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Arcturus Lynx	Posted - 2006.04.02 11:13:00 - [1] Well there i was, 30 jumps through 0.0 space, syndicate camped chokepoints and all sorts of nasty hazerds in the backwaters of empire when i finally reach the outskirts of gallante space. At that instant my shuttle is destroyed by a sniper but i get away with my life. Finally reaching my destination in a pod i decide to get another shuttle. Shall i choose a sleek amarr, an orange gallante or a utalitarian caldari shuttle. The choice finally rides on the gold plating and the buy window comes up. With a quick glance i decide that it may be slightly overpriced 7.7% or so. I buy it quickly and head of to pickup a new ferox. When i reach the station i try to buy it, "You have incurred debt on the market". WTF is my first reaction, where the hell did all my money go. The worst fear comes to pass, i have been scammed by buying a 7mil shuttle. It wasnt 7.7% but 7000% .... Here i am, realising its my own fault and that EvE can be a dangerous place both in hostile space and in the hostile market. Take pity on me and help me buy a ferox, ill pay you back _______________________________________________________ Image oversized, please review the forum rules - Laqum
Twilight Moon	Posted - 2006.04.02 11:15:00 - [2] Edited by: Twilight Moon on 02/04/2006 11:16:02 Originally by: Arcturus Lynx Well there i was, 30 jumps through 0.0 space, syndicate camped chokepoints and all sorts of nasty hazerds in the backwaters of empire when i finally reach the outskirts of gallante space. At that instant my shuttle is destroyed by a sniper but i get away with my life. Finally reaching my destination in a pod i decide to get another shuttle. Shall i choose a sleek amarr, an orange gallante or a utalitarian caldari shuttle. The choice finally rides on the gold plating and the buy window comes up. With a quick glance i decide that it may be slightly overpriced 7.7% or so. I buy it quickly and head of to pickup a new ferox. When i reach the station i try to buy it, "You have incurred debt on the market". WTF is my first reaction, where the hell did all my money go. The worst fear comes to pass, i have been scammed by buying a 7mil shuttle. It wasnt 7.7% but 7000% .... Here i am, realising its my own fault and that EvE can be a dangerous place both in hostile space and in the hostile market. Btw.....how much was it? 63,000,000? Surely you'd notice that price tag before you accepted the sale. Take pity on me and help me buy a ferox, ill pay you back Check your transaction logs and find out who sold it to you. Then make a point of poddinbg them continually until they refund the cash.
Dead Priestess	Posted - 2006.04.02 11:35:00 - [3] 100 isk on it way for giving me a little chuckle, when server comes back couple more peeps and U will get that Ferox lol
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.04.02 12:11:00 - [4] Edited by: Nyphur on 02/04/2006 12:15:46 Originally by: Twilight Moon Check your transaction logs and find out who sold it to you. Then make a point of poddinbg them continually until they refund the cash. People always suggest this and it never helps. Do you HONESTLY think these guys leave the station? Also, the person you traded with wasn't the person who put the 7mil shuttle up. The market will take purchase of a 7mil shuttle and put it up as an immediate buy order, then the lowest priced shuttle seller will get the isk from the sale. You'd be podding an innocent guy. To the OP: Because your name looks like my friend Arcturus's name, I sent you 15mil to help you get a new ferox and run those missions for the caldari state your info suggests you like so much. Pay it back when you can. Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Darius Shakor	Posted - 2006.04.02 12:19:00 - [5] Originally by: Twilight Moon Check your transaction logs and find out who sold it to you. Then make a point of poddinbg them continually until they refund the cash. The problem is if you do that they spend all their money on new clones anyway and have nothing to refund you with. ------ Shakor Clan Information Portal Every man has a devil. You can never rest until you find it.
Snake Jankins	Posted - 2006.04.02 12:38:00 - [6] Edited by: Snake Jankins on 02/04/2006 12:38:09 That's EVE. I was one mouse click away from loosing 1 billion with someones buy order. In the last moment, I realized the red warning that I was about to sell about 98% under market price, looked twice at the price and my heartbeat and blood pressure went up a bit. ___________ 'Only ships can be assembled, this is a Frigate.'
