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Dampfschlaghammer
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Posted - 2006.04.01 13:15:00 -
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Edited by: Dampfschlaghammer on 01/04/2006 13:19:35 Edited by: Dampfschlaghammer on 01/04/2006 13:18:07 The history of recent years proves that the shootings and the chains and the tribute payments are not simply the transient tools but the very altars of BOB. They may talk of a "new order" in EvE, but what they have in mind is only a revival of the oldest and the worst tyranny. In that there is no liberty, no peace, no hope. The proposed "new order" is the very opposite of a United Alliance of the North or a United Alliance of the South. It is not an alliance based upon the consent of the governed. It is not a union of ordinary, self-respecting men and women to protect themselves and their freedom and their dignity from oppression. It is an unholy alliance of power and pelf to dominate and to enslave all of EVE.
G/IRON and their allies today are conducting an active war against this unholy alliance. EVE's own future security is greatly dependent on the outcome of that fight. Your ability to "keep out of war" is going to be affected by that outcome. Thinking in terms of today and tomorrow, I make the direct statement to the people of EVE that there is far less chance of you getting into submission if we do all we can now to support the alliances defending themselves against attack by BOB than if you acquiesce in their defeat, submit tamely to BOB's victory, and wait your turn to be the object of attack in another war later on.
Let not the defeatists tell us that it is too late. It will never be earlier. Tomorrow will be later than today.
Certain facts are self-evident.
In a military sense G/IRON and their alliance are today the spearhead of resistance to world conquest. And they are putting up a fight which will live forever in the story of EVE's gallantry.
We must have more battleships, more guns, more dreadnoughts -- more of everything. And this can be accomplished only if we discard the notion of "business as usual." I believe that BOB is not going to win this war. I base that belief on the latest and best of information.
We have no excuse for defeatism. We have every good reason for hope -- hope for peace, yes, and hope for the defense of EVE's independence and for the building of a better universe in the future. I have the profound conviction that the corporations of EVE are now determined to put forth a mightier effort than they have ever yet made to increase their production and their controbution to all the implements of defense, to meet the threat to EVE's independence.
The forces of good call upon all other alliances with absolute confidence that our common cause will greatly succeed.
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Dampfschlaghammer
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Posted - 2006.04.01 13:15:00 -
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Edited by: Dampfschlaghammer on 01/04/2006 13:17:34 To the free people of EvE
Never before has EvE's civilization been in such danger as now. For, by an agreement signed long ago, four powerful alliances, two in the South and two in the North, joined themselves together in the threat that to any entity which interfered with or blocked the expansion program of these alliances -- a program aimed at world control -- they would unite in ultimate action against their enemies.
The BoB masters of this alliance have made it clear that they intend not only to dominate all life and thought in their own regions, but also to enslave the whole of their neighbours, and then to use the resources of them to dominate the rest of EvE. BoB not merely admits BoB proclaims that there can be no ultimate peace between their philosophy -- their philosophy of EvE -- and all other alliances seeking to live freely. In view of the nature of this undeniable threat, it can be asserted, properly and categorically, that no free alliance in EvE has right or reason to encourage talk of peace until the day shall come when there is a clear intention on the part of BOB to abandon all thought of dominating or conquering the universe.
At this moment, the forces of BoB and their minions that are leagued against all alliances who live in freedom might be held away from your corporations. Five and Fe are being blocked on the North by G and Iron, and by hundreds of soldiers and merchants who were able to escape from subjugated regions. In the South, BoB is being engaged by SA in another great defense.
Some of EvE's people like to believe that wars in 0.0 and restricted empire wars are of no concern to them. But it is a matter of most vital concern to all that BoB's war-makers should not gain control of more territory. Therefore, we all have to stand guard in the North, siding with G/IRON/RZR.
Does anyone seriously believe that they need to fear attack anywhere in the North while a free G/IRON remains the most powerful entity there? And does anyone seriously believe, on the other hand, that they could rest easy if BoB and Five were their neighbors there? If G/IRON goes down, BoB will soon control the majority of the regions of the South and North. And they will be in a position to bring enormous military and economic resources against the rest of EvE. It is no exaggeration to say that all of us in EvE would be living at the point of a gun -- a gun loaded with explosive bullets, economic as well as military. We should enter upon a new and terrible era in which the whole of EvE, your region included, would be run by threats of brute force. And to survive in such a world, all would have to convert themselves permanently into a militaristic power on the basis of war economy. During the past week many people in all parts of EvE have expressed a courageous desire to hear the plain truth about the gravity of the situation. One carebear, however, expressed the attitude of the small minority who want to see no evil and hear no evil, even though they know in their hearts that BoB exists. The gist of the conversation was: "Please, don't frighten me by telling me the facts." Frankly and definitely there is danger ahead -- danger against which we must prepare. But we well know that we cannot escape danger, or the fear of danger, by crawling into bed and pulling the covers over our heads.
The fact remains that BoB's opponents were attacked, overrun, thrown into modern slavery at an hour's notice -- or even without any notice at all. As an exiled leader of TRUST said the other day, "The forum notice was a minus quantity. It was given to my alliance hours after BoB troops had poured into my systems in a hundred places." The fate of these alliances tells us what it means to live at the point of BoB's gun.
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Dampfschlaghammer
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Posted - 2006.04.01 13:15:00 -
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Edited by: Dampfschlaghammer on 01/04/2006 13:19:08 Edited by: Dampfschlaghammer on 01/04/2006 13:17:36 BoB have justified such actions by various pious frauds. One of these frauds is the claim that they are occupying an alliance like SA for the purpose of "restoring order." Another is that they are occupying or controlling alliances on the excuse that they are an äalt allianceô of somebody else. For example, BoB has said that she was occupying TRUST's system to prevent them from acting as an alt alliance of G/IRON. Would BoB then hesitate to say to any other alliance: "We are occupying you to prevent you from acting as an alt alliance of our enemies"? TRUST today is being used as an invasion base against G/IRON, now fighting for its life. And any such occupied alliance, in BoB hands, would always constitute a jumping off place for attack on any one of the other alliances of EvE.
Analyze for yourselves the future of two other places even nearer to G/IRON if BOB won. Could Frege hold out? Would Big Blue be permitted as an amazing pet exception in an unfree world?
There are those who say that BoB would never have any desire to control all of EvE. That is the same dangerous form of wishful thinking which has destroyed the powers of resistance of so many conquered alliances. The plain facts are that BoB have proclaimed, time and again, that all other alliances are their inferiors and therefore subject to their orders. Let us no longer blind ourselves to the undeniable fact that the evil forces which have crushed and undermined and corrupted so many others are already within our own gates. Their secret emissaries are active in your and every alliance. They seek to stir up suspicion and dissension, to cause internal strife. They try to turn carebears against PvPers, and vice versa. They are active in every group, like ATUK, that promotes intolerance and long slumbering racial enmities. They exploit for their own ends the natural abhorrence of war. These trouble-breeders have but one purpose. It is to divide EVE's people, to divide them into hostile groups and to destroy their unity and shatter their will to defend themselves.
There are citizens of EVE, many of them in high places, who, unwittingly in most cases, are aiding and abetting the work of BOB. I do not charge them with being BOB's agents. But I do charge them with doing exactly the kind of work that the dictators want done in EVE. These people not only believe that they can save their own skins by shutting their eyes to the fate of other alliances. Some of them go much further than that. They say that we can and should become the friends and even the partners of BOB. Some of them even suggest that we should imitate the methods of them. But a free and good alliance never can and never will do that.
The experience of the past years has proven beyond doubt that no alliance can appease BoB. No man can tame a tiger into a kitten by stroking it. There can be no appeasement with ruthlessness. There can be no reasoning with an incendiary bomb. We know now that a nation can have peace with BOB only at the price of total surrender. Even the people of Goonfleet have been forced to become accomplices of this grand alliance; but at this moment they do not know how soon they will be embraced to death by their äalliesô.
The appeasers ignore the warning to be found in the fate of many alliances. They tell you that BOB is going to win anyway; that all of this bloodshed in the EvE universe could be saved, that the rest of EVE might just as well throw its influence into the scale of a dictated peace and get the best out of it that they can. They call it a "negotiated peace." Nonsense! Is it a negotiated peace if a gang of pirates surrounds your community and on threat of extermination makes you pay tribute to save your own skins? For such a dictated peace would be no peace at all, but merely the illusion of peace.
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Edhel
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Posted - 2006.04.01 13:39:00 -
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1st, will read in a bit
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Mitchello
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Posted - 2006.04.01 13:57:00 -
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/me looks at date
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Shadow2004
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Posted - 2006.04.01 14:04:00 -
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/me thinks this guy is off his roker and needs to be put in a nice padded white room  ONLY THE GOOD DIE YOUNG !!!!
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Alastorr Frost
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Posted - 2006.04.01 14:04:00 -
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All I read was ...bla bla bla bla... Regards,
Frosty
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Jetsam Starson
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Posted - 2006.04.01 14:05:00 -
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What's the title to this piece? I suggest "Arsenal of EvE" 
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.04.01 14:29:00 -
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Sorry, you're not Jade and I'm not reading all that from anyone else.
"The Human eye is a marvelous device, with a very little effort it can overlook all but the most glaring injustice" - Quellchrist Falconer |

