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Justin Bieber
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.09 20:19:00 -
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The dream of its people in Fortress Deklein. |
spookydonut
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
34
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Posted - 2011.11.09 20:19:00 -
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z |
Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
101
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Posted - 2011.11.09 20:19:00 -
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reset may zonday |
Infinimo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.09 20:21:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:reset may zonday leave our newbies alone Theta Squad best squad. Monocle crew represent~ |
Scalar Angulargf
Rayn Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2011.11.09 20:27:00 -
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Infinimo wrote:Lord Zim wrote:reset may zonday leave our newbies alone Newbees best bees |
Justin Bieber
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9
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Posted - 2011.11.09 20:33:00 -
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Scalar Angulargf wrote:Infinimo wrote:Lord Zim wrote:reset may zonday leave our newbies alone Newbees best bees
Long live our Deklein Motherland, built by The Mittani's mighty hand. Long live our New Bees, Rifters and Vee! |
Infinimo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.09 20:42:00 -
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Justin Bieber wrote:Scalar Angulargf wrote:Infinimo wrote:Lord Zim wrote:reset may zonday leave our newbies alone Newbees best bees Long live our Deklein Motherland, built by The Mittani's mighty hand. Long live our New Bees, Rifters and Vee! :ussr: Theta Squad best squad. Monocle crew represent~ |
Richard Bong
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2011.11.09 20:43:00 -
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0 [ASK] Me about drive by thread shitting! |
Sephiroth CloneIIV
Vitriol Ventures BLACK-MARK
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Posted - 2011.11.09 20:50:00 -
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The GM should switch that to a warning (not a rule) for players about recruitment scams in the channel "never join a corp that asks for lots of isk, look out for scams ccp does not moderate the channel".
Making up rules... yea..... what the hell.
And good luck stopping the scamming in jita. |
Scalar Angulargf
Rayn Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.11.09 20:54:00 -
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Sephiroth CloneIIV wrote:The GM should switch that to a warning (not a rule) for players about recruitment scams in the channel "never join a corp that asks for lots of isk, look out for scams ccp does not moderate the channel".
Making up rules... yea..... what the hell.
And good luck stopping the scamming in jita.
Where's my dislike butan
Besides isn't something like this already in the tutorial? |
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Trusty Jutspezic
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.09 21:22:00 -
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The recruitment channel is basically a newbie system for our new players to learn the art of scamming. GM Thunder cares more about two year old mission runners keeping their CNRs than newbies learning about a celebrated part of the game. Sickening.
Newsflash you jackasses, if you're rich enough to get scammed, you're rich enough to know better. |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
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Posted - 2011.11.09 21:24:00 -
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I joined this game because of the tales of scamming.
Hell, I don't scam, but I love playing a game because someone might catch me out with one. EVE Online: Incarna - New Coke EVE Online: Winter Expansion - Coke Classic |
Venus Vermillion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
222
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Posted - 2011.11.09 21:48:00 -
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The use of Icelandic Mind Reading Devices (IMRDs) is nothing new.
How else would they have known exactly what to create in order to draw in millions of subscribers through Incarna, right?
What's that you say? They can't read minds? Well, that leads me to believe that this particular GM's flight of fancy can't possibly be enforced since they can't possibly know where you found any given person whom you might or might not have scammed. "My friend Jake told me he knew this a-hole and I should scam him, so I did."
Of course, they also can't prove a scam in the first place as long as you never admit it. Just because somebody handed you ships and isk doesn't mean that they were scammed... it means they were stupid. |
HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.09 21:50:00 -
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Sephiroth CloneIIV wrote:The GM should switch that to a warning (not a rule) for players about recruitment scams in the channel "never join a corp that asks for lots of isk, look out for scams ccp does not moderate the channel"
There are loads of corps out there that legitimately charge fees to join and not as part of a scam.
Granted, those corps are pretty much all terrible, but they do exist
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Levarr Burton
B0rthole Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.11.09 21:51:00 -
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Does joining a corporation which advertises in the Recruitment channel with the intention of ripping it off also constitute a bannable offense now? Or is it just taking advantage of people who should know better but don't the thing that is bannable?
This smacks of uninformed/incompetent GM overstep, without fully thinking through the effect of the policy, or even without thinking through the entirety of what the policy would constitute.
Free DurrHurrDurr. |
NUXI7
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
73
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Posted - 2011.11.09 22:22:00 -
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HELIC0N ONE wrote:Sephiroth CloneIIV wrote:The GM should switch that to a warning (not a rule) for players about recruitment scams in the channel "never join a corp that asks for lots of isk, look out for scams ccp does not moderate the channel" There are loads of corps out there that legitimately charge fees to join and not as part of a scam. Granted, those corps are pretty much all terrible, but they do exist
For example, I heard that at one point DNS simply charged a flat membership fee instead of using corp taxes. Their reasoning was that taxes were unfair as they did not apply to all forms of income in game. I find this rather insightful. |
Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
36
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Posted - 2011.11.09 22:24:00 -
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Levarr Burton wrote:Free DurrHurrDurr. With every purchase of a monocle.
