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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3075
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Posted - 2011.11.10 11:44:00 -
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AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Katrina Oniseki wrote:AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:The Mittani, I petitioned you, it should be there in game logs anyway so you better give the isk. If not, I hope CCP can investigate and see if Amara Jade was involved or not in the scam and reimburse me. The petition won't help, because he didn't break any rules. Sorry. By the way, CSM are just players who communicate with the devs, not CCP employees bound by a code of ethics. They do have ingame restrictions, like following NDA and not trying to profit off future changes to the game. (For example, if Mittani knew that, say, Scrap Metal was suddenly going to be made to refine into Megacyte , and he bought up a **** ton of Scrap Metal to sell, he would get banned.) Making a profit off overtrusting people with too much ISK however... that's fair game. It just occurred to me that this thread only found its way into C+P after several pages, and that this post was on the first page; and, yet, Admiral Thrawn is still here, a dozen pages later, not getting the message. At this point I don't think there is any real point in repeating the same thing over and over to him; either he is a troll, or he simply refuses to believe that the game could be run this way; or, some other explanation beyond my ken exists for which I feel no shame being unable to fathom or even consider. Ever the optimist, I will try one more time to connect with the dear space admiral: no rules were broken in your hypothetical allegation; this thread shall serve no purpose but to provide goons and our friends a reason to post and to "like," each other's posts here on spacebook; and, hopefully, neither you nor anyone else reading this thread will take away any reasonable knowledge from it because as Dear Leader kindly noted we are presently having a newbie recruitment drive on Something Awful and we don't want our poor newbies to go hungry because people suddenly smartened up after years of falling for the same scams. I don't get your the message, you don't get mine. We live in different worlds therefore we cannot agree on this subject. I don't scam people, not in game, not in real life. That's how I am. I got scammed, my bad for trusting a scumbag. End of story. I hope some other players benefit by reading this post and won't get scammed, at least not the way I was. CSM is a bunch of players that have written CSM on their avatar...At least I got that right. I get your message: you believe that the members of the CSM are or should be held to an ethical code of conduct with regards to their interactions with other players. My message is simply that they are not. This is not an opinion-based argument; it is a statement of facts and policy, which coincidentally has been confirmed by a GM response. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad |

Dyner
Midgard Protectorate
17
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Posted - 2011.11.10 11:44:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:Dyner wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:Pathetic is one of the words that can pretty much describe you guys. Spacerich is another word that can describe us. Thanks for helping out with that. Goonswarm, we are the 0.01% :P Your all the females in eve?
Someone hasn't been made aware of the Occupy Protest  |

Alara IonStorm
RvB - BLUE Republic
374
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Posted - 2011.11.10 11:45:00 -
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**** You.
Know I am stuck on Disney Songs.
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3075
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Posted - 2011.11.10 11:46:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:The Mittani wrote:AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:So, what's next ? CCP scamming ?
I paid for the plex and time has not been added to my pilot license. CCP: No you didn't. I am but a humble elected representative of the people. It just so happens that the people love war, murder, scamming and sadism. vOv This needs to be your motto for the next election. Its already your platform  I regret that I have but one "like" to give per post. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad |

Sutskop
PILSGESCHWADER Monkey Circus
5
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Posted - 2011.11.10 11:46:00 -
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So you did no research whatsoever but counted on
AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:AdmiraI Thrawn > you recommended him
Seriously? So much effort for 20b? And now you come to the forums asking what the CSM is actually doing? I think it's pretty noble the buyer offered to split the loss, but obviously you were both clueless. |

Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3075
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Posted - 2011.11.10 11:48:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:**** You. Now I am stuck on Disney Songs. Every time that I hear or read someone say "deception" or "scam," in EVE Online, I get "Not One of Us," from The Lion King 2 stuck in my head; sometimes, I go and watch it on YouTube, and the next thing you know it's "Be Prepared," "Hakuna Matata," "Prince Ali," and dear god there are just so many songs from my childhood that I only ever hear when the muse strikes me in the form of someone in EVE Online talking about doing mean things to other players. I think this might be some sort of psychological deficit on my part, that I associate these pleasant memories and fanciful songs with the dystopian space-libertarianism of EVE Online. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad |

Dyner
Midgard Protectorate
17
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Posted - 2011.11.10 11:52:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:**** You. Now I am stuck on Disney Songs.
Work here is done...ish |

