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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.03.25 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: SHINJI AKARI I may be wrong, but i'm sure the producers of that game knew exactly what they were doing, they knew it was going to be controversial, they new it would get alot of attention, and they didn't care about ****ing off Christians.
Why would a historical representation of Rome **** off christians? This was their preferred method of execution - when slaves revolted they crucified thousands of them and spaced their crosses every 20 feet on the appian way. That way everyone going into and out of Rome would see what happens when you disobey Caesar. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |

Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.03.25 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville
Quote: if you(generically) are offended from the religious angle on this issue... why? they aren't crucifying someone for being a mystically endowed hippie that the goverment finds threatening... they are using a punishment that was used frequently during the time period the game is set in, to punish a criminal.
You've mentioned this three times without any indication from me that I am, in fact, coming at it from this angle. Do you have an axe to grind or something?
actually that was "pointed" at Shinji... or anyone who was indeed offended from the religious angle. as opposed to a more sensible one like you mentioned.
~~~~~ To see a World in a Grain of Sand And Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour ~~William Blake |

D'onryu Shoqui
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Posted - 2006.03.25 03:04:00 -
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that is so funny , if i played that game i would try to get the samething done to me 
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Ostor LightDust
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Posted - 2006.03.25 03:10:00 -
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holy crap, I live in Flint :O im gonna have to find this dude
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Hakera
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Posted - 2006.03.25 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui that is so funny , if i played that game i would try to get the samething done to me 
<imagines scene out of Life of brian>
<Guild chat> 1...2...3....
AND Always look on the bright side of life....
That punishment is a ban effectivelly just like in any mmorpg, only difference being your avatar gets nailed to a cross for that time. Given the context of the game, its quite funny really and good take on punishment for your actions that is in-keeping with the spirit of the game.
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D'onryu Shoqui
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Posted - 2006.03.25 03:13:00 -
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sounds like you can login still login while nailed to the cross though ,would be kinda cool to see what people are saying about you nailed up there i bet
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Nebuli
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Posted - 2006.03.25 03:26:00 -
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Originally by: Malken that just shows the inability of the developers to not being able to program in game mechanics that stops people from doing the things that are not allowed in that game.
crappy devs, not like the ones we got. in eve everything is allowed as every "illegal" action has a consequence.
Erm, thats not realy true is it? lol
Never hear or see the video of a certain pirate corp using smartbombs on a apoc in a 1.0 and being boosted by other ships to keap him alive while he killed countless n00bs and police ships etc?
They also got banned btw.
CEO - Art of War |

Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.03.25 03:38:00 -
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Originally by: Nebuli
They also got banned btw.
...because they didn't stop when the GMs said to. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |

Nebuli
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Posted - 2006.03.25 03:43:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu
Originally by: Nebuli
They also got banned btw.
...because they didn't stop when the GMs said to.
Thats correct, but his post implied it wasnt possible to do anything that you shouldnt be able to do, this proved that not to be the case, and I'm sure this situation was no different, I'm fairly sure this chap was warned as well before getting crucified, so I see no difference.
CEO - Art of War |

Stephen HB
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Posted - 2006.03.25 05:56:00 -
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I hold religious views that I call conservative and many would call nutcase fundamentallist (to each their own) and I really can't see the problem here.
An avatar breaking the rules of the (semi-fictitious) society has been punished in an historically/RP authentic way. It's not like Jesus has a patent on crucifixion. -- Originally by: Drayce Between the learning skills and the tutorial, Eve is like a firewall against the attention deficit kids.
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Arron S
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Posted - 2006.03.25 06:04:00 -
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LMAO... AWSOME!!!!!! am I the only one who got a good laugh out of this??
Anyway I wish I could do that to Marco Miners.. Duct tape them to a Anchored can or somthing.... Oh yeah I do plan on puting an PVP kills I get into Cans, nice and locked for everyone to see^_^
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Insane Asylum
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Posted - 2006.03.25 06:08:00 -
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Originally by: Keta Min the crucifixion is not offending (well maybe to some of those weird christians), but the fact that he got banned for pking is (there is no mention of an exploit). just shows what a crap game it must be.
Exactly, why not just make PVP not part of the game?
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.03.25 06:17:00 -
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Originally by: Stephen HB It's not like Jesus has a patent on crucifixion.
careful, if you really are fundamentalist then they might kick you out for saying that something that happened to jesus happened to someone other than him too!
Originally by: Insane Asylum Exactly, why not just make PVP not part of the game?
I got the impression that it... was... part of the game. but that the person in question was repeatedly killing people as they came into the game... like for the first time.
you don't think someone who suicide kessied every noob ship they could that came out of the starting station, would get banned?
honestly as a method of account suspension/banning, its a rather nice idea. they can still get in and socialize with people (assuming they can... which I get the impression they can) that DO like them, or at least see whats going on...
~~~~~ To see a World in a Grain of Sand And Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour ~~William Blake |
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Kaemonn

