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Sextus Licinius
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Posted - 2006.04.02 07:59:00 -
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 Originally by: NATMav
Originally by: Sextus Licinius
Is a valid question, don't get so worked up about it. Just wanted to grasp the reasons.
I'm not worked up, but if you read deeper, you might find out.
Your answer to my question on "why they did it" states something about licking a Tootsi Roll, but unfortunately they don't sell tootsi rolls in Romania so i don't know what the hell that is, so this is as deep as i can go 
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Zephirz
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Posted - 2006.04.02 08:01:00 -
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Yeah i wonder why they jumped too.. they were outnumbered 3:1 maybe even 4:1 at some point in the system (not nearly everyone was at the gate they jumped in tho)
Anyways gf for those that could see what was going on :P
So respect to g/iron/rzr and more respect to ascn/bob/atuk/and all other allies cause w3 R t3h r0ckz0r :P
And ppl shouldnt get so fed up about smack... i think most of the people arent serious about what they say, its still a game and what would happen to the game if everyone is always nice to eachother???
ps. i saw a polaris frig  eve ftw
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Sextus Licinius
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Posted - 2006.04.02 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: What Nothing
Originally by: Sextus Licinius
I'm still curious about the reasons they jumped. Is it bad leadership, sucky scouts, trying to crash the server or attempt suicide on a balls show?
You think maybe someone wanna have fun playing the game? Like "We are gonna jump, loose, but it will be damn funny"?
I have asked these question ruling out the posibility that GIRON finds funny to lose ships jumping on certain death. There are some GIRON alts following the same patterns so you've just made a believer out of me.
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Sha Dar
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Posted - 2006.04.02 08:08:00 -
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Edited by: Sha Dar on 02/04/2006 08:09:08
Originally by: Sextus Licinius
I'm still curious about the reasons they jumped. Is it bad leadership, sucky scouts, trying to crash the server or attempt suicide on a balls show?
I'm nothing but a Peon, and despise politics, but i would hazard a guess it was a couple of things.
1. A desire to be seen to be doing something other than rolling over and playing dead, instead of just forum whoring.
2. A desire to get ships into the system to provide accurate intel and just maybe, if lucky, cause a little mayhem and disruption.
On the server crashing theory, no, I don't buy it, as I know for a fact the composition of the fleet that jumped in and it didn't comprise of haulers full of shuttles etc...
That, and we had had more in local the previous day without whatever ccp added to the mix in anticipation of this.
I've said it before, and i'll say it again ... Long Live EVE
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NoNameNewbie
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Posted - 2006.04.02 08:15:00 -
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massive probs to G/IRON
and massive LoL to CCP for being unable to deal with it
i was there, i waited for **** to loadup, 20mins later i logged without seeing ****
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Rei Toai
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Posted - 2006.04.02 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Sextus Licinius
Originally by: What Nothing
You think maybe someone wanna have fun playing the game? Like "We are gonna jump, loose, but it will be damn funny"?
I have asked these question ruling out the posibility that GIRON finds funny to lose ships jumping on certain death.
Probably G/IRON finds it funny jumping into certain death, and not to loose that much ships ..
/me thinks the survivors got a nice rush of adrenaline
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Shimpu
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Posted - 2006.04.02 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: Zeonick
Meh, the lag wasn't that bad, you just had to think in 20 second delays. Once you had that down, it was easier to understand what was going on.
12 minutes load time for EC anyone?  Nice you had no lag though. Has to be a Hax!!!
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CLEISTHENES2
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Posted - 2006.04.02 09:03:00 -
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Its about blady time for a change G/IRON jumped in 
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omghi 2u
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Posted - 2006.04.02 09:27:00 -
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hey guys what's going on in here?
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DeadDuck
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Posted - 2006.04.02 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: Sextus Licinius
I'm still curious about the reasons they jumped. Is it bad leadership, sucky scouts, trying to crash the server or attempt suicide on a balls show?
On a personal note, I will tell you why I jumped...
Because you were there.
In the end a lot of us died, but now there is a fleet in EC, at least you will have to check your overview from time to time
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.04.02 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sextus Licinius
Originally by: Sha Dar
Outnumbered but still you jumped in and fought, main winner - Lag, but respect on the move nonetheless.