Alara IonStorm
RvB - BLUE Republic
376
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Posted - 2011.11.10 12:20:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote: Every time that I hear or read someone say "deception" or "scam," in EVE Online, I get "Not One of Us," from The Lion King 2 stuck in my head; sometimes, I go and watch it on YouTube, and the next thing you know it's "Be Prepared," "Hakuna Matata," "Prince Ali," and dear god there are just so many songs from my childhood that I only ever hear when the muse strikes me in the form of someone in EVE Online talking about doing mean things to other players. I think this might be some sort of psychological deficit on my part, that I associate these pleasant memories and fanciful songs with the dystopian space-libertarianism of EVE Online.
I still watch Lilo and Stitch from time to time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmdx7C_R6rA
Lilo is so disturbing, lying about being beaten with bricks to a Social Worker, and she just goes to town on some kids face with her fist.
So glad Disney grew a pair. |

Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
255
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Posted - 2011.11.10 12:41:00 -
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Dyner wrote:Tallian Saotome wrote:Dyner wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:Pathetic is one of the words that can pretty much describe you guys. Spacerich is another word that can describe us. Thanks for helping out with that. Goonswarm, we are the 0.01% :P Your all the females in eve? Someone hasn't been made aware of the Occupy Protest  I am aware, but I am also aware the in eve, the 1% worth mention is the female population of our fair universe. 
Dam, I just realized how twisted and kinky this game really is  o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |

Archare
SKEET ELITE
1
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Posted - 2011.11.10 13:37:00 -
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to the OP This could be you!
tho i hear goons charge 250 mil to join as a spai |
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Amara Jade
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2011.11.10 13:56:00 -
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Quote:I feel it is necessary to defend my good name.
You were in possession of 48k contraband Oxygen Isotopes, hasn't anyone told you about Gallente ice?
Regardless though, I'm the victim here - I never have and never will scam anyone, and now I have to go through my eve life (because eve is real) always looking over my shoulder for when you decide to spend more isk on this incident because of a misunderstanding and faked chatlogs (since when do I type 400 words per minute?). In the words of the Father, :cripes:
Quote:Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nyx
From: Acwron To: Amara Jade INBOX Remove Label
I'll tell you that then : I will hire people ( mercenaries ), track you down ( you know, there's some locators that helps with that ) and will pop the Nyx, whatever alts you have related to this character. I have isk, alot of isk...And I don't like being scammed.
For that reason I will spend alot to see you going down.
So if you wanna prove that you did not want to scam me, send me back the isk or fly my ******* Nyx back to Period Basis. I proved that I was honest and gave you the Nyx, now it's your turn.
Looking forward to solve it in a nice way otherwise will be the highway. |

Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
277
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Posted - 2011.11.10 14:07:00 -
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Selling The Mittani and Amara Jade corpses 1b each payment to be received beforehand |

Konno Yoshiho
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2011.11.10 14:20:00 -
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AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Dear CCP,
Those evil Goonies said they would only stick the tip in. But they lied and went balls deep. Now my ***** hurts. My ***** hurts bad. Please, please make my ***** feel better.
P.S. I was also promised a cuddle and breakfast. All I got was a pat on the head and a Pop-Tart. This injustice will not stand!
Love Admiral Thrawn.
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proxwar
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.11.10 14:25:00 -
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My mind boggles at the amount of people still unaware of how honestly challenged all of the goons are.
Seriously, anyone who still gets scammed by them deserve it tbh.
P.S.
I will kill and pod Mittens and deliver the corspe personally for just 1b, payment upfront of course. |

AdmiraI Thrawn
Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance
2
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Posted - 2011.11.10 14:25:00 -
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Amara Jade wrote:Quote:I feel it is necessary to defend my good name. You were in possession of 48k contraband Oxygen Isotopes, hasn't anyone told you about Gallente ice? Regardless though, I'm the victim here - I never have and never will scam anyone, and now I have to go through my eve life (because eve is real) always looking over my shoulder for when you decide to spend more isk on this incident because of a misunderstanding and faked chatlogs (since when do I type 400 words per minute?). In the words of the Father, :cripes: Quote:Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nyx
From: Acwron To: Amara Jade INBOX Remove Label
I'll tell you that then : I will hire people ( mercenaries ), track you down ( you know, there's some locators that helps with that ) and will pop the Nyx, whatever alts you have related to this character. I have isk, alot of isk...And I don't like being scammed.
For that reason I will spend alot to see you going down.
So if you wanna prove that you did not want to scam me, send me back the isk or fly my ******* Nyx back to Period Basis. I proved that I was honest and gave you the Nyx, now it's your turn.
Looking forward to solve it in a nice way otherwise will be the highway.
LOL fake chat logs ! Why should I ever waste time to fake some logs for the benefit of whom? You even had the guts to ask for 5 more bil to give me back my Nyx. 5 bil which ofc would've been wasted as well.
At least you didn't fake my email, what's in there is written by me. I have reasons to believe that you are connected to the High Master CSM Chairman. If you are not and want to prove wrong, do what I asked, do what I did : I did trust you and delivered the Nyx to you with the fit I specified on forum, you do the same for me : then I will send you thru Chribba or Darknesss 10 bil back so we can split the loss.
Otherwise, as I stated : there are always mercenaries to hire, there are always people who hate goons...Sooner or later you will go down. Not for 20 bil, it's not about isk, it's just because I hate scammers. |

