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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:45:00 -
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OP will not be happy until CCP opens and entire new region of space populated by a new playable race: Space Pandas.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Captain DrunkBucket
Captain DrunkBucket's School of Intoxicated Flying
2
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:51:00 -
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I posted some serious and some lesser serious suggestions in ideas and features forum earlier... one of the ideas is to have Security standings in system change.
Suddenly a highsec system is downgrade to low or nullsec... suddenly a nullsec system get upgraded to highsec. A fluxiating Galaxy. Changes happening randomly all over. That would be a fun change, suddnly u have ur carebearfleet stuck in a station in nullsec. That would create a flood of complains, but at the same time alot of fun too. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2382
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:51:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:OP will not be happy until CCP opens and entire new region of space populated by a new playable race: Space Pandas.
The Pandas are coming.
Soon. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today. |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
1357
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:52:00 -
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Space Pandas are so last year, future belongs to Space Sloths! I am not my skills but... http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2382
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:53:00 -
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Captain DrunkBucket wrote:I posted some serious and some lesser serious suggestions in ideas and features forum earlier... one of the ideas is to have Security standings in system change.
Suddenly a highsec system is downgrade to low or nullsec... suddenly a nullsec system get upgraded to highsec. A fluxiating Galaxy. Changes happening randomly all over. That would be a fun change, suddnly u have ur carebearfleet stuck in a station in nullsec. That would create a flood of complains, but at the same time alot of fun too.
So you want trolling on tap via hardcoded mechanic? Good idea. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2422
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:53:00 -
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Captain DrunkBucket wrote:
"Lets hold hands and tell him together.
[i]Buddy, you are in the wrong game. Don't worry, WoW will welcome you back"
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"So you want a new game every year? I am confused now"
Seriously??? Im actually trying to be somewhat serious and create a debate about the lack of changes.
No you aren't. You did the equivalent of walking into a room and saying "What about ducks?" while providing no real framework for us to build a discussion around. Now you are in the tail end where people sit around wondering just what the hell you are going on about, because there have been a lot of changes that were fun for us. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2382
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:54:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Space Pandas are so last year, future belongs to Space Sloths!
Of course, but CCP won't be getting around to the Sloths until at least mid-2016, when they've released the first iteration of Pandas, and there's a new FOTM to put on the whiteboard. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4007
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:59:00 -
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Captain DrunkBucket wrote:
U might have a point, but in the beginning, the game was fun and exiting... but with lack of changes, u have the right to ask questions, Say u rent a car for 5 years, u have the same car. Ur friend also rent, but get a new car every year. U both pay for it.... but does it feel right?
U just saved a lot of seconds. U should be proud of ur self.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Captain DrunkBucket
Captain DrunkBucket's School of Intoxicated Flying
2
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:02:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Captain DrunkBucket wrote:
"Lets hold hands and tell him together.
[i]Buddy, you are in the wrong game. Don't worry, WoW will welcome you back"
&
"So you want a new game every year? I am confused now"
Seriously??? Im actually trying to be somewhat serious and create a debate about the lack of changes.
No you aren't. You did the equivalent of walking into a room and saying "What about ducks?" while providing no real framework for us to build a discussion around. Now you are in the tail end where people sit around wondering just what the hell you are going on about, because there have been a lot of changes that were fun for us.
So u are now dictating that im not serious..... im not sure if im gonna cry or smile on that
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
15884
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:06:00 -
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Captain DrunkBucket wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Eve online only provides you with tools. Its up to you to use them to make content. As a paying member of Eve, we should have much more impact on what will be the New changes, We have this thing called the CSM, they are elected player representatives that have input on changes. Some people think they're useless but that's besides the point
Quote:not them making rules and tools for us make Our own fun. We pay for Eve giving us the fun we expect to get for our Investment. If you don't have the imagination to create your own content there are plenty of other games that will spoon feed it to you.
You're definitely playing the wrong game, most of us pay for Eve precisely because it's the opposite of what you want it to be.
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Roel Yento
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
39
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:09:00 -
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Panda's have been done already. WoW and Stardrive have them. If anything space ducks would be cool though Howard the Duck has been there.
P.S. to op, there have been tons of gradual changes over the years. Also if you want to find empty systems, plenty of empty ones in null you could visit. The only thing new systems may do is add new lore or give avenues to new tech of modules and ships. Either way the big power blocks will get there and claim them first. Maybe they have a way to add new sov mechanics to these clusters though so it could be interesting. |
Ambassador Crane
Hellhound Productions
120
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:10:00 -
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Captain DrunkBucket wrote:"And they do make big changes. See Wormholes..."