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Posted - 2006.03.25 06:40:00 -
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I will allow this topic to continue on. I can see it heading toward the path of religous discussion and GM action discussion. As long as it does not escelate into that this topic will stay unlocked, but at the slightest hint of any religous discussion, or GM discussion this thread will be locked faster than Hammerhead can say "boobies"
~Kaemonn
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Sir Juri
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Posted - 2006.03.25 06:46:00 -
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lighten up ppl! first of its a roman empire punishement. Game is in the right setting. And ppl who wanna play "romans", wont be offended as its about the roman empire. I think its hilarious! 
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Dimitri Chandler
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Posted - 2006.03.25 07:46:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
There's a big difference between crucifixion and rape. One can be depicted in a popular movie, the other can't. Can you guess which?
I draw your attention to the following movies:
The Passion of the Christ Irreversible
examples where both these things have been depicted in popular movies.
Nope :) -Capsicum |

UndergrounD
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Posted - 2006.03.25 08:00:00 -
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Thats funny. -----------------------------------------------
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xPreatorianx
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Posted - 2006.03.25 08:27:00 -
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I think a really good way to humiliate(sp?) people that macro mine and other stupid stuff should be a npc for say a month. Where he cant do any damage hardly and everyone can kill him but only in belts! And they get a small bounty say 1k for doin the deed. Stupid idea or could this really work?
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Klasanov
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Posted - 2006.03.25 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Alexis
So would rape. Should we start advocating that sexual harassment not be part of a TOS in a game based on ancient Rome solely because it's an anachronism?
Where did he even insiunate as such?
Your argument is either false dichotomy, or strawman. I tend to get the two confused, but the point is neither hold any weight. Ever.
Please explain how crucifixion crosses the line. It was a fairly common practice in Rome. The only reason it has any religious connotation was because Jesus was crucified.
Well, maybe I see it that way since I'm actually Agnostic...
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Cell Satimo
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Posted - 2006.03.25 09:14:00 -
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Haha very bold! I like it.
In case some people didn't notice, there already is Public Lynching in Eve - A quick read through the eve-online forums shows that.
So crucifixtion? why not! At least in that Rome game has progressed beyond mob law to a recognised and authorative judge - the game makers none the less.
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Xendie
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Posted - 2006.03.25 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Nebuli
Originally by: Malken that just shows the inability of the developers to not being able to program in game mechanics that stops people from doing the things that are not allowed in that game.
crappy devs, not like the ones we got. in eve everything is allowed as every "illegal" action has a consequence.
Erm, thats not realy true is it? lol
Never hear or see the video of a certain pirate corp using smartbombs on a apoc in a 1.0 and being boosted by other ships to keap him alive while he killed countless n00bs and police ships etc?
They also got banned btw.
i believe they were told to stop and that it was because they didnt that they got banned.
in the game in question the very thing the guy was doing is still possible to do. in eve they plugged the loophole asap=good devs. in that game they dont plug the hole because its easier to just toss out a little piece of graphic with the guys name on it instead.
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Originally by: F'nog This would be great, because lag is not at all a problem currently.
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2006.03.25 10:17:00 -
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Its about time a game company stood up against Pk'ers and griefers.
Not everone comes on line to kill/harrass their fellow man. Unless its a first person shooter like USArmy or Halo.
Eve is a universe that allows both PVE and PvP. Though some in the game beleave one should be nerfed while the other is allowed to go wild.
I wonder if enough people got together and complained about another players actions in Eve if the GM's/Dev's would take some similar action? Fines/temporay bans/loss of life and funds?
Dont get me wrong I beleave everyone has the right to play Eve his or her way, as they see fit. As long as the basic rules are followed. But when someone pushes those rules and just kills newbie and non-pvp people cause they can, then somthing should be done about it.
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter pirate or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box.
We are not ebil forum police, for one thing I don't have a hat :( - Cortes |

