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Eternal Fury
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Posted - 2006.03.25 01:27:00 -
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I appologise for the potential religious ramifications before hand. I dont' mean this to offend people, i just mean it as a humrous post.
Online gamer punished with virtual crucifixion
If this happened in EvE, there'd be no tree's ANYWHERE 
Heres a quote
Online gamer punished with virtual crucifixion
"Humphrey Cheung
March 25, 2006 00:01
Banning online players for in-game offenses is common, but a new multiplayer game has gone a step further. Roma Victor, a game set in Roman-controlled Britain, has virtually crucified a player for killing other players repeatedly. Cynewulf, a character played by a Flint Michigan resident, will hang in a public square for seven days. Other players have been stopping by to watch and even taunt Cynewulf."
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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
H.L. Mencken.
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Joran420
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Posted - 2006.03.25 01:33:00 -
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saw this a few days ago...not sure how i feel about it its almost a tribute to hackers and cheaters i like the do not discuss angle better
but its a pretty cool concept
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Eternal Fury
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Posted - 2006.03.25 01:37:00 -
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I was wary of posting it becuase of what it portrays. I actually like the idea of people who are punished for certain game offenses being put up for public display. The ... form.. of display they picked isn't one I'd choose, but the idea behind it I find amuseing.
example would be if someone is caught selling isk/items/ships/accounts online, their in game main would spend a week/month with an NPC char with that name hauling trade goods, spouting off in local ever few minutes that they are trying to repay the corporation they ripped off. :) Or put their face on the billboards we see around gates :)
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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
H.L. Mencken.
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.03.25 01:39:00 -
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It's in seriously bad taste, but only slightly more appalling than the practice of frozen corpse collection we have here in EVE.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.25 01:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville
It's in seriously bad taste, but only slightly more appalling than the practice of frozen corpse collection we have here in EVE.
The crucifixion makes quite a lot of sense in RP terms, tbh.
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.03.25 01:43:00 -
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Edited by: Alexis DeTocqueville on 25/03/2006 01:43:44
Originally by: Dark Shikari
The crucifixion makes quite a lot of sense in RP terms, tbh.
So would rape. Should we start advocating that sexual harassment not be part of a TOS in a game based on ancient Rome solely because it's an anachronism?
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.25 01:45:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 25/03/2006 01:45:54
Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville
Originally by: Dark Shikari
The crucifixion makes quite a lot of sense in RP terms, tbh.
So would rape. Should we start advocating that sexual harassment not be part of a TOS in a game based on ancient Rome solely because it's an anachronism?
That's a total, utter non sequitur.
I say you're wrong because squirrels like nuts.
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Arcadia1701
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Posted - 2006.03.25 01:48:00 -
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I love that, thats one way to get gamers more scared of breaking the rules, rather than banning them, humilate them. Its a rather harsh method u may think, but if they cheat or break the rules, why not?
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Keta Min
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Posted - 2006.03.25 01:53:00 -
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the crucifixion is not offending (well maybe to some of those weird christians), but the fact that he got banned for pking is (there is no mention of an exploit). just shows what a crap game it must be.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.25 01:54:00 -
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Originally by: Keta Min
the crucifixion is not offending (well maybe to some of those weird christians), but the fact that he got banned for pking is (there is no mention of an exploit). just shows what a crap game it must be.
At least the article I read went into a bit more detail.
He was spawnkilling newbies in an area where spawnkilling isn't allowed.
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.03.25 01:57:00 -
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Edited by: Alexis DeTocqueville on 25/03/2006 01:57:47
Originally by: Dark Shikari
That's a total, utter non sequitur.
I say you're wrong because squirrels like nuts.
Oh wow, I must have been mistaken when I learned that the Roman Empire, like other ancient empires, was completely misogynist, and their soldiers committed unspeakable atrocities upon women.  You're the one who brought up authenticity. If public crucifixion like that is appropriate solely because it's conforming to the authentic nature of the time the game takes place in, so are other things that we view repulsive today but were completely acceptable then.
I will submit the question again, and this time, please answer instead of dodging.
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Keta Min
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Posted - 2006.03.25 01:58:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Keta Min
the crucifixion is not offending (well maybe to some of those weird christians), but the fact that he got banned for pking is (there is no mention of an exploit). just shows what a crap game it must be.
At least the article I read went into a bit more detail.
He was spawnkilling newbies in an area where spawnkilling isn't allowed.
that's an exploit then, fair enough.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.25 01:59:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 25/03/2006 02:00:44
Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville
Originally by: Dark Shikari
That's a total, utter non sequitur.
I say you're wrong because squirrels like nuts.
Oh wow, I must have been mistaken when I learned that the Roman Empire, like other ancient empires, was completely misogynist, and their soldiers committed unspeakable atrocities upon women. You're the one who brought up authenticity. If public crucifixion like that is appropriate solely because it's conforming to the authentic nature of the time the game takes place in, so are other things that we view repulsive today but were completely acceptable then.
I will submit the question again, and this time, please answer instead of dodging.
I never uttered the word "soley" in my post.
Don't put words in my mouth.
There's a big difference between crucifixion and rape. One can be depicted in a popular movie, the other can't. Can you guess which?
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.03.25 02:00:00 -
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Edited by: Alexis DeTocqueville on 25/03/2006 02:00:25
Originally by: Dark Shikari
I never uttered the word "soley" in my post.
You didn't add any caveats either. 
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Sphalerite
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Posted - 2006.03.25 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: Stupidest Game Company Ever
Roma Victor recreates old Britain where people play virtual slaves and citizens in the Roman empire. The game will officially launch in July 2006.
WTB mining slave
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Gah'khaz
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Posted - 2006.03.25 02:02:00 -
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start stringing up macrominers in jita!!121"!
