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Onel Whitaker
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Posted - 2006.03.29 16:18:00 -
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If anyone of us had a Cerberus BPO we would all be selling them for the same prices, so I think it's unfair to ***** about the people that sell, and wtf! why should CCP step in to this case? This is our own f**k up, they keep setting prices higher and we keep buying. Only way to get the prices down is by stop buying them for that price that they are on now.
- Onel Hell will seem like heaven when I am done with you.
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Tommy TenKreds
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Posted - 2006.03.29 17:15:00 -
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HAC prices high?
Bahahaha..... 
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Xodius Raldari
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Posted - 2006.03.29 17:48:00 -
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Blame the mission runners that sit comfortably in safe space NOT losing them and making loads of ISK. I have yet to find someone who believes these are a good PVP platform.
Supply and demand. Clearly the demand is low, so why not jack the prices. I'd probably do it myself if I held a Cerb BPO.
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Shaelin Corpius
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Posted - 2006.03.29 18:20:00 -
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Prices are as high as they are because there is enough people in the game who will pay it and keep paying it.
If everyone boycotted HACs for a month or two, watch as them prices drop.
Besides, I used to buy my Ishtars at 65m, Deimos at 70m. So people will sell them at that price and still make a ton of profit.
I won't be buying anymore HACs untill the new research agent model comes into play.
LOL I just buy command ships as they are twice the bang for the buck against a HAC.
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Shaelin Corpius
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Posted - 2006.03.29 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Xodius Raldari Blame the mission runners that sit comfortably in safe space NOT losing them and making loads of ISK. I have yet to find someone who believes these are a good PVP platform.
Supply and demand. Clearly the demand is low, so why not jack the prices. I'd probably do it myself if I held a Cerb BPO.
U are kidding right?
Demand is too high, thats why the prices skyrocket. Its basic economy, i.e. Oil, since demand is way up we pay a **** ton more for the stuff, if we all boycotted oil, watch the sellers go beserk and war each other over selling at rock bottom prices. Thats why people pay whatever they can for them. And as far as PvP platforms, they are superb ships my friend.
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Razer Viper
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Posted - 2006.03.29 19:03:00 -
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Edited by: Razer Viper on 29/03/2006 19:03:26 Well if we are spacific, everyone wna cerb, its lil pwn machine. Eve with 120k subscribers, needs more hac prints, damand for them is bigger, its missile bot = omg easy. And new players normaly rush to HAC's . Still, there are ppl that will pay 200mil for a 40mil production worth ship, is that OK? i don't think so, theres better way do to isk sink. -------------------- N.A.G.A ShopKeeper N.A.G.A Webshop |

dazedandconfused
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Posted - 2006.03.29 19:51:00 -
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CCP will not mess with the prices. Just buy it, or don't but it.
In general, not to point any fingers, I find that whining doesn't usually help. 
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Wattish
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Posted - 2006.03.29 19:53:00 -
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Damn game is full of communists i swear.
Well you can have your gulag worker crewed HACs for all i care. Just don't kick up a fuss when your little pinko ideas screw up the free market on eve, which by the way is one of the more interesting game features.
Fluorine in the drinking water, smurfs... and now this. god damn you communism, god damn you......
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MILL17331H 2190TEP
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Posted - 2006.03.29 20:09:00 -
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Well if the 'hack' prices, shouldn't they be lower?
bad j/k 
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.03.29 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire It's a free market. 
Free market implies no artificial supply limitations.
Could you please stop lowering the IQ of the thread with silly little statements that are patently incorrect?
It's not a free market.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.03.29 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire It's a free market. 
Free market implies no artificial supply limitations.
Could you please stop lowering the IQ of the thread with silly little statements that are patently incorrect?
It's not a free market.
I didnt say, there isnt any problem with HACs at the moment. I was saying, given the current circumstances, it is a free market. Not happy, dont buy it because someone else will buy them.
Sorry, if I have irritated you in the sensitive spot.  ----------------
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Frankinator
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Posted - 2006.03.29 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: The Ratfink Your prayers have been answered!!
The Enslaver is taking orders now for CHEAP Caldari Hacs - 70 mil / Cap Rechar II BPC's for 2 mil
Because he is busy building all the time and no time to sell simply EVE-MAIL OR CONVO (THE ENSLAVER)
For some reason I still find this funny, everytime I see this post pop up :>
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.03.29 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire It's a free market. 
Free market implies no artificial supply limitations.
Could you please stop lowering the IQ of the thread with silly little statements that are patently incorrect?
It's not a free market.
I didnt say, there isnt any problem with HACs at the moment. I was saying, given the current circumstances, it is a free market. Not happy, dont buy it because someone else will buy them.
Sorry, if I have irritated you in the sensitive spot. 
Well its not a free market.
Stop talking rubbish
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.03.29 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Well its not a free market.
Stop talking rubbish
Boo.  ----------------
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.03.29 20:48:00 -
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Edited by: Nikolai Nuvolari on 29/03/2006 20:48:13 We need a section purely devoted to topics that have been brought up 3498240872309520 times, with one thread for each of them. If you start a topic about it ANYWHERE else, it gets locked with a link to the appropriate thread. -------- Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
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franny
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Posted - 2006.03.29 21:24:00 -
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(required for all HAC's cost to much posts) ----------- /wtb Eris in a cage  Sorry, she's not for sale. You can get Imaran for free though - Wrangler can I at least get someone decent? Sure, I'll let you know when I find one - Wrangler |

HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.03.29 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire It's a free market. 
Free market implies no artificial supply limitations.
Could you please stop lowering the IQ of the thread with silly little statements that are patently incorrect?
It's not a free market.
Isn't it?
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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Xodius Raldari
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Posted - 2006.03.29 21:40:00 -
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Edited by: Xodius Raldari on 29/03/2006 21:44:43
Originally by: Shaelin Corpius U are kidding right?
Nope .. Are you? 
Quote: Demand is too high, thats why the prices skyrocket. Its basic economy, i.e. Oil, since demand is way up we pay a **** ton more for the stuff, if we all boycotted oil, watch the sellers go beserk and war each other over selling at rock bottom prices. Thats why people pay whatever they can for them.
In my experience in talking to different T2 builders .. Eve doesn't play off what we in the real world like to consider "basic economics" as much as you would like to believe. I just don't believe the Cerbs are moving as well as you would like to make them out. Especially compared to the Zealots or Deimos.
Quote: And as far as PvP platforms, they are superb ships my friend.
Oh?? Is this why I encounter them ALL THE TIME in low sec? 6 months all over place in lawless eve space and they are a definite rarity (unless of course you are talking blob wars - Something of which I refuse to partake in). Go take a peek around the mission runner areas. I'm willing to bet you'll find more there than anywhere in 0.0.
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Gimmie HACs
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Posted - 2006.03.29 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire It's a free market. 
Free market implies no artificial supply limitations.
Could you please stop lowering the IQ of the thread with silly little statements that are patently incorrect?
It's not a free market.
Isn't it?
last time I checked, you can't patent something you won in a lottery
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0bsession
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Posted - 2006.03.29 23:06:00 -
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First off... dont buy.
Second... price has nothing to do with demand... the supply is the problem, and its due to the producers purposely limiting the supply. Ask those keen alliances that refuse to sell on market and make tons of Cerbs fro 40mil to their own peeps.
Yes, its prolly called smart business... but it stinks, and until CCP drops more HACs bpos, just dont buy the damn ship.
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J Dubbs
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Posted - 2006.03.29 23:24:00 -
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Could CCCP also drop more gisii A-type SB's too i mean 80m rediculas! in fact why not just seed everything on the market for 1isk that way we can all have HAC's. 
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Ozzie Asrail
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Posted - 2006.03.29 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: franny
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!!! That horse has red devil horns! No wonder these HAC topics wont die when people keep beating a deamon horse 
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Lisento Slaven
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Posted - 2006.03.29 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: 0bsession First off... dont buy.
Second... price has nothing to do with demand... the supply is the problem, and its due to the producers purposely limiting the supply.
I just wanted to say that price and demand...neither of them are problems and both contribute to the situation in their own funky way =P
Why isn't everyone in this thread just talking in the Dear CCP thread...=P
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Hamatitio
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Posted - 2006.03.29 23:38:00 -
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HAC's are godly, whether you want to admit it or not.
Recon ships are cool too.
And simply telling someone to not buy them wont have ANY impact on the hac prices, As there is always rich fools out there ready to buy it at any ridiculous price. There is too much isk in EVE. ---
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Kyozoku
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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:09:00 -
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You can say stop buying and the prices fall but at the end of the day not enough people would stop buying for it to make a difference. People will keep buying them no matter how high the price goes.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: NeoOhm Why are the Caldari HAC prices so high, is there some way we can balance the prices?
What can I say to this...
Oh, I know!
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran  |

Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord Lets try pushing and reselling at 300m at that price surley some factional cruisers and battleships start to look cheap
Rarely will someone waste their isk on a faction cruiser when the t1 variant with the extra 50+mil spent on mods will be better.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran  |

Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Isn't it?
Oh wow!!!
The definition of a patent proves it is indeed a free market.
Not.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.03.30 00:48:00 -
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"Free market implies no artificial supply limitations."
No, it implies no external factors which can influence the price, purchasing practices and such, but there's nothing really about it that implies unlimited supply nor lack of entrance barriers...
"The law of supply and demand predominates in the idealized free market, influencing prices toward an equilibrium that balances the demands for the products against the supplies."
note, "against the supplies". If there's only a single diamond in the whole world, you can still have free market revolving around it and determining its price. There's such thing as "vertical supply curve", and this is pretty much what happens in EVE when it comes to tech.2 ships...
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.03.30 01:01:00 -
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the term "a free market" may refer to the particular market as being free of restrictions ________________________________________________
From Wiki too^^
Look ma, I found a quote in there to suit me.
It's not free of restrictions. Supply is restricted. If hac's were in RL a factory would be banging them out 24/7. If it could not keep up with demand more factories would open.
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