Lauri Pasan
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Posted - 2006.03.25 10:41:00 -
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In EVE, you can get "crucified" aswell... Look at the billboards. While those people have not done anything "meta-wrong" they have comitted crimes in-game and are put on public display, as a warning and as a suggestion to capture/kill them. Incidentally, ironically, it is by most seen as a form of commendation. Sure their corpses are not put on display but I think they should. At least in Amarr space. Yeah.
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Tommy TenKreds
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Posted - 2006.03.25 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: SHINJI AKARI Also, you would have to live in a 3rd world country to have have Jesus Christ and crucifixion not form a mental link in your brain. It's the same as Joan of Ark and being burned at the stake. If they would have chosen being burned at the stake people would have thought of her.
Actually when you mentioned being burned at the stake, I immediately thought of Wycliffe, so I guess that proves your point untrue. 
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Captain Tightpants
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Posted - 2006.03.25 11:17:00 -
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Ha! He must be really cross.
If anyone's offended by it: he was probably a terrorism suspect. So it's okay.
Wouldn't work so well for Eve, though. They'd have to be pilloried by some sort of total stasis web in some high sec. system, whilst people fired squishy rotten tomatoes at them from squishy rotten tomato launchers.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2006.03.25 11:19:00 -
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I was early Beta tester of Roma Victor, and belive me thats the most existing thing ever to happen in that game

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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2006.03.25 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Roshan longshot Its about time a game company stood up against Pk'ers and griefers.
Not everone comes on line to kill/harrass their fellow man. Unless its a first person shooter like USArmy or Halo.
Eve is a universe that allows both PVE and PvP. Though some in the game beleave one should be nerfed while the other is allowed to go wild.
I wonder if enough people got together and complained about another players actions in Eve if the GM's/Dev's would take some similar action? Fines/temporay bans/loss of life and funds?
Dont get me wrong I beleave everyone has the right to play Eve his or her way, as they see fit. As long as the basic rules are followed. But when someone pushes those rules and just kills newbie and non-pvp people cause they can, then somthing should be done about it.
Everything can be killed ine EVE, i like it
Hint EVE is PvP game.............lets not start on that again in another boring thread

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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2006.03.25 11:34:00 -
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Everything can be killed ine EVE, i like it
Hint EVE is PvP game.............lets not start on that again in another boring thread
Hint: Then dont start it again....
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter pirate or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box.
We are not ebil forum police, for one thing I don't have a hat :( - Cortes |

Zaldiri
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Posted - 2006.03.25 11:49:00 -
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If you want to intergrate a don't cheat sign directly into a game I realy can't think of a better way to do it.
----------------------------------------------- Admiral of King Frieza's Super Saiyan fleet.
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Nee'kita Frist
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Posted - 2006.03.25 12:04:00 -
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I'm a Christian and I'm not remotely offended by this (why should I be? The Romans crucified thousands of people on the cross, the signicance for Christians is Jesus was God who came to earth and sacrifice for our wrongs, he did no wrong... anyway enough of that)
Heres my ACTUAL thought on the matter:
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