-> Cant see any really big changes.... and wormhole aint that impressiv.
- when i suddenly realized this guy and this thread are nothing but a troll
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flakeys
Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans
2024
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:12:00 -
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Captain DrunkBucket wrote:When Eve does any changes, its always adding few New items, altering ships or doing something minor With overview ect ect. Its never any really big changes, somnething that would shake the univers up.
So to make it short; Why doesnt Eve make any really big fun changes?
And there's a good reason it is the way it is
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Desivo Delta Visseroff
Infinite Conquest Li3 Federation
109
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:14:00 -
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Actually, The one BIG change, I would like to see implemented instead of a full expansion, would be to have CCP change the game's response time from a 1 second tic to a .5 second tic. Both outside of TiDi and within it.
I think that would change everything. |
Anabella Rella
Gradient
1473
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:14:00 -
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Because CCP is scared witless of the angry forum warriors, bittervets, statue shooters, zoomed out overview users and trolls who ask if Eve has sound. These folks are ultra resistant to change and complain mightily about CCP actually adding anything that might change the game from its current spreadsheets in space form.
Too bad these people don't realize that CCP is in the business to make money and that happens by expanding the game beyond its current rather niche user base. It's entirely possible to innovate and add real new content to the game without changing the fundamental nature of the game.
There are a lot of smart, hard-working people at CCP and it would be nice if they were allowed to show off some of their ideas in the form of fresh content while others continued to work on longstanding issues. Bug fixes and iteration are good and necessary but, let's also have some expansions that really do expand the game. When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around. |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE.
215
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:19:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Captain DrunkBucket wrote:
U might have a point, but in the beginning, the game was fun and exiting... but with lack of changes, u have the right to ask questions, Say u rent a car for 5 years, u have the same car. Ur friend also rent, but get a new car every year. U both pay for it.... but does it feel right?
U just saved a lot of seconds. U should be proud of ur self. Mr Epeen "u've" been waiting for that, haven't "u"?
That's one of my pet peeves too.
OP, people around here (myself included) value stability over dev created content. New toys to play with are great; redesigning the game around them every few years is not. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4586
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:22:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:Because CCP is scared witless of the angry forum warriors, bittervets, statue shooters, zoomed out overview users and trolls who ask if Eve has sound. These folks are ultra resistant to change and complain mightily about CCP actually adding anything that might change the game from its current spreadsheets in space form.
Too bad these people don't realize that CCP is in the business to make money and that happens by expanding the game beyond its current rather niche user base. It's entirely possible to innovate and add real new content to the game without changing the fundamental nature of the game.
There are a lot of smart, hard-working people at CCP and it would be nice if they were allowed to show off some of their ideas in the form of fresh content while others continued to work on longstanding issues. Bug fixes and iteration are good and necessary but, let's also have some expansions that really do expand the game.
I was waiting for this post, because it contains all the battlecrys of the people who play EVE but don't like EVE (but keep playing and paying for it because it has "potential").
Instead of all that BS, my you might try to understand that some people both like EVE as currently presented and prefer gradual evolution to the over hurried (read sloppy) "expanding" you wish for? Any astute observer of CCP would realize that CCP does gradual evolution well (even when people like me sometimes disagree with its consequences).
What CCP has done less well is "Jesus Freatures" and the only reason EVE is still here is because they wised up and stopped doing that crap. |
Billy McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
215
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:43:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:Because CCP is scared witless of the angry forum warriors, bittervets, statue shooters, zoomed out overview users and trolls who ask if Eve has sound. These folks are ultra resistant to change and complain mightily about CCP actually adding anything that might change the game from its current spreadsheets in space form.
Too bad these people don't realize that CCP is in the business to make money and that happens by expanding the game beyond its current rather niche user base. It's entirely possible to innovate and add real new content to the game without changing the fundamental nature of the game.
There are a lot of smart, hard-working people at CCP and it would be nice if they were allowed to show off some of their ideas in the form of fresh content while others continued to work on longstanding issues. Bug fixes and iteration are good and necessary but, let's also have some expansions that really do expand the game.
did yoo jus sey dat SeeSeePee doesunt wan to eckspand dere playre bace becos they wood loos teh smallr playres if dey did?
so.. bye yore logick, les playres maxes moar monie than moar playres
an SeeSeePee has enslaevd it creeatif stav
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Desivo Delta Visseroff
Infinite Conquest Li3 Federation
111
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:47:00 -
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Billy McCandless wrote:
did yoo jus sey dat SeeSeePee doesunt wan to eckspand dere playre bace becos they wood loos teh smallr playres if dey did?
so.. bye yore logick, les playres maxes moar monie than moar playres
an SeeSeePee has enslaevd it creeatif stav
I am amazed I was able to read the on the first go.
