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Zappity
Kurved Space
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Posted - 2014.02.02 01:27:00 -
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So we're not talking about at AB frigate any more, just a frigate? In a frigate vs cruiser scenario, which medium weapon system does a frigate have to stay under 500m on? Even Heavy Ions are out tracked at 1km with a slow frigate orbiting.
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
2009
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Posted - 2014.02.02 01:34:00 -
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You can't get a sub 500 orbit in a ab frigate... unless you count doing so at 30% speed and that kidna voids the point.
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Zappity
Kurved Space
786
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Posted - 2014.02.02 04:25:00 -
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Even if you could manually orbit sub-500 without prop mod (since with a prop mod is pointless as Garviel points out) it is a monumental waste of effort. You can approach the target until you are below 500 and then 'Orbit at current distance'. Much less RSI that way.
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Joan Greywind
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
314
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Posted - 2014.02.02 05:39:00 -
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Oh thank god somebody finally mentioned this, I thought I was the only one thinking about this. CCP's code should automatically figure what kind of ship I am flying because of mods obviously, what is this 2008? And then they should automatically set the perfect orbit for me, all I want to do is click activate on gate and then my ship should fly itself, I mean if they want to be realistic in the future the ships have powerful ai right? How scruby would you have to be to manually input the orbit distance so you ship can automatically orbit the target? Jeez no
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Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
OLD MAN GANG
680
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Posted - 2014.02.02 07:46:00 -
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Zappity wrote:Even if you could manually orbit sub-500 without prop mod (since with a prop mod is pointless as Garviel points out) it is a monumental waste of effort. You can approach the target until you are below 500 and then 'Orbit at current distance'. Much less RSI that way.
problem with auto orbit is that when you try to adjust it your ship does random thingies, as almost stopping and chancing direction, when you fly manually you do know where it will go. |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
2009
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Posted - 2014.02.02 11:13:00 -
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Well i don't know about others but i do know that me and the rest of BYDI don't do a lot of manual piloting in frig brawls (Of course we do some but its probably 70/30) and we are generally considered rather good at frigates?
If it works for you go for it, i just think its wasted effort.
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Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
772
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Posted - 2014.02.02 16:20:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:Well i don't know about others but i do know that me and the rest of BYDI don't do a lot of manual piloting in frig brawls (Of course we do some but its probably 70/30) and we are generally considered rather good at frigates?
If it works for you go for it, i just think its wasted effort.
Well, serious question then: I know that hitting "orbit" from, say, 20 km away is a bad thing as this will cause your frig to directly fly towards the target until orbiting range is reached, giving him nice shots at you, so manually approaching in a spiral or sew-saw manner is the way to go. But at which point do you go into automatic "orbit".
Advanced question: How do you do this (manual approach then automatic orbit) with a MWD on without overshooting for 10+km (and presenting an even better target due to sig bloom).
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
2010
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Posted - 2014.02.02 19:35:00 -
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Nerath Naaris wrote:Garviel Tarrant wrote:Well i don't know about others but i do know that me and the rest of BYDI don't do a lot of manual piloting in frig brawls (Of course we do some but its probably 70/30) and we are generally considered rather good at frigates?
If it works for you go for it, i just think its wasted effort. Well, serious question then: I know that hitting "orbit" from, say, 20 km away is a bad thing as this will cause your frig to directly fly towards the target until orbiting range is reached, giving him nice shots at you, so manually approaching in a spiral or sew-saw manner is the way to go. But at which point do you go into automatic "orbit". Advanced question: How do you do this (manual approach then automatic orbit) with a MWD on without overshooting for 10+km (and presenting an even better target due to sig bloom).
Uhm, if we are speaking with MWD's i generally approach manually and then shift-space to stop when i am at the appropriate distance (which is governed by how fast you are moving in relation to your target). Assuming i didn't **** up and got a scram i then turn my mwd off and get to brawling.
Orbit, keep at range and manual piloting all have their place. I use keep at range a LOT, because it is a very useful tool in a game where you can quite easily get confused about directions.
Of course if you are kiting you might need to manual pilot a bit more, but generally you can also get a lot done with alternating between keeping at range and orbiting (Makes you a bit harder to slingshot) But i can't really give a lot of tips on kiting because i don't find it enjoyable thus don't really do it often (I have a really hard time accepting the fact that my targets will be constantly slipping out of my point range and i pretty much have to count on them being bad to win)
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God's Apples
Aunenen Civil Liberties Union
312
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Posted - 2014.02.08 05:09:00 -
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With the exception of 10mn frigs, you don't really need to fly manually except in extreme circumstances. |
Aralieus
The Inf1dels
Insidious Empire
202
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Posted - 2014.02.10 07:50:00 -
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Not trying to troll but are ppl really this lazy? Would you like CCP to turn on your guns and activate your tank as well?
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