CLEISTHENES2
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Posted - 2006.04.01 14:42:00 -
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Edited by: CLEISTHENES2 on 01/04/2006 14:42:17 SA alt...cos i read alot about SA this and SA that..lmao..LAME
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Tarri
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Posted - 2006.04.01 15:30:00 -
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Edited by: Tarri on 01/04/2006 15:30:35
Originally by: CLEISTHENES2 Edited by: CLEISTHENES2 on 01/04/2006 14:42:17 SA alt...cos i read alot about SA this and SA that..lmao..LAME
Lol, he uses "SA" twice. Have you even read what he posted?
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The AntiCrust
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Posted - 2006.04.01 16:04:00 -
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the forums really do need a new topic.. "we hate bob" or whatever threads get old so god damn fast..
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Ann Ripley
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Posted - 2006.04.01 16:07:00 -
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bring them on.. WTB targets...
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CLEISTHENES2
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Posted - 2006.04.01 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Tarri Edited by: Tarri on 01/04/2006 15:30:35
Originally by: CLEISTHENES2 Edited by: CLEISTHENES2 on 01/04/2006 14:42:17 SA alt...cos i read alot about SA this and SA that..lmao..LAME
Lol, he uses "SA" twice. Have you even read what he posted?
Good you can count...
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.04.01 16:49:00 -
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omg is that my poor head?  --------------------------------
Darkness and humanity. |

