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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2014.01.25 10:04:00 -
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Bienator II wrote:the amar tradehub has a new station model ;) looks awesome but its unfinished. Hope you don't roll it back till tuesday 
Definitely!  For years I was looking forward to see this station as real station and not just in this one L1/2 mission! This is absolutely marvelous! |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
2425
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Posted - 2014.01.25 16:49:00 -
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Rivr Luzade wrote:Bienator II wrote:the amar tradehub has a new station model ;) looks awesome but its unfinished. Hope you don't roll it back till tuesday Definitely! For years I was looking forward to see this station as real station and not just in this one L1/2 mission! This is absolutely marvelous! However, I think the windows should be a bit more yellow than the current orange. They look more like Blood Raider ship's windows than Amarr windows on some stations, like the new Station Hub.. Is the old Trade Post station model used somewhere else?
last patch reverted it to the TQ model :(
eve style bounties (done)
dust boarding parties
imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW |
Kusum Fawn
State War Academy
Caldari State
425
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Posted - 2014.01.25 18:32:00 -
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Oberine Noriepa wrote:Kusum Fawn wrote:Glad to see that the CCP art teamt is doing this instead of Modular POS designs. Yes. Surely the entire art department is working on this feature alone.  I'm not sure why the lack of content regarding the new POS system immediately makes you assume that no one is tasked to its development.
years of history.
If CCP isnt crowing about it early , its not even on their minds.
Pos mechanics are a big enough mechanic that if they were infact doing something they would have several blogs out
Like they do for the deployables.
Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.
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Tykari
The Observatory
159
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Posted - 2014.01.25 22:52:00 -
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Kusum Fawn wrote:Oberine Noriepa wrote:Kusum Fawn wrote:Glad to see that the CCP art teamt is doing this instead of Modular POS designs. Yes. Surely the entire art department is working on this feature alone. I'm not sure why the lack of content regarding the new POS system immediately makes you assume that no one is tasked to its development. years of history. If CCP isnt crowing about it early , its not even on their minds. Pos mechanics are a big enough mechanic that if they were infact doing something they would have several blogs out Like they do for the deployables.
Assuming deployables aren't going to end up serving as replacements for the current POS system in the long run.
In this dark void we are like brilliant stars, holding within us both the creative and destructive power to bring a new dawn upon worlds or plunge them into eternal darkness. |
Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2014.01.26 00:17:00 -
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Kusum Fawn wrote:Oberine Noriepa wrote:Kusum Fawn wrote:Glad to see that the CCP art teamt is doing this instead of Modular POS designs. Yes. Surely the entire art department is working on this feature alone. I'm not sure why the lack of content regarding the new POS system immediately makes you assume that no one is tasked to its development. years of history. If CCP isnt crowing about it early , its not even on their minds. Pos mechanics are a big enough mechanic that if they were infact doing something they would have several blogs out Like they do for the deployables.
If you bothered to properly keep up on the development of this game, you would know that deployables utilize a system that exists separately from the current POS code, and that this new system allows developers to surmount the horrid legacy issues that prevented any substantial iteration on the feature. (Source) |
Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
189
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Posted - 2014.01.26 11:43:00 -
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CCP BlueScreen wrote:marVLs wrote:Ok they look awesome but...
What about that destruction model showed few years ago (i think it was Rokh model), and not so long ago as future thing (hurricane hull)?
I mean instant spawning model on death of another model in place is not something that was promised and not something good for game in 2014...
Is it still planed, if yes why waste time for those models? Eve really need something new and big in terms of astetics, artistic, graphic etc. something like those showed real time ship destruction, and collision model with AoE explosions etc. This is true. The dynamic ship damage was and is a thing we very much want to make happen, though not necessarily directly connected to the wrecks themselves. Actually the 'holes' that a punched in the hulls of the new wrecks (a form of damage decal), is lifted from these ship damage experiments. Having dynamic visual ship damage is a much more involved enterprise though, we will need to define and visually represent shield, armor and hull damage separately for that to work. What happens when you run a stable armor tanking Rep. cycle at something like 3/4 to 1/2 armor, does holes, fires and hull breaches just abruptly appear and disappear between each cycle? that could get really old really fast. Same goes for shield damage, while hull would usually be a very short glimpse of damage before you go belly up. Not to say we are not still aiming towards having something like this visually represented, we would absolutely love that, but it is a separate and more complicated matter than wrecks themselves.
Yes, it's a complicated process. But so is everything thats worth doing. Like missiles.
