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Hast
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Posted - 2006.04.02 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig lots of smart stuff
qft. There is a time for doing this kind of work and there is a time for fighting. No doubt the last part will come sooner or later 
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Kryztal
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Posted - 2006.04.02 13:53:00 -
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Doesnt take balls to suicide your fleet. Dunno why you did it but meh i got to blow up some northerners and i loooove doing that so anytime. 
Black Nova Corp
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Echo147
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Posted - 2006.04.02 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kryztal Doesnt take balls to suicide your fleet. Dunno why you did it but meh i got to blow up some northerners and i loooove doing that so anytime. 
Good job it doesn't need charisma either, or you'd be up a certain creek without a paddle 
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the MoP
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Posted - 2006.04.02 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Echo147
Originally by: Kryztal Doesnt take balls to suicide your fleet. Dunno why you did it but meh i got to blow up some northerners and i loooove doing that so anytime. 
Good job it doesn't need charisma either, or you'd be up a certain creek without a paddle 
no need to be rude
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.04.02 14:40:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 02/04/2006 14:40:31
"Edit: Wait... "[NTM] Northern Tyranical Monkeys?""
maybe "Winged Monkeys of Tyrants of North" [POO] ... tho' it'll perhaps have poor Frank Baum spin in his grave >>;;
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Karnov
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Posted - 2006.04.02 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Ramireza
Originally by: The Cursed You guys Brings Friggys to fight or did you upgrade to to t1 cruisers this time.
pardon ?
I think he may be referring to IRON... either way it was a pretty bad attempt at insulting anyone.
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Kryztal
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Posted - 2006.04.02 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Echo147
Originally by: Kryztal Doesnt take balls to suicide your fleet. Dunno why you did it but meh i got to blow up some northerners and i loooove doing that so anytime. 
Good job it doesn't need charisma either, or you'd be up a certain creek without a paddle 
awwww no need to be a sourpuss 
Black Nova Corp
Bob(TM) Brand Bleach - Eliminates Every Stain |

Haniblecter Teg
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Posted - 2006.04.02 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: Haniblecter Teg on 02/04/2006 16:22:12 WOuld you want 4 hostile alliances having a foothold station at yoru busiest 00><empire exchange system?
I fail to see what these re****ulous comments about G/TRUST and how northern alliances coming to protect TRUST have somehow substantiated the claim that TRUST is G. EC-P is THE strategic system for Northern Alliances, if not the entire game.
Its not a logical leap Im asking many to do, so please, make hte ******* hop.
---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
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Haniblecter Teg
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Posted - 2006.04.02 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Well I might be wrong here because I know little of capital ships, but in both major "POS busting ops" where I was involved (G vs ascn poses in azn and the op against trust in ec-), since
- deathstars are very tough -> require a lot of capital ships or a massive blob of battleships to take down
and
- its very easy to get opportunity kills against a fleet of bored guys thats been shooting poses for 5+ hours
if you want to grab sovereignty onto a well defended system you need to lockdown the system completely with multiple bubbles or it will probably end up bad (i.e. a lot of lost dreads)
now, for such a lockdown to happen over more than 12 hours and still have enough manpower to both man the gates and kill the poses it seems you have no alternatives but to bring in extreme numbers, hence the blobs and naps.
So I dont agree with people criticizing naps/large number warfare since in my point of view its the game mechanics themselves that encourage it (afterall its about teamwork).
"More Cap ships than you have in alliance chat"
There is overkill gob. And 4 NAPs between the four largest is overkill. ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.04.02 16:29:00 -
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"WOuld you want 4 hostile alliances having a foothold station at yoru busiest 00><empire exchange system?"
All this "foothold" talk is rather pointless when there's NPC stations few systems deeper,in place people regularly pass through on way to empire... to the very same effect.
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.04.02 16:40:00 -
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EC is still the critical system, though. Unless you want to screw around with Saranen it is the entrance point to the north. Most other station systems can be circumvented without much hassle, but EC is a really big deal.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.04.02 16:44:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 02/04/2006 16:44:27
"EC is still the critical system, though. Unless you want to screw around with Saranen it is the entrance point to the north."
