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Potato ChipEater
Drenai Warriors
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Posted - 2014.01.23 15:48:00 -
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So today I had two Dramiels. One was kite fit, one was brawl.
I would obviously set the brawl fit to orbit at 500 or whatever. And the kite fit to lets say 15km.
I see a target and I try to kill it with my brawl Dramiel first and I die. So I say, "okay, i'll kite you to death MOFO". Then I redock quick after losing my first brawl Dramiel and get in my kite Dramiel..... then I return to the FW site and engage, hes 17km off the beacon and I get a quick distrupt on him and MWD off and think, "what an idiot". Except instead of orbiting at lets say 15km(like a kiter should want to) I orbit at 500 or so that my first brawl Dramiel was set at.....
So I die first because the guy has tens of thousands more SP then me the first time, and the second because Eve wont let me set an orbit distance for each ship individually, its per ship type I believe. Such as if I set a Comet to orbit at 500, for a brawl comet, and 15km for a kite Comet, either time I set the orbit distance on one it will reset the orbit distance on the other to the same.
I'm sure many people have died because of this problem, and I am sure many people have just learned to live with it and accept that orbit distance settings suck. Or maybe someone who can do something about this will read it and do something to fix it. |

Collie Buddz
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2014.01.23 15:52:00 -
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Remember to check it every time you undock, or if that's too hard then learn to pvp without relying on orbit alone. |

Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
612
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Posted - 2014.01.23 15:54:00 -
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It's not broken at all mate. It's set per hull type, what else could they do?
You just manually set your orbit for whatever set up you're flying.
Or right click your target and choose a specific orbit based on how you read his fit.
I noticed most of your kills are in a gang, and your solo kills are nearly all much cheaper ships you killed in something bling.
May be try flying T1 hulls for a while solo. It hurts much less when you lose to something bigger, and if you start your fit with a pair of 'Extra Large Tech II Ancillary Gonads' in the lows, and add the rest of your fit around them, it's surprising what you can kill in a T1 Frig. "Jita 4 4 Spaceport. You will not find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious!" |

Potato ChipEater
Drenai Warriors
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Posted - 2014.01.23 15:58:00 -
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Ovv Topik wrote:It's not broken at all mate. It's set per hull type, what else could they do?
You just manually set your orbit for whatever set up your flying.
Or right click your target and choose a specific orbit based on how you read his fit.
Keep the orbit distance set at whatever you set it at per ship, not hull type.
Its understandable how they have it set, but it could be better. |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
309
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Posted - 2014.01.23 16:02:00 -
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Potato ChipEater wrote:Ovv Topik wrote:It's not broken at all mate. It's set per hull type, what else could they do?
You just manually set your orbit for whatever set up your flying.
Or right click your target and choose a specific orbit based on how you read his fit. Keep the orbit distance set at whatever you set it at per ship, not hull type. Its understandable how they have it set, but it could be better.
There was a point when it didnt remember it at all and you had to manually set everytime so it remembering by hull is kinda nice
GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
612
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Posted - 2014.01.23 16:02:00 -
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Potato ChipEater wrote:Ovv Topik wrote:It's not broken at all mate. It's set per hull type, what else could they do?
You just manually set your orbit for whatever set up your flying.
Or right click your target and choose a specific orbit based on how you read his fit. Keep the orbit distance set at whatever you set it at per ship, not hull type. Its understandable how they have it set, but it could be better. and if you make the slightest change to the fit, what does the client do then? "Jita 4 4 Spaceport. You will not find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious!" |

Potato ChipEater
Drenai Warriors
0
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Posted - 2014.01.23 16:10:00 -
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Ovv Topik wrote:Potato ChipEater wrote:Ovv Topik wrote:It's not broken at all mate. It's set per hull type, what else could they do?
You just manually set your orbit for whatever set up your flying.
Or right click your target and choose a specific orbit based on how you read his fit. Keep the orbit distance set at whatever you set it at per ship, not hull type. Its understandable how they have it set, but it could be better. and if you make the slightest change to the fit, what does the client do then?
Then you yourself should remember to change the orbit distance.
Its not a big deal to me, the Dramiels are replaced, but if they COULD do a little more with the orbit distance it would be nice. :) Which is why I put this out here. |

