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AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 06:47:00 - [1] - Quote Channel ID: -26188450 Channel Name: Group Chat (Acwron, Amara Jade) Listener: AdmiraI Thrawn Session started: 2011.11.10 05:59:49 n++[ 2011.11.10 06:00:00 ] Acwron > it is my alt n++[ 2011.11.10 06:00:07 ] Acwron > but it's better anyway n++[ 2011.11.10 06:01:09 ] The Mittani > o7 n++[ 2011.11.10 06:01:20 ] Acwron > o/ n++[ 2011.11.10 06:01:24 ] Amara Jade > Hello The Mittani, thanks again for 3rd partying my erebus, found a nyx I'd like to buy if you're free n++[ 2011.11.10 06:01:35 ] Acwron > If I get scammed by a CSM, will be a first wouldn't it? :) n++[ 2011.11.10 06:01:44 ] The Mittani > Very well n++[ 2011.11.10 06:01:54 ] The Mittani > what's the purchase price n++[ 2011.11.10 06:02:06 ] Acwron > 20 bil n++[ 2011.11.10 06:02:08 ] Amara Jade > 20b for fit w/100k fuel and bombers/fighters, right acw? n++[ 2011.11.10 06:02:15 ] Acwron > yea n++[ 2011.11.10 06:02:20 ] The Mittani > My fee for these is usually 250m isk n++[ 2011.11.10 06:02:21 ] Acwron > setele sebo also n++[ 2011.11.10 06:02:32 ] Amara Jade > I get a discount because you sold my other ship right? n++[ 2011.11.10 06:02:39 ] Amara Jade > regardless I'm paying it n++[ 2011.11.10 06:02:41 ] The Mittani > ahahaha no ;p n++[ 2011.11.10 06:02:53 ] Amara Jade > oh fine (grumble) n++[ 2011.11.10 06:02:59 ] The Mittani > if you're spending 20b and worrying about my fee, you've got problems ;p n++[ 2011.11.10 06:03:08 ] Amara Jade > i'll send 20b 250m once I get to the system n++[ 2011.11.10 06:03:36 ] The Mittani > ok, so amara's paying, who will be handing over the nyx? i see four of us in here n++[ 2011.11.10 06:03:40 ] Amara Jade > 11 jumps out n++[ 2011.11.10 06:06:20 ] Acwron > The Mittani you shouldn't be there also to check the fit and see if it's right? n++[ 2011.11.10 06:06:43 ] The Mittani > that's not how this usually works, no. i just hold the isk to ensure no one gets scammed n++[ 2011.11.10 06:07:14 ] The Mittani > basically the buyer sends me the isk, i confirm that the isk is there n++[ 2011.11.10 06:07:24 ] Acwron > well, abit different but I don't mind n++[ 2011.11.10 06:07:26 ] The Mittani > the seller hands over the ship, the buyer confirms that the ship is what he wanted n++[ 2011.11.10 06:07:41 ] Acwron > aye n++[ 2011.11.10 06:07:43 ] Acwron > np n++[ 2011.11.10 06:08:15 ] The Mittani > if both parties are happy I hand the isk over, and if someone tries something funny I return the isk to the buyer; if the buyer doesn't pay, obviously the seller doesn't hand over the ship n++[ 2011.11.10 06:08:16 ] Amara Jade > 5 jumps n++[ 2011.11.10 06:08:36 ] The Mittani > i might be half-afk, i'm playing some tanks right now n++[ 2011.11.10 06:09:24 ] Acwron > lol n++[ 2011.11.10 06:09:33 ] Amara Jade > invited thrawn to fleet so I can go to him (assume you are safespotted) n++[ 2011.11.10 06:10:00 ] Acwron > After you send the isk you can fleet me n++[ 2011.11.10 06:10:05 ] Amara Jade > sounds good n++[ 2011.11.10 06:10:18 ] Amara Jade > sending the isk now (3 jumps out) n++[ 2011.11.10 06:10:38 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > Mittani pls confirm so I can fleet Amara n++[ 2011.11.10 06:10:44 ] The Mittani > ugh i just started this round n++[ 2011.11.10 06:10:48 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > lol n++[ 2011.11.10 06:11:01 ] The Mittani > confirmed, 20b 250m fee received n++[ 2011.11.10 06:11:07 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > ok m8 n++[ 2011.11.10 06:11:13 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > fleet me when u wanty n++[ 2011.11.10 06:11:19 ] The Mittani > i assume 'morning mist' is your alt, amara n++[ 2011.11.10 06:11:29 ] The Mittani > assuming some completely random person didn't send me 20b isk for the **** of it n++[ 2011.11.10 06:11:37 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > ahahaha n++[ 2011.11.10 06:11:39 ] Amara Jade > haha n++[ 2011.11.10 06:12:08 ] Amara Jade > 1.5 jumps out, how's local look? n++[ 2011.11.10 06:12:18 ] The Mittani > you should specify who's sending isk next time you do a super trade, just for future reference n++[ 2011.11.10 06:12:19 