If you want the full travelling convenience then yup, definitely. But when it's possible to manufacture nearly everything needed to keep the system in check literally next door, then still a station in system isn't such a big deal. Servers can handle the normal fleets jumping in/out pretty nice nowadays, as long as the numbers don't go above ~200, and most of the time they don't -.^
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Wizie
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Posted - 2006.04.02 16:50:00 -
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CCP need to install camera drones on every choke point gate, or atleast at every gate and Outpost in EC-P and provide us a live feed.
DO IT NOW!!!
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Mr SunTzu
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Posted - 2006.04.02 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kryztal Doesnt take balls to suicide your fleet. Dunno why you did it but meh i got to blow up some northerners and i loooove doing that so anytime. 
a tactical decission =/= suicide. Even u should understand that.
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Triplidan
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Posted - 2006.04.02 17:28:00 -
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Heres some from last night when my attempt to bring some stuff out of deklein in my covert op resulted in me almost getting blown up, but luckily i escaped and i'm now stranded here, send supplies please, rations and a tent would be nice, cause looks like i'm gonna be stuck there for a while
http://eleves_tim.cmaisonneuve.qc.ca/e0365988/EClockdown.JPG
http://eleves_tim.cmaisonneuve.qc.ca/e0365988/EClockdown2.JPG
http://eleves_tim.cmaisonneuve.qc.ca/e0365988/EClockdown3.JPG
http://eleves_tim.cmaisonneuve.qc.ca/e0365988/EClockdown4.JPG
http://eleves_tim.cmaisonneuve.qc.ca/e0365988/EClockdown5.JPG
http://eleves_tim.cmaisonneuve.qc.ca/e0365988/EClockdown6.JPG
Thanks dev67 for the hosting 
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Gyro DuAquin1
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Posted - 2006.04.02 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ramireza
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse gosh, im glad that im out of this now. alliance warfare is so boring now with hundreds of NAPs. seems most of the 0,0 alliances have lost their balls if they had any.
Sounds like you need to get out of it for a bit 
No blacklight, that "lets nap everyone" **** realy sucks.
I EVER loved large fleetbattle¦s, but now we have 200 vs 200 and more most times, and THAT sucks totaly.
Woody was right, most alliances just want to "grow" in space, isk, capital ships, bpo¦s and such stuff. That bores me...
BTW : Thats only MY personal opinion
qft
oh and we are in :)
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Hyllekjeks
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Posted - 2006.04.02 20:36:00 -
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why isnt it a post saying: Good fight x13, for having 1 member in ec, that killed 2 bubbles and a half armageddon? this is unfair :/
Anyways, good job G. Give them hell ----------------------------------------------
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2006.04.02 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 oh and we are in :)
Willkommen zur Partei 
Eve Blacklight Style
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Baun
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Posted - 2006.04.02 20:49:00 -
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Edited by: Baun on 02/04/2006 20:49:32
Originally by: j0sephine "WOuld you want 4 hostile alliances having a foothold station at yoru busiest 00><empire exchange system?"
All this "foothold" talk is rather pointless when there's NPC stations few systems deeper,in place people regularly pass through on way to empire... to the very same effect.
Agreed
The arguments about staging points or footholds are inane. You can do everything you can in that 0.0 outpost that you can in Torrinos or 0.0 NPC stations.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.04.02 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 oh and we are in :)
Willkommen zur Partei 
Wo ist das Bier und die Brezeln?
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Turkantho
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Posted - 2006.04.02 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 oh and we are in :)
Willkommen zur Partei 
party =! partei your translator gave you the translation of the political term party = feier ________
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2006.04.02 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Turkantho
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 oh and we are in :)
Willkommen zur Partei 
party =! partei your translator gave you the translation of the political term party = feier
lol well at least I tried, should have asked one of our G sympathisers like Chrony to translate for me 
Eve Blacklight Style
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grizouh
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Posted - 2006.04.02 23:01:00 -
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actually you could use the same word in german <g>
just to confuse you a bit ^^: http://www.dict.cc/?s=party
love this page, use it a lot at work. grizouh.fotm.de/eve-sig1c.jpg[/img]
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Kaell Meynn
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Posted - 2006.04.03 01:12:00 -
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Edited by: Kaell Meynn on 03/04/2006 01:14:13
Originally by: Haniblecter Teg I fail to see what these re****ulous comments about G/TRUST and how northern alliances coming to protect TRUST have somehow substantiated the claim that TRUST is G. EC-P is THE strategic system for Northern Alliances, if not the entire game.
