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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.04.06 09:01:00 -
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I have seen predictions from many on the future of our alliance. I would like to further discuss this topic for entertainment value alone. Let me start by saying I am just a front line solider and in no way dictate alliance policy.
The simple question put forth by many is, "What if we win?" Here are my thoughts on the subject.
Our most basic goal in life is the elimination of major threats through out the galaxy. We have been very affective in this goal to date. But we can never be one hundred percent effective due to a technology called cloning. Don't get me wrong, I have seen the inside of a cloning vat and I am very thankful for the technology, but lets face it. It does make it harder to "win". We however can attack the enemy financially, by destroying ships and stations. Keep killing them until they can not afford to face us in combat. At that point they are no longer a major threat. We may move on at this point.
LetĘs say some months or even years down the road every last alliance that is a major threat to us is destroyed, what then? Many say it will be the end of society, that it would be our downfall. I do not agree. Our true friends will remain sovereign; I think the fleet fights would be transformed into smaller mobile fights, five to ten pilots per gang, controlling a constellation or perhaps even a region. With new technologies like clone jumping and older technologies like motherships and titans, we can respond to any threat that arises instantly. We can travel hundreds of light years in mear minutes to meet that threat head on and exterminate it.
Greed guarantees there will always be hostility in lawless space, there will always be those that try to take without permission. If the previous does happen, we will be there to send them back to the clone vats.
Let me hear your thoughts and predictions.
Fear the Ibis of doom. |
ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.04.06 09:12:00 -
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I don't think you can ever truly "win" due to the fact that if you don't occupy a area of space that is under your claim then somebody else will appear and take it while you are half a galaxy away.
Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.04.06 09:56:00 -
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 Originally by: ParMizaN
I don't think you can ever truly "win" due to the fact that if you don't occupy a area of space that is under your claim then somebody else will appear and take it while you are half a galaxy away.
With the proper logistics, we can instantly move across half the galaxy and disperse the claim before they can gain a foothold.
Fear the Ibis of doom. |
IcedBach Jr
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Posted - 2006.04.06 10:11:00 -
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You are still very far from winning while best of buddies with ASCN arent you, they are still the biggest and best setup alliance in the game.
Praeludium to success |
Chai N'Dorr
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Posted - 2006.04.06 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Boonaki
LetĘs say some months or even years down the road every last alliance that is a major threat to us is destroyed, what then?
Then the in-fighting will start...
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Chain Gang
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Posted - 2006.04.06 10:31:00 -
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Edited by: Chain Gang on 06/04/2006 10:32:26
No one will destroy BoB, it will be like all the Aliiances before and after ...
They will destroy themselves ..... BoB will get bored with nothing big to shoot at
and the decay will set in.
For all the chest beating today shouting "we are Number 1" lies a group of people
tomorrow sending in Corp Applications.
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Fred0
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Posted - 2006.04.06 11:24:00 -
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Oh Behold, The Kalened of BOB.
Clue: You will never find a win button in life.
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2006.04.06 11:28:00 -
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"Hi!
We havent been spoken about enough this week.
Please feel to fill a thread about us!
Thank you!"
Of course people whine, its cause your sig sucks
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.04.06 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: Chai N'Dorr
Originally by: Boonaki
LetĘs say some months or even years down the road every last alliance that is a major threat to us is destroyed, what then?
Then the in-fighting will start...
Fear the Ibis of doom. |
thebold
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Posted - 2006.04.06 12:58:00 -
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http://www.bob-online.com
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.04.06 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: thebold
http://www.bob-online.com
Originally by: CCP Rules
1. Absolutely no Out of Character (OOC) comments will be posted. If there is an OOC post made, it will be removed in its entirety. If an IC post is made but partly containing OOC it may be edited to remove the OOC or also deleted.
Please keep it in game, mods please delete this once you have done your thing.
Fear the Ibis of doom. |
Chai N'Dorr
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Posted - 2006.04.06 14:19:00 -
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You are a fighting force. It's what you do, it's what you are good at. A common enemy is a great way of keeping people together.
We are brought up with War, struggles, ships and guns and are taught how to use them. It is an essential part of our being. You honestly think that when there is no one left to fight, anyone, no matter how good his leadership, can stop what's at the core of our beings?
Leaders grow old and tired and lose their edge. It takes more than just people to keep tens to hundreds of thousands of pilots together: goals keep people together. If you (BoB) conquered Eve, you have reached your goal. I can't for the life of me see y'all sit around the campfire holding hands and singing "Kumbayah". Can you?