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Malken
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Posted - 2006.03.25 02:02:00 -
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that just shows the inability of the developers to not being able to program in game mechanics that stops people from doing the things that are not allowed in that game.
crappy devs, not like the ones we got.
in eve everything is allowed as every "illegal" action has a consequence.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.25 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville
Originally by: Dark Shikari
I never uttered the word "soley" in my post.
You didn't add any caveats either.
I never even implied whatsoever that RP was even the primary reason for such a system. I simply mentioned that it made sense RP-wise.
You're completely making things up now.
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.03.25 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
I never even implied whatsoever that RP was even the primary reason for such a system. I simply mentioned that it made sense RP-wise.
Right, and I retorted that so does rape, but our evolved standards of human decency impose a hard limit on how "authentic" roleplaying experiences can be. I think it crosses the line.
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Turas Kain
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Posted - 2006.03.25 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: Gah'khaz
start stringing up macrominers in jita!!121"!
All in a nice ikkle group so they can be smartbombed to buggery 
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Sessho Seki
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Posted - 2006.03.25 02:28:00 -
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Originally by: Eternal Fury
I was wary of posting it becuase of what it portrays. I actually like the idea of people who are punished for certain game offenses being put up for public display. The ... form.. of display they picked isn't one I'd choose, but the idea behind it I find amuseing.
well, if itÆs in regards to parallels to the crucifixion of Jesus, then itÆs important to know that it was an extremely common practice of the time (both long before and long after) to deal with criminals to be examples to those who would potentially do something that the crucified had done.
If the actual act of crucifixion is the problem as a particularly brutal means of public execution, letÆs also not forget the more ôcivilizedö mechanisms such as guillotine, burning at the stake (Jeanne D'Arc got a first hand account), perhaps live disembowelment followed by being beheaded (a la William Wallace), or maybe ôdunking tanksö like those of the Salem Witch Trials (if you drowned, you were an innocent mortal, but if you swam you were a witch and then burned at the stake). Maybe just the good old fashioned hanging is in order.
All those are quite public means of dealing with criminals or enemies of the state, and all of which are easily comparable to what was a ôstandardö crucifixion (simply being hung from a cross till one basically dies of exhaustion and suffocation).
While not condoning or glorifying such acts, itÆs also arguably beneficial to societal stability to make very clear and public examples of those that would defy the rules of that society.
In the vein that it is a game after all, and people playing the game should have the mental fortitude to separate themselves from that virtual world, I believe that the game producers should have the liberty and even the obligation to make it known that those breaking the rules will be dealt with thoroughly, and the added incentive of public displays makes the message not only more clear, but nearly unavoidable, which was the entire point of public execution to begin with.
As for the crime(s) fitting the punishment, thatÆs always a hazy area, and several have mentioned here and elsewhere that the person was a player-killer. In EVE, itÆs nearly beyond reason to conceive of it without any sort of PvP situation or punishments arising from killing other players beyond the obvious potential CONCORD retaliation in Empire space or what have you. But if a game has particularly strict rules for when/where PvP can take place, or repeated killing of a player or what have you, then itÆs understandable that such a person violating those rules, even though it would be acceptable here, itÆs not as such there. Since the setting of that game is Roman Era Britain, then as the saying goes ôWhen in Rome, do as the Romans doö, so our established sense of whatÆs acceptable doesnÆt apply to their game world.
Regardless of what the people think however, the game producers themselves have found it within reason to prosecute, judge, and indeed execute those found operating outside the rules they have established for the game. So at the end of the day, if you donÆt want to be a public spectacle, then donÆt be a public menace.
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SHINJI AKARI
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Posted - 2006.03.25 02:31:00 -
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Thats just complete idiocy. I have never even heard of that game, and i'm pretty up on the goings on of the net.
This just wreaks of a tasteless publicity stunt.
Unfortunately, it will most likely work.
Oh well, wadda ya gunna do? Just have to accept the fact that theres a whole lot of stupid in the world ya know.
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.03.25 02:33:00 -
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1) I'm not christian so crucifixion doesn't have as much personal signifigance/baggage to me as I recognize it would to some.
2) I do not, in principle, object to players who do not follow the in game rules, to be punished in game.
3) I concur with Tachikoma Man, considering the setting, its not *THAT* far out of line. though it is gutsy.
4) with said gutsiness in mind, in general "no publicity is bad publicity". how many people will have heard of the game from this "buzz" that would not have heard of it before? how many will try it out because they like the company having the nerve to be so gutsy? ect...
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the crucifixion is not offending (well maybe to some of those weird christians), but the fact that he got banned for pking is (there is no mention of an exploit). just shows what a crap game it must be.
breaking the rules does not inherently mean an exploit, if its against the rules in an area, (though possible) and you do it anyway... being punished is reasonable. its no different than losing your ship to concord in high sec here. and in some cases I can see how banning would be appropriate, even if there was no exploit.
crucifixion is NOT inherently that offensive per se. I think most would be offended because they make some rather warped religious connection, or because they feel if the game ALLOWS them to do something, they should be socially permitted to do so because its "in the game".
like more realistic physics in EVE... some things would only make stuff harder (and/or less appropriate) without any benefit to speak of. adding other currently socially unacceptable things from that time would not neccesarily add anything useful. having a chacacter crucified as a means of punishment does. specifically punishing that character/player for the unacceptable behavior.
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in eve everything is allowed as every "illegal" action has a consequence.
... what? is there some reason being crucified as a consequence to illegal actions, is somehow profoundly different than losing sec status and a ship if you do an illegal action in EVE?