The concept was shown two years ago, talked about far longer than that, and it sounds as if you guys havent even started on it. Why are static wrecks (far less impressive) considered a higher priority? They are pretty, but clearly not what people want. It's nice that we want better ship damage, and you want it, and everybody wants it, but when you say things like "well, we sure are aiming for that one day" when this much time has passed it makes it pretty clear that the actual odds of it ever appearing are that of a snowballs chance in hell. Kinda like modular POS's. Kinda like player-run deadspace pockets. Kinda like meaningful ambulation.
And considering you guys made it a point to showcase and talk about these things in the first place (and at great length), I'd say thats some pretty heavy BS.
If you're going to advertise something to try and hype people up at fanfest, you should be working on it before projects like this contradict it. |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
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Posted - 2014.01.26 11:57:00 -
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Manage your expectations, Fanfest presentations are not 100% features. They are concepts & idea's that are being thrown around. And it's one thing for an Art department to make a mock up of ship damage, and another for it to actually be coded into the game as a true dynamic event. |
Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Covert Intervention
189
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Posted - 2014.01.26 12:13:00 -
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So you justify having something that is not a 100% feature shown and talked about at great length and used for advertisement, but not the things that actually make it into the game like this? Of course, because the reality isn't anywhere near as exciting and doesn't sell.
Let me put it to you another way.
If dynamic explosions were NOT intended to be put into the game, why the hell was time and money sunk into making the demo in the first place?
Because its an advertisement. Advertisements are the only way you can justify that kind of expense. And it was a deliberately misleading one. That's not ok, regardless of whatever disclaimer they attach to it. People were led to believe that kind of thing was being worked on, and it wasn't.
For the record, I have learned to manage my expectations with CCP and I knew this was something that would never make it into the game. I just think its sad as hell that I can say that kind of thing in advance, and then show up to this thread like clockwork and be proven right about it.
That right there is one hell of a problem. |
Nykala
L.L.A.M.A.
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Posted - 2014.01.26 17:42:00 -
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Just saw the capital wrecks on SiSi today. Friggin awesome! :D There is just one concern i have with freighter models. Wouldn't the vast amounts of space they have leave more of an open or hollowed out gap somewhere? I mean, these ships can hold constructed battleships in them. I could say the same for capitals drone/fleet hangars, but the angles, debris, and shading seem to hide enough of those areas where it prolly wouldn't be noticed.
Also, somewhat off topic side note. If these capital wrecks end up becoming a sort of player spawned (upon destruction) DUST 514 pve wreck exploration map, like in deadspace 3s "moonwalk" area... me wuld luff jOO long tiem CCP. ^.^ Drop off a squad of dusties via drop pod, they poke around until its complete or they run out of clones in the drop pod, salvage some form of goodies, pick em up, move on. |
Siegfried Tahl
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.28 15:51:00 -
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http://imgur.com/a/Ge7E9 Let me repeat that until maybe some Dev comments, capital ship wrecks only have icons, no preview window. Wrecks last 2 hours, or disappear when salvaged. Much effort making them V3 with little result, unless a monument [LANDMARK] TITAN GRAVEYARD will take place.
Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4106011
Two Rogue Drone Mothers http://i.imgur.com/qwvEiQG.jpg-á |
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chaosjj
The Onirvura Initiative
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Posted - 2014.01.29 12:48:00 -
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CCP BlueScreen wrote:chaosjj wrote:CCP BlueScreen wrote:Obviously we don't want graphics glitches on our assets, especially our new or V3 updated content.
When you see graphics errors like this, please file a defect on them, we will get the defect and we will fix it.
I will have a look at the Gallente station with the obviously warped UV's, and the new techno pod (where I coincidentally agree with you on the somewhat over sized blinky).
About the bubbles, I will inquire about the warped poles as well. Does this include geometry gaps? because Most V3 ships are full of them If what you mean by that, are actual holes in the mesh, then yes, that most deferentially include geometry gaps. Please either file defects on the ships in question, or list them here for me.
CCP BlueScreen, Here is a list of ships that have graphic issues on their textures, some of them are rather small, but i'll include them anyway and show how to find them.
Ships i know have geometry gaps: ( ill snap some pictures, and bug report it later today )
Vargur:
The ship has a structure right above the lower wing (the part where the little panels open when in bastion mode)
there is a large gap on the underside of this structure through which you can see through the ship itself.
Kronos:
Background light seems to leak trough the part of thip right above the moveable piece that supports turret 5 and 6
Tornado
there is a horizontal gap in the center of the ship when viewing the ship sideway's |
seth Hendar
I love you miners
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Posted - 2014.01.29 14:31:00 -
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CCP BlueScreen wrote:
What happens when you run a stable armor tanking Rep. cycle at something like 3/4 to 1/2 armor, does holes, fires and hull breaches just abruptly appear and disappear between each cycle? that could get really old really fast.