Borlag Crendraven
EVE University Ivy League
9
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Posted - 2011.11.10 14:52:00 -
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AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:Otherwise, as I stated : there are always mercenaries to hire, there are always people who hate goons...Sooner or later you will go down. Not for 20 bil, it's not about isk, it's just because I hate scammers.
So, not only do you lose 20B by falling for the scam, you'll now lose even more to try and get back. Should we expect another thead like this titled "mercenaries stole 5B from me and didn't kill Mittani or that other guy like I asked"? |

Phoenix Kar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2011.11.10 14:57:00 -
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Not to worry, mr Thrawn sir. I found indisputable evidence that should restore your sense of self-worth and pride! |

Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
257
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Posted - 2011.11.10 15:10:00 -
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AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:Otherwise, as I stated : there are always mercenaries to hire, there are always people who hate goons...Sooner or later you will go down. Not for 20 bil, it's not about isk, it's just because I hate scammers.
I'm pretty sure he will get some Mittens corpses if he hires mercs to get him some. Most of those merc corps will do what they are paid for if they take the job.
ofc, there is a fair chance they will just buy the corpses from him  o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |

MissyFire
Texas Deep Space Texas.
0
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Posted - 2011.11.10 15:16:00 -
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I want to thank the OP and all the poster children in this thread.
I may have laughed so hard I pee'd myself just a little! |

AdmiraI Thrawn
Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance
3
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Posted - 2011.11.10 15:17:00 -
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Borlag Crendraven wrote:AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:Otherwise, as I stated : there are always mercenaries to hire, there are always people who hate goons...Sooner or later you will go down. Not for 20 bil, it's not about isk, it's just because I hate scammers. So, not only do you lose 20B by falling for the scam, you'll now lose even more to try and get back. Should we expect another thead like this titled "mercenaries stole 5B from me and didn't kill Mittani or that other guy like I asked"?
I think the mercenaries will do what they're asked for, otherwise they wouldn't build the reputation as good mercenaries...I don't care about Mittani as a person...he proves that he is just a small crook...a goon leader to set such a scam is a tiny little sad fecktard. That's all. I will follow my principles : Who fucks with me better be ready for a long ****...Cos I wanna **** his brains out ^^ |
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Doctor Ungabungas
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
39
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Posted - 2011.11.10 15:20:00 -
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AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:Borlag Crendraven wrote:AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:Otherwise, as I stated : there are always mercenaries to hire, there are always people who hate goons...Sooner or later you will go down. Not for 20 bil, it's not about isk, it's just because I hate scammers. So, not only do you lose 20B by falling for the scam, you'll now lose even more to try and get back. Should we expect another thead like this titled "mercenaries stole 5B from me and didn't kill Mittani or that other guy like I asked"? I think the mercenaries will do what they're asked for, otherwise they wouldn't build the reputation as good mercenaries...I don't care about Mittani as a person...he proves that he is just a small crook...a goon leader to set such a scam is a tiny little sad fecktard. That's all. I will follow my principles : Who fucks with me better be ready for a long ****...Cos I wanna **** his brains out ^^
If you want mittani corpses just come to a goon fleet fight, we all gotta die sometime.
You can grab one and **** it senseless. I'll hook you up with a pre-prepared one for a small fee. |

Borlag Crendraven
EVE University Ivy League
9
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Posted - 2011.11.10 15:22:00 -
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AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:I think the mercenaries will do what they're asked for, otherwise they wouldn't build the reputation as good mercenaries...I don't care about Mittani as a person...he proves that he is just a small crook...a goon leader to set such a scam is a tiny little sad fecktard. That's all. I will follow my principles : Who fucks with me better be ready for a long ****...Cos I wanna **** his brains out ^^
Of course, but based on this thread and all your responses to it, it doesn't seem like you learnt your lesson which is never trust anyone blindly. If you'd handle hiring the mercenaries like you handled this trade, you could just as well hire Mittani himself to deliver a corpse for you. Then again that would just make this even more hilarious, you hiring some goons alt to handle the mercenary contract. |

Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2011.11.10 15:33:00 -
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the csm is not nothing! the csm heard the fury of the multitude, and killed incarna for all of us you ungrateful git
stupid incarna lovin pedestrians |

AdmiraI Thrawn
Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance
3
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Posted - 2011.11.10 15:34:00 -
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Borlag Crendraven wrote:AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:I think the mercenaries will do what they're asked for, otherwise they wouldn't build the reputation as good mercenaries...I don't care about Mittani as a person...he proves that he is just a small crook...a goon leader to set such a scam is a tiny little sad fecktard. That's all. I will follow my principles : Who fucks with me better be ready for a long ****...Cos I wanna **** his brains out ^^ Of course, but based on this thread and all your responses to it, it doesn't seem like you learnt your lesson which is never trust anyone blindly. If you'd handle hiring the mercenaries like you handled this trade, you could just as well hire Mittani himself to deliver a corpse for you. Then again that would just make this even more hilarious, you hiring some goons alt to handle the mercenary contract.
I lost some internet space money, he lost his dignity...if he ever had any. I will never be mad at me for trusting someone. If you do a mistake once, it's ok...if you do it twice then you might be stupid. |

Borlag Crendraven
EVE University Ivy League
9
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Posted - 2011.11.10 15:39:00 -
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That's just it, he didn't lose anything. Everyone who follow what's going on around the game knows about him and his reputation both in game and in the CSM. If you'd look around this thread, you'd quickly see that you're the only one in the dark about that. |

Din'stalor Alaric
BOAE INC BricK sQuAD.
24
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Posted - 2011.11.10 15:41:00 -
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TL:DR - You got scammed by a goon, nothing new here.
Simple scam, Buyer contacts seller. They agree price and buyer suggests 3rd party. 3rd party confirms isk sent. Nyx is transfered. Everyone goes home.
Problem - 3rd party and buyer knew each other. No isk was sent, 3rd party lies, and buyer gets a free Nyx. Seller gets butt hurt and cries to CCP and C&P.
Time to move on.
Nice scam btw. |

AdmiraI Thrawn
Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance
3
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Posted - 2011.11.10 16:24:00 -
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Din'stalor Alaric wrote:TL:DR - You got scammed by a goon, nothing new here.
Simple scam, Buyer contacts seller. They agree price and buyer suggests 3rd party. 3rd party confirms isk sent. Nyx is transfered. Everyone goes home.
Problem - 3rd party and buyer knew each other. No isk was sent, 3rd party lies, and buyer gets a free Nyx. Seller gets butt hurt and cries to CCP and C&P.
Time to move on.
Nice scam btw.
I was indeed tricked by the CSM thing. Why do they have that CSM **** on their avatar? Cos as far as I understand, they are a bunch of nobodies...why CCP gave them that CSM thingie? I got scammed cos of it. Thank you CCP...I'm looking forward to move along to a better game, you can freeze in Iceland :))
btw : Why they didn't set some sort of a contract that could be made for Supers and Titans? I mean, for a freaking frigate u can set up a contract and cannot be scammed...but for a Super or Titan, you have to trust a 3rd party...So where I have to buy/sell a big ship which involves quite a big amount of money, there is no guarantee like a contract or so. What if Chribba decides for once"Not giving ISK to the Seller" day. Would you ever believe the seller? Ofc not, Chribba never scams ! Even if he does it :)
They allow and also control the chaos. For some reason, they think it must be good. |

Max50
Parental Control Merciless.
1
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Posted - 2011.11.10 16:24:00 -
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Whats that CSM everyone is talking about? |

Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
77
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Posted - 2011.11.10 16:28:00 -
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It should be a crime to own a supercap and not read the forums.
+1 for this trusted third party service.
(It's actually a third party humor service, and it never disappoints) I have no tears to cry. |

Lunas Whisper
Chillwater Ltd Imperial Ascension
12
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Posted - 2011.11.10 16:29:00 -
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Nemesis Factor wrote:AdmiraI Thrawn wrote:The Mittani, I petitioned you, it should be there in game logs anyway so you better give the isk. If not, I hope CCP can investigate and see if Amara Jade was involved or not in the scam and reimburse me. I can't imagine how you feel, I have never even seen 3 billion isk, but I would get sick to my stomach if I even lost one. But I really don't see them fixing this. It's happened over and over, and is a legitimate part of the game. There is NO ONE you can trust implicitly in this game. If you understand that and believe it, you cannot honestly petition the scam. Next time wait for Chribba to log in.
If you have the bil to buy the ship, you have the time in the game to know, do not trust goons. You have the time in the game to know, that Chribba is the 3rd party you trust. You also know darn well, that scams, theft, betrayal, griefing, are an integral part of the game. |
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