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Kamui Shiro	Posted - 2006.04.02 01:30:00 - [31] G/IRON sure are desperate now... Nice long article though. Now if you could only rent a space on all the stargate billboards in empire to post it.
Heritor	Posted - 2006.04.02 01:34:00 - [32] hmmm.....looks like swapping like for like Always where your seatbelt, its far harder for the aliens to abduct you!
SumMeiWhine	Posted - 2006.04.02 01:51:00 - [33] Edited by: SumMeiWhine on 02/04/2006 01:53:36 Originally by: k starwind ASCN stands for freedom BOB stands for strenth .5. stands for unity and BS stands for bull****
Metal Dude	Posted - 2006.04.02 03:13:00 - [34] Originally by: SumMeiWhine Edited by: SumMeiWhine on 02/04/2006 01:53:36 Originally by: k starwind ASCN stands for freedom BOB stands for strenth .5. stands for unity and BS stands for bull**** Hmm, and I guess that not posting with your main stands for a scared little girl? The truth will set you free
Faith Rose	Posted - 2006.04.02 04:47:00 - [35] Edited by: Faith Rose on 02/04/2006 04:47:48 You speak of evil when you have become what you say your hate, You judge before viewing your own actions, You wish others to bleed for your greed. Your blind to your own actions. When will this ignorance end. It is a matter of life and death, a road either to safety or to ruin. Hence it is a subject of inquiry which can on no account be neglected.
Temu Djinn	Posted - 2006.04.02 06:56:00 - [36] Originally by: SumMeiWhine and BS stands for bull**** Oh no . .and everyone up until now toold me that BS stood for Battleship . . . .so When I was asked to report with my BS . . .
Robert Dobbs	Posted - 2006.04.02 08:08:00 - [37] Bob not evil Bob not silly Bob tie knot in big G's willy
Saeris Tal'Urduar	Posted - 2006.04.02 08:41:00 - [38] Originally by: Abdalion Please be mindful of the location wherein this communique' was posted, so I do not have to arise from behind my desk in Yulai to stomp on trolls. You know I always thought of you as sitting in a field with pippi longstockings pigtails pulling the pedals off of daisys. Now I have this visual after reading that last statement, of one of the women from "Hot For Teachers" music video, the one that comes out from behind the desk smacking a ruler in her hand. Could be I'm delirious too and I need some sleep...yeah that must be it.
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2006.04.02 08:47:00 - [39] The analysis, despite its length was quite dull and mundane. The concept of freedom, despite its appearance throughout your communique, still eludes you. Just as it eludes those you wish to address with such hilarious drivel. Truely free people can't be told what to do, where to go, or how to live. They take how much is desired, and give all that is required. The people you are goading into revolution are nothing but cattle, sheep, or any other livestock not bred for any purpose but to feed the carnivores around them. Have you ever stood back and pondered who it is you are attempting to stop? Your idea should come from name alone. Evolution. Brotherhood. Both are forces which cannot be dominated by forces beyond your understanding, much less the simplicity of the one called "greed". You want those not willed enough for conflict to shed blood for an ideal which they do not hold as close to their hearts as they do their wallets. Who do you aim to delude more by spewing such nonsense - your readers, or yourself? Evolution is progress which can only be stunted by stupidity and decadence. Conflict is merely fuel for the fire, you poor misguided victim. The more you resist, the more you discover how beneficial our actions are to the very survival of humankind. Alliances have lived, breathed and died in the time of our mighty existance. Each time the weaklings are sent scattered to the winds, and never seen again. But each time there are a persistant few, whether fueled by petty hatred, or mere persistance, go on. They become stronger, smarter, faster, and generally superior to anyone they ever knew before our arrival - themselves included. You would deny EVE the holy blessing that is BoB? You would deny people the feeling of "freedom" itself. Why do you seek to "stabilize" EVE through peace, order and general inactivity? Not even the isk mongering capitalists can profit without our wars. This leads me to believe you are still trapped under a veil of ignorance called "blind hatred", but aluding to the creation of some massive coalition of corporations hell-bent on fighting fire with fire makes me wonder. There is hope for you yet. The closer you come to achieving your goal, the more common our goals become, and you too may find yourself within our ranks riding among the elite of EVE in golden chariots created of tungsten carbide. Purchasing Complex Fullerene Shards, contact me ingame.