Tarri
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Posted - 2006.04.01 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: CLEISTHENES2
Originally by: Tarri Edited by: Tarri on 01/04/2006 15:30:35
Originally by: CLEISTHENES2 Edited by: CLEISTHENES2 on 01/04/2006 14:42:17 SA alt...cos i read alot about SA this and SA that..lmao..LAME
Lol, he uses "SA" twice. Have you even read what he posted?
Good you can count...
Luckily there were no bigger numbers involved. 
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.04.01 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Dampfschlaghammer
In the South, BoB is being engaged by SA in another great defense.
Havn't bothered to read the rest, but the following is more accurate: In the south, you have VC / SA / IMP against BoB, but they lack the organization and skill to have any impact on BoB. |
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2006.04.01 20:05:00 -
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Please be mindful of the location wherein this communique' was posted, so I do not have to arise from behind my desk in Yulai to stomp on trolls. ___
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Eximius Josari
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Posted - 2006.04.01 20:35:00 -
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Well written and ultimately very tenable.
Industrial Giants |

Deathwing
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Posted - 2006.04.01 20:37:00 -
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Edited by: Deathwing on 01/04/2006 20:37:42 Ignorant fool
Do you really believe that this call to arms to unite against the most powerful war machine in eve is going to do you any good? The only thing your rallying a united force against us will do will be to take a bunch of small targets that would take time and effort to remove from existance, and turn it into one big target which we can simply call in the heavy hitters for and roll over.
I believe you are not viewing the big picture here. If you were, you would already see that it is to late for "the free people of eve". BoB's war machine is pumping out capital ships like the Gallente pop out cheap holoreels.
We are home to many of the best and brightest pilots in eve who have waged and been involved in the biggest wars in the galaxy. Our commanders view their battlefields and make their strategies with such grace and efficiancy that you would think they had already seen the end of the war and everything between then and now was a mere technicality.
This call to arms is pointless, you might as well just lay down on the floor with paper bags on your heads chanting "there's no place like home" and call it a day.
BoB is comming
And there is nothing you can do about it
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
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Lliira
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Posted - 2006.04.01 21:18:00 -
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To the free people of EVE
Many times in the past have failing forces tried to get public support by twisting and turning the facts to their favor.
Do not let their foul words mislead your judgement. These 'keepers of freedom' thought that they have the right to go against their former allies, just because those allies decided to sign peace with the enemy. In thier pride they thought, that just because someone is not WITH them, it necessarily means that someone is against them.
People in G/IRON and their likeminded lapdogs are sprouting lies all over EVE to get them support in their senseless crusade against a few selected corporations and their friends / allies.
Now that they have to fight the wars THEY started, you hear them cry tyranny and treason. If you truly believe in the right for freedom, then you'll let them get what they've bargained for.
In reality it is the actions of G/IRON, the unreasonable hatred they feel and fuel that bring instability to EVE. It is THEM you all must fear, as their actions cause people to get involved in wars they have no interest in.
Stop listening to lies. Stop listening to propaganda. See them for what they truly are: Arrongant cowards, who lie about their intentions, their ideology, about history, but worst of all: people who even lie to themselves.
G/IRON: Long have you been a foul cell in the north. Let yourself be cured, so that the whole north can live and prosper again. |

