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Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
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Posted - 2014.01.23 11:08:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:No, but interesting question :).
Funny that the first three replies are female avatars XD.
So Altrue, basically you're saying that want to pretend to be a woman.
Doesn't that strike you as an indicator, at least in some cases, for homosexual tendencies?
Actually i would suggest that the ones who find it disturbing and/or wrong are the ones who have anxiety over their sexual identity. I refer you to Mr Putin who pretends to be rapidly homophobic whilst doing photoshoots that look like he is trying to get into the village people. In any case why would you make a leap from female avatar to homosexual when transgender would surely be the route to go in your outlet of prejudice? as a side note the majority of cross-dressors are heterosexual. as a further side note why do you think this matters in any way whatsoever? sexual preference is hardly something that says anything about a person character. here is a list of all the fiat currencies that didn't end up at zero value.....and here is a list of the places where a currency pegged to a real commodity has successfully co-existed with compound interest....-á Here is a physics professor explaining why sustainable growth isn't a thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY |

Jint Hikaru
Truly Transdimensional The Nova Foundry
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Posted - 2014.01.23 11:16:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:No, but interesting question :).
Funny that the first three replies are female avatars XD.
So Altrue, basically you're saying that want to pretend to be a woman.
Doesn't that strike you as an indicator, at least in some cases, for homosexual tendencies?
OMG, obvious Troll much?
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |

Karen Avioras
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.23 11:18:00 -
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I be man but like to mix. I'd rather have 5 m and 5 f than 10 f/m chars. Mostly do this because I run our of names for a gender. |

Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.01.23 11:20:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:Lucy Oreless wrote:Troll  But on a serious note i am realy starting to wonder why so many people are concerned about other peoples sexual preferences  Is it seriously that important to so many people what others do sexually? Sometimes one can wonder if we realy have come out of the dark-ages.... Confirming that I don't care who anyone on Eve Online wants to ****. That's pretty much your business and I've got my own **** to worry about.
Both these quotes hit the hammer on the head... Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |

Springe
Bastelrunde EV People in Lousy Ships
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Posted - 2014.01.23 11:28:00 -
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It's just so much better when you get owned by a little girl in space. |

Tebizla
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Posted - 2014.01.23 11:35:00 -
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Real life friend of mine plays this game with a male character and she's not into girl on girl action. So no, I don't think it's a sign. I think it's more a matter of preference. Then again I could be wrong. Obviously not a forum / spy / market alt ... |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
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Posted - 2014.01.23 11:35:00 -
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Altrue wrote:[quote=Diamond Zerg] I'm going to assume some numbers but I believe they are close to the truth. 5% belongs to the fist (CCP devs likes to do that I noticed :D) 5% belongs to the second. 90% belongs to the third category. In this case you can say that your avatar is also a character.  I'd be worried if 5% of the player base were CCP devs.  Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |

Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.23 11:36:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:...
Anyway, is this behaviour a sign of homosexuality? ...
Troll/10 but anyway...
The term homosexual is historically recent. In the time of Juvenal, people were considered passive or active in such matters. Translating the New Testament closely we see some harsh words directed at catamites, those who go against their nature for gain and also condemnation of people who'll just get up to anything. No mention of men who are good with colors, however. Your tension about this stems from diseased social programming and an abundance of food.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |

Sid Crash
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Posted - 2014.01.23 11:36:00 -
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Based on the OP's ... logic, as my character has red hair I must long to be a ginger irl.
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
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Posted - 2014.01.23 11:39:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:Hi.
I have seen a lot of female names accompanied by female avatars in EVE, and most of these characters have a man behind the keyboard.
Personally, being represented by a female name and avatar feels weird to me. Does anyone else feel the same way?
Anyway, is this behaviour a sign of homosexuality? Does it reflect the desire some men have to be more like a woman?
No, more liukely sign of sexual maturity ans being well assured of masculinity. Someone that fels like you on other hand is clearly much closer to falling to the other side since you prooved to not be safe enough about your identity. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |

Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
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Posted - 2014.01.23 11:41:00 -
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When you log in eve you need to click on a picture.. a real men never clicks on a picture of a male to open anything. "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |

Rowena Saginta Sari
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.23 11:45:00 -
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For me, it's a habit I have picked up in other MMORPGs.
If I have to stare at a butt during most of my playtime, it better be a pretty one.
So there you go. Habits die slowly (if at all). |