pershphanie	Posted - 2006.04.02 11:01:00 - [40] Edited by: pershphanie on 02/04/2006 11:03:37 Originally by: Dracorimus As a fighter for BoB, I see that G/Iron are getting their comeuppance after declaring that their neighbours in the north should burn... Align yourselves with the wrong crowd and be punished for your foolishness.... Regards /signed I can tell you now that the sides are what they are because of G/iron's arrogence. They where too uber to have any other friends. They chose this path for themselves. As for G/iron representing freedom \o/ Ask any one in the north what G/iron do to people in the north who dont let G/iron dictate their friends/enemies. To be in the north you have to let G/iron pick your friends enemies for you. You are friends with someone Giron doesnt like? to bad! You are not allowed to think for yourself in the north. ATUK never once asked me to set red alliance to -10. I saw fix out there in Q for a year with completly independant standings from bob. However if you set FE to + youll find a swift -10 standing from g/iron. That to me is far more oppresive than anything bob/the5 ever does. People in the north and all over eve need to take a look around and rethink who the bad guys really are these days. If we live in a galaxy where the good guys wont let you think for yourselves then we really are in trouble. Forced standings = thought police in my book. G and Iron are wolves in sheeps clothing. These true tyrrants of the north need to be stopped asap. Standings enclosurism 4tL.
pershphanie	Posted - 2006.04.02 11:08:00 - [41] however blacklight does kick babies and eat kittens. So i guess there is two sides to every story.
Ace Frehley	Posted - 2006.04.02 11:19:00 - [42] who cares if BOB kills g/iron?? I have my own life.. And i have g/iron at - and always had so the 5 bobbys can please kill em fo me, having np with that Text must be in english - Laqum http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/2280/acebar4xc.jpg Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes and your signature is inappropriate for these forums. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
SumMeiWhine	Posted - 2006.04.02 11:52:00 - [43] Originally by: pershphanie That to me is far more oppresive than anything bob/the5 ever does. lol thats hilarious coming from you. i'm sure that if you had any chance of beating the 5 then you would have still nap'd them then huh? you're whole existence is dicatated by the 5, so how you can comment on other alliance freedom in that tone is quite frankly hysterical. go back to sucking***** like you're good at.
pershphanie	Posted - 2006.04.02 12:14:00 - [44] Edited by: pershphanie on 02/04/2006 12:15:26 Originally by: SumMeiWhine Originally by: pershphanie That to me is far more oppresive than anything bob/the5 ever does. lol thats hilarious coming from you. i'm sure that if you had any chance of beating the 5 then you would have still nap'd them then huh? you're whole existence is dicatated by the 5, so how you can comment on other alliance freedom in that tone is quite frankly hysterical. go back to sucking***** like you're good at. So you are denying G/Iron are oppresing northerners through standings enclosurism? Or are you just here to post your usual crying about FE napping the5? Cause if it is the last than I think you are stuck on yesterdays news. Everyone is tired of hearing that over and over again. Also it is very off topic. This is thread is about pod pilots deciding who the real evil force in eve is, bob/5/ascn or g/iron. This issue is more complex than cowards like you can possibly understand. This issue does deserve a thread for people to hear both sides of the story in full with out random alt flames.