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > 10 in local, nothing on scan n++[ 2011.11.10 06:12:29 ] Amara Jade > okay n++[ 2011.11.10 06:12:33 ] The Mittani > back to tanks, let me know when the transfer takes place so I can confirm the sale n++[ 2011.11.10 06:12:44 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > in a min I guess n++[ 2011.11.10 06:13:00 ] Amara Jade > warping to hoth stargate now n++[ 2011.11.10 06:13:02 ] The Mittani > no rush, i'm on MY PANTHER II n++[ 2011.11.10 06:13:12 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > :D n++[ 2011.11.10 06:13:30 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > damn tanks, everybody plays it, I should too n++[ 2011.11.10 06:13:39 ] Amara Jade > warping to you n++[ 2011.11.10 06:13:45 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > ok m8 n++[ 2011.11.10 06:14:34 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > I'm off the ship n++[ 2011.11.10 06:15:01 ] Amara Jade > confirmed in ship n++[ 2011.11.10 06:15:16 ] The Mittani > check the modules n++[ 2011.11.10 06:15:25 ] The Mittani > let me know everything's cool n++[ 2011.11.10 06:15:30 ] Amara Jade > getting to safe n++[ 2011.11.10 06:15:34 ] Amara Jade > fittings are good n++[ 2011.11.10 06:15:56 ] The Mittani > death2allsupercaps n++[ 2011.11.10 06:16:45 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > ok, so everything is cool n++[ 2011.11.10 06:16:52 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > awaiting for isk n++[ 2011.11.10 06:17:44 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > is it me or this is a scam? n++[ 2011.11.10 06:17:51 ] Amara Jade > where did he go? n++[ 2011.11.10 06:17:59 ] Amara Jade > one second maybe he disconnected n++[ 2011.11.10 06:18:02 ] Amara Jade > i'll evemail him n++[ 2011.11.10 06:18:03 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > well, you should know n++[ 2011.11.10 06:18:05 ] Amara Jade > please do the same n++[ 2011.11.10 06:18:58 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > He logged off n++[ 2011.11.10 06:19:39 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > I think I just got scammed
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 06:48:00 - [2] - Quote [ 2011.11.10 06:21:59 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > Amara, you there? n++[ 2011.11.10 06:22:52 ] Amara Jade > yeah sorry n++[ 2011.11.10 06:22:56 ] Amara Jade > trying to get ahold of him n++[ 2011.11.10 06:23:05 ] Amara Jade > tried evemailing from a neutral alt n++[ 2011.11.10 06:23:08 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > doesn't look good to me n++[ 2011.11.10 06:23:47 ] Amara Jade > if he doesn't send the isk by tomorrow i'll split the loss with you rather than you shouldering all of it n++[ 2011.11.10 06:24:00 ] Amara Jade > he didn't steal my erebus so why would he steal nyx money? n++[ 2011.11.10 06:24:19 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > I dunno m8 but I just want my 20 bil n++[ 2011.11.10 06:24:38 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > you recommended him n++[ 2011.11.10 06:24:53 ] Amara Jade > well if I give it to you then I might be out 20b n++[ 2011.11.10 06:25:03 ] Amara Jade > I understand its partially my fault for recommending him n++[ 2011.11.10 06:25:06 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > I'm already out of 20 bil n++[ 2011.11.10 06:25:09 ] Amara Jade > but I shouldn't have to shoulder all the loss n++[ 2011.11.10 06:25:15 ] Amara Jade > how about 25/75 n++[ 2011.11.10 06:25:47 ] Amara Jade > i'll jump out of it once you send me 5b so I only lose 15b if he doesn't come back n++[ 2011.11.10 06:25:54 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > m8, it's your fault for this, I was perfectly fair and handed the ship with the fit and stuff n++[ 2011.11.10 06:26:00 ] Amara Jade > I know n++[ 2011.11.10 06:26:03 ] Amara Jade > and im really sorry n++[ 2011.11.10 06:26:09 ] Amara Jade > but I don't want to lose 20b n++[ 2011.11.10 06:26:11 ] Amara Jade > either n++[ 2011.11.10 06:26:16 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > sorry is not enough m8 n++[ 2011.11.10 06:26:19 ] Amara Jade > willing to eat 15b because I still think he'll