Freighters and Jump Freighters are also capital ships

no dey aernt

Market -> Ships -> Capital Ships -> Jump Freighters/Freighters

Not to mention the fact that they (used to) require the capital ships skill. The fact that they no longer need this skill doesn't mean they're no longer a capital ship

so, ye dey aer

No yoo aer rong caps need cap skill and caant go into gate

dey arent the onny thing in rong payce in meerkat eether

Jumping, combat agression and gate mechanics especially on low or null to highsec gates have always had *issues*.
Remember eject and scooping to orca?
Remember lowsec Nyxes on gates before HICs joined the game?

While I think it would be nice to see cap ships moving through gates too, too many game mechanics would need to be re-written.

So accept it how it is.

I guess that means black ops are capital ships then.

(it is )

No yoo aer rong caps need cap skill and caant go into gate

dey arent the onny thing in rong payce in meerkat eether

black ops do not use a capital class jump drive. They are therefore not capital class ships.

when is your sister coming back?

I find myself wondering why capitals are not allowed in High sec. Anybody got a justification for that?

Freighters and Jump Freighters are also capital ships

This is just postulation on my part, freighters and jump freighters are specifically designed to be able to move freely in high sec, it would be likely that due to this that they have a number of inbuilt systems designed to reduce the burden on the stargates, some kind of a heavy warp stabilizer and advanced computing system which greatly reduces the load on the gate and allows it to move something that is possibly vastly over its normal mass capabilities. Of course the cost of this ability is the inability to mount any more equipment as all of its power and cpu is required to run this stargate efficiency program.

Carriers however are designed to have specialized combat uses, to get a similar system operating in them would require far too much sacrifice of its combat modules. Even though the Nidhoggur only has a roughly 5% difference in mass from a Charon, with the theory posted above the difference between its mass and the gates mass capability will be far higher. which would explain why the various capital designers did not even attempt to design a combat capital with the capacity to operate gates (to do that they would essentially be building a battleship).

I don't have anything to backup what I've said above, but at the very least its a way to explain the game mechanics without stuffing up eve lore.

black ops do not use a capital class jump drive. They are therefore not capital class ships.

Then I get to say that jump freighters don't either.

But because they do (and so do black ops) that means it's not a distinguishing feature that makes a ship a capital ship.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Freighter
"They are capital sized ships and are very slow to move"

http://eve.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Jump_Freighters
"Their main change however, is a large portion of the cargo bay has been taken over by a capital class jump drive, the same type used in carriers, dreadnoughts, motherships and titans."

Use of a capital class jump drive + being a capital sized ship = capital ship

Capital sized ship Gëá capital ship.

GǪsame as a Jump Freighter.

GǪexcept that it doesn't share any of the characteristics of capital ships that separate them from subcaps.

Then we're back to square one. If a capital sized ship is able to jump through a star gate, but a capital ship is not due to it's size, can you not see that there is an inconsistency there?

Ok, characteristics of capital ships that seperate them from subcaps:

- much larger (except for the freighter, you are putting it under the "sub cap" section here)
- can use a jump drive (barring the black ops ship)
- cannot use a star gate

Why? CONCORD?