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kieron

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Posted - 2006.04.04 18:09:00 -
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Bugs. Everyone hates 'em, especially when they have an impact on EVE. CCP hates 'em just as much as the community and the QA team even moreso.
Mephysto, a former ISD Bug Hunter and now a member of the QA team has taken some time out of the testing process and shared his thoughts on bug hunting, bug reports, patching and testing.
QA is an an ever-evolving process, and Mephysto explains how large the report queue is, what goes on behind the scenes and even mentions some of the reasons why a bug may slip through.
You can read more in the Dev Blog.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online |
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Wrangler

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Posted - 2006.04.04 18:10:00 -
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Bleh, stop that. No spam.
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kris1000
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Posted - 2006.04.04 18:10:00 -
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Edited by: kris1000 on 04/04/2006 18:10:44 meh nvm...
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2006.04.04 18:10:00 -
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First 
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.04 18:11:00 -
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totally pwned this time 
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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Dust Angel
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Posted - 2006.04.04 18:14:00 -
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When bugs are reported, like the harpys guns being non attached, even THOUGH its not a critical game bug, will they ever fix it? _____________________________________ Stressed out with empire politics?
Sansha's Nation helps clear your mind.
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Chade Malloy
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Posted - 2006.04.04 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Dust Angel When bugs are reported, like the harpys guns being non attached, even THOUGH its not a critical game bug, will they ever fix it?
...not that this would be the ONLY graphical glitch in the client for years *points at the wingtips of the punisher/vengeance/retribution and the weird texture misplacement on the apoc*
I just hope some of these glitches will get fixed in the next major overhaul *crosses fingers*
Originally by: Oveur Jesus Christ. The Freighter ate the Stargate god and the Dreadnought didn't!
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Dunpeal Hunter
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Posted - 2006.04.04 18:58:00 -
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7th  
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Kurren
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Posted - 2006.04.04 19:03:00 -
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Edited by: Kurren on 04/04/2006 19:03:24 FIRST!!
Send the coffee to MEH!!! Coffee makes me  --- --- --- ---
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Redwolf
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Posted - 2006.04.04 19:30:00 -
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Nice blog Meph!
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Hazurr
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Posted - 2006.04.04 19:42:00 -
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Is mephysto still in one piece ? Pessimism is the foundation of survival |

BillyBong2
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Posted - 2006.04.04 20:01:00 -
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Thanks for the information.
Especially about the still present memory leak. On another board I post on there is this one poster who has constantly been getting hammered about the memory leak. Now he will have a little bit of vindication.
Thanks for the blog and thanks for keeping the lines of communication open to the community. _________________________
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Tarentino
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Posted - 2006.04.04 20:02:00 -
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Nice Blog 
When will the test server be open for "testing" again?
if Mephysto didn't get lynched before that time 
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.04.04 20:16:00 -
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*tries to imagines what kind of bugs are squished when bugs like the tower bonus make it to tranquility* --*=*=*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray |

Tinweasel
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Posted - 2006.04.04 20:42:00 -
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Edited by: Tinweasel on 04/04/2006 20:43:33 Erm, forgive me for asking. But the bughunters, QA, Devs, et al... who presumably have a very intimate knowledge of the internal game mechanics, ie the formula behind R&D, spawn frequencies, etc...
actively play the game?
Do you mean you play as your CCP personas, or do you have generic unknown toons? On Tranquility?
*edit* Nice blog, I'm sure you have a very demanding schedule, good work.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.04.04 20:51:00 -
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Most devs stopped playing because they have families and a lot of work. Some of the ma year ago or longer. Just read the interviews in E-ON if you do not believe me. --*=*=*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray |
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kieron

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Posted - 2006.04.04 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Tinweasel Do you mean you play as your CCP personas, or do you have generic unknown toons? On Tranquility?
Yes, we actively play the game with regular characters on Tranquility. As Meph stated, some of the Devs are heavily into PvP and have racked up an impressive number of kills. Others are big into RP or PvE, as would be expected from a diverse range of people.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online |
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Tinweasel
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Posted - 2006.04.04 20:57:00 -
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Thanks for the clarification.