Originally by: Boonaki
If a single player trys to start trouble. It's extinguished.
Single people have friends... killing the problem has never been the solution against the roots of the problem.
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.04.06 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Chai N'Dorr
You are a fighting force. It's what you do, it's what you are good at. A common enemy is a great way of keeping people together.
We are brought up with War, struggles, ships and guns and are taught how to use them. It is an essential part of our being. You honestly think that when there is no one left to fight, anyone, no matter how good his leadership, can stop what's at the core of our beings?
Leaders grow old and tired and lose their edge. It takes more than just people to keep tens to hundreds of thousands of pilots together: goals keep people together. If you (BoB) conquered Eve, you have reached your goal. I can't for the life of me see y'all sit around the campfire holding hands and singing "Kumbayah". Can you?
Originally by: Boonaki
If a single player trys to start trouble. It's extinguished.
Single people have friends... killing the problem has never been the solution against the roots of the problem.
If every hostile alliances falls before us, there will still be more to kill and space to control. Many of my brethren do not actually care about controlling space, however catching and killing those that dare cross our borders without permission would satisfy most.
A little known fact is most of our pilots prefer small, fast, and deadly gangs for a few hours a day then spending half a day traveling, hopefully getting a thirty minute fight, then heading back home.
We only do the fleet warfare due to the requirements of the mission at hand, if we win, that's when our fun begins.
Fear the Ibis of doom. |
j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.04.06 15:14:00 -
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"Let me hear your thoughts and predictions."
It'll probably indeed spell the doom of human race... Kayo getting it his way and making the cat ears mandatory part of anatomy just can't end well >>;
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babyblue
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Posted - 2006.04.06 15:47:00 -
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The CCP plants in BoB will make sure it breaks apart/fails - it's in their interests for things to remain fluid, otherwise it'd just be boring as hell. Not that I'm saying it isn't as things stand right now.
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abdul ge
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Posted - 2006.04.06 17:05:00 -
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Shouldnt the most basic goal of a corp or alliance be having fun. I just dont see how total control of 0.0 should be fun. No open fights only raids of always new small corps. No reason anymore to grow because there is already to much isk. No big enemy anymore which you can learn to hate and fight.
If bob ever elminates all mayor threats it like playing a game in good mod and everyone knows how fast that gets boring.
But ok its still a long way to go for bob. They deserfe to be the strongest alliance right now. But there was always some strong alliance and they are all gone.
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Sarah Aubry
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Posted - 2006.04.06 17:21:00 -
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if ever you pose a threat to all of 0.0 CCP would send in the jovian mothership to make you start from scratch :D |
Masta Killa
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Posted - 2006.04.06 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Boonaki
The simple question put forth by many is, "What if we win?"
Then our kills will all have BOB tags on them, it's as simple as that.
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Testicular Testes
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Posted - 2006.04.06 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: w0rmy
"Hi!
We havent been spoken about enough this week.
Please feel to fill a thread about us!
Thank you!"
I think your GBS docking fee is piracy.
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Don ZOLA
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Posted - 2006.04.06 17:57:00 -
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u cant win eve, no one can. if the biggest blob is ur "sign" of winning eve, then u won it for short time, cuz goonfleet is gonna own u in that field :P
and also there is question what u mean by "winning" ? controling all of 0.0 ? that wont happen. or not having anyone who could opose u ? thats called blobing :P bob does have nice number of good pvpers in it, but even bigger number pvp wannabes and forum tards.
i guess u alraedy got some old members bored with blob tactics and new recruits boosting on forums for achievements they were not participating in and will sooner or later want to come back to what they r good in (real pvp without blobs ie 20vs20 or smtha like that), considering "core" and best corp in bob is evol and core of it r mostly old evol members and old m0o members i guess they will start going other ways. other old members will follow their example and only cannon fodder will remain in it :D
also there is possibility that with no enemies to fight ( no one can opose ur blobs) and lots of egos in bob there might be some ego colliding and start some wars. thou that will only happen if molle decides to allow it :)
There are 2 rules in a successful life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.04.06 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Don ZOLA
u cant win eve, no one can. if the biggest blob is ur "sign" of winning eve, then u won it for short time, cuz goonfleet is gonna own u in that field :P
and also there is question what u mean by "winning" ? controling all of 0.0 ? that wont happen. or not having anyone who could opose u ? thats called blobing :P bob does have nice number of good pvpers in it, but even bigger number pvp wannabes and forum tards.
i guess u alraedy got some old members bored with blob tactics and new recruits boosting on forums for achievements they were not participating in and will sooner or later want to come back to what they r good in (real pvp without blobs ie 20vs20 or smtha like that), considering "core" and best corp in bob is evol and core of it r mostly old evol members and old m0o members i guess they will start going other ways. other old members will follow their example and only cannon fodder will remain in it :D
also there is possibility that with no enemies to fight ( no one can opose ur blobs) and lots of egos in bob there might be some ego colliding and start some wars. thou that will only happen if molle decides to allow it :)
We were never the ones that said we were winning, but it's been brought up by others.