Also....LOL. |
Sand Shardani
Amarrian Merchant Solutions New Eden's Misfits Alliance
12
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Posted - 2014.02.05 18:48:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Anabella Rella wrote:Because CCP is scared witless of the angry forum warriors, bittervets, statue shooters, zoomed out overview users and trolls who ask if Eve has sound. These folks are ultra resistant to change and complain mightily about CCP actually adding anything that might change the game from its current spreadsheets in space form.
Too bad these people don't realize that CCP is in the business to make money and that happens by expanding the game beyond its current rather niche user base. It's entirely possible to innovate and add real new content to the game without changing the fundamental nature of the game.
There are a lot of smart, hard-working people at CCP and it would be nice if they were allowed to show off some of their ideas in the form of fresh content while others continued to work on longstanding issues. Bug fixes and iteration are good and necessary but, let's also have some expansions that really do expand the game. I was waiting for this post, because it contains all the battlecrys of the people who play EVE but don't like EVE (but keep playing and paying for it because it has "potential"). Instead of all that BS, my you might try to understand that some people both like EVE as currently presented and prefer gradual evolution to the over hurried (read sloppy) "expanding" you wish for? Any astute observer of CCP would realize that CCP does gradual evolution well (even when people like me sometimes disagree with its consequences). What CCP has done less well is "Jesus Freatures" and the only reason EVE is still here is because they wised up and stopped doing that crap.
Jenn aSide I like you.
It took CCP 10 Years to get to this stage of the game. EVE is a slow burn. Enjoy the ride or leave. |
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Ptraci
3 R Corporation Boarderline Cartel
1752
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Posted - 2014.02.05 20:41:00 -
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Captain DrunkBucket wrote:When Eve does any changes, its always adding few New items, altering ships or doing something minor With overview ect ect. Its never any really big changes, somnething that would shake the univers up.
So to make it short; Why doesnt Eve make any really big fun changes?
BOOT.INI was pretty fun. |
thisisnotright
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.02.05 20:54:00 -
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I think this is a great idea what do you? All empires have factions and empire space has pirates such as sasha, angels and the likes also players corporations. All these are factions^^ (mentiond above)The idea is this that when players take power in consalletions with player owned structers there must be rebels and this is the idea that the rebels can chenge the sovreignity so the players must do it more times. decided I could post here in stead of creating new thread in forum This idea would be big chnage dont you think? |
Snagletooth Johnson
Snagle Material Services CAStabouts
88
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Posted - 2014.02.05 21:37:00 -
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Incarna Expansion is best expansion...EEV-VEER!
So don't say they never done anything huge or fun! |
Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
556
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Posted - 2014.02.06 00:31:00 -
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Captain DrunkBucket wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Eve online only provides you with tools. Its up to you to use them to make content.
As a paying member of Eve, we should have much more impact on what will be the New changes, not them making rules and tools for us make Our own fun. We pay for Eve giving us the fun we expect to get for our Investment. So...as a paying member of the amusement park your roller coaster ride ticket entitles you to insist the roller coaster designer has to adopt your ideas....interesting....I guess the candied apple vendor is under the same contractual obligations...inferred or applied when YOU'RE the one spending the money....This adds a new dimension to "self esteem." Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
115
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Posted - 2014.02.06 00:42:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Anabella Rella wrote:Because CCP is scared witless of the angry forum warriors, bittervets, statue shooters, zoomed out overview users and trolls who ask if Eve has sound. These folks are ultra resistant to change and complain mightily about CCP actually adding anything that might change the game from its current spreadsheets in space form.
Too bad these people don't realize that CCP is in the business to make money and that happens by expanding the game beyond its current rather niche user base. It's entirely possible to innovate and add real new content to the game without changing the fundamental nature of the game.
There are a lot of smart, hard-working people at CCP and it would be nice if they were allowed to show off some of their ideas in the form of fresh content while others continued to work on longstanding issues. Bug fixes and iteration are good and necessary but, let's also have some expansions that really do expand the game. I was waiting for this post, because it contains all the battlecrys of the people who play EVE but don't like EVE (but keep playing and paying for it because it has "potential"). Instead of all that BS, my you might try to understand that some people both like EVE as currently presented and prefer gradual evolution to the over hurried (read sloppy) "expanding" you wish for? Any astute observer of CCP would realize that CCP does gradual evolution well (even when people like me sometimes disagree with its consequences). What CCP has done less well is "Jesus Freatures" and the only reason EVE is still here is because they wised up and stopped doing that crap.