Same goes for shield damage, while hull would usually be a very short glimpse of damage before you go belly up.
Not to say we are not still aiming towards having something like this visually represented, we would absolutely love that, but it is a separate and more complicated matter than wrecks themselves.
i think the answer for that is an old electronic answer called hysteresis |
Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2014.01.30 12:09:00 -
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Wouldn't it be easier to just have visible hull damage once you enter structure? I mean... that's pretty much how it works already. Shield and armor damage effects could just be localized to the ship model and made temporary with some identifiable animations for when you get hit, lose shield/armor, or regain shield/armor. Making these animations run in a smooth and recognizable manner shouldn't be too difficult. Visible hull damage would just work the way the same way you enter structure now: It appears and is persistent until you repair your ship. Of course, to avoid complications, the hull damage effects shouldn't be implemented in a way that contradicts a ship's function. (e.g. Areas with visible hardpoints aren't destroyed, but other areas possess visible battle damage.) |
Hal Morsh
Digital Alchemist
The Fire Nation Syndicate
6
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Posted - 2014.02.03 05:03:00 -
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LOTS of stuff could be done.
When in shields the damage hits a spot of shield, shield boosted could pulse out a shield like bubble that fades in visiblity very quickly, like in mass effect when your shields come back up, and when armor is hit, you see a small puff or little texture flakes sort of flash off the spot it's hit.
Then of course you could make it so in hull the shots go right through the ship, maybe a tiny explosion here or there when taking hull damage. Not like the fire though where it's permanent untill repaired otherwise you would have a ship fizzing and popping constantly. Make it connected to the actual shots to simulate the ship going down untill it's finally destroyed at 0% |
Fiona Feignes
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.04.09 19:09:00 -
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I know it is only a small thing, but it really annoys me. When I zoom in on my Ishtar, and many other ships, the words CREO DRON are crystal sharp along with the reflections, lines of the ship etc. BUT why, oh why are the portal windows so pixcelly and blurry? I run Eve on full graphics. It would be nice to see the windows clearly as well. Thanks :) |
Nagarythe Tinurandir
Tormented of Destiny
German - Wings
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Posted - 2014.04.10 11:37:00 -
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Fiona Feignes wrote:I know it is only a small thing, but it really annoys me. When I zoom in on my Ishtar, and many other ships, the words CREO DRON are crystal sharp along with the reflections, lines of the ship etc. BUT why, oh why are the portal windows so pixcelly and blurry? I run Eve on full graphics. It would be nice to see the windows clearly as well. Thanks :)
because the windows are part of the overall texture of the ship which has a much lower resolution than the manufacturer decal.
they may even have the same resolution, with the ship texture stretched over a lot more surface ^^
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Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2014.04.11 01:50:00 -
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Alas, the only solution for such a problem would be to release a high-resolution texture pack. We're supposed to be getting that at some point...  |
H3llHound
Koshaku
Gentlemen's Agreement
15
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Posted - 2014.04.12 15:40:00 -
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Soon(TM) |
Fiona Feignes
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.04.13 22:08:00 -
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Oberine Noriepa wrote:Alas, the only solution for such a problem would be to release a high-resolution texture pack. We're supposed to be getting that at some point...
cool :) |
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CCP BunnyVirus
C C P
C C P Alliance
1172
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Posted - 2014.04.14 12:33:00 -
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Fiona Feignes wrote:I know it is only a small thing, but it really annoys me. When I zoom in on my Ishtar, and many other ships, the words CREO DRON are crystal sharp along with the reflections, lines of the ship etc. BUT why, oh why are the portal windows so pixcelly and blurry? I run Eve on full graphics. It would be nice to see the windows clearly as well. Thanks :)
Those are privacy filters that are placed over windows by the capsuleGÇÖs software that translates the input from your ship sensors to your mind.
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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2014.04.14 12:43:00 -
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CCP BunnyVirus wrote:Fiona Feignes wrote:I know it is only a small thing, but it really annoys me. When I zoom in on my Ishtar, and many other ships, the words CREO DRON are crystal sharp along with the reflections, lines of the ship etc. BUT why, oh why are the portal windows so pixcelly and blurry? I run Eve on full graphics. It would be nice to see the windows clearly as well. Thanks :) Those are privacy filters that are placed over windows by the capsuleGÇÖs software that translates the input from your ship sensors to your mind.
Not sure if troll or serious. |
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