computers, go learn about computers and programming before you make a post like this again.

Please.

Edit :: Unless you're trolling... That post would make sense if it were a troll. Please, please be a troll...

Even if CCP had a Cray Titan people would find ways to cram enough people/accounts into one system to make it lag!

4k ppl in system and no crash, GJ CCP!

now this thread need more of : nerf hisec for more ppl in null, nerf hisec for more cauz we need more prod in null and many more of comon stupid thing

stop blaming ccp, the code arent the problem it's only how you play.

everybody know how tidi turned the game and before it was only black screen, next time dont jump?

I was thinking the same thing. I'm betting he was completely serious...

Another solution could a be a type of combat arena. Limited to 1000 pilots (or whatever the node can handle without Tidi). Each side can have as many pilots on standby as they wish but only a set amount from either side can enter the arena at any given time.

Players from each side could be moved in from another node at intervals during the fight to maintain numbers. The fight could last for hours or even days if pilots are in fleet ready to go and willing to keep losing assets.

EG Fight;
Arena size of 1000 km to allow FC's to warp to optimal's or utilize other strategic maneuvers. Beacons could be utilized as drop points for new combatants. They would only be accessible by 'blues' and shielded in a manner similar to a pos to allow new combatants a way of entering the battle without being popped as soon as they are dropped into the system.

Each side has a maximum 500 ships on field
limits, 150 capitals - 200 battleship, battle cruiser - 150 cruiser, frigate.

As the battle progresses destroyed ships are replaced from backup fleets at preset intervals, if you lost 50 capitals 30 battleships or battle cruisers and 100 cruisers and frigates they could be moved from backup fleet to the arena. If you don't want to field another 50 capitals they could be replaced with 50 from any other class but no more than 150 capitals and a maximum of 500 ships could be on field at a time.

Arena fights could be for a predetermined time or until one side says enough, or is unable to field more combatants.

Fc's would need to think carefully about what ships they are fielding and what they have in replacement fleets. It may mean fielding 150 caps 300 cruisers and 50 frigates or 150 caps 200 battleships with the rest being subcap support with a few dictors thrown in.

A 1000km arena means smaller ships like frigates and cruisers are not just stuck on field to be blapped by drone spewing battleships and carriers, there is room to warp around strategically.

*Arena fights would not of course remove "sov grinds" but for mass pre-planned engagements, they could be a solution to waiting for hours to jump to a fight only to sit in 10% tidi for hours on end. Probably not everyone's idea of a good plan but it may be somewhere to start.

And EVE could possibly be made to run a significant portion of its server code on GPGPUs or parallel cores but it would take a complete rewrite of the game, from scratch, in a different language. It would be such a massive undertaking that it would require the entire development team to stop working on current EVE. They would lose a lot of subscribers over the years they would be doing this, it would cost a lot of money because they would of course have to keep paying wages and fees, and they would probably have to invest in new hardware to run the new code (since Tranquility is heavily optimized for single-core performance per node).

4k ppl in system and no crash, GJ CCP!

now this thread need more of : nerf null for more ppl in hi-sec, nerf null for more cauz we need more prod in hi-sec and many more of comon stupid thing

To all you who are complaining, a lot of AAA games really have a hardcap of 64 players. 4000 players are pretty extreme and no other game seems to be able to cope with that many.

The code isn't not much of a problem, it's the hardware, even when using experimental overclockecked CPUs there is a cap.

Some says a multlithreaded setup up would raise the bars even higher, but at this point is pure speculation on how much it would really help.


Big kudos to CCP

To all you who are complaining, a lot of AAA games really have a hardcap of 64 players. 4000 players are pretty extreme and no other game seems to be able to cope with that many.

The code isn't not much of a problem, it's the hardware, even when using experimental overclockecked CPUs there is a cap.

Some says a multlithreaded setup up would raise the bars even higher, but at this point is pure speculation on how much it would really help.


Big kudos to CCP

True, EVE is the only game that can handle such high amounts of players at one area like this. It's surprising how it can even handle 4000 players without crashing or freezing in the first place.

Is it kind of joke about good job from CCP? 10% TiDi sure?
Of course, fight was great for PL and N3 that jumped in HED system 8 hours!!! before timer came out. Jumping to the cyno in HED took me 1,5 hour of real time, 30% of jumped pilots could not make it finally to the destination system, either been stuck in the tunnel or killed being still in warp tunnel.
We all wanted to have super capital fight but in the end had literally no fight, siege modules and guns at dreads did not activate (making them useless in such kind of engagements), portaling fleet took 1,5 hour, lots of crashing clients, real TiDi was not 10% but rather 1%. As the result it was not the fight we all wanted to have.
Yes, well done CCP you make this game better from day to day

Is it kind of joke about good job from CCP? 10% TiDi sure?
Of course, fight was great for PL and N3 that jumped in HED system 8 hours!!! before timer came out. Jumping to the cyno in HED took me 1,5 hour of real time, 30% of jumped pilots could not make it finally to the destination system, either been stuck in the tunnel or killed being still in warp tunnel.
We all wanted to have super capital fight but in the end had literally no fight, siege modules and guns at dreads did not activate (making them useless in such kind of engagements), portaling fleet took 1,5 hour, lots of crashing clients, real TiDi was not 10% but rather 1%. As the result it was not the fight we all wanted to have.
Yes, well done CCP you make this game better from day to day

You guys KNEW that there would be heavy Tidi, you guys KNEW that the node would be unresponsive and yet...