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Right, and I retorted that so does rape, but our evolved standards of human decency impose a hard limit on how "authentic" roleplaying experiences can be. I think it crosses the line.
simple, honest question in answer to this. ... why? whys that cross the line?
capital punishment? would you agree if it were hanging, or guilitine, or drawing and quartering? shooting squad?
or are you attaching religious baggage and connotations that are not inherently attached, and that many feel don't belong in a game?
or some other reason? (like my rambling above about whats allowed or not in a game)
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And Heaven in a Wild Flower
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour
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SHINJI AKARI
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Posted - 2006.03.25 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: Keta Min
the crucifixion is not offending (well maybe to some of those weird christians), but the fact that he got banned for pking is (there is no mention of an exploit). just shows what a crap game it must be.
To be honest, it offends me, but i'm not one of those people that think the world should revolve around me.
I'm a Christian, but im not gunna push my beliefs on other people or try to limit other peoples behavior to what I think is acceptable.
I don't like what they did at all. I think its ridiculous, but at the same time, they have the right to do it, just like I have the right to say I don't like it. And so it is.
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Gamer4liff
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Posted - 2006.03.25 02:36:00 -
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Edited by: Gamer4liff on 25/03/2006 02:40:06
I agree with DS on this one, Jesus was not the only person to get crucified. It was a common roman practice. It makes plenty of sense from an RP standpoint. This is freaking hilarious if you ask me.
Oh and it was in out of pod first.
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.03.25 02:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kel Shek
simple, honest question in answer to this. ... why? whys that cross the line?
capital punishment? would you agree if it were hanging, or guilitine, or drawing and quartering? shooting squad?
Mainly it has to do with the public "tar and feathering" scheme they have going. CCP deals with account bans privately and doesn't disclose that information to anybody of what the actions they take are. I think putting someone on display for everybody to laugh at online is a twisted stunt that combines a high school popularity contest mentality with the schadenfraude of the internet.
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SHINJI AKARI
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Posted - 2006.03.25 02:42:00 -
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I already see the posts arguing about the correlation between crucifixation and Jesus, and how its ok what they did because it was historically accurate of that time period. They new exactly what they were doing. It was random when they picked crucifixion.
There were tons of different types of corporal punishment that would also be historically accurate that they could have used. Also, you would have to live in a 3rd world country to have have Jesus Christ and crucifixion not form a mental link in your brain. It's the same as Joan of Ark and being burned at the stake. If they would have chosen being burned at the stake people would have thought of her.
I may be wrong, but i'm sure the producers of that game knew exactly what they were doing, they knew it was going to be controversial, they new it would get alot of attention, and they didn't care about ****ing off Christians.
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Naleb Cilani
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Posted - 2006.03.25 02:45:00 -
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There are more adult (as 21 or older to play) MMO's than this Rome game. It's no big deal. With *****and perma death might I add.
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if the repeatedly stated (not by players mind you) rules of the game don't agree with your "vision" of what this game ought to be... get lost.
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.03.25 02:53:00 -
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Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville
Originally by: Kel Shek
simple, honest question in answer to this. ... why? whys that cross the line?
capital punishment? would you agree if it were hanging, or guilitine, or drawing and quartering? shooting squad?
Mainly it has to do with the public "tar and feathering" scheme they have going. CCP deals with account bans privately and doesn't disclose that information to anybody of what the actions they take are. I think putting someone on display for everybody to laugh at online is a twisted stunt that combines a high school popularity contest mentality with the schadenfraude of the internet.
now that I can see. I think its a reasonable objection, (as opposed to religion based ones) but I don't entirely agree. I don't entirly disagree either.
I mean it comes down to taking responsibility for your actions, just like in EVE. I think its "ok" that there are things you can do that will have a punishment like that.
"why allow such things to be done? if its that objectable why allow it at all!"
why allow people to shoot others in 1.0 sec at all? its the same principle.
did they conciously pick a contraversial method of punishment? sure. in a practical sense a pillory would be sufficient.... but it wouldn't fit the setting as well.
if you(generically) are offended from the religious angle on this issue... why? they aren't crucifying someone for being a mystically endowed hippie that the goverment finds threatening... they are using a punishment that was used frequently during the time period the game is set in, to punish a criminal.
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To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And Heaven in a Wild Flower
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.03.25 02:54:00 -
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if you(generically) are offended from the religious angle on this issue... why? they aren't crucifying someone for being a mystically endowed hippie that the goverment finds threatening... they are using a punishment that was used frequently during the time period the game is set in, to punish a criminal.
You've mentioned this three times without any indication from me that I am, in fact, coming at it from this angle. Do you have an axe to grind or something?
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.03.25 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: SHINJI AKARI
I may be wrong, but i'm sure the producers of that game knew exactly what they were doing, they knew it was going to be controversial, they new it would get alot of attention, and they didn't care about ****ing off Christians.
Why would a historical representation of Rome **** off christians? This was their preferred method of execution - when slaves revolted they crucified thousands of them and spaced their crosses every 20 feet on the appian way. That way everyone going into and out of Rome would see what happens when you disobey Caesar.
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.03.25 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville
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if you(generically) are offended from the religious angle on this issue... why? they aren't crucifying someone for being a mystically endowed hippie that the goverment finds threatening... they are using a punishment that was used frequently during the time period the game is set in, to punish a criminal.
You've mentioned this three times without any indication from me that I am, in fact, coming at it from this angle. Do you have an axe to grind or something?
actually that was "pointed" at Shinji... or anyone who was indeed offended from the religious angle. as opposed to a more sensible one like you mentioned.
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To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And Heaven in a Wild Flower
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour
~~William Blake |
D'onryu Shoqui
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Posted - 2006.03.25 03:04:00 -
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that is so funny , if i played that game i would try to get the samething done to me
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Ostor LightDust
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Posted - 2006.03.25 03:10:00 -
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holy crap, I live in Flint :O im gonna have to find this dude
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Hakera
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Posted - 2006.03.25 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui
that is so funny , if i played that game i would try to get the samething done to me
<imagines scene out of Life of brian>
<Guild chat> 1...2...3....