Mr SunTzu	Posted - 2006.04.02 14:45:00 - [45] Originally by: pershphanie Edited by: pershphanie on 02/04/2006 12:15:26 Originally by: SumMeiWhine Originally by: pershphanie That to me is far more oppresive than anything bob/the5 ever does. lol thats hilarious coming from you. i'm sure that if you had any chance of beating the 5 then you would have still nap'd them then huh? you're whole existence is dicatated by the 5, so how you can comment on other alliance freedom in that tone is quite frankly hysterical. go back to sucking***** like you're good at. So you are denying G/Iron are oppresing northerners through standings enclosurism? Or are you just here to post your usual crying about FE napping the5? Cause if it is the last than I think you are stuck on yesterdays news. Everyone is tired of hearing that over and over again. Also it is very off topic. This is thread is about pod pilots deciding who the real evil force in eve is, bob/5/ascn or g/iron. This issue is more complex than cowards like you can possibly understand. This issue does deserve a thread for people to hear both sides of the story in full with out random alt flames. oppressing northeners? An alliance is like a government and the standings are its laws. If ppl wouldnt have unified standings then there would be only chaos. But feel free to ask the residents of the north if they feel "oppresed". Also how in your mind can it be possible that G/Iron are the evil force? Wasnt it G/Iron who defended the north again and again vs southern invaders without ever receiving any help (not that they complained about it)? G/Iron were never aggressive alliances, they always respected their neighbours only to be let down by them. Im for sure not the only one who remembers the bragging posts of F-E stating how they "pwn" .5. and that even if someone would offer help they wouldnt need it. F-E/PA/NBSI were already in decline when the war vs .5. was fought and any actions from G/Iron (which had themselfs enough to do with BoB and co) would only have had prolonged ur end. The sad part here isnt that G/Iron have to fight so many enemies, its the fact that most of those enemies are just minions of a single alliance and dont realise that.
Broden Wallace	Posted - 2006.04.02 17:41:00 - [46] Originally by: Mr SunTzu G/Iron were never aggressive alliances, they always respected their neighbours only to be let down by them. So invading ASCN territory and trying to get a behind the back NAP with BOB to divide the ASCN area are the acts of alliances that purely defend what they have?
tbow10	Posted - 2006.04.02 23:44:00 - [47] Edited by: tbow10 on 02/04/2006 23:45:20 wrong button
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.04.03 08:16:00 - [48] Originally by: Broden Wallace Originally by: Mr SunTzu G/Iron were never aggressive alliances, they always respected their neighbours only to be let down by them. So invading ASCN territory and trying to get a behind the back NAP with BOB to divide the ASCN area are the acts of alliances that purely defend what they have? jeeezus, that strange NAP story again that one single person asked for, and it wasnt even a NAP, it was working together and occupying ASCN space after G were done with them. And also since when is ASCN a neighbour? its a bit to far down south. Me scratches head again - the disinformation, the half-truths, the idiocy -------------------------------- Darkness and humanity.
Phoenix Pryde	Posted - 2006.04.03 08:41:00 - [49] While an entertaining read ... g ... there is only one absolute truth in the universe ... its called ISK We quite happily trade our high quailty goods for parts of this one infinite truth Shop // Infinite Improbability Inc [3-I] - a TRUST corporation
ForgeMarket	Posted - 2006.04.03 16:15:00 - [50] I've ALWAYS lived in the north (yes, this is an alt, I don't want my corp to get war deced because of my opinions...they don't all feel the same way). I can tell you that the folks who run IRON are dictators and rule their subjects by fear and force. They charge residents to live there through station taxes, will not allow resident non-alliance corps to put up large POS's to refine (meaning multiple jumps just to get your ore to a station for a refine), provide little protection for the cost involved, and then complain when resident non-alliance folk don't want to come to their defense. Of course, if you do go to their defense, you can't join their fleet(so I've been told). So you're cannon fodder. And all you get in return is that you pay them taxes and have to haul your ore however far it takes to get it to the nearest IRON approved refinery. IRON wants help defending their space? Not from me. I won't defend their space so I can pay them taxes and be forced to their defense because the morale amongst their alliance forces is failing. There's only so long you can treat people like garbage before they WELCOME change. I offer no proof of my statements, but anyone who was in the communications channel for Deklin on Sunday knows the strong-arming they use to get people to fight for them. No more.