Coalitions would then pack the system so no opposition could enter the system to stop them.



Then coalitions would bring 3000 people to each of those 6 or 7 systems.

Right now you have a box and there are too many people in the box. They can't move. There isn't even enough room for them to scratch their asses.

If you make the box bigger so those people can move around more freely, they will just bring MORE PEOPLE and fill up the volume of the new, bigger box until none of them can move.

So the smart guys who planned ahead won the battle.

Sounds fair to me.

stop blaming ccp, the code arent the problem it's only how you play.

To all you who are complaining, a lot of AAA games really have a hardcap of 64 players. 4000 players are pretty extreme and no other game seems to be able to cope with that many

True, EVE is the only game that can handle such high amounts of players at one area like this. It's surprising how it can even handle 4000 players without crashing or freezing in the first place.

FFS IT's how this game is MEANT to be played
in its core design

Problem is, when the "core design" was drawn, CCP probably didn't even envision 4k clients being connected to the same node as something that would ever happen.

Okay here's the plan guys: We completely **** on all strategic advantages you've built for yourself while simultaneously making the ONLY way to win be 100% limited engagements which will invariably turn into mirror matches until one side gets enough wife aggro to stop playing for a week.

1,564 people in local. Node bouncing between 96%-68% TIDI and at some point reached 100%. Good job CCP, I'd say that's progress, from the days in 2003 I remember where 20 vs 20 almost killed the server.

Kudos CPP.

http://www.twitch.tv/sutonimh

UPDATE: Local @ 3,515 with 10% TIDI
UPDATE: Local @ 3,730 with 10% TIDI
UPDATE: Local @ 3,842 with 10% TIDI
UPDATE: Local @ 3,927 with 10% TIDI

^ This!

My hat is definitely off to CCP. Eve is literally the only game where we can do this with stability.
I'm patient, I can deal with TiDi easily.

You know as well as I do that despite 10% tidi it was not stable.

It was actually stable. Module lag != Unstable. Your commands go through .. hence being stable. You have obviously never fought battles pre-TIDI.

Infinity Ziona
Yeah your dreads were dying before they loaded in...

It was actually stable. Module lag != Unstable. Your commands go through .. hence being stable. You have obviously never fought battles pre-TIDI.

Sooooo maybe they should change it now

or wait

Let's better have some more mobile structures

And before someone says "get faster processors" it should also be mentioned that we've pretty much reached the limit as far as single-core performance.

From here CCP has two options, one of which they're taking

The first approach is, as mentioned above, to completely rewrite all of EVE from the ground up, in a language other than Stackless Python, to exploit the powers of parallel computing. Some game mechanics would probably have to change for this to happen, invariably some bugs will get fixed while many, many more would be introduced, and it would be a massive undertaking for an extended period of time that would completely stagnate the game in the interim. This would also require them to essentially build an entirely new server, which would itself be an expensive undertaking.

The other approach, which CCP is taking, is to make extensive optimizations to various individual parts of the program. CCP's server load balancing algorithm, Brain in a Box, and other related projects are all a part of this effort. It requires significantly less programming effort, most likely won't introduce nearly as many new bugs (some are to be expected), and the CCP doesn't have to stop iterating on the actual game for this to happen.

So they should CAP it if they can't handle such numbers
but they encourage it instead
i won't be surprised if after this fight we'll see another advertizing blog about records made of peope/capitals/whatever involved like that "battle of asakai" thing

Don't worry guys, CCP Veritas will fix the lag!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcEUB6h4Br0&feature=player_detailpage#t=434

\o/ Projects Brain in a Box and Destiny Dispatch \o/

great job ccp, thanks for keeping the node alive, it's come a long way in the last few years.

Problem is, when the "core design" was drawn, CCP probably didn't even envision 4k clients being connected to the same node as something that would ever happen.

Of course it was stable, the below quote indicates that well.

Being shot off the field before loading in is EXACTLY how it should be

Is that a lag indicator?

640K of RAM ought to be enough for everybody.

And who said that?


Christopher Lloyd!

Personally I would rather it just crash like in the old days so at least I can go and do something with my life instead of sitting around for hours wondering if or when my machine is doing anything...

Really anyone who thinks this sort of thing is to be applauded is just prolonging the time it takes CCP to actively do something worthwhile on the subject.

I have an idea. leave nullsec, go to WH space. That way, your fights are limited by mass, not the ability to cyno ships at once. The only downside is that you can't anchor your epeen to claim sov.