Yup, We used to have a 'Jesus feature' in ever expansion. Castor brought battleships and conquerable stations in null (not really big) Exodus brought us alliances, pos'. Coldwar brought us dread and titans, RMR we saw carriers and moms. I could go on, sometimes the features were completed, but needed tweeking. Some now are out dated and need to be modified or replaced (see pos') some were half assed or not completed with a promise of we will add more later, see pi, FW (when it came out) incarnia, and a ton of others things. One expansion was done imo nerly flawlessly, and that was apocarypto (sp?) they shifted to a more gradual approach which feels more like patches then expansions. But oddly, I have a feeling that stuff we look at now, like the ESS, will make a lot of sense in a few years and we will get a so THATS why they did that. I have high expectations that we will see a huge expansion in a few years, and they are laying the road map to it. But we will see, I thought Ambulation would be great, but they messed it up. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2901
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Posted - 2014.02.06 00:45:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:apocarypto (sp?) Apocrypha. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Anabella Rella
Gradient
1475
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Posted - 2014.02.06 01:55:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:
I was waiting for this post, because it contains all the battlecrys of the people who play EVE but don't like EVE (but keep playing and paying for it because it has "potential").
Instead of all that BS, my you might try to understand that some people both like EVE as currently presented and prefer gradual evolution to the over hurried (read sloppy) "expanding" you wish for? Any astute observer of CCP would realize that CCP does gradual evolution well (even when people like me sometimes disagree with its consequences).
What CCP has done less well is "Jesus Freatures" and the only reason EVE is still here is because they wised up and stopped doing that crap.
Nice dismissive and condescending attitude there. You might take your own advice and understand that not everyone plays and/or expects the same things from the game as you. Some of us don't fear change. Sandbox, remember?
By the way, good job in completely missing the main point of my post; that CCP is capable of delivering not only fresh content as well as bug fixes and iteration on older features. Just because they screwed up with Incarna doesn't invalidate successful "Jesus feature" expansions that really added something to the game. Remember Red Moon Rising, Revelations, Trinity, Empyrean Age and Apocrypha?
CCP is a business. Businesses exist to make money for their investors. The primary way to do that for CCP is by increasing their subscriber base. Remaining static and refusing to add innovative new content will not attract new subscribers nor will it encourage bored vets to remain subscribed.
P.S. If I disliked the game (as you quite wrongly assert knowing nothing about me) I'd simply unsubscribe. No one's put a weapon to my head forcing me to pay. I've been playing since 2007 but, I'm not married to this game. If/when Eve fails to provide me a pleasurable experience trust me, I'll be out the door.
When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around. |
Billy McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
217
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Posted - 2014.02.06 01:58:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote: Nice dismissive and condescending attitude there.
yore a reel definishun ov der werd "hippo crate" |
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction The Devil's Warrior Alliance
114
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Posted - 2014.02.06 02:08:00 -
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Captain DrunkBucket wrote:"you have to make them yourself "
->Which often leads to Concord getting u. Or when posting in Ideas and features, ignored until u give up.
"And they do make big changes. See Wormholes..."
-> Cant see any really big changes.... and wormhole aint that impressiv.
"Just wait. You'll see."
->ive been waiting along time, others have been waiting much longer than me and they have lost their faith.
"Because Eve players tend to shoot innocent statues in Jita when CCP announces big new features"
-> Of course People will b!tch, one of the fun features of humans, Some will always complain, they dont like changes.
Organize a group of capsuleers and make your mark on the galaxy ... there are plenty of ways to make an impact without getting CONCORDed.
Wormholes are a huge deal o.0 Not sure what you mean by not that impressive. Their utility, isolation, unique mechanics lack of Local make a larger difference in gameplay than you think.
Like your character's development ... look at the overall long term trajectory of the game - player made stargates (!!) - before you cry to Bob or CCP about stagnation. What exactly do you want changed??
Activism is often times more effective than looting frozen bodies from space. You can buy a new clone but the echoes of Burn Jita will resonate through New Eden for a whole lot longer... inside and outside of Tranquility.
People see what they want to see - change your outlook and take a deep breath. Eve is pretty rad and still a work in progress - what the final product will be remains to be determined by CCP and the playerbase. http://www.devilswarrior.info/kb |
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction The Devil's Warrior Alliance
114
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Posted - 2014.02.06 02:16:00 -
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Desivo Delta Visseroff wrote:Actually, The one BIG change, I would like to see implemented instead of a full expansion, would be to have CCP change the game's response time from a 1 second tic to a .5 second tic. Both outside of TiDi and within it.
I think that would change everything.
Why have they not done that yet?? Seems legit ... http://www.devilswarrior.info/kb |
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