Mortis Betruger
F..K Y.U
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Posted - 2014.01.23 11:51:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:Hi.
I have seen a lot of female names accompanied by female avatars in EVE, and most of these characters have a man behind the keyboard.
Personally, being represented by a female name and avatar feels weird to me. Does anyone else feel the same way?
Anyway, is this behaviour a sign of homosexuality? Does it reflect the desire some men have to be more like a woman?
Yes
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Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
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Posted - 2014.01.23 11:58:00 -
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Why are you supressing your homosexual desires, Diamond? :/ Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count! Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!) You're at it from day 0! |

Diamond Zerg
Taking Solo Away.
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Posted - 2014.01.23 12:26:00 -
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Tbh if I have them mine are rather limited, but I think many gay men like Ian McKellen are incredible people.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with homosexual desires Angelica. I'm just asking the honest question to folks like yourself: do you think you might be a bit gay?
Could it possibly make you feel happy to admit that you have these tendencies, and that's part of why you roleplay females? |
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2014.01.23 12:42:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:Doesn't that strike you as an indicator, at least in some cases, for homosexual tendencies?
So, this thread kind of smells a little bit trollish, but I'll give a response because when taken seriously, the choices we make when we create an avatar are pretty interesting, and I find the sociology behind the EVE Universe and how we all interact within it pretty fascinating.

As a guy who quite openly admits that he likes guys and girls, (I've joked with a lot of players about cute Gallente and Caldari guys on these forums), I see this as an absolutely ludicrous statement.
There are plenty of gay guys out there, there are plenty of gay women out there, and there are plenty of people who are quite happy attracted to both genders. There are also quite a few people who're unsure of their gender, or feel they'd like to switch gender.
There are also those who've been bold enough to take steps to move forward with that change under the eyes of what can often be a very judgmental and superficial society that, in certain circles, remains very obsessed purely with physical attributes and appearance.
I've actually spoken to a lot of EVE players regarding this over the years, specifically guys who play female characters, and girls who play male characters (who believe me, there are more of than you think!).
Do we then flip the statement you made, in order to say that a woman playing a male character also has homosexual tendencies?
I also think that statement is absolutely ludicrous.
- Perhaps some people select a gender and appearance based on what they find attractive?
- Perhaps others select the same attributes based on what they feel is within themselves as a form of self expression?
- Maybe others select those attributes based on what they feel other people might find attractive?
- Perhaps some others see it as a form of escapism, and it's entirely unrelated to their preference of personal gender, or sexual preference?
- Still, some people may just look to create an avatar that's funny in appearance or is otherwise amusing to themselves or other people.
Maybe there are other explanations for why people chose a different gender when creating an avatar to represent themselves in an online game?
I think that for the best part, in some way shape for form, people's avatars are an expression of themselves. How that expression relates to the player behind the digital representation they choose to portray in the EVE Universe, is locked entirely within their own mind, and their business alone unless they decide that they want to share it with a wider audience.
Everyone has their own opinion of what they find attractive or otherwise appealing, and sometimes that doesn't even factor into the thought process when people create avatars.
I don't think that the selection of a specific gender for your avatar in an online game, when compared in relation to your real life gender, has any tangible link with real word sexual orientation at all, and to be fair I could see how some people actually might be insulted by that kind of insinuation.
Just my two cents! 
Also, moving this to Out of Pod Experience!
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Diamond Zerg
Taking Solo Away.
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Posted - 2014.01.23 12:42:00 -
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CCP Falcon.... Thank you for your response. When I saw your name in the notifications I thought the thread had been locked.
My friend I'm not insinuating that all men who roleplay as women have homosexual tendencies, I'm suggesting that SOME of them MIGHT.
Isn't it a part of gay culture to try and be more like a woman? Or do I totally have the wrong end of the stick? |

Arnpior
Corus Industries Ltd Corus Conglomerate
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Posted - 2014.01.23 12:45:00 -
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I've chosen female avatars in other games primarily because it looks better than staring at a big beefy male toon. That doesn't really apply in EvE for the most part.... so I dont see myself rolling up a female alt anytime soon. To answer the OP, NO I dont think your avatar choices in any way reflect on who you are as a person irl.
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2014.01.23 12:47:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:Isn't it a part of gay culture to try and be more feminine? Or do I totally have the wrong end of the stick?
As a guy who has a lot of gay, bisexual and transgender friends, I can safely say that you absolutely have the wrong end of the stick!