Jurushy
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Posted - 2006.04.01 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Lliira To the free people of EVE
Many times in the past have failing forces tried to get public support by twisting and turning the facts to their favor.
Do not let their foul words mislead your judgement. These 'keepers of freedom' thought that they have the right to go against their former allies, just because those allies decided to sign peace with the enemy. In thier pride they thought, that just because someone is not WITH them, it necessarily means that someone is against them.
People in G/IRON and their likeminded lapdogs are sprouting lies all over EVE to get them support in their senseless crusade against a few selected corporations and their friends / allies.
Now that they have to fight the wars THEY started, you hear them cry tyranny and treason. If you truly believe in the right for freedom, then you'll let them get what they've bargained for.
In reality it is the actions of G/IRON, the unreasonable hatred they feel and fuel that bring instability to EVE. It is THEM you all must fear, as their actions cause people to get involved in wars they have no interest in.
Stop listening to lies. Stop listening to propaganda. See them for what they truly are: Arrongant cowards, who lie about their intentions, their ideology, about history, but worst of all: people who even lie to themselves.
G/IRON: Long have you been a foul cell in the north. Let yourself be cured, so that the whole north can live and prosper again.
We are not defeated yet
and btw we know how to fight and we will survivel tis "test" u cant kill us alown u cant kill us whit 3 allys and now u try it whit more
do u really think this new situation will change anything? do u really think u will win the war?
be sure one fight is not the end of g/iron
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2006.04.01 23:27:00 -
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If anyone wishes to rise up and crush this great evil, we live in Delve. Head for Khanid, keep going south through A2-V27 and turn right at 7GCD-P.
For a short time you will find us relaxing in EC-P8R.
Look forward to seeing you all soon.
P.S. You caught my good side in that picture, thanks. My agent will send the bill for royalties to your people 
Eve Blacklight Style
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.04.01 23:28:00 -
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((Second time of writing, and if you'd be so kind as to point out WHY this statement isn't within the rules of this forum I'd be much obliged))
For the forces of evil to succeed, the forces of good need to do nothing.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
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Scalor Valentis
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Posted - 2006.04.02 00:11:00 -
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BoB does what BoB does, just because...
oh and more resistance is welcomed with open arms.
Lelos or Cocordokken! |

Aloysius Knight
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Posted - 2006.04.02 00:15:00 -
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We Are the BoB, Your Top PvP'er Will Be Added to The Collective And All who resist will be Killed, resistance is.....futile 
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Scalor Valentis
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Posted - 2006.04.02 00:16:00 -
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Edited by: Scalor Valentis on 02/04/2006 00:16:51
Originally by: Aloysius Knight We Are the BoB, Your Top PvP'er Will Be Added to The Collective And All who resist will be Killed, resistance is.....futile 
and then you will be assimilated by siddy.
Lelos or Cocordokken! |

Dracorimus
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Posted - 2006.04.02 00:22:00 -
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As a fighter for BoB, I see that G/Iron are getting their comeuppance after declaring that their neighbours in the north should burn...
Align yourselves with the wrong crowd and be punished for your foolishness....
Regards -
Comin' at ya! |

StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.04.02 00:37:00 -
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break down for every one
bob = bad atuk = evil bigets
rest of eve= poor souls who should support g/iron STAN FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallente people are all about democracy! |

k starwind
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Posted - 2006.04.02 00:46:00 -
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It is we who are fighting for the free people of eve. We are the people that ar here to save you from your overlords that are twisting the way you see the universe.
ASCN stands for freedom BOB stands for strenth .5. stands for unity
together we will rid the universe of the lies that have clouded the judgement of Northern POD pilots for generations. How many more brothers do we have to kill before you realise that G/IRON are turning you into slaves and you are only good to them if you are defending thier space of refining at thier stations. We have come to EC-P8R to show you the way. WE are spreading the truth and we will give freedom to all those that truly want it.
you have 2 options. 1. leave G/IRON space 2. Stay and fight for false freedom
We will not think lesser of you for picking 1 and ridding yourself of the northern hate and lies but pick 2 and you will have a long time ahead of you.
K Starwind
While they were saying among themselves it cannot be done, it was done |
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