The rest of what you had said is covered by my other posts.
Fear the Ibis of doom. |
Therem Harth
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Posted - 2006.04.06 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Boonaki
Our most basic goal in life is the elimination of major threats through out the galaxy.
Major threats to what? Or to whom? The answer to your stated question lies within the correct definition of "threat" in your declaration. And that's all I have to say about it. (c) Forrest Gump
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Ather Ialeas
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Posted - 2006.04.06 20:52:00 -
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I guess I was one of those who said that BloB has "won eve" but whatever, here's what I think what would happen after their success:
First most of the community goes to recession due to the fact that if you're not carebearing and care about something else than popping lonely haulers (or in other words, want to control your own piece of space) because the whole idea that there is one entity oppressing all the exciting and most likely also valuable areas in the game may seem like telling someone to build a pyramid underwater using a shovel.
After that comes some sort of "call to arms" phase where all those who live in denial decide to attack teh ebul dominator. The dominating force won't die because of this, most likely they'll be just happy to have something to shoot at for a while.
The attack may cause a ripple in the alliance and amplify the differences between corps and then a civil war of sorts will be the end result. After long and most likely both expensive and depressive fights the original dominating alliance breaks to several small ones and everything may seem to be OK once again.
What really makes the difference is what happens while all the above is happening. If for example the price of mercoxit is brought down to say 5k/piece just because this dominating alliance decides so, it'll affect the whole game. And now with RMR the number #1 market sub area one could mess with a lot is the T2 market. In the long run, ruining the market would ruin the game.
Also the whole "We wtfbbqpwn u!"-attitude and the general griefing, trolling etc. which seem to be very common among almost all alliances who care to post in here and isn't very healthy either. I'm talking about the actual game mechanics and new player experience in here, if the environment feels hostile it's very unlikely they'll start playing the game at their full potential and after a few months they'll just quit. I think I heard from the Vegas 'cast that there's almost 30 000 trial accounts at the moment but only about 5k or so of those are predicted to buy one month of gametime and even smaller number are expected to continue their subscription after that.
So what I'm trying to say that whatever happens, the alliance which is stupid enough to take control of most of the EVE will most likely turn out to be everyone's prime target of grief and in some point that alliance would get sloppy and because of that the game itself would be hindered a lot. I know my view of this issue is rather pessimistic but that's just because I don't want to be one those guys who believe in Santa Claus and Tooth Fairy because mommy told they exist.
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PhalHell
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Posted - 2006.04.07 06:14:00 -
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Like I said before. If you win and BoB owns EVE, we all will be BoB. Thereafter we link EVE to Starwars Galaxies and we take it from there....
The opinions expressed herein are not necessarily those of my corps, not necessarily mine, and probably not necessary.
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2006.04.07 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: Testicular Testes
I think your GBS docking fee is piracy.
Hush, matter farmer!
Of course people whine, its cause your sig sucks
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Sandler
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Posted - 2006.04.07 07:05:00 -
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Why couldnt you guys be called Adam instead of BOB?
Bob Sandler doesnt sound as good as Adam Sandler....
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Boonaki
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Posted - 2006.04.07 08:08:00 -
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Hymm, well, in light of recent events, not sure what to say now.
Fear the Ibis of doom. |
Morfeos
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Posted - 2006.04.07 09:51:00 -
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Edited by: Morfeos on 07/04/2006 09:53:07
The last guy i heared with the same ideas was Napoleon Bonaparte.
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.04.07 11:18:00 -
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Tbh I think its been shown in the past few days the BoB certainly has the balls and logistics to take over most of the universe unless all the alliances out there follow the call to arms under one banner, which will most likely result in one of the biggest zerg rush's in eve. Either way we're going to see massive changes to the world of eve in the next few months and probably some economic changes aswell.
Time to find a nice dugout to duck and cover in.
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Masochist
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Posted - 2006.04.07 11:18:00 -
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You need my name?
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