AND Always look on the bright side of life....
That punishment is a ban effectivelly just like in any mmorpg, only difference being your avatar gets nailed to a cross for that time. Given the context of the game, its quite funny really and good take on punishment for your actions that is in-keeping with the spirit of the game.
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D'onryu Shoqui
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Posted - 2006.03.25 03:13:00 -
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sounds like you can login still login while nailed to the cross though ,would be kinda cool to see what people are saying about you nailed up there i bet
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Nebuli
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Posted - 2006.03.25 03:26:00 -
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Originally by: Malken
that just shows the inability of the developers to not being able to program in game mechanics that stops people from doing the things that are not allowed in that game.
crappy devs, not like the ones we got.
in eve everything is allowed as every "illegal" action has a consequence.
Erm, thats not realy true is it? lol
Never hear or see the video of a certain pirate corp using smartbombs on a apoc in a 1.0 and being boosted by other ships to keap him alive while he killed countless n00bs and police ships etc?
They also got banned btw.
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.03.25 03:38:00 -
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Originally by: Nebuli
They also got banned btw.
...because they didn't stop when the GMs said to.
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Nebuli
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Posted - 2006.03.25 03:43:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu
Originally by: Nebuli
They also got banned btw.
...because they didn't stop when the GMs said to.
Thats correct, but his post implied it wasnt possible to do anything that you shouldnt be able to do, this proved that not to be the case, and I'm sure this situation was no different, I'm fairly sure this chap was warned as well before getting crucified, so I see no difference.
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Stephen HB
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Posted - 2006.03.25 05:56:00 -
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I hold religious views that I call conservative and many would call nutcase fundamentallist (to each their own) and I really can't see the problem here.
An avatar breaking the rules of the (semi-fictitious) society has been punished in an historically/RP authentic way. It's not like Jesus has a patent on crucifixion.
-- Originally by: Drayce
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Arron S
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Posted - 2006.03.25 06:04:00 -
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LMAO... AWSOME!!!!!! am I the only one who got a good laugh out of this??
Anyway I wish I could do that to Marco Miners.. Duct tape them to a Anchored can or somthing.... Oh yeah I do plan on puting an PVP kills I get into Cans, nice and locked for everyone to see^_^
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Insane Asylum
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Posted - 2006.03.25 06:08:00 -
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Originally by: Keta Min
the crucifixion is not offending (well maybe to some of those weird christians), but the fact that he got banned for pking is (there is no mention of an exploit). just shows what a crap game it must be.
Exactly, why not just make PVP not part of the game?
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Kel Shek
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Posted - 2006.03.25 06:17:00 -
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Originally by: Stephen HB
It's not like Jesus has a patent on crucifixion.
careful, if you really are fundamentalist then they might kick you out for saying that something that happened to jesus happened to someone other than him too!
Originally by: Insane Asylum
Exactly, why not just make PVP not part of the game?
I got the impression that it... was... part of the game. but that the person in question was repeatedly killing people as they came into the game... like for the first time.
you don't think someone who suicide kessied every noob ship they could that came out of the starting station, would get banned?
honestly as a method of account suspension/banning, its a rather nice idea. they can still get in and socialize with people (assuming they can... which I get the impression they can) that DO like them, or at least see whats going on...
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To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And Heaven in a Wild Flower
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour
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Kaemonn
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Posted - 2006.03.25 06:40:00 -
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I will allow this topic to continue on. I can see it heading toward the path of religous discussion and GM action discussion. As long as it does not escelate into that this topic will stay unlocked, but at the slightest hint of any religous discussion, or GM discussion this thread will be locked faster than Hammerhead can say "boobies"
~Kaemonn
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Sir Juri
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Posted - 2006.03.25 06:46:00 -
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lighten up ppl! first of its a roman empire punishement. Game is in the right setting. And ppl who wanna play "romans", wont be offended as its about the roman empire. I think its hilarious!
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Dimitri Chandler
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Posted - 2006.03.25 07:46:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
There's a big difference between crucifixion and rape. One can be depicted in a popular movie, the other can't. Can you guess which?
I draw your attention to the following movies:
The Passion of the Christ
Irreversible
examples where both these things have been depicted in popular movies.
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UndergrounD
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Posted - 2006.03.25 08:00:00 -
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Thats funny.
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xPreatorianx
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Posted - 2006.03.25 08:27:00 -
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I think a really good way to humiliate(sp?) people that macro mine and other stupid stuff should be a npc for say a month. Where he cant do any damage hardly and everyone can kill him but only in belts! And they get a small bounty say 1k for doin the deed. Stupid idea or could this really work?
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Klasanov
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Posted - 2006.03.25 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Alexis
So would rape. Should we start advocating that sexual harassment not be part of a TOS in a game based on ancient Rome solely because it's an anachronism?
Where did he even insiunate as such?
Your argument is either false dichotomy, or strawman. I tend to get the two confused, but the point is neither hold any weight. Ever.
Please explain how crucifixion crosses the line. It was a fairly common practice in Rome. The only reason it has any religious connotation was because Jesus was crucified.
Well, maybe I see it that way since I'm actually Agnostic...
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Cell Satimo
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Posted - 2006.03.25 09:14:00 -
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Haha very bold! I like it.
In case some people didn't notice, there already is Public Lynching in Eve - A quick read through the eve-online forums shows that.
So crucifixtion? why not! At least in that Rome game has progressed beyond mob law to a recognised and authorative judge - the game makers none the less.
