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        |  Sir JoJo
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 15:42:00 -
          [121] 
 
  Originally by: Blue Adept 
  Originally by: Sir JoJo well both funny and lame i thought better of velios and treeberd...
 
 
 let see what they can dig out so we can have both sides story.
 
 thats if this thread gonna live that long
 
 
 velios has a history of crap like this. In the Greatwildands about 6+ months ago, he lead an operation that used a POS bug that allowed you to lock structures inside an online tower and blow them up without taking any damage from the POS or having to shoot the shields. It was a short lived bug after the new 0.0 entrances which moved the location of planets (and messed up towers in some systems near the new 0.0 entrances)
 
 Ask any long time member in [ALTZ] or VIRII about it. He hit up 3-4 POS in one night using that bug.
 
 Lame CEO with very little honor if he thinks he can get away with it. I'll long remember his desparete actions in GW as will many others.
 
 -Blue Adept
 Damage Unlimited Inc, CEO.
 Forsaken Empire.
 
 
 
 
 Well ive been in both ALTZ and VIRII so i would now who they are.. but i havent been in either corp when velios has done things like that and about the pos i have absolut no idea.
 
 but i agree it was a pretty phatetic way to act. but sometimes u just dont know what to do whit a carebear and u let u frustatrations out.
 
 
 Peace out my guees is both nightmare and M.corp learned from this.
 
 Bringing pain to a place near you
 
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        |  Bazman
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 15:42:00 -
          [122] 
 I love this thread, people need to get over themselves
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 Hi TomB! All out Do or Die Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks.
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        |  Velios
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 15:44:00 -
          [123] 
 Oh I've learned a lot from this for sure, I doubt he has though.
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        |  Well wicked
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 15:45:00 -
          [124] 
 
  Originally by: Velios lol @ all the angry people, is this the only way you can take a shot at us? on the forums?
 
 
 
 Hey,
 
 Are you just playing dumb or what?I think it's very clear there are alot of opinions of what took place.Deal with them,good or bad it's your actions.Imo you were lame and got called on it.
  
 WW
 
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        |  Sir JoJo
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 15:45:00 -
          [125] 
 
  Originally by: Velios Oh I've learned a lot from this for sure, I doubt he has though.
 
 
 well thats 50% not bad
   
 Bringing pain to a place near you
 
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        |  Raid
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 15:47:00 -
          [126] 
 
  Originally by: Velios My day is pretty hectic mate, I don't have time to go chasing people about when I can get them to come to me. In my view, (and it is the view held by the majority) he deserved a spanking and got it. Like I said earlier, I now regret giving him back the mods as he clearly hasn't learned a damn thing.
 
 
 Whats popular isnt always right and yadda yadda you know how that goes.. You cant justify this by saying you didnt have time or thats what most people think is right... M.Corp should have been better than that.. Its low, any way you look at it..
 
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        |  Velios
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 15:48:00 -
          [127] 
 Your opinion doesn't matter mate, you aren't in a corp.
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        |  Fred0
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 15:51:00 -
          [128] 
 Edited by: Fred0 on 29/03/2006 15:51:40
 I think Velios did the right thing. Especially in hindsight. Looks like that nightmare dude is a right whiny ***** in my eyes.
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        |  KIATolon
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 15:53:00 -
          [129] 
 
  Originally by: Velios Edited by: Velios on 29/03/2006 15:40:40
 No, I don't kick people on the first offence. I am tolerant and do my best to motivate people to take an interest in the corp and the activities that happen there.
 
 After weeks of evasion and then a foolish alliance post stating his wishes to join ATUK just so he can hunt a different variety of NPC I had had enough.
 
 And promptly killed him.
 
 Aren't I the meanie!
 
 
 Fair enough.
 
 And your corps estimation has gone on with some, and down with others because of it.
 
 I can see why you did what you did however I disagreed with the way you did it. What bothered me more was the way you started insulting and insinuating because I disagreed.
 
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        |  Antoinette Civari
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 15:53:00 -
          [130] 
 
  Originally by: Velios Edited by: Velios on 29/03/2006 15:40:40
 No, I don't kick people on the first offence. I am tolerant and do my best to motivate people to take an interest in the corp and the activities that happen there.
 
 After weeks of evasion and then a foolish alliance post stating his wishes to join ATUK just so he can hunt a different variety of NPC I had had enough.
 
 And promptly killed him.
 
 Aren't I the meanie!
 
 
 I understand your reasoning and, to a certain extent, he definitely deserved it (15 kills, come on ,p) - I just think this incident could have been easily avoided with a more strict member-management.
 
 From what I have seen in my time in eve, people who aren't actively supporting the corp without beeing yelled at are very unlikely change that behaviour in the future. That means, if you have someone recruited who does not contribute to corp operations or activities on his own free will, kick him as long as there are no hard feelings involved - it's usually not worth the hassle keeping them.
 