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.04.02 12:48:00 - [7] Originally by: Snake Jankins Edited by: Snake Jankins on 02/04/2006 12:38:09 That's EVE. I was one mouse click away from loosing 1 billion with someones buy order. In the last moment, I realized the red warning that I was about to sell about 98% under market price, looked twice at the price and my heartbeat and blood pressure went up a bit. I've seen worse. I was in a newbie corp on an alt and a corp mail came in. Yes, a corp mail in a newbie corp. I read it. It had been accidentally posted there and was meant as a mail to a specific person. What's so bad about this is that when I tried to reply to point out that he'd accidentally sent a corp mail, I noticed that the fee for the corp mail was 2 billion isk. This guy had wasted 2 billion on a CSPA charge to a newbie corp. Ouch. Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
lofty29	Posted - 2006.04.02 13:05:00 - [8] Originally by: Nyphur Originally by: Snake Jankins Edited by: Snake Jankins on 02/04/2006 12:38:09 That's EVE. I was one mouse click away from loosing 1 billion with someones buy order. In the last moment, I realized the red warning that I was about to sell about 98% under market price, looked twice at the price and my heartbeat and blood pressure went up a bit. I've seen worse. I was in a newbie corp on an alt and a corp mail came in. Yes, a corp mail in a newbie corp. I read it. It had been accidentally posted there and was meant as a mail to a specific person. What's so bad about this is that when I tried to reply to point out that he'd accidentally sent a corp mail, I noticed that the fee for the corp mail was 2 billion isk. This guy had wasted 2 billion on a CSPA charge to a newbie corp. Ouch. Can someone say owned --------------------------- Originally by: Oveur I see boobies! \o/
slothe	Posted - 2006.04.02 14:12:00 - [9] i had a strange "scam" once. i bought something for say 70 mill (cant remember exact amount) off the market that should have cost under 1 mill. i messaged the seller with a slightly abusive message. the seller messaged back saying she wasnt responsible for the sell order and someone had done it in her name and to petition. "yeah right" i thought but petitioned anyway. to my surprise ccp checked it and she was right and i got my isk back. strange but true. dont know how trhat could have happened tho
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.04.02 14:16:00 - [10] Originally by: slothe to my surprise ccp checked it and she was right and i got my isk back. strange but true. dont know how trhat could have happened tho If I put up a sell order for a shuttle for 10mil and there are shuttles for 9k in the station, then you come along and buy it, I don't get any isk. Instead, the 10mil goes to the guy selling 9k and it selsl one of his shuttles. It pays the 10mil but the sale goes to the lowest cost seller. Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Bethanor d'Lioncourt	Posted - 2006.04.02 16:39:00 - [11] Originally by: Nyphur Originally by: slothe to my surprise ccp checked it and she was right and i got my isk back. strange but true. dont know how trhat could have happened tho If I put up a sell order for a shuttle for 10mil and there are shuttles for 9k in the station, then you come along and buy it, I don't get any isk. Instead, the 10mil goes to the guy selling 9k and it selsl one of his shuttles. It pays the 10mil but the sale goes to the lowest cost seller. I don't get it. If this is the case, how can you sell anything in the game when all your sell orders get filled by the lowest sell bid?
Michayel Lyon	Posted - 2006.04.02 18:03:00 - [12] Originally by: Bethanor d'Lioncourt Originally by: Nyphur Originally by: slothe to my surprise ccp checked it and she was right and i got my isk back. strange but true. dont know how trhat could have happened tho If I put up a sell order for a shuttle for 10mil and there are shuttles for 9k in the station, then you come along and buy it, I don't get any isk. Instead, the 10mil goes to the guy selling 9k and it selsl one of his shuttles. It pays the 10mil but the sale goes to the lowest cost seller. I don't get it. If this is the case, how can you sell anything in the game when all your sell orders get filled by the lowest sell bid? Have you tried under-cutting their price?
Alessandra Grey	Posted - 2006.04.02 18:11:00 - [13] first off, who buys a shuttle through escrow? especially in empire space! shuttles are mass produced and available for the NPC cost of 9k. if you cant afford 9k, you shouldnt be playing or you've only been playing for 5 minutes and havent finished the tutorial yet. basic rule of thumb: the market is your friend. If it's cheap and mass produced by NPC's, use the market. trying to use escrow only lands you in this kind of predicament when you're trying to save a measly 2000 isk over the standard market fare.
danneh	Posted - 2006.04.02 18:12:00 - [14] My corp mate sold a shuttle for 1b isk today. Contraband Inc
mirel yirrin	Posted - 2006.04.02 18:13:00 - [15] Originally by: Arcturus Lynx Whinings of the Recently Scammed.. Yeah, ** happens. Lifes a *** Cry me a river, build me a bridge and get over it. Sarcastic comment NOT FOUND. Please Insert Sarcastic comment. If no comment can be found, please contact your nearest SarCom Dealer to arrange delivery of a replacement --------------------------------- CEO of teh xoria Krint Fanclub. Wanna Join? Convo meh IG.
