It's not broken at all mate. It's set per hull type, what else could they do?

You just manually set your orbit for whatever set up your flying.

Or right click your target and choose a specific orbit based on how you read his fit.

Keep the orbit distance set at whatever you set it at per ship, not hull type.

Its understandable how they have it set, but it could be better.

Keep the orbit distance set at whatever you set it at per ship, not hull type.

Its understandable how they have it set, but it could be better.

and if you make the slightest change to the fit, what does the client do then?

Then you yourself should remember to change the orbit distance.

We got there in the end didnt we. Have a cookie.

lazyness loses ships whoda thought

So today I had two Dramiels. One was kite fit, one was brawl.

I would obviously set the brawl fit to orbit at 500 or whatever. And the kite fit to lets say 15km.

I see a target and I try to kill it with my brawl Dramiel first and I die. So I say, "okay, i'll kite you to death MOFO". Then I redock quick after losing my first brawl Dramiel and get in my kite Dramiel..... then I return to the FW site and engage, hes 17km off the beacon and I get a quick distrupt on him and MWD off and think, "what an idiot". Except instead of orbiting at lets say 15km(like a kiter should want to) I orbit at 500 or so that my first brawl Dramiel was set at.....

So I die first because the guy has tens of thousands more SP then me the first time, and the second because Eve wont let me set an orbit distance for each ship individually, its per ship type I believe. Such as if I set a Comet to orbit at 500, for a brawl comet, and 15km for a kite Comet, either time I set the orbit distance on one it will reset the orbit distance on the other to the same.

I'm sure many people have died because of this problem, and I am sure many people have just learned to live with it and accept that orbit distance settings suck. Or maybe someone who can do something about this will read it and do something to fix it.

Your so pro you've never done it before? Or your just trolling acting cool?

Its a good idea.

Your so pro you've never done it before? Or your just trolling acting cool?

Its a good idea.

Could add this to the small things list.....something like in the fitting screen you can have an area that sets your orbit range for that ship....

i mean. if it can save each ships name, it can save a range of numbers in meters from 0-100,000 as well lol

Stop using expensive frigates.


Expensive doesn't = better until you have a lot of pvp experience.

Merlins are good. Try those.

Merlins! Bah!

All the cool kids are flying rifters now!

No I don't.

never use auto orbit, learn to do it manually.

In an AB frigate? Uh huh...

especially in AB frigate, if you want to stay under tracking you may need to use smaller orbit than 500m and only way to do it is to do it manually.

Can someone please show me a video of this? I can do it in cruisers but not AB frigates. If you aren't webbed then you are travelling over 1km/sec, meaning that manually setting an orbit under 500m on a 1 Hertz server is actually impossible.

Of course, I'd love to be proved wrong. I actually mean that - always looking for an edge.

If you are webbed, which happens a lot, or not using a prop mod you could conceivably do this by setting course every second. Of course, you would need the response time of a rabid hamster to manage that as well as the module control but I'm up for the challenge!

Even if you could manually orbit sub-500 without prop mod (since with a prop mod is pointless as Garviel points out) it is a monumental waste of effort. You can approach the target until you are below 500 and then 'Orbit at current distance'. Much less RSI that way.

Well i don't know about others but i do know that me and the rest of BYDI don't do a lot of manual piloting in frig brawls (Of course we do some but its probably 70/30) and we are generally considered rather good at frigates?

If it works for you go for it, i just think its wasted effort.

Well, serious question then: I know that hitting "orbit" from, say, 20 km away is a bad thing as this will cause your frig to directly fly towards the target until orbiting range is reached, giving him nice shots at you, so manually approaching in a spiral or sew-saw manner is the way to go. But at which point do you go into automatic "orbit".

Advanced question: How do you do this (manual approach then automatic orbit) with a MWD on without overshooting for 10+km (and presenting an even better target due to sig bloom).