I was the one trolling. No one was trolling me.
In fact, it appears you were trolled by my post as you felt obligated to reply in an attack.
As we know, if the one to get trolled attacks the troll, then they took it personally.

Therefore, according to yourself, you look childish.

Thank you, and good day.

Hey you never did get around to explaining why CCP would have to delay ship skins if they didn't put them in the microtransaction superstore.

Will there be an extra way to make skins, through player manufacturing?
Player designed, or blueprints?
What do you need to purchase or manufacture a skin?
Will you buy skinned ships, or 'paint cans' which you use on ships?
Will skinned ships, or 'paint cans' be on the market? They should, given that it'd be player driven.
Where's the one-stop place for players to conveniently browse through available skins?
How can the base prices of skins easily be regulated as a whole, from the one store database?
Will skinned ships even support the LP store right now, given inventory IDs and whatnot which will be the same as unskinned, or differently skinned counterparts?
Which LP store will sell the more 'generic' skins, with no particular faction/corporation theme?
When custom corp logos on ships become available, will LP stores inexplicably sell those too? Or will it be on yet another store, leaving the ship customisation interface split?
What will be most profitable for CCP?
How will the vanity items of ship skins affect the prices of non-vanity items such as CNRs and other LP items? Is this a good thing?
If a player wants to skin their Rokh with a Mordus skin, will they need to be required to fly to a Mordus LP store? How many extra LP stores do we need to introduce?
Would it be fitting for players to buy pirate skins from faction LP stores? Where does the plot fit?
How can skinning a ship be most convenient for a player?
Will LP stores and the market need to be updated with a specialised skin-browsing interface, so players can see more than tiny icons and get a preview of the skin quickly and easily? How will the plethora of skins be sorted along with all of the other items? When will the scroll bar get too painful to scroll through?
Will we be able to reskin ships? Will this mean that LP stores need every single combination of a skin-exchange listed? Or do all ships need a new identifier value?

Don't get me wrong: the skins *will* be in the NeX but you trying to make that into a good thing is p funny.

Let me quote myself in case you don't get the whole PLEX cycle.

So you don't have any real evidence? Just stuff you made up?

That's disappointing.

I pay for all NeX items with ISK, as can you.
I will pay for Tier 3 BC with ISK, as will you.

If I don't have the ISK for either one I can pay cash instead, as can you.

I am not being forced to pay double if I wish to aquire either one unless I wish to.

Sorry you are having difficulty understanding this fundamental point, but there it is.

This thread consists entirely of speculation and opinions.
All anti-NeX-skin opinions can be boiled down to 'It's not perfectly sandbox so it fails'. How's that any better?
In fact, it's worse.
Many things in EVE aren't perfectly sandbox, and NeX skins could be just another.

Because it allows a common marketing system with DUST.

I did.


And there you have it. With the NeX store, many of those questions don't need to be asked, answered or developed around.

Perhaps you'd like to take a shot at answering the core question - What is NeX for?

And there you have it. With the NeX store, many of those questions don't need to be asked, answered or developed around.

EDIT: Can you show me some respect? I'm giving it to you.

No. The exact same questions have to be asked regardless.

If a player wants to skin their Rokh with a Mordus skin, will they need to be required to fly to a Mordus LP store? How many extra LP stores do we need to introduce?

As long as you're advocating for the NeX

Swing and a miss. That's just the way you want to see it.

NeX pros and cons ...

As long as you're advocating for the NeX I doubt you'll get much respect. Maybe you missed all the fun over the summer but the vast majority of Eve players find the microtransaction store in a subscription based game to be loathsome.

And, your analysis is based on a critical assumption that NeX will only be used to push a small amount of vanity Items into the EVE sandbox. Can we really trust CCP to put such constraints on their actions now that they have deployed the infrastructure to do so much more?

NeX is to:
-Earn more cash for CCP. Cash which they spend on EVE.

-Act as a PLEX sink

-Act as a clothing store

-Contain vanity items only

-Safely and quickly introduce content which does not radically affect EVE

Even these ones?
GÇ£If a player wants to skin their Rokh with a Mordus skin, will they need to be required to fly to a Mordus LP store? How many extra LP stores do we need to introduce?GÇ¥

NeX is to:
-Earn more cash for CCP. Cash which they spend on EVE.
-Act as a PLEX sink
-Act as a clothing store
-Contain vanity items only
-Safely and quickly introduce content which does not radically affect EVE

Advantages of ship skins on NeX
-Fast release. We get skins ASAP.
-Minimal impact on EVE
-One-stop, unified place for skin purchase
-More PLEX demand, more profit, more EVE

So far so good, right?

I won't be angry. Provided said skins are:

a) permanent (like the apparel seems to be)

Here we have it ladies and gentlemen. Why (some) people want ship skins through the NeX store is that basically they don't like the idea their $ bought stuff can be blown up.

Eh, it goes back to "b". If it's cheap 1k - 2k then I don't mind if it's destructible. If it's say valued at $1000 (lolpantsjoke) then no, it should not be destructible.

On the positive it forces CCP to come up with new skins instead of making us 4 skins and sitting back raking in the cash.

Think about it. Would CCP continue to develop content (in any form) for EVE if they knew all the current subs would keep paying. Forego the fact they of course want to GET new subs.

The answer is 'no', they would not. Why invest unnecessary funds into something if you know you'll get the same return.

I would also add. It'd be nice if they didn't add skins per say to to NEX but instead a skill book set (recipe books) that teach players how to make various dyes.

[quote=Dyner][quote=Jade Constantine][quote=Dyner]

You happy with that?

I actually like the NEX, because the alternative(s) is (are):

a) Raise Sub fee
b) Raise Player population
c) both

You have forgotten "alternative" option D.

d) stop wasting subs money that is completely sufficient to run and develop eve plus 1 other major project on 2 other projects. (By scaling down WOD CCP have saved more money than NeX would ever raise for this game).

protip ... CCP have chosen option D.

But the broader point is that NeX does NOTHING whatsoever to increase revenue over and above PLEX sales. If Eve has attractive expensive player manufactured content that people want and need isk to buy then some will get that isk by buying and coverting PLEX and this will increase revenue for CCP without taking players out of the loop in player industry.

Hence PLEX is a good way for CCP to raise more money.

NEX is a bad way.