Ovv Topik
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
612
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Posted - 2014.01.23 16:13:00 -
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Potato ChipEater wrote:
Then you yourself should remember to change the orbit distance.
We got there in the end didnt we. Have a cookie. "Jita 4 4 Spaceport. You will not find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious!" |

Potato ChipEater
Drenai Warriors
0
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Posted - 2014.01.23 16:26:00 -
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Ovv Topik wrote:Potato ChipEater wrote:
Then you yourself should remember to change the orbit distance.
We got there in the end didnt we. Have a cookie.
.... if you change the fit... |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
309
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Posted - 2014.01.23 16:59:00 -
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lazyness loses ships whoda thought GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

Potato ChipEater
Drenai Warriors
0
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Posted - 2014.01.23 18:24:00 -
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ALUCARD 1208 wrote:lazyness loses ships whoda thought
Your so pro you've never done it before? Or your just trolling acting cool?
Its a good idea. |

Plato Forko
Black Watch Syndicate Vitoc Health Services
35
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Posted - 2014.01.23 21:10:00 -
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OCD is the only way to EvE My terribad blog where I QQ and rage about Amarr FW |

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
843
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Posted - 2014.01.23 21:20:00 -
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Stop using expensive frigates.
Expensive doesn't = better until you have a lot of pvp experience.
Merlins are good. Try those. If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |

Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch OLD MAN GANG
675
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Posted - 2014.01.23 21:32:00 -
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never use auto orbit, learn to do it manually. |

Dan Carter Murray
497
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Posted - 2014.01.24 00:51:00 -
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Potato ChipEater wrote:So today I had two Dramiels. One was kite fit, one was brawl.
I would obviously set the brawl fit to orbit at 500 or whatever. And the kite fit to lets say 15km.
I see a target and I try to kill it with my brawl Dramiel first and I die. So I say, "okay, i'll kite you to death MOFO". Then I redock quick after losing my first brawl Dramiel and get in my kite Dramiel..... then I return to the FW site and engage, hes 17km off the beacon and I get a quick distrupt on him and MWD off and think, "what an idiot". Except instead of orbiting at lets say 15km(like a kiter should want to) I orbit at 500 or so that my first brawl Dramiel was set at.....
So I die first because the guy has tens of thousands more SP then me the first time, and the second because Eve wont let me set an orbit distance for each ship individually, its per ship type I believe. Such as if I set a Comet to orbit at 500, for a brawl comet, and 15km for a kite Comet, either time I set the orbit distance on one it will reset the orbit distance on the other to the same.
I'm sure many people have died because of this problem, and I am sure many people have just learned to live with it and accept that orbit distance settings suck. Or maybe someone who can do something about this will read it and do something to fix it.
you can hold mouse down when you click a target and drag away to set the orbit i believe? http://mfi.re/?j7ldoco 50GB free space @ MediaFire.com |

Octonetwork
Deep Discovery Industries
14
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Posted - 2014.01.24 09:20:00 -
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Potato ChipEater wrote:ALUCARD 1208 wrote:lazyness loses ships whoda thought Your so pro you've never done it before? Or your just trolling acting cool? Its a good idea.
Eve forum mate, what did you expect.
It has happened to me too now i check that everytime i undock.
Maybe oneday we ll be able to set these stuff (orbit / keep at / warp to...) fit by fit. |

Ben D'Eath
Asuratech Industrial Corp Brothers Of The Dark Sun
3
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Posted - 2014.01.24 12:28:00 -
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I call this natural selection Eve style. |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
309
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Posted - 2014.01.24 12:45:00 -
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Potato ChipEater wrote:ALUCARD 1208 wrote:lazyness loses ships whoda thought Your so pro you've never done it before? Or your just trolling acting cool? Its a good idea.
Nope never done it as i know how this works soooo no trolling for once GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

Tsobai Hashimoto
Evil Monkey Asylum Evil Monkeys Asylum
189
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Posted - 2014.01.30 11:26:00 -
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Could add this to the small things list.....something like in the fitting screen you can have an area that sets your orbit range for that ship....
i mean. if it can save each ships name, it can save a range of numbers in meters from 0-100,000 as well lol |

Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch OLD MAN GANG
679
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Posted - 2014.01.30 11:48:00 -
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Tsobai Hashimoto wrote:Could add this to the small things list.....something like in the fitting screen you can have an area that sets your orbit range for that ship....
i mean. if it can save each ships name, it can save a range of numbers in meters from 0-100,000 as well lol
are you sure that your same orbit distance is fine for every fight? |

Taoist Dragon
Bastion of Mad Behaviour Caldari State Capturing
849
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Posted - 2014.01.31 04:28:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:Stop using expensive frigates.
Expensive doesn't = better until you have a lot of pvp experience.
Merlins are good. Try those.
Merlins! Bah!
All the cool kids are flying rifters now! That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
http://taoistdragon.blogspot.com.au/ |

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
877
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Posted - 2014.01.31 10:15:00 -
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Taoist Dragon wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:Stop using expensive frigates.
Expensive doesn't = better until you have a lot of pvp experience.
Merlins are good. Try those. Merlins! Bah! All the cool kids are flying rifters now!
No I don't.
 If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |

Taoist Dragon
Bastion of Mad Behaviour Caldari State Capturing
849
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Posted - 2014.01.31 11:37:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:Taoist Dragon wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:Stop using expensive frigates.
Expensive doesn't = better until you have a lot of pvp experience.
Merlins are good. Try those. Merlins! Bah! All the cool kids are flying rifters now! No I don't. 
I said COOL!
Not AWESOME! That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything.
http://taoistdragon.blogspot.com.au/ |

Zappity
Kurved Space
783
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Posted - 2014.02.01 06:19:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:never use auto orbit, learn to do it manually. In an AB frigate? Uh huh... Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |

Roel Yento
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
38
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Posted - 2014.02.01 13:37:00 -
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Personally i find the setting saved by hull type much better than by each individual ship. Would be annoying if I had to readjust settings each time i change one slot on a ship or everytime I pop and replace the ship. |

Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch OLD MAN GANG
679
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Posted - 2014.02.01 16:47:00 -
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Zappity wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:never use auto orbit, learn to do it manually. In an AB frigate? Uh huh...
especially in AB frigate, if you want to stay under tracking you may need to use smaller orbit than 500m and only way to do it is to do it manually. |

Chessur
xXFARMERS-LIBERATION-AUTHORITY-RELOADED-REDUXxX
281
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Posted - 2014.02.01 17:34:00 -
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Never fly using buttons. Everything should be done manually. If you want to be good at frigate PvP (or any PvP for that matter) double clicking in space is always your friend. |

Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
2009
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Posted - 2014.02.01 19:01:00 -
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Orbiting at 15km with a dramiel? Why do you hate dps?
Also you should always check your defaults. BYDI recruitment closed-ish |

Zappity
Kurved Space
786
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Posted - 2014.02.01 20:06:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:Zappity wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:never use auto orbit, learn to do it manually. In an AB frigate? Uh huh... especially in AB frigate, if you want to stay under tracking you may need to use smaller orbit than 500m and only way to do it is to do it manually. Can someone please show me a video of this? I can do it in cruisers but not AB frigates. If you aren't webbed then you are travelling over 1km/sec, meaning that manually setting an orbit under 500m on a 1 Hertz server is actually impossible.
Of course, I'd love to be proved wrong. I actually mean that - always looking for an edge.
If you are webbed, which happens a lot, or not using a prop mod you could conceivably do this by setting course every second. Of course, you would need the response time of a rabid hamster to manage that as well as the module control but I'm up for the challenge! Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |

Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch OLD MAN GANG
680
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Posted - 2014.02.02 00:55:00 -
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Zappity wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:Zappity wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:never use auto orbit, learn to do it manually. In an AB frigate? Uh huh... especially in AB frigate, if you want to stay under tracking you may need to use smaller orbit than 500m and only way to do it is to do it manually. Can someone please show me a video of this? I can do it in cruisers but not AB frigates. If you aren't webbed then you are travelling over 1km/sec, meaning that manually setting an orbit under 500m on a 1 Hertz server is actually impossible. Of course, I'd love to be proved wrong. I actually mean that - always looking for an edge. If you are webbed, which happens a lot, or not using a prop mod you could conceivably do this by setting course every second. Of course, you would need the response time of a rabid hamster to manage that as well as the module control but I'm up for the challenge!
who says you have to move on full speed example after heavy neuting you may not have enough cap to use ab |
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