Jasmine Constantine	Posted - 2006.04.03 16:46:00 - [51] And I quote ... http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=297994 Quote: As of tomorrow, G and IRON will be adjusting our standings to every major and minor entity left in the north. PA, NBSI, KAOS and anybody else i might have forgoten, will be set to -10. As 5 has been KOS to us since thier founding and F-E has been set to -10 as a consequence of thier NAP with 5, the entire north is now effectivly Hostile to us. This includes Corperations not affiliated with or suported by any of the named entities. With other words, if your not sure we like you, run cuz we probably dont. Reasons: Incapability of the before mentioned, former neutrals to take care of "their" space, Our boredom and the new ship software upgrades which make killing easier. All directors have been informed to count convo requests.The corp and/or allaince that manages to get on our nerves the most will recieve all the attention our fleets are capable of giving. (minor edits for clarity and grammar and compliance for forum rules) *** That was the leader of G. Speaking for IRON and G and joined enthusiastically by RAZOR supporters in a public address given on 2006.02.22 21:49:00. That is not the voice of freedom. _________________
Able Citizen	Posted - 2006.04.03 17:22:00 - [52] Originally by: Mr SunTzu oppressing northeners? An alliance is like a government and the standings are its laws. If ppl wouldnt have unified standings then there would be only chaos. That is completely untrue. I have operated with the Jericho Fraction for several months now and our standings are completely independent of any other alliance's standings and we have not had even a hint of chaos in our areas of operation.
Lliira	Posted - 2006.04.03 17:26:00 - [53] Nice quote.. really. It show who the true tyrants of the norths are. Slaves of the north. Overthrow your G / Iron masters. Fight for your freedom. Do not let your every actions be dictated by self bloated egoists, who think the whole universe is their playground. Stand up for your rights!
Robeyone	Posted - 2006.04.03 18:44:00 - [54] Originally by: Jasmine Constantine And I quote ... http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=297994 Quote: As of tomorrow, G and IRON will be adjusting our standings to every major and minor entity left in the north. PA, NBSI, KAOS and anybody else i might have forgoten, will be set to -10. As 5 has been KOS to us since thier founding and F-E has been set to -10 as a consequence of thier NAP with 5, the entire north is now effectivly Hostile to us. This includes Corperations not affiliated with or suported by any of the named entities. With other words, if your not sure we like you, run cuz we probably dont. Reasons: Incapability of the before mentioned, former neutrals to take care of "their" space, Our boredom and the new ship software upgrades which make killing easier. All directors have been informed to count convo requests.The corp and/or allaince that manages to get on our nerves the most will recieve all the attention our fleets are capable of giving. (minor edits for clarity and grammar and compliance for forum rules) *** That was the leader of G. Speaking for IRON and G and joined enthusiastically by RAZOR supporters in a public address given on 2006.02.22 21:49:00. That is not the voice of freedom. Hmm I didn't really miss all that much did I
AvanCade	Posted - 2006.04.04 00:12:00 - [55] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Broden Wallace Originally by: Mr SunTzu G/Iron were never aggressive alliances, they always respected their neighbours only to be let down by them. So invading ASCN territory and trying to get a behind the back NAP with BOB to divide the ASCN area are the acts of alliances that purely defend what they have? jeeezus, that strange NAP story again that one single person asked for, and it wasnt even a NAP, it was working together and occupying ASCN space after G were done with them. And also since when is ASCN a neighbour? its a bit to far down south. Me scratches head again - the disinformation, the half-truths, the idiocy Lmao occupy ASCN space with G/IRON/RZR pls...not in a million years, i would rather sell my accounts than work with you lot...
Gradinger	Posted - 2006.04.04 08:10:00 - [56] that concord dislikes me shows my own freedom. down with the hypocritical G/Iron/Rzr oppressors!
TheHerbster	Posted - 2006.04.04 08:32:00 - [57] If your reading this, and you are not friendly, You're going to DIE! Free citizens, you belong to us, you will give us your iskies, your goods, and your wives and daughters (as long as they are above the legal age of consent) On your knees and beg...... Muhahahahahahahahahah......hahahahhahahahha.....hahahahah Don't worry sir!! They couldn't hit an elephant at this ra.....