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Xendie
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Posted - 2006.03.25 10:03:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Nebuli
Originally by: Malken
that just shows the inability of the developers to not being able to program in game mechanics that stops people from doing the things that are not allowed in that game.
crappy devs, not like the ones we got.
in eve everything is allowed as every "illegal" action has a consequence.
Erm, thats not realy true is it? lol
Never hear or see the video of a certain pirate corp using smartbombs on a apoc in a 1.0 and being boosted by other ships to keap him alive while he killed countless n00bs and police ships etc?
They also got banned btw.
i believe they were told to stop and that it was because they didnt that they got banned.
in the game in question the very thing the guy was doing is still possible to do.
in eve they plugged the loophole asap=good devs.
in that game they dont plug the hole because its easier to just toss out a little piece of graphic with the guys name on it instead.
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This would be great, because lag is not at all a problem currently.
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2006.03.25 10:17:00 -
[52]
Its about time a game company stood up against Pk'ers and griefers.
Not everone comes on line to kill/harrass their fellow man. Unless its a first person shooter like USArmy or Halo.
Eve is a universe that allows both PVE and PvP. Though some in the game beleave one should be nerfed while the other is allowed to go wild.
I wonder if enough people got together and complained about another players actions in Eve if the GM's/Dev's would take some similar action? Fines/temporay bans/loss of life and funds?
Dont get me wrong I beleave everyone has the right to play Eve his or her way, as they see fit. As long as the basic rules are followed. But when someone pushes those rules and just kills newbie and non-pvp people cause they can, then somthing should be done about it.
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Lauri Pasan
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Posted - 2006.03.25 10:41:00 -
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In EVE, you can get "crucified" aswell... Look at the billboards. While those people have not done anything "meta-wrong" they have comitted crimes in-game and are put on public display, as a warning and as a suggestion to capture/kill them. Incidentally, ironically, it is by most seen as a form of commendation. Sure their corpses are not put on display but I think they should. At least in Amarr space. Yeah.
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Tommy TenKreds
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Posted - 2006.03.25 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: SHINJI AKARI
Also, you would have to live in a 3rd world country to have have Jesus Christ and crucifixion not form a mental link in your brain. It's the same as Joan of Ark and being burned at the stake. If they would have chosen being burned at the stake people would have thought of her.
Actually when you mentioned being burned at the stake, I immediately thought of Wycliffe, so I guess that proves your point untrue.
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Captain Tightpants
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Posted - 2006.03.25 11:17:00 -
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Ha! He must be really cross.
If anyone's offended by it: he was probably a terrorism suspect. So it's okay.
Wouldn't work so well for Eve, though. They'd have to be pilloried by some sort of total stasis web in some high sec. system, whilst people fired squishy rotten tomatoes at them from squishy rotten tomato launchers.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2006.03.25 11:19:00 -
[56]
I was early Beta tester of Roma Victor, and belive me thats the most existing thing ever to happen in that game
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2006.03.25 11:22:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Roshan longshot
Its about time a game company stood up against Pk'ers and griefers.
Not everone comes on line to kill/harrass their fellow man. Unless its a first person shooter like USArmy or Halo.
Eve is a universe that allows both PVE and PvP. Though some in the game beleave one should be nerfed while the other is allowed to go wild.
I wonder if enough people got together and complained about another players actions in Eve if the GM's/Dev's would take some similar action? Fines/temporay bans/loss of life and funds?
Dont get me wrong I beleave everyone has the right to play Eve his or her way, as they see fit. As long as the basic rules are followed. But when someone pushes those rules and just kills newbie and non-pvp people cause they can, then somthing should be done about it.
Everything can be killed ine EVE, i like it
Hint EVE is PvP game.............lets not start on that again in another boring thread
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2006.03.25 11:34:00 -
[58]
Everything can be killed ine EVE, i like it
Hint EVE is PvP game.............lets not start on that again in another boring thread
Hint: Then dont start it again....
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter pirate or mixture of them all.
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Zaldiri
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Posted - 2006.03.25 11:49:00 -
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If you want to intergrate a don't cheat sign directly into a game I realy can't think of a better way to do it.
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Nee'kita Frist
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Posted - 2006.03.25 12:04:00 -
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I'm a Christian and I'm not remotely offended by this (why should I be? The Romans crucified thousands of people on the cross, the signicance for Christians is Jesus was God who came to earth and sacrifice for our wrongs, he did no wrong... anyway enough of that)
Heres my ACTUAL thought on the matter:
0wr F4th3R, wh0 0wnz h34\/3n, j00 r0x0rs! M4y 4|| 0wr b4s3 s0m3d4y Bl0ng t0 j00! M4y j00 0wn 34rth juss |1|3 j00 0wn h34\/3n. G1v3 us th1s d4y 0wr w4r3z, mp3z, 'n **** thr0ugh a ph4t |. 4nd cut us s0m3 sl4ck wh3n w3 4ct lik3 n00b l4m3rz, juss 4s w3 g1v3 n00bz 4 l34rn1n wh3n th3y l4m3 2 us. Pl34s3 d0n't l3t us 0wn s0m3 p00r d00d'z b0x3n wh3n w3'r3 t00 p1ss3d t0 th1nk 4b0ut wh4t's r1ght 4nd wr0ng, 4nd 1f j00 c0uld k33p th3 f3i 0ff 0wr b4ckz, w3'd 'pr3c14t3 1t. F0r j00 0wn 4ll 0wr b0x3n 43v3r 4nd 3v3r, 4m3n!
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.03.25 13:12:00 -
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Edited by: Bhaal on 25/03/2006 13:39:49
I was raised Roman Catholic, and I think that's a great way to punish Griefers & Exploiters...
If only the EVE DEV's had the guts to call out such players in a similar manner...