However, the level of smack in EC- local was excessive,and very childish.
We can but hope that CCP got some good info from stress testing with a GM in local at one point, and improve things for things of this magnitude. Never in a game have I seen its like, Long Live EVE
I'm still curious about the reasons they jumped. Is it bad leadership, sucky scouts, trying to crash the server or attempt suicide on a balls show?
(Paraphrase)
Friday night: "Why didn't G/IRON/RZR jump in and engage? They must suck!"
Saturday night: "Why did G/IRON/RZR jump in and engage? They must suck!"
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Evane McRory
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Posted - 2006.04.02 09:55:00 -
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Well for one think it was pretty ballsy of the guys to jump in. And I'd like to think it's what I would have done.
Far better to take 30% losses on jump in and have 70% now in station. They easily have enough pilots to do fly-bys on the pos killing, or gate camping teams.
As to the jumping to certain death - well that seens to me to be a pretty cool thing to do too - allways better to engage and lose than not engage at all.
respect.
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Joram McRory
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Posted - 2006.04.02 09:56:00 -
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Bah - stupid Alts.
My little sister posted my message ^^
Joram
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Anthony Cash
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Posted - 2006.04.02 10:14:00 -
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It's good that they jumped in and that some of them (majority?) survived, cause it's prolly gonna be more interesting now. I would like to see them waiting to see if our forces at some gate are a bit smaller and then would like to see them trying to zerg us, so we can fight them and have some damn fun. I want to belive that talks about trying to crash the server/node are rubbish. They are here, let's try to kill them.
My opininons, not CoRM's or ASCN's.
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Luciender
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Posted - 2006.04.02 10:22:00 -
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Originally by: NoNameNewbie
and massive LoL to CCP for being unable to deal with it
i was there, i waited for **** to loadup, 20mins later i logged without seeing ****
CCP cant handle it due to players, no matter how much CCP will upgrade the server... will ALWAYS bring more and more pilots to fit as many as they can into a selected system.
i mean look, before the upgrades... they brought 100-200 each side on the brink of node death. now you both (Bob / Ascn etc v G / Iron etc) brought what... 600 people between you? even if they increase the cap to 600 smoothley, you both would probably bring close to 900 or so people into that system :S
shame really. ruins the fun.
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.04.02 10:26:00 -
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There's an obvious solution to this problem :P
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.04.02 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Joerd Toastius
There's an obvious solution to this problem :P
FTL Quantumcomputers? 
Originally by: Oveur
****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Mitchello
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Posted - 2006.04.02 10:29:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Zephirz
ps. i saw a polaris frig eve ftw
We'll probably see YAWN bit (Yet Another Weird Newsitem) soon.
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Halada
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Posted - 2006.04.02 10:32:00 -
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This topic had started well and fell once again into some kindergarten flaming. Some of you are children. Get some fu**ing sense of maturity for christ's sake. The reason that makes EvE an awesome game is that the universe is not plagued by thousands of kids or immature teenagers ruining the fun.
 G attempted a BS incursion to secure a small enought fleet to be able to gank gates when the fleet is in smaller numbers, possibly to let more BS in perhaps. KUDOS to that, at least they tried something.
All of you saying they just log in to have servers crash... well, I just can't imagine how sad you must be to say things like that. 
This alt-rubbish has to stop. If the people posting here do not have the balls to carry the consequences of their acts (parallel with kindergarden is strong here) they have the right to do so. Ignore them and let them go with little pride they have left.
All southern alliances reunited in one big strike. The operation has been going on for a while (~40 hours), and it's the biggest blob in the EvE timeline. So far, it's been a success. Why can't you recognize this is a nice accomplishment ? G DID try to reciplicate, and will still do. Yesterday they tried something against all odds, at least these 100 pilots had the guts to defend their territory (yeah yeah, it's TRUST territory, but we all know now this is G' Captial Shipyard).
KUDOS to G for trying smth bold, and kudos to ACSN, BoB, Axiom and other alliances for this operation. If you can't even see the truth in those facts and prefer to fire away with you childish flamings, I don't give a tiny rat's ass.
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.04.02 10:43:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Tiuwaz
Originally by: Joerd Toastius
There's an obvious solution to this problem :P
FTL Quantumcomputers?