Entilzah Valen	Posted - 2006.04.04 10:21:00 - [58] Edited by: Entilzah Valen on 04/04/2006 10:22:51 Originally by: Blacklight If anyone wishes to rise up and crush this great evil, we live in Delve. Head for Khanid, keep going south through A2-V27 and turn right at 7GCD-P. Plz turn left ffs I am sooo bored
DANGEROUS	Posted - 2006.04.04 12:12:00 - [59] Edited by: DANGEROUS on 04/04/2006 12:12:44 The author of this post speaks the sad and undeniable truth. I think BoB know that which is why they have deployed their forum blob campaign to post as much as they can denying the truth of the situation. Lets analyse G/Iron enemies and why they are such foe. 1) bob - oppressors of the north from long before G/Iron were formed. - raided Ju and frankly teh sworn life long enemies of G/IRON 2) Ascn - i dont think the hobbits were really deemed a huge target until the debacle of the southern war against SA when ascn behaved improperly on the forums and in space. Thoroughly deserving the reaction of the G/Iron forces to take one of their outposts and conquerable stations. 3) F-E, who were desperate for assistance when the 5 attacked with 18 capital ships. For the general populus to understand why FE became hostiles of G/Iron they first must appreciate what happened at teh end of 2005 between Bob and Iron. the servers were terrible, bob probably as agreed with ascn who were in serious trouble in the south, relieved the pressure by attacking Ju in deklain. Iron forces were caught somewhat with their trousers down and many people were stuck in the south mainly due to server problems. Bob were ousted from ju but at a price that maybe isnt publicly known. Iron was in terrible financial difficulty at that exact moment and were ill prepared for capital engamgents, thus the recovery was slower than desired. So to the FE point, - FE were BEGGING for help from G/Iron, HELP HELP 18 dreads - what can we do??? An agreement was reached that if the VAST resources of FE could be deployed to merely HOLD 5 then G/IRon would come and help tip the balance and rid eve of the 5 rotters - BUT - FE had NEVER been to helpful to G/IRON and therefore they were told they HAD to STAND as we were not going to come in and do the work for them!!! - - what can i say - 3 days later - and only 4 days from when we had agreed G/Iron forces would deploy to assist - out of the blue FE capitulated to 5. Proving that they were unworthy of any recognition as a true military force or moral strength. 4) - Alliances / corps left - i will refer to as 'other'. Over the long history of G/Iron ofcourse there have been some small and large conflicts, mostly in the name of 'fun' where one would attack the other - a realtively small battle would ensue and shortly after that peace would return. Most of the 'other' alliances are today an irrelavance as they are mere bob minions. Why are they minions u may ask? - the answer is simple - they arae terrified of particularly BoB and therefore they are unable to think for themselves. If u cant think for urself and out of fear of ur 'friend' u determine ur NON local allaince standings then u are a minion. Finally - Lets be TOTALLY clear - bob pursue UTTER domination of eve through politcal, military and economic pressure. ASCN (imo) are possibly teh most successful economic force in eve, but apart from a small regular group in torrinos (the ecky gang) they are sub standard pvpers. FE - i personally think that if u are an empire carebear wanting to move to 0.0 u become a dek resident - (AND LETS HIGHLIGHT THAT IRON SUPPORT ALL NEUTRALS IN PURE BLIND and APPROVED people enmass in dek - UNLIKE ANYOTHER ALLIANCE) OR u go to FE. Never before i have i had such disgust for an alliance as FE. They talk teh talk but they NEVER walk the walk!! - 'Other' - happy to plod along - doenst envolve them - why should it bother them - well soon it WILL.
DANGEROUS	Posted - 2006.04.04 12:24:00 - [60] as a - 6 months down the line analysis - i cannot stress enough i hope for one of 2 results. IF Bob and their minions (FE, ASCN, 5 etc) continue to deploy 1000 man fleets (with CCP support with increaded node support - something NEVER granted to the G/Iron forces in the south) then lets be frank - the liklyhood is that G and Iron will lose their space. - maybe their spirit will be broken maybe it wont. so in a few weeks / months either G/Iron survive and struggle HARD to recurit enough members to aggress bob in delve OR - weither they deploy to safer space (empire) or die Bob and their minions basically own ALL of 0.0. - AND THEY ARE ALL NAPPED - - ROFL ROFL LMFAO - - in many ways i look forward to taht being the result - as they WILL implode - JUST like CA did when they owned basically all of eve - - i mean lets be logical - teh bob master plan demands total domination. - what ARE all those pvpers gonna do when / if bob achieve their goal?? Will they become miners? mission *****s? - - or as i suspect will tehy turn on each other - - lets say bob, ascn,FE and the 5 are left. - as we have seen with atuk - the 5 are just a brother of bob and FE can be walked over in 3 days - so - GOOD luck ascn - - ROFL - -maybe we will fight along side each other one day after all !!!!

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