Admiral Keyes	Posted - 2006.04.02 18:23:00 - [16] Originally by: Nyphur Originally by: slothe to my surprise ccp checked it and she was right and i got my isk back. strange but true. dont know how trhat could have happened tho If I put up a sell order for a shuttle for 10mil and there are shuttles for 9k in the station, then you come along and buy it, I don't get any isk. Instead, the 10mil goes to the guy selling 9k and it sells one of his shuttles. It pays the 10mil but the sale goes to the lowest cost seller. That would explain why about a year ago i recieved 21 million isk for a mod i sold that i only had on the market for 250'000., there was another seller that had the outrageous price, but i got the isk ----------------------------------- HaHaHa! This sig is edit proof! Sadly, it appears so. -Capsicum \o/ I Am Invincible \o/
Ashelth	Posted - 2006.04.02 19:59:00 - [17] Originally by: lofty29 Originally by: Nyphur Originally by: Snake Jankins Edited by: Snake Jankins on 02/04/2006 12:38:09 That's EVE. I was one mouse click away from loosing 1 billion with someones buy order. In the last moment, I realized the red warning that I was about to sell about 98% under market price, looked twice at the price and my heartbeat and blood pressure went up a bit. I've seen worse. I was in a newbie corp on an alt and a corp mail came in. Yes, a corp mail in a newbie corp. I read it. It had been accidentally posted there and was meant as a mail to a specific person. What's so bad about this is that when I tried to reply to point out that he'd accidentally sent a corp mail, I noticed that the fee for the corp mail was 2 billion isk. This guy had wasted 2 billion on a CSPA charge to a newbie corp. Ouch. Can someone say owned Someone did get owned. CSPA charge is capped at 10k :D
Zembla	Posted - 2006.04.02 20:20:00 - [18] Originally by: Nyphur Originally by: slothe to my surprise ccp checked it and she was right and i got my isk back. strange but true. dont know how trhat could have happened tho If I put up a sell order for a shuttle for 10mil and there are shuttles for 9k in the station, then you come along and buy it, I don't get any isk. Instead, the 10mil goes to the guy selling 9k and it selsl one of his shuttles. It pays the 10mil but the sale goes to the lowest cost seller. Hmm, I guess that's where the visibility skill comes into play or sth... I wonder though, if what you say is true, how is it possible to make a profit from trading? It would explain some odd experiences I've had in the past to some extent, but it sounds a bit odd... It would mean that CCP is regressing, meaning, the market/economy keeps becoming more and more player run (with more and more items previously sold by NPC's now only sold by players), what you're suggesting would mean that CCP decided the market could use some more control? Sry for OT. Just kinda baffled by this :) <Z> Spread the Z
SpaceCleaver	Posted - 2006.04.02 20:27:00 - [19] Edited by: SpaceCleaver on 02/04/2006 20:27:29 Originally by: Nyphur Originally by: slothe to my surprise ccp checked it and she was right and i got my isk back. strange but true. dont know how trhat could have happened tho If I put up a sell order for a shuttle for 10mil and there are shuttles for 9k in the station, then you come along and buy it, I don't get any isk. Instead, the 10mil goes to the guy selling 9k and it selsl one of his shuttles. It pays the 10mil but the sale goes to the lowest cost seller. This sounds very... strange
Mon Maures	Posted - 2006.04.02 22:07:00 - [20] Originally by: Nyphur If I put up a sell order for a shuttle for 10mil and there are shuttles for 9k in the station, then you come along and buy it, I don't get any isk. Instead, the 10mil goes to the guy selling 9k and it selsl one of his shuttles. It pays the 10mil but the sale goes to the lowest cost seller. Eh......this can't be correct....is it a bug? Are you sure because if true this changes everything!! The fortunes of war, i'll tell you plain, is a wooden leg or a golden chain.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.04.02 22:09:00 - [21] Originally by: Mon Maures Originally by: Nyphur If I put up a sell order for a shuttle for 10mil and there are shuttles for 9k in the station, then you come along and buy it, I don't get any isk. Instead, the 10mil goes to the guy selling 9k and it selsl one of his shuttles. It pays the 10mil but the sale goes to the lowest cost seller. Eh......this can't be correct....is it a bug? Are you sure because if true this changes everything!! When you buy anything, you always buy from the lowest priced order in the station, no matter what ISK you offer. When you sell anything, you always sell to the highest buy order in the station, no matter what ISK you offer. This has always been true. [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.04.03 02:42:00 - [22] Originally by: mirel yirrin Cry me a river, build me a bridge and get over it. Originally by: Dark Shikari Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Phoenix Lord	Posted - 2006.04.03 02:49:00 - [23] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Mon Maures Originally by: Nyphur If I put up a sell order for a shuttle for 10mil and there are shuttles for 9k in the station, then you come along and buy it, I don't get any isk. Instead, the 10mil goes to the guy selling 9k and it selsl one of his shuttles. It pays the 10mil but the sale goes to the lowest cost seller. Eh......this can't be correct....is it a bug? Are you sure because if true this changes everything!! When you buy anything, you always buy from the lowest priced order in the station, no matter what ISK you offer. When you sell anything, you always sell to the highest buy order in the station, no matter what ISK you offer. This has always been true. Yea... but shouldnt you pay the lowest price too? Wtf??? __________________________________________________ Quote: Hyenrg1 > i am down for light spankings but nothing crazy.