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Tomytronic
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2011.11.09 22:25:00 -
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So everyone who gets scammed for anything now will claim they were in the recruitment channel and so will get the scamming player banned.
This is such a brilliant move! Go CCP! |
the SNEEP
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
15
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Posted - 2011.11.09 22:26:00 -
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ground floor |
NUXI7
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
73
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Posted - 2011.11.09 22:28:00 -
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Levarr Burton wrote:Does joining a corporation which advertises in the Recruitment channel with the intention of ripping it off also constitute a bannable offense now? Or is it just taking advantage of people who should know better but don't the thing that is bannable?
This smacks of uninformed/incompetent GM overstep, without fully thinking through the effect of the policy, or even without thinking through the entirety of what the policy would constitute.
Or awoxing, or spying, or any number of things. All of these are up for interpretation now.
How about recruiting people and then shooting them in game because CONCORD will not intervene anymore? As this is an intended mechanic to allow for PvP training in highsec, is this scamming? How about the CEO or director walking off with corp shared assets promised to members?
Free DurrHurrDurr. |
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Jessie Gavin
Kick B0rt Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2011.11.09 22:36:00 -
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May Zonday wrote:reset test
Kick B0rt! |
Verstorbene Tyral
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.11.09 22:43:00 -
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This is the order of things:
Scamming in recruitment is illegal... Scamming in populated areas is illegal... Scamming is illegal... Corp Theft is illegal... Awoxing is illegal... Spying is illegal... Betrayal is illegal... Lying is illegal...
The system is designed so that players know (or should) exactly what they're giving and what they're receiving. It's not an exploit of any system that scammers in recruitment use. It's pure charisma and deceit. The moment you decide we aren't allowed to lie to people about letting them into our "super elite guild", you must also make it wrong to lie about any other aspect of the game. You must make it wrong to ransom enemies. You must make deceit in diplomacy illegal.
Hell, perhaps even strategy will be illegal.
"The enemy acted like he was going to a gate, but he cloaked and went to THIS gate instead! He intentionally deceived me in order to escape my wrath! I DEMAND A KILLMAIL!"
Even a warning would be ridiculous. If you warn people about specific corporations, you single them out and put them at a disadvantage in real game terms.
And if anyone reads this and disagrees with me, then you're clearly playing the wrong game. This is Eve. CCP promotes Eve as a cold universe where corporate espionage and strategy and even metagaming is a good thing. This isn't a game with sunshine and ponies (although, how awesome would that be?). If you do something stupid, you deserve to pay the price. If you keep playing after you do something stupid, you probably won't fall for it again. However, the moment a GM intervenes and makes it illegal for someone to put you in a position in which you do something stupid, not only does that add arbitrary rules to the game, but you don't learn **** and you'll always be a terrible player. |
Jason Duril
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2011.11.09 22:57:00 -
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Better content, less handholding. What is this, kindergarten? If so, I wish to eat other kids lunches. |
Infinimo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
305
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Posted - 2011.11.09 23:11:00 -
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scamming is the purest and most skill-based form of pvp in eve. without scamming I would never have played this terrible game at all. Theta Squad best squad. Monocle crew represent~ |
Tomytronic
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
12
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Posted - 2011.11.09 23:14:00 -
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Infinimo wrote:scamming is the purest and most skill-based form of pvp in eve. without scamming I would never have played this terrible game at all. you made a lot of people jealous mi amigo
see what you have wrought! |
Infinimo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
306
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Posted - 2011.11.09 23:20:00 -
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unironically unsubbing one of my accounts in protest
well mostly because I never use it but also in protest Theta Squad best squad. Monocle crew represent~ |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
625
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Posted - 2011.11.09 23:31:00 -
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It's a stupid, poorly justified policy that is another slap in the face to the "Darwinist sandbox" that this game is purported to be. There is nothing as awesome as a 3-day old newbie scamming a dumb multi-year veteran mission runner who doesn't stop and wonder why a 3-day old newbie is apparently in charge of recruitment for a 2000+ member corporation. |
Midge Mo'yb
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
35
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Posted - 2011.11.09 23:39:00 -
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CCP STOP BUILDING ******* WALLS IN MY SANDBOX KTHX |
Midge Mo'yb
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
39
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Posted - 2011.11.10 00:23:00 -
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tbhtbhtbh EVEONLINE2011 |
Drago Palermus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2011.11.10 00:24:00 -
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Sarah Schneider wrote:why is a GM interfering with a (even if it was a) scam that doesn't involve real money trading? they say this a sandbox or CCP has been lying to me all these time?
new player here, i've only been in the game for a couple of months and one of the reasons why i did chose this game over any other mmos out there is that this is a sandbox. if we are dumb enough to get scammed, it's our own fault!
Are CCP planning to change the title to World of Eve on the upcoming winter patch? When someone from Eve University is telling off CCP for catering to the carebears you know there is a big problem. |
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