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Ithildin	Posted - 2006.03.31 15:04:00 - [91] According to the devs they're gonna make tier three BShips unique as "there's room for more unique battleships". Or whatever HH/TomB wrote waaay back. My own fear from looking at the drafts is that they intend to make fleet-specialized ships (this means turrets galore). However, the devs have gotten some arguments against the drafts, which they've apparently read and considered, that they rival or surpas faction ships in power - something the devs have stated they wish not to happen. As to the relevance in this thred - I doubt that they will make a Typhoon Mark II, nor a BFTempest. (Oh, and the tier 3 is most likely to be named Hurricane, not Thor ) Do not ask me what I think/hope they'll make for the Amarr or Minmatar, however, since those two races are hardest to come up with unique - although the recent trend seem to be that Minmatar get ships that grow on you like a fungus and the Amarr ones will simply dance in and land on the top spot. (Poor, poor, Caldari who seem to have taken the wrong end of the stick lately... hehehe) What is "missing" when you look at the other ship classes for Amarr is a drone carrier (since they've already done the setups "laser boat with good tank" as well as "tank boat with good lasers") and that's strictly Gallente territory (omg! people are whining about a tier 1 drone boat!). For Minmatar what's missing is a target painter ship, and that... let's just say that CCP would be getting quite a few blood-smeared Khumaaks (sp?) in their mails. Originally by: KilROCK Originally by: Arkanor Gallente missileboat might be cool. Pod yourself till you got no skills.[
Eximius Josari	Posted - 2006.03.31 18:30:00 - [92] If CCP changes the Tempest (or even the Typhoon) into being a stronger tank. The Tier 3 Min BS could get away with being a better offensive gunship. IF something like this happened: Typhoon 8/5/6 Tempest 8/6/5 New BS* 8/6/6 I think that would be just fine. Still not perfect tanks for any style, but can do all of them pretty well. But this is the annoying part: Typhoon 4 guns/4 launchers Tempest 6 guns/4 launchers New BS* 8 guns/4 launchers? Obviously that makes the new BS the most dmging as a pure gunship. But what if like someone said it only had the Dmg Bonus and not the RoF bonus. It still might out DPS the Tempest unless the Tempest is using missiles. If the new BS has a velocity bonus...man it that ship will be hard not to want to fly. I looove fast ships. I still think my original post is a better idea, except for the people who just want a cheaper and probably stronger Machariel. ~From the creator of ActiveX and Sobeseki Pawi: The Final Main :p C.E.N.S.U.S. Arrays - The key to Covert 0.0
Fuyursuki	Posted - 2006.03.31 18:33:00 - [93] Originally by: Ithildin For Minmatar what's missing is a target painter ship /me shudders Please no. IMO, Leave the tracking/support modules to the support ships and let the bs's get on with the fighting. Personallly I'd like a 7 turreted ship with the 8th slot going to something that would suit the situation. If we had an 8 turret slot bs we'd just get nerfed some more, because other people would class it as unfair. (OMG you can fit 8 of the hardest hitting weapons on the game), unless they gave us a small pg and make it an auto-boat (which would just outclass my tempest in that field ) 7 Slots and no more mm nerfs 4tw! 'Suki
Tulthix	Posted - 2006.03.31 18:49:00 - [94] I think we all really know the caldari are getting a bada** railship. My guess is Amarr are getting a big droneship like a beefed up arbitrator. And you know deep down minmatar will get screwed again on their big ships. Target painter bonus, here it comes.
Eximius Josari	Posted - 2006.04.01 03:04:00 - [95] Target Painter bonus...yeah I would hate that too. ~From the creator of ActiveX and Sobeseki Pawi: The Final Main :p C.E.N.S.U.S. Arrays - The key to Covert 0.0
Loki Caldaris	Posted - 2006.04.01 03:32:00 - [96] Edited by: Loki Caldaris on 01/04/2006 03:33:05 Originally by: Eximius Josari Whether I'm right or wrong, the following comes straight from QuickFit. All skills maxed. Megathron with 7x 425mm II = 261.022 DPS Megathron with 7x 425mm II and 4x MFS II = 457.224 57% increase Armageddon with 7x Tach II = 286.471 Armageddon with 7x Tach II and 4x HS II = 501.797 57% increase Raven with 6x Cruise II = 74.439 Raven with 6x Cruise II and 4x BCS II = 146.91 51% increase Typhoon with 4x 1400 II/4x Cruise II = 157.629 Typhoon with 4x 1400 II/4x Cruise II and 2x BCS II/2x GS II = 232.383 68% increase Now imagine that Typhoon with the soon to come launcher RoF bonus. Where are your % increases coming from? First setup(mega) has a 75.168% damage increase. Second setup(arma) has a 75.165% damage increase. Third setup(raven) has a 97.436% damage increase. Fourth setup(typhoon) has a 47.424% damage increase.
Eximius Josari	Posted - 2006.04.01 03:40:00 - [97] Originally by: Loki Caldaris Edited by: Loki Caldaris on 01/04/2006 03:33:05 Originally by: Eximius Josari Whether I'm right or wrong, the following comes straight from QuickFit. All skills maxed. Megathron with 7x 425mm II = 261.022 DPS Megathron with 7x 425mm II and 4x MFS II = 457.224 57% increase Armageddon with 7x Tach II = 286.471 Armageddon with 7x Tach II and 4x HS II = 501.797 57% increase Raven with 6x Cruise II = 74.439 Raven with 6x Cruise II and 4x BCS II = 146.91 51% increase Typhoon with 4x 1400 II/4x Cruise II = 157.629 Typhoon with 4x 1400 II/4x Cruise II and 2x BCS II/2x GS II = 232.383 68% increase Now imagine that Typhoon with the soon to come launcher RoF bonus. Where are your % increases coming from? First setup(mega) has a 75.168% damage increase. Second setup(arma) has a 75.165% damage increase. Third setup(raven) has a 97.436% damage increase. Fourth setup(typhoon) has a 47.424% damage increase. Yes, someone covered that already. ~From the creator of ActiveX and Sobeseki Pawi: The Final Main :p C.E.N.S.U.S. Arrays - The key to Covert 0.0


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