Talk about player events... I'd love to go spit and launch insults at them in game while their frozen corpse is on a cross in space for a week...
CanÆt imagine too many would log into the game though if all they could do when they log on is see their frozen corpse (and all their alts) on a cross...
I love the idea, F'ing brilliant...
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Burga Galti
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Posted - 2006.03.25 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Tightpants
Ha! He must be really cross.
If anyone's offended by it: he was probably a terrorism suspect. So it's okay.
Wouldn't work so well for Eve, though. They'd have to be pilloried by some sort of total stasis web in some high sec. system, whilst people fired squishy rotten tomatoes at them from squishy rotten tomato launchers.
Okay, first of all: you need a new jokebook.
Second: I see nothing wrong with this historically accurate method of punishment being used in a game set in that time and place.
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Benilopax
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Posted - 2006.03.25 14:36:00 -
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I think CCP should think of a similar punishment for certain players. Name and shame!
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Phrixus Zephyr
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Posted - 2006.03.25 14:38:00 -
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So its ok for you to walk around with a Gladius smashing people in the head. Just heaven forbid you get punished for it by crucifiction, (a punishment fitting with the roleplay of the game involved) because of religious connotation's.
Gimmie a break...
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Viktor Fyretracker
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Posted - 2006.03.25 14:45:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 25/03/2006 01:45:54
Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville
Originally by: Dark Shikari
The crucifixion makes quite a lot of sense in RP terms, tbh.
So would rape. Should we start advocating that sexual harassment not be part of a TOS in a game based on ancient Rome solely because it's an anachronism?
That's a total, utter non sequitur.
I say you're wrong because squirrels like nuts.
NO more like the Squirrels ARE nuts
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Nebuli
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Posted - 2006.03.25 15:48:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Xendie
Originally by: Nebuli
Originally by: Malken
that just shows the inability of the developers to not being able to program in game mechanics that stops people from doing the things that are not allowed in that game.
crappy devs, not like the ones we got.
in eve everything is allowed as every "illegal" action has a consequence.
Erm, thats not realy true is it? lol
Never hear or see the video of a certain pirate corp using smartbombs on a apoc in a 1.0 and being boosted by other ships to keap him alive while he killed countless n00bs and police ships etc?
They also got banned btw.
i believe they were told to stop and that it was because they didnt that they got banned.
in the game in question the very thing the guy was doing is still possible to do.
in eve they plugged the loophole asap=good devs.
in that game they dont plug the hole because its easier to just toss out a little piece of graphic with the guys name on it instead.
So you are saying the chap in the Roman game didnt get warned before being banned? I find that highlky unlikely.
You are also saying that now they are aware of the exploit they will do nothing about it? again highly unlikely.
Oh and EvE has "a little piece of graphic" as well, its called a billboard.
Honestly I dont see where you are coming from, this exploit/ban is NO DIFFERENT to the one I mentioned, they were killing n00bs, this guy was killing n))bs, they got asked to stop, I'm pretty much 100% sure they would have asked that guy to stop also, both got banned, wheres the difference?
Your original statement tried to make out it was impossible to do ANYTHING in EvE that could result in a banning, because the devs arew so great etc, I'm sorry but I just dont agree at all, every game has exploitable areas, that can take awhile before all are plugged, dont forget the game in mention hasnt even been released yet, and EvE has been out since 2003 (yes I have played since then) and I'm sure the loophole will be plugged in that game the same as it was in this.
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Kahani Lyn
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Posted - 2006.03.25 16:52:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Eternal Fury
Cynewulf, a character played by a Flint Michigan resident
OMG its Michael Moore!!!111
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.03.25 16:55:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville
Edited by: Alexis DeTocqueville on 25/03/2006 01:43:44
Originally by: Dark Shikari
The crucifixion makes quite a lot of sense in RP terms, tbh.
So would rape. Should we start advocating that sexual harassment not be part of a TOS in a game based on ancient Rome solely because it's an anachronism?
way way off center and inapropriate...
You need to get in touch with reality if you don't see what is wrong with what you said (see a proffesional, I hear those Dr's can help you with the "issues" you seem to have)
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Posted - 2006.03.25 17:05:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Bhaal
If only the EVE DEV's had the guts to call out such players in a similar manner...
Concord sanctioned solar system, 1.0 space. All PKers and exploiters are punished there. Players are taken to the station with no gear except a n00b ship with a t2 miner. To get out from the system, players will need to mine X amount of ore or minerals for their Concord agent. After meeting the quota, they will be able to leave the system through the stargates.
Visitors wishing to enter the system, can only enter via shuttles. They get to see how prisoners are doing, mining their way out.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2006.03.25 21:24:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Roshan longshot
Everything can be killed ine EVE, i like it
Hint EVE is PvP game.............lets not start on that again in another boring thread
Hint: Then dont start it again....
PvP= Player versus Player......everything in EVE is PvP
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Gamer4liff
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Posted - 2006.03.25 22:17:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Einheriar Ulrich
Originally by: Roshan longshot
Everything can be killed ine EVE, i like it
Hint EVE is PvP game.............lets not start on that again in another boring thread
Hint: Then dont start it again....
PvP= Player versus Player......everything in EVE is PvP
Stop it, Just stop it.
Lets all not open that can of worms and focus on the comedy in a greifer being crucified.
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Taran Blake
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Posted - 2006.03.25 23:29:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Bhaal
If only the EVE DEV's had the guts to call out such players in a similar manner...
Concord sanctioned solar system, 1.0 space. All PKers and exploiters are punished there. Players are taken to the station with no gear except a n00b ship with a t2 miner. To get out from the system, players will need to mine X amount of ore or minerals for their Concord agent. After meeting the quota, they will be able to leave the system through the stargates.
