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suid0
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.01.23 09:29:00 -
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Hunter Arngrahm wrote:
To be perfectly fair, he is being kind of whiny, and his idea does punish people who normally might not intend any harm or foul play. It doesn't help that he keeps saying "Criminal flag" when I think he means "Suspect flag", since Criminal would imply everyone would get concorded for setting foot in another person's missioning space, which is kind of the worst idea imaginable.
rofl, to be honest this entire thread is whiny.
On one side you have the missioner trying to protect their mission item and on the other you have what comes across like an alt of the thief desperately trying to protect their extortion racket.
the entire enemy support fleet is dead except for one interdictor a titan could easily finish off with drones
-á--áCommander Ted |
suid0
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.01.23 09:49:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:suid0 wrote:trying to protect their extortion racket. The only thing I'm trying to protect is the basic core principal that suicide should be a defining mechanic of suicide ganking.
yes of course
Abdul 'aleem wrote:suid0 wrote:Hunter Arngrahm wrote:
To be perfectly fair, he is being kind of whiny, and his idea does punish people who normally might not intend any harm or foul play. It doesn't help that he keeps saying "Criminal flag" when I think he means "Suspect flag", since Criminal would imply everyone would get concorded for setting foot in another person's missioning space, which is kind of the worst idea imaginable.
rofl, to be honest this entire thread is whiny. On one side you have the missioner trying to protect their mission item and on the other you have what comes across like an alt of the thief desperately trying to protect their extortion racket. The mission item is in no way "protected" by the change that I am proposing. It can still be stolen. It is just that the thief is vulnerable to counter-play during the entire process of the theft and not protected by Concord until they actually take the item.
Yeah, but your mechanic is bad and breaks too many other things. I get what you want to achieve but it wont work, well... it will work (for your specific scenario) but with too many unexpected negative side effects.
If you want examples just go look at all the threads currently about inexperienced players with drones set to aggressive complaining about unwillingly entering PVP engagements because someone shot their MTU in hi-sec but their safety was green.
Same deal, people will accidentally flag suspect and get killed when they were legitimately helping a friend out. How you ask? they're in fleet so they wont flag? scenario: P2 joins P1's fleet and is in the mission with them, P2 has a disconnect and logs back in, now P2 gets to warp to P1's mission pocket possibly before they can rejoin fleet and goes suspect, it's an e-warp and cannot be cancelled.
If you aren't prepared to think outside the box at what negative or unexpected effects your suggestion will have and get tunnel vision thinking only of your specific problem you wish to solve you can't really expect people to support or agree with your idea.
the entire enemy support fleet is dead except for one interdictor a titan could easily finish off with drones
-á--áCommander Ted |
suid0
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
110
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Posted - 2014.01.23 11:06:00 -
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Abdul 'aleem wrote:
Maybe you should read my response to post #124 as you obviously missed post #128
I read it... I hadn't responded because sometimes you get to the point and are well aware you're just tying to push **** uphill with a stick.
But now that we're here, you've just thrown in more poorly though out ideas on ways to solve the bad side effects of your original bad idea.
If you want to know why your response is also a bad idea I challenge you to do some research. Go and investigate the reasons for the crimewatch rewrite & some of the issues they were trying to solve. (which you are now trying to reintroduce)
Actually I'll make things even easier for you:
Watch and understand this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3jK-XZ2KnM
Read this: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/73443
the entire enemy support fleet is dead except for one interdictor a titan could easily finish off with drones
-á--áCommander Ted |
suid0
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
110
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Posted - 2014.01.23 13:03:00 -
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Abdul 'aleem wrote:suid0 wrote:Abdul 'aleem wrote:
Maybe you should read my response to post #124 as you obviously missed post #128
I read it... I hadn't responded because sometimes you get to the point and are well aware you're just tying to push **** uphill with a stick. But now that we're here, you've just thrown in more poorly though out ideas on ways to solve the bad side effects of your original bad idea. If you want to know why your response is also a bad idea I challenge you to do some research. Go and investigate the reasons for the crimewatch rewrite & some of the issues they were trying to solve. (which you are now trying to reintroduce) Actually I'll make things even easier for you: Watch and understand this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3jK-XZ2KnMRead this: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/73443 I can find nothing in that information that supports your claims.
#145Posted: 2014.01.23 11:06
#150Posted: 2014.01.23 11:16
Given the youtube vid of the dev session goes for 40+ minutes and you replied only 10 minutes after me it's clearly obvious you didn't even bother to educate yourself.
Ignorance might be bliss... but it's still ignorance
the entire enemy support fleet is dead except for one interdictor a titan could easily finish off with drones
-á--áCommander Ted |
suid0
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
111
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Posted - 2014.01.23 13:18:00 -
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what drugs are you on?
no troll.
the entire enemy support fleet is dead except for one interdictor a titan could easily finish off with drones
-á--áCommander Ted |
suid0
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
111
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Posted - 2014.01.23 13:31:00 -
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Abdul 'aleem wrote:Abdul 'aleem wrote:suid0 wrote:what drugs are you on? no troll. lol that's pretty funny. DR:TL Take the time to prove your own claims don't make others do it for you.
ROFL, you wouldn't read it anyway.
also you seem lost... this is your thread, it's actually your job to prove to us why your change would benefit everyone.
Note: At the point of this post your idea has exactly.... 0 likes, that really speaks for itself
(We'll now assume any it gets shortly after are your alts)
the entire enemy support fleet is dead except for one interdictor a titan could easily finish off with drones
-á--áCommander Ted |
suid0
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
111
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Posted - 2014.01.23 13:59:00 -
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Abdul 'aleem wrote:Forum rules sticky... the very top one: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6341&find=unreadfor you: Please, read the forum rules, and pay attention to them. If you don't like someone's idea, please remember to post with respect towards fellow players at all times and remain constructive. Thus a couple ground rules: 1) This is a breeding ground for ideas. If someone has an idea, listen to it. If you don't like it, think about why. Constructive feedback is good. Posting "That's an awful idea," is not constructive. Are you really saying anything more than "That's an awful idea"?
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5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
Several people have explained quite clearly and politely what their objections are and why. Maybe read and acknowledge these instead of simply disregarding them in a provocative manner?
You even later admitted you didn't actually look at the content I linked to, after first posting that it contained nothing that backed my claims, implying you had.
the entire enemy support fleet is dead except for one interdictor a titan could easily finish off with drones
-á--áCommander Ted |
suid0
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
111
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Posted - 2014.01.23 14:03:00 -
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Abdul 'aleem wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Abdul 'aleem wrote:Generally, the onus is on the person making the claim to substantiate it, not the person that they are talking to. Really? He provided a link to content which substantiated his claims. Yeah I disagree.
It's responses like this that provide nothing to the discussion and look as if you're just trying to provoke people.
the entire enemy support fleet is dead except for one interdictor a titan could easily finish off with drones
-á--áCommander Ted |
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