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Random McNally
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.23 12:50:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:CCP Falcon.... Thank you for your response. When I saw your name in the notifications I thought the thread had been locked.
My friend I'm not insinuating that all men who roleplay as women have homosexual tendencies, I'm suggesting that SOME of them MIGHT.
You say that the avatars are often an expression of oneself. Don't you think it likely that men who represent themselves with feminine avatars would on average have more gay tendencies?
Isn't it a part of gay culture to try and be more feminine? Or do I totally have the wrong end of the stick? Wow....
You couldn't have missed the boat any further. If you are not a troll, you need to open your eyes and get some education. Maybe start reading the responses that people have been posting on this bridge.
I have a female toon. She is, IMHO, much prettier to look at than this one. Does it make me gay that I'd rather look at an attractive female avatar? Hope not....otherwise my wife will be in for a surprise. Co-Host of the High Drag Podcast. http://highdrag.wordpress.com/ Check out the space music at http://minddivided.com |

Random McNally
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
46058
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Posted - 2014.01.23 12:51:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Diamond Zerg wrote:Isn't it a part of gay culture to try and be more feminine? Or do I totally have the wrong end of the stick? As a guy who has a lot of gay, bisexual and transgender friends, I can safely say that you absolutely have the wrong end of the stick!  Confirmed.
(Why do you bring the trolls to OoPE, Falcon??? Why???) Co-Host of the High Drag Podcast. http://highdrag.wordpress.com/ Check out the space music at http://minddivided.com |

Webvan
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.23 12:57:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:Hi. blah blah blah Is trolling a sign of beasteality? -10/10 thought I was in WoW forums  |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
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Posted - 2014.01.23 13:00:00 -
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Webvan wrote:Diamond Zerg wrote:Hi. blah blah blah Is trolling a sign of beasteality?

Trolls have feelings, too... You monster. Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |

Slade Trillgon
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1591
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Posted - 2014.01.23 13:05:00 -
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I am not even going to read the thread before I post my initial response.
You are assuming that homosexuality is a feminine characteristic. Most cross dressers are straight 
EDIT: Oh, and I know a number of 'bears' would crush the average male and they truly like slobbing the nob  |

embrel
BamBam Inc.
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Posted - 2014.01.23 13:12:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:
Could it possibly make you feel happy to admit that you have these tendencies, and that's part of why you roleplay females?
I always thought gay was about boy-on-boy action. So, I'm still wondering what a female avatar would have to do with it. |

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
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Posted - 2014.01.23 13:24:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:I'm just asking the honest question to folks like yourself: do you think you might be a bit gay?
Nope, not at all.
But again confirming that you should probably let other people worry about who they're ******* instead of worrying so much about who they're *******.
You really do have other things to worry about mate - like becoming a warlord. 
"You should just create one thread and put all of your complaints in it instead of littering the forums with multiple threads." ~CCP Falcon
Paranoia never killed anyone. -áA complete absence of it has. |

Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
795
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Posted - 2014.01.23 14:15:00 -
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As a heterosexual male, I get sexually attracted at women, right? So I make my avatar a female to look at her nice bum.
The OP made his character a male, so he gets to look at male bum. Hm...
Appears like the OP has no clue about what the word "homosexual" actually means, or the difference to "cross-dresser". Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2014.01.23 14:35:00 -
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So, this is a valid discussion regarding why people choose the avatars they do, and the social commentary surrounding them.
Let's be sure to keep the responses clean and civil, because I'd like this thread to stay open for people to comment freely.
I'm going to give it a quick clean up, so lets keep the topic on the right track!
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Sodium Canine
Rubber Assh0les
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Posted - 2014.01.23 14:37:00 -
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Altrue wrote:
People make three types of avatars : - Those meant to represent who they are - Those meant to represent who they want to be - Those meant to represent who they want to play. (Which is the correct definition of an in-game avatar. In this category you will find some people who rightfully want their game to be far from their daily life. Others who just don't care.)
I'm going to assume some numbers but I believe they are close to the truth. 5% belongs to the fist (CCP devs likes to do that I noticed :D) 5% belongs to the second. 90% belongs to the third category. In this case you can say that your avatar is also a character.
There's a 4th type: Avatars that are slapped together in 60 seconds or so to get on with more important things. o/
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.01.23 14:49:00 -
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Sodium Canine wrote:Altrue wrote:
People make three types of avatars : - Those meant to represent who they are - Those meant to represent who they want to be - Those meant to represent who they want to play. (Which is the correct definition of an in-game avatar. In this category you will find some people who rightfully want their game to be far from their daily life. Others who just don't care.)
I'm going to assume some numbers but I believe they are close to the truth. 5% belongs to the fist (CCP devs likes to do that I noticed :D) 5% belongs to the second. 90% belongs to the third category. In this case you can say that your avatar is also a character.
There's a 4th type: Avatars that are slapped together in 60 seconds or so to get on with more important things. o/
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