Visitors wishing to enter the system, can only enter via shuttles. They get to see how prisoners are doing, mining their way out.
Nah, just a base model Noob ship. That way they can't sell any of the bits for profit.
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lucco milanius
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Posted - 2006.03.25 23:41:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville
Edited by: Alexis DeTocqueville on 25/03/2006 01:43:44
Originally by: Dark Shikari
The crucifixion makes quite a lot of sense in RP terms, tbh.
So would rape. Should we start advocating that sexual harassment not be part of a TOS in a game based on ancient Rome solely because it's an anachronism?
I don't quite understand your point.  It sounds as if you are not advocating the use of crucifixion as a form of punishment in a game based in Roman times.
The objective of most games/MMORPGs is to provide as much realism as possible. This would be tempered with what would conceivably be acceptable based on societal standards. Many games are based on death and destruction, and as such, portrayal of various forms of death dealing is apparantly acceptable. The combat aspects of Eve are an example.
Rape, however, it morally detestable and should never be portrayed in any game or enacted in any way in real life.
Dark Shikari is commenting on the role playing aspect of crucifixion based on actual historical account. There were various forms of punishment such as the cross. Other forms might be an "X" shape or simply mounting someone on a stake. I am not offended by crucifixion, but would be offended by the inclusion of *****in a game.
The inclusion of crucifixion in Roma Victor as a form of punishment is somewhat unique. The fact that they use a cross in my view is irrelevent except that it was the form used in that age. Perhaps the only change I would suggest for that game would be to mount the player on a stake instead and make him/her wiggle a bit and cry out in pain and yell stuff like "I am a tard and deserve this punishment".
I think the real issue is that you are an alarmist--the type of person that cries foul at every turn. Perhaps you should seek psychological help for your affliction.
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DJBoo
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Posted - 2006.03.25 23:45:00 -
[74]
The original post was interesting, but all your replies have caused me to self destruct my ship and end myself by pod killing myself. Do you people play eve goodness?? Lock this thread, Death to carebears, long live PVP, Burn the forums!
  
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lucco milanius
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Posted - 2006.03.25 23:55:00 -
[75]
Originally by: DJBoo
The original post was interesting, but all your replies have caused me to self destruct my ship and end myself by pod killing myself. Do you people play eve goodness?? Lock this thread, Death to carebears, long live PVP, Burn the forums!
If you can't stand the forums then don't read them.
Death to Carebears.
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Moghydin
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Posted - 2006.03.25 23:56:00 -
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I think it was a good move by them. The guy violated game rules and got punished. Those who say that crucifiction is offending someones' relgious feelings have no ground to defend their point. In the Roman era crucifiction was a commonly practiced punishment for criminals and outlaws, it had absolutely no religous value then. Moreover, in the 1-st centuries of Christianity Christians didn't worship the cross, and a crucifiction was not considered a religious act. So, that move by game devs makes a great sence from an RP'ing point of view.
I think also that there's absolutely no room to compare Roma Victor to Eve and the main reason for that is that RV is still in it's beta stage, it also looks very different from Eve. So, yes, like it or not, but what can be called PK'ing elsewhere, in Eve is called PvP and is an integral part of the game.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.03.26 00:18:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Malken
that just shows the inability of the developers to not being able to program in game mechanics that stops people from doing the things that are not allowed in that game.
I don't see what you're getting at.
The guy was SPAWNKILLING where it's not allowed.
PK was still allowed in the area, but camping the respawn isn't.
Imagine playing WoW. Ok scared? Now imagine a battlegrounds where everyone spawned in the same spot when they died. Now imagine the other team carpet-bombing that spot with Area-damage, racking up kills at insane speeds. That'd be illegal.
Killing hordes of enemies elsewhere would be different though.
What he did, in EVE terms, would be like podding people while they're still in the station.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve...
This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
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DJBoo
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Posted - 2006.03.26 00:19:00 -
[78]
Originally by: lucco milanius
If you can't stand the forums then don't read them.
Death to Carebears.
you deny my right to protest? typical capitalist caldarian!
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.03.26 00:22:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville
Originally by: Dark Shikari
I never even implied whatsoever that RP was even the primary reason for such a system. I simply mentioned that it made sense RP-wise.
Right, and I retorted that so does rape, but our evolved standards of human decency impose a hard limit on how "authentic" roleplaying experiences can be. I think it crosses the line.
I really hope you're not trying to say *****was 'ok' in the Roman Empire. If you raped someone you normally got to spend your last day on earth trying to kill a lion with a rusty sword, or if you're 'lucky' you'd die from bloodloss when they castrated you, or you'd spend a long time rotting away in a fine, dark and damp dungeon.
Just because *****was common during the pillaging of towns, doesn't mean it'd be 'ok' like a crucifiction, which was a means of punishing the severe crimes. *****was never used as a means of criminal punishment.
Also, I pity any Christian who is actually offened because of how the guy was punished. I pity them for many reasons.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve...
This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran |
Dakath
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Posted - 2006.03.26 00:26:00 -
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The EVE equivalent would be to make an oh-so-uber PKer MINE for seven days without getting any profit from it.
And I would laugh my butt off!
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Shittake
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Posted - 2006.03.26 00:28:00 -
[81]
Originally by: SHINJI AKARI
I may be wrong, but i'm sure the producers of that game knew exactly what they were doing, they knew it was going to be controversial, they new it would get alot of attention, and they didn't care about ****ing off Christians.
The problem with the world today are the people who get easily offended, sometimes going out of their way to find something to be offended by (not saying you specifically Shinji)
People need to grow a skin and get over it.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.03.26 00:31:00 -
[82]
Originally by: SHINJI AKARI
There were tons of different types of corporal punishment that would also be historically accurate that they could have used. Also, you would have to live in a 3rd world country to have have Jesus Christ and crucifixion not form a mental link in your brain. It's the same as Joan of Ark and being burned at the stake. If they would have chosen being burned at the stake people would have thought of her.