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oDDiTy V2
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Posted - 2006.04.04 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: kieron
Originally by: Tinweasel Do you mean you play as your CCP personas, or do you have generic unknown toons? On Tranquility?
Yes, we actively play the game with regular characters on Tranquility. As Meph stated, some of the Devs are heavily into PvP and have racked up an impressive number of kills. Others are big into RP or PvE, as would be expected from a diverse range of people.
*Imagines the CCP In-House killboard.
Hmmmm....
Oveur #1 6 kills, 329 losses. Kieron #2 4 kills, 429 losses.
Hmmmm.....
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Kaladr
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Posted - 2006.04.04 21:36:00 -
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So, are you recruiting for more ISD bughunters?  ---- EVE-Central.com | Obsidian Technologies - Manufacturing, Defense and Logistics. We're hiring! Mail me |

Menth
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Posted - 2006.04.04 21:43:00 -
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Cool thanks for the insight.
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ALPHA12125
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Posted - 2006.04.04 21:49:00 -
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well it is a nice blog and all, but i mean some of those bugs that slip by are not exactly minor.
i mean did u ever test the carriers ? if you would have spent 6h on a carrier you prolly wouldnt have released it in the first place 
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Peri Stark
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Posted - 2006.04.04 22:29:00 -
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After the last 2 patchs I have to believe the QA department is a myth. ================================================
Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you! |

Riddari
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Posted - 2006.04.04 22:30:00 -
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The User Interface is what your users interface with.
Putting that lower on the priority list is more than foolhardy, its stupid.
3 years, overview still has bugs.
3 years, drones still can't avoid hanging on each other, or in fact, limping around in space.
I'd be very interested to see what your Bug Hunters have filtered out... if they are zealous in their work then it might explain why some bugs have gone reported for YEARS before some Dev says "we never heard about that".
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Phoenix Lord
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Posted - 2006.04.04 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Riddari The User Interface is what your users interface with.
Putting that lower on the priority list is more than foolhardy, its stupid.
3 years, overview still has bugs.
3 years, drones still can't avoid hanging on each other, or in fact, limping around in space.
I'd be very interested to see what your Bug Hunters have filtered out... if they are zealous in their work then it might explain why some bugs have gone reported for YEARS before some Dev says "we never heard about that".
Well things like the server and memory leaks are much more important... without those being fixed (although not completely..), you couldnt play at all :P
Think of it that way. This is just a bad time for CCP IMO. Influx of new players + 2 major patches + new servers = not much time for ingame bugs. __________________________________________________
Quote: Hyenrg1 > i am down for light spankings but nothing crazy.
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2006.04.04 22:59:00 -
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Nice blog. I'll endeavour to be more helpful reporting bugs in the future 
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Helison
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Posted - 2006.04.04 23:13:00 -
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Edited by: Helison on 04/04/2006 23:14:16 Nice to see you writing a devblog, but where are the real improvements, Mephysto?
Blood-Patch: Fiasco 3900-Patch: Only a few bugs fixed Since 9th of march: Nothing. Ok there may be a bad memory-leak serverside, but it¦s several weeks since the last small patch.
Singularity Server: Not available or extremly unstable for almost 2 months now. Bugreports: Still no improvement (remove the black-hole feeling!)
The "known issues" list is the only improvement (for the customer), which I can see at the moment. Thanks for it.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.04.04 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing totally pwned this time 
Most people are lucky to make it on the first page, you're spoiled!
Originally by: Dark Shikari Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined.
RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran |

Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.04.04 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kaladr So, are you recruiting for more ISD bughunters? 
There was some big Aurora recruitment thing that was posted about a awhile back, I think it was in a dev blog? I'd imagine the bughunters are looking for people too, altho probably not as much as Aurora, since more players = bigger event 'crowds', and more aurora = more events, and in various regions?
Originally by: Dark Shikari Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined.
RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran |

Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.04.04 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: Riddari I'd be very interested to see what your Bug Hunters have filtered out... if they are zealous in their work then it might explain why some bugs have gone reported for YEARS before some Dev says "we never heard about that".
I have a feeling things like the drone bugs may require looking at code, and I can't imagine the ISD helpers have that kind of access. Most of them probably won't know what they're looking at.
Originally by: Dark Shikari Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined.
RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran |
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