 
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        |  cpskatan
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 15:57:00 -
          [131] 
 hmm thats some low ass **** they be doing. I for one thot that M.corp was grownups and stuff well well one can be wrong.
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        |  Velios
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 15:57:00 -
          [132] 
 Sorry mate, I didn't mean it to sound like an insult, but being a CEO I would definitely stay out of BOS affairs if they surfaced on the forum whether my opinion disagreed with them or not.
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        |  Raid
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 15:58:00 -
          [133] 
 
  Originally by: KIATolon 
  Originally by: Velios Edited by: Velios on 29/03/2006 15:40:40
 No, I don't kick people on the first offence. I am tolerant and do my best to motivate people to take an interest in the corp and the activities that happen there.
 
 After weeks of evasion and then a foolish alliance post stating his wishes to join ATUK just so he can hunt a different variety of NPC I had had enough.
 
 And promptly killed him.
 
 Aren't I the meanie!
 
 
 Fair enough.
 
 And your corps estimation has gone on with some, and down with others because of it.
 
 I can see why you did what you did however I disagreed with the way you did it. What bothered me more was the way you started insulting and insinuating because I disagreed.
 
 
 QFT... couldnt have said it any better or clearer.
 
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        |  Velios
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 16:01:00 -
          [134] 
 Oh be quiet Raid, no one cares what you think mate. Stop trying to cause divisions. Give Nightmare a home in your corp if you have such a strong opinion. Then we get to shoot both your insignificant butts at the same time.
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        |  Wizie
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 16:02:00 -
          [135] 
 Lame move IMO, and yes I flew with Velios and hes a level headed guy. But this was silly.
 
 Don't like the guy? Kick him from corp. Sure he didn't contribute as much as YOU might have liked, then again, he sure as hell didn't steal anything from you.
 
 Killing his faction BS... seems it was done out of frustration and spite. Which is lame... as this is a game.
 
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        |  Drilla
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 16:03:00 -
          [136] 
 Edited by: Drilla on 29/03/2006 16:06:32
 
  Originally by: KIATolon 
  Originally by: Velios Edited by: Velios on 29/03/2006 15:40:40
 No, I don't kick people on the first offence. I am tolerant and do my best to motivate people to take an interest in the corp and the activities that happen there.
 
 After weeks of evasion and then a foolish alliance post stating his wishes to join ATUK just so he can hunt a different variety of NPC I had had enough.
 
 And promptly killed him.
 
 Aren't I the meanie!
 
 
 Fair enough.
 
 And your corps estimation has gone on with some, and down with others because of it.
 
 I can see why you did what you did however I disagreed with the way you did it. What bothered me more was the way you started insulting and insinuating because I disagreed.
 
 
 I'm deeply disappointed in your replies SUAS. Knowing BOS and the way Skull used to run it he'd have done the same and in this situation backed Velios a 100%.
 
 I guess as you said a thread like this corps estimation has gone op with some, and down with other. Yours is the latter for me personally as I used to hold BOS in the highest regard.
 
 Fact is - Nightmare didnt do _anything_ for the alliance, he only used the membership to further his own goals - goals that wasnt even resemling the corp or the alliance's goals. In my eyes his way of exploiting M. Corp was two fold - first he used it to further his wallet and have access to southeren NPCs/Missions (first exploit), then he decided that he needed to balance out this Guiristas standings and chose to use his M. Corp name to apply for ATUK (second exploit).
 
 What it all boils down to was that he didnt care to help a corp mate in local until Domination loot was mentioned - then he flew out to help. That it was a trap just goes to show him a lesson. A lesson he needed to learn, both in game and apparently in RL too.
 
 I fully endorse Velios' actions and take note - I will do the same if this happens in Shinra!
 
 P.S. VIRII/Foundation fanbois - let it go, it's pathetic to keep this year old grudge. get over yourself.
 
 
 Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost!
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        |  MolRob
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 16:08:00 -
          [137] 
 When im on a fleet op witch isnt funny at all because of lag, or hostiles sitting at a POS (or we
  :) Im bored. Nothing happening and than the wallet blinks. "Carebear got bounty prize for killing nber NPC #1"
 He isnt on ventrilo or ts or whatever, (he is hideing) but he is on the map under corp members in space in a form of a nice green dot in the best npcer system.
 And this almost everytime there is something going on.
 The wallet blinks everytime constantly...
 
 I would shoot, pod, loot, expel. tbh
 
 
 
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        |  NightmareX
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 16:10:00 -
          [138] 
 Edited by: NightmareX on 29/03/2006 16:10:55
 As i sayed in the topic on the LV forum, the Guristas / NPC thing was the last thing i want to do in ATUK
 
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        |  jellybird
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 16:11:00 -
          [139] 
 
  Originally by: Velios Edited by: Velios on 29/03/2006 15:40:40
 No, I don't kick people on the first offence. I am tolerant and do my best to motivate people to take an interest in the corp and the activities that happen there.
 
 After weeks of evasion and then a foolish alliance post stating his wishes to join ATUK just so he can hunt a different variety of NPC I had had enough.
 