I may be wrong, but i'm sure the producers of that game knew exactly what they were doing, they knew it was going to be controversial, they new it would get alot of attention, and they didn't care about ****ing off Christians.
I thank god every day that I'm a sane Catholic who doesn't get so easily offended, just like the Muslim friends I have weren't up in arms over those stupid cartoons awhile back.
First of all, as a student, well graduate, of History, I can tell you most people (yes even Christians) think of the Salem witch trials (or rather, witches in general) when it comes to being burned at the stake.
Secondly, if I worked at that company, Jesus and the crazy Bible-thumpers wouldn't affect my decisions. I'd have picked that form of punishment as well because when it comes to a pro-longed severe punishment, that's the best to use for that timeframe.
The bottomline is you're always going to **** someone off, and if you try to make sure you never offend anyone, you're never going to get **** done. I like how that company dealt with the person. I'd love to see CONCORD take its monthly/yearly round-up of cheaters, put them all in pods, then detonate a titan superweapon in the middle of them. I'd sure as hell log to watch that.
The mental link doesn't matter, because only ignorant people would think that the punishment type was even ment to offend them, or that the people probably didn't think that some people would get offended, because some people will get offended by ANYTHING.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve...
This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.03.26 00:38:00 -
[83]
Originally by: DJBoo
Originally by: lucco milanius
If you can't stand the forums then don't read them.
Death to Carebears.
you deny my right to protest? typical capitalist caldarian!
Wait, an Amarrian talking about rights?
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve...
This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran |
Valium Summer
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Posted - 2006.03.26 01:08:00 -
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I personally am deeply offended by this...
The Cross is WAAAAY too big for the condemned person's body.
Such a huge cross for such a small person is in very poor taste.
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Murukan
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Posted - 2006.03.26 01:28:00 -
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be more fun if you could poke their bodies with spears too. Anyone who is offended by crucifixion is a dumbass it's not like your immediete family member was crucified, and if the majority of your beliefs in christianity focuses around jesus' death then you obviously didn't get the right message from that book
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Reiisha
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Posted - 2006.03.26 02:23:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Alexis DeTocqueville
Edited by: Alexis DeTocqueville on 25/03/2006 01:43:44
Originally by: Dark Shikari
The crucifixion makes quite a lot of sense in RP terms, tbh.
So would rape. Should we start advocating that sexual harassment not be part of a TOS in a game based on ancient Rome solely because it's an anachronism?
Taboo's are meant to be broken.
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2006.03.26 02:43:00 -
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It's a game "where people roleplay slaves and citizens"...
Sounds incredibly interesting...
Roleplaying that you're a slave in roman times...
My lifelong dream tbh...
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Moghydin
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Posted - 2006.03.26 06:38:00 -
[88]
Originally by: ****take
The problem with the world today are the people who get easily offended, sometimes going out of their way to find something to be offended by (not saying you specifically Shinji)
People need to grow a skin and get over it.
QFT.
But folowing this line further can get this thread locked as there's a good deal of that damn political correctness everywhere.
From what I know, you start the game as a slave and progressing to a citizen status is 1 of your 1-st tasks in the game. I wish the game dev's GL with their project simply because that game is unique in it's kind. No other MMORPG is taking place in reallistically modelled ancient environment (those games where you run around with pointy ears and cast spells left and right aren't in this categry).
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.03.26 09:03:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Masta Killa
It's a game "where people roleplay slaves and citizens"...
Sounds incredibly interesting...
Roleplaying that you're a slave in roman times...
My lifelong dream tbh...
Some like to be dominated. So, in such a hectic life of the 21st century. Some like to escape into a virtual world where they can be dominated like slaves. Some like to give pain, and others like to receive pain.
HTH.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.03.26 10:22:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Bhaal
If only the EVE DEV's had the guts to call out such players in a similar manner...
Concord sanctioned solar system, 1.0 space. All PKers and exploiters are punished there. Players are taken to the station with no gear except a n00b ship with a t2 miner. To get out from the system, players will need to mine X amount of ore or minerals for their Concord agent. After meeting the quota, they will be able to leave the system through the stargates.
Visitors wishing to enter the system, can only enter via shuttles. They get to see how prisoners are doing, mining their way out.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.03.26 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Bhaal
If only the EVE DEV's had the guts to call out such players in a similar manner...
Concord sanctioned solar system, 1.0 space. All PKers and exploiters are punished there. Players are taken to the station with no gear except a n00b ship with a t2 miner. To get out from the system, players will need to mine X amount of ore or minerals for their Concord agent. After meeting the quota, they will be able to leave the system through the stargates.
Visitors wishing to enter the system, can only enter via shuttles. They get to see how prisoners are doing, mining their way out.
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Or alternatively, they can wait until they get unbanned. The Concord option is for "fast-tracking" their bans but they will have to work/mine for their freedom.
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Posted - 2006.03.26 10:50:00 -
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awsome i bet that guy gets to logg on aswell and curse them as he hangs there great fun 
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Rimme Ettakar
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Posted - 2006.03.28 08:13:00 -
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I was just thinking ... what's the roleplay equivalent of a ban? Then it strikes me - in Pandora's Star (Peter F Hamilton), everybody can live forever, they get resurrected if their bodies are lost (much like EVE cloning), but only up to the last "save point". Criminals get deprived of life, they're put into cold storage (a'la Demolition Man). After serving out their sentences deprived of the universe, they are then thawed out and rejoin society.
Incidentally, the 2nd part to Pandora's Star is titled "Judas Unchained".
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