Gamlin Kizaki	Posted - 2006.04.03 02:53:00 - [24] Last week I was shopping for a Caracal. I had finally saved up enough money, but not a lot so I was looking for deals. I found 2 available for sale on escrow, one for 3 mil and another for 3.5 mil (best market price was over 4 mil). When I inspected both listings, I discovered that for a combined 6.5 mil isk I could have been the proud new owner of 1 Minmater Shuttle and 1 unit of Pyerite. The moral of this story: always look first. Gamlin
Joem Blent	Posted - 2006.04.03 03:48:00 - [25] Edited by: Joem Blent on 03/04/2006 03:48:35 Originally by: Phoenix Lord Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Mon Maures Originally by: Nyphur If I put up a sell order for a shuttle for 10mil and there are shuttles for 9k in the station, then you come along and buy it, I don't get any isk. Instead, the 10mil goes to the guy selling 9k and it selsl one of his shuttles. It pays the 10mil but the sale goes to the lowest cost seller. Eh......this can't be correct....is it a bug? Are you sure because if true this changes everything!! When you buy anything, you always buy from the lowest priced order in the station, no matter what ISK you offer. When you sell anything, you always sell to the highest buy order in the station, no matter what ISK you offer. This has always been true. Yea... but shouldnt you pay the lowest price too? Wtf??? I think they mean if you right click on the item and choose "buy this type" or sell this item" because 100% of the money from the minmatar shuttles i pu sell orders up for goes to me. so that other odd thing cant be true because ive gotten money when soemone was selling for cheaper (i think they were.. or mabye noone sells a shuttle for lower than 7.5k) woopsies ive been posting with the character i have filed for deletion, not my ugly lookin manufacturing character that i actually play. oh well
Messerschmitt facility	Posted - 2006.04.03 04:50:00 - [26] Edited by: Messerschmitt facility on 03/04/2006 04:50:10 What you are saying makes absolutely no sence reffering to Nyphur shuttle stuff _________________________________ A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking...
Aversin	Posted - 2006.04.03 06:28:00 - [27] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Mon Maures Originally by: Nyphur If I put up a sell order for a shuttle for 10mil and there are shuttles for 9k in the station, then you come along and buy it, I don't get any isk. Instead, the 10mil goes to the guy selling 9k and it selsl one of his shuttles. It pays the 10mil but the sale goes to the lowest cost seller. Eh......this can't be correct....is it a bug? Are you sure because if true this changes everything!! When you buy anything, you always buy from the lowest priced order in the station, no matter what ISK you offer. When you sell anything, you always sell to the highest buy order in the station, no matter what ISK you offer. This has always been true. I had this happen to me once, sold an item for a few mil than it was set for. Any idea how this is affected by location? Many times I've clicked buy this item and paid the same price but in a different station in the system. Originally by: Razner Cerizo They will never quit. The beatings will continue until morale improves.
arkarsk	Posted - 2006.04.03 06:30:00 - [28] I remember the exact same thing happened to me when I just got into the game. I was saving up for a maller, and spent all the cash on an 8million isk shuttle. I forget the guys name now, but I remember podding him. At the time, that 8million was all I had, so I did something I regret... i sold that exact same shuttle at that exact same station for the exact same amount of money.
Astorothe	Posted - 2006.04.03 09:25:00 - [29] If you right click a particular item on the detailed display, and select BUY you will buy THAT particular item - regardless of price. Always do this for trades - make sure you are buying and selling exactly what you think you are. Eve Corp for the Role Players Gaming Network Members
Durham Elysion	Posted - 2006.04.03 09:38:00 - [30] May I have a saying in this? I am sorta new to this game with a month gametime on my back. When I was on a trial account I had no way to transfer money from my alt, so I put up one unit of scordite for two million isk thinking i'd buy it with my alt. (this way my main gets the isk). But nono, when I bought the two million isk scorite I got the item, but the guy who sold it cheapest(eh:)) got the cash. I had to mail him and tell him he got 2mill more than he was supposed to get. Nicely enough, he sent me the money back. So you DO actually buy the cheapest possible item, EVEN IF YOU BUY A SPECIFIC ITEM (which I did).

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