 And promptly killed him.
 
 Aren't I the meanie!
 
 
 Not a meanie, just a backstabbing c**k!
 
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        |  Darcuese
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 16:12:00 -
          [140] 
 Edited by: Darcuese on 29/03/2006 16:12:10
 
  Originally by: jellybird 
  Originally by: Velios Edited by: Velios on 29/03/2006 15:40:40
 No, I don't kick people on the first offence. I am tolerant and do my best to motivate people to take an interest in the corp and the activities that happen there.
 
 After weeks of evasion and then a foolish alliance post stating his wishes to join ATUK just so he can hunt a different variety of NPC I had had enough.
 
 And promptly killed him.
 
 Aren't I the meanie!
 
 
 
 Not a meanie, just a backstabbing c**k!
 
 
 lol jelly
 
 DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??
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        |  DeadDuck
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 16:12:00 -
          [141] 
 
  Originally by: Drilla Edited by: Drilla on 29/03/2006 16:06:32
 
  Originally by: KIATolon 
  Originally by: Velios Edited by: Velios on 29/03/2006 15:40:40
 What it all boils down to was that he didnt care to help a corp mate in local until Domination loot was mentioned .
 
 
 
 
  Man that is S A D  
 I really hope that the only thing that you would acomplish with this statement Nightmare is that you are now a well known character and people will jusT DONT LET YOU IN THEIR CORPS ... go to empire and stay there
  
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        |  NightmareX
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 16:19:00 -
          [142] 
 
  Originally by: DeadDuck 
  Originally by: Drilla Edited by: Drilla on 29/03/2006 16:06:32
 
  Originally by: KIATolon 
  Originally by: Velios Edited by: Velios on 29/03/2006 15:40:40
 What it all boils down to was that he didnt care to help a corp mate in local until Domination loot was mentioned .
 
 
 
 
  Man that is S A D  
 I really hope that the only thing that you would acomplish with this statement Nightmare is that you are now a well known character and people will jusT DONT LET YOU IN THEIR CORPS ... go to empire and stay there
  
 
 About that Velios is saying on the quote is not true, since i was afk and i was in a phone for 45 min, and then i come back and saw them asked for help about that Domi spawn.
 
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        |  NAFnist
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 16:20:00 -
          [143] 
 If treebeard assisted in killing you, Im sure you deserved it
 
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        |  Perpello
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 16:20:00 -
          [144] 
 
  Originally by: NightmareX As i sayed in the topic on the LV forum, the Guristas / NPC thing was the last thing i want to do in ATUK
 
 It was actually the second reason you gave for joining ATUK. The first reason was because you had friends in ATUK. No doubt you believed that the first reason for joining ATUK would grant you easy passage to your second reason for joining ATUK. You didn't have a third or further numbered reason for joining ATUK.
 
 Well second = last, that's true.
  
 
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        |  Vegas
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 16:22:00 -
          [145] 
 Lame as F**k!
 
 Why not just kick him? Oh and if he's such a carebear why 3 on the killmail?
 
 CEO to pu*sy to take the matter into his own hands?
 
 The maturity of this makes me laugh
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 Rage of Angels Killboard
 
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        |  Velios
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 16:25:00 -
          [146] 
 Well that's your 5 isk worth, do you feel better now? Do you feel better knowing that people have read your words of wisdom and are giving them some serious thought?
 
 Shut up mate, you are nothing but a forum warrior.
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        |  Yazoul Samaiel
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 16:26:00 -
          [147] 
 PPL who dont contribute to their corps are bad , Corps who dont make plans for memebrs to contribute or are abel to control themm are worse . I hate ppl who carebear while their alliacne or corp is under attack , i have died many tiems just to rush into action to defend my alliance at several occasions that i died before even seening a fight so i know how it feels to see or listen to ppl carebearign while ur doing that . Yet 2 wrongs dont make it right , the dude was a slacker and Vleios back stabbed him just to get even or revenage so both acts are completely lame and the right thing was to kick the dude out of corp instead of spendign weeks of evasion as u say u did , simply coz he doenst want to play the M corp way then he is out , but trapping ur own corp m8 thats low imo very low indeed.
 "What ever that doesnt Kill me just makes me stronger"
 
 
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        |  Velios
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 16:28:00 -
          [148] 
 Why does BOS have so much to say about this?
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        |  Well wicked
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 16:28:00 -
          [149] 
 Hey,
 
 So your corp has no corp tax?.Because if this guy was killing massive amounts of npc's then your getting a nice cut of that isk in taxes.
 
 So yes he did something for your corp.So please don't act like he didn't.Lame move, but keep on trying to make it ok.
 
 
 WW
 P.S. 10% tax rate.... PWNED
  
 
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        |  anister
 
 
       | Posted - 2006.03.29 16:33:00 -
          [150] 
 
  Originally by: Velios Why does BOS have so much to say about this?
 
 
 We and M. go quite far back, any thread header with your name is bound to attract our attention
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