Originally by: TRUST Member Well, in fact we built the outpost in this system, because in this system the outpost has no strategic value!
*scratches head*
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BoinKlasik
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Posted - 2006.04.03 01:22:00 -
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do i always sign off before the action? cuz thats starting to **** me off.
*doh, I broke my edited sig :/* *cries* this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
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Ver'kathAm
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Posted - 2006.04.03 06:46:00 -
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Originally by: Haniblecter Teg Edited by: Haniblecter Teg on 02/04/2006 16:22:12 WOuld you want 4 hostile alliances having a foothold station at yoru busiest 00><empire exchange system?
I fail to see what these re****ulous comments about G/TRUST and how northern alliances coming to protect TRUST have somehow substantiated the claim that TRUST is G. EC-P is THE strategic system for Northern Alliances, if not the entire game.
Its not a logical leap Im asking many to do, so please, make hte ******* hop.
And we will see probably the ec system on the next update be taken by one of the major empires...and up to 0.4 security..
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Omatje
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Posted - 2006.04.03 06:57:00 -
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Originally by: Shimpu
12 minutes load time for EC anyone? Nice you had no lag though. Has to be a Hax!!! 
I was repositioned from Ewok gate to g-m gate when you guys where about to jump in.
Upon arrival i saw only the gate, no bubbles, no friendly or enemy ships and after a short while i heard targets being called on TS. After a couple of minutes i saw bubbles appear and short thereafter friendly ships followed by hostile ships.
The targets appearing where the ones being called minutes ago. Needles to say i actually fired 0 rounds in the enegagement, and after my last failed attempt to lock something was over i ctd-ed  All in all i had hoped that since the night before more then 600 ships where in system without causing any lag, and during this engagement around 150-200 less where in local, we actually could have a more or less playable engagement.
I guess we still can only dream about huge fleetbattles.
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Vaevictus
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Posted - 2006.04.03 07:13:00 -
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Originally by: Sha Dar However, the level of smack in EC- local was excessive,and very childish.
what about the level of smack in this thread? You managed half a page before calling us Monkeys, and that was without any encouragement!
double-standard 4tw!
Anyway, for the record, congrats to BoB/ASCN/GM's for organising such an op. It is quite a feat... but then again, give 800 Monkeys a typewriter...

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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.04.03 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: Omatje
Originally by: Shimpu
12 minutes load time for EC anyone? Nice you had no lag though. Has to be a Hax!!! 
I was repositioned from Ewok gate to g-m gate when you guys where about to jump in.
Upon arrival i saw only the gate, no bubbles, no friendly or enemy ships and after a short while i heard targets being called on TS. After a couple of minutes i saw bubbles appear and short thereafter friendly ships followed by hostile ships.
The targets appearing where the ones being called minutes ago. Needles to say i actually fired 0 rounds in the enegagement, and after my last failed attempt to lock something was over i ctd-ed  All in all i had hoped that since the night before more then 600 ships where in system without causing any lag, and during this engagement around 150-200 less where in local, we actually could have a more or less playable engagement.
I guess we still can only dream about huge fleetbattles.
I was going to suggest this earlier, but as BoB apparently don't want a straight fight (fair enough under the circumstances), but if you did want an engagement you'd do things like this:
Commanders of both fleets get in a common channel BoB fleet commanders agree that when G/IRON FCs say "jump" in that channel, all BoB/ASCN/5/whoever ship movements will STOP. This is monitored by G/IRON/whoever cloakers in-system At this point, G/IRON FCs jump their fleet in. If any G/IRON/whoever ships move, they may be destroyed instantly. Otherwise BoB/etc do not open fire but simply hold position. Once the lag has cleared, the G/IRON FCs say "loaded" in the shared channel, at which point everyone opens fire.
It's not perfect, and it demands a huge deal of trust on both sides, but if both sides could actually agree to these rules then you'd be able to get your lag-free fight. It just depends where your priorities lie...
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turnschuh
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Posted - 2006.04.03 09:12:00 -
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comedy gold 
you cant be serious about that.
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