"Stop blobbing" ;)
(I accept that this was a one-off op designed to avoid actual PvP wherever possible, and I understand the motivations for it, even if server stability did/does give a huge advantage to the defending side. As a result of this, however, I'm fully expecting combat to drop back down to "sane" fleet sizes once BoB's work in EC is concluded, for the sake of all PvPers everywhere.)
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.04.02 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Joerd Toastius
Originally by: Tiuwaz
Originally by: Joerd Toastius
There's an obvious solution to this problem :P
FTL Quantumcomputers?
"Stop blobbing" ;)
(I accept that this was a one-off op designed to avoid actual PvP wherever possible, and I understand the motivations for it, even if server stability did/does give a huge advantage to the defending side. As a result of this, however, I'm fully expecting combat to drop back down to "sane" fleet sizes once BoB's work in EC is concluded, for the sake of all PvPers everywhere.)
best post concerning this whole situation to date
Originally by: Oveur
****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Ramireza
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Posted - 2006.04.02 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
gosh, im glad that im out of this now. alliance warfare is so boring now with hundreds of NAPs. seems most of the 0,0 alliances have lost their balls if they had any.
Sounds like you need to get out of it for a bit 
No blacklight, that "lets nap everyone" **** realy sucks.
I EVER loved large fleetbattle¦s, but now we have 200 vs 200 and more most times, and THAT sucks totaly.
Woody was right, most alliances just want to "grow" in space, isk, capital ships, bpo¦s and such stuff. That bores me...
BTW : Thats only MY personal opinion
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The Cursed
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Posted - 2006.04.02 11:15:00 -
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You guys Brings Friggys to fight or did you upgrade to to t1 cruisers this time.
GODS Is Dead!! Beer em Good!!!!!!!
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Ramireza
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Posted - 2006.04.02 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: The Cursed
You guys Brings Friggys to fight or did you upgrade to to t1 cruisers this time.
pardon ?
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The Cursed
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Posted - 2006.04.02 11:22:00 -
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Post Aim at AF. It was pretty Clear. AF=Friggies
GODS Is Dead!! Beer em Good!!!!!!!
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Azure Skyclad
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Posted - 2006.04.02 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Destable
Edited by: Destable on 02/04/2006 04:43:53
I sooo seriously want to create a corp called "Northern Monkeys" now Blacklight.
As soon as I do a "Tyrents" corp for JF, I'm on it! It's on the list!
Edit: Wait... "[NTM] Northern Tyranical Monkeys?"
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Pectus Amplus
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Posted - 2006.04.02 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: The Cursed
Post Aim at AF. It was pretty Clear. AF=Friggies
Sounds like somebody is mad because they got killed by a gang of ASCN T1 friggies....
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larietta
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Posted - 2006.04.02 11:58:00 -
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BAH i miss all the fun
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Emno
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Posted - 2006.04.02 12:49:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Luc Boye
Originally by: Ramireza
No blacklight, that "lets nap everyone" **** realy sucks.
I EVER loved large fleetbattle¦s, but now we have 200 vs 200 and more most times, and THAT sucks totaly.
Woody was right, most alliances just want to "grow" in space, isk, capital ships, bpo¦s and such stuff. That bores me...
BTW : Thats only MY personal opinion
Considering that G asked BoB for NAP (Molle chatlogs ftw) I think that all of you crying "bob naps everyone" should have a good old cup of stfu.
didn't they try to get bob to attack ascn to break the southern nap block?
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.04.02 13:40:00 -
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Well I might be wrong here because I know little of capital ships, but in both major "POS busting ops" where I was involved (G vs ascn poses in azn and the op against trust in ec-), since
- deathstars are very tough -> require a lot of capital ships or a massive blob of battleships to take down
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- its very easy to get opportunity kills against a fleet of bored guys thats been shooting poses for 5+ hours
if you want to grab sovereignty onto a well defended system you need to lockdown the system completely with multiple bubbles or it will probably end up bad (i.e. a lot of lost dreads)
now, for such a lockdown to happen over more than 12 hours and still have enough manpower to both man the gates and kill the poses it seems you have no alternatives but to bring in extreme numbers, hence the blobs and naps.
So I dont agree with people criticizing naps/large number warfare since in my point of view its the game mechanics themselves that encourage it (afterall its about teamwork).
- Gob
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