come back n++[ 2011.11.10 06:26:21 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > I need the isk n++[ 2011.11.10 06:26:52 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > I will have you and him reported and post on forums with the convo's n++[ 2011.11.10 06:27:18 ] Amara Jade > hey, I didn't do anything wrong n++[ 2011.11.10 06:27:26 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > I understand the scamming but this is far beyond the limit n++[ 2011.11.10 06:27:32 ] Amara Jade > he didn't steal big, I had no reason to believe he'd steal small n++[ 2011.11.10 06:27:44 ] Amara Jade > don't screw me over, i'm trying to work with you here n++[ 2011.11.10 06:27:47 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > is he really a CSM ? n++[ 2011.11.10 06:27:51 ] Amara Jade > yes n++[ 2011.11.10 06:28:03 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > why would he do this for then? n++[ 2011.11.10 06:28:25 ] Amara Jade > http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-09-05-eve-csm-chairman-breaks-the-peace n++[ 2011.11.10 06:28:34 ] Amara Jade > no idea n++[ 2011.11.10 06:28:39 ] Amara Jade > still think it was a connection problem n++[ 2011.11.10 06:29:00 ] Amara Jade > your choice if you want to wait for him or hold your ship and i'll wait for him n++[ 2011.11.10 06:29:19 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > I can wait but this really looks like scam n++[ 2011.11.10 06:30:19 ] AdmiraI Thrawn > I can't believe it's happening
The Mittani GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2008	Posted - 2011.11.10 06:54:00 - [3] - Quote Such shameful lies, such obviously faked logs. Tsk, tsk. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues
Covert Kitty SRS Industries SRS. 29	Posted - 2011.11.10 06:55:00 - [4] - Quote lol
Jada Maroo Mysterium Astrometrics BRABODEN 418	Posted - 2011.11.10 06:55:00 - [5] - Quote Is it normal? Yes. Should he be allowed to use his position as CSM head to imply a sort of legitimacy and aid in his scams? No. Not only is it lazy and effortless, it gives him an edge over other scammers.
Katrina Oniseki Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 147	Posted - 2011.11.10 06:56:00 - [6] - Quote Not content to let just any old goon scam him, this guy goes straight to the top. You've got style, I suppose.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 106	Posted - 2011.11.10 06:57:00 - [7] - Quote In many ways I feel like all of us got scammed by Mittani. Just haven't figured out how.
Kengutsi Akira Ministry of War Amarr Empire 153	Posted - 2011.11.10 06:58:00 - [8] - Quote yes, "Goonswarm" But especially if you are CCP https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=255722#post255722 My stance on WiS
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 06:58:00 - [9] - Quote The Mittani, I petitioned you, it should be there in game logs anyway so you better give the isk. If not, I hope CCP can investigate and see if Amara Jade was involved or not in the scam and reimburse me.
DR SOL The Strapons Swollen Starfish Alliance 117	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:00:00 - [10] - Quote i can confirm that The Mittani is a scam artist , he once touched me in a private place and didn't pay me

Nemesis Factor Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 16	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:01:00 - [11] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: The Mittani, I petitioned you, it should be there in game logs anyway so you better give the isk. If not, I hope CCP can investigate and see if Amara Jade was involved or not in the scam and reimburse me. I can't imagine how you feel, I have never even seen 3 billion isk, but I would get sick to my stomach if I even lost one. But I really don't see them fixing this. It's happened over and over, and is a legitimate part of the game. There is NO ONE you can trust implicitly in this game. If you understand that and believe it, you cannot honestly petition the scam. Next time wait for Chribba to log in.
Poetic Stanziel Arrakis Technology 244	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:01:00 - [12] - Quote Quote: [ 2011.11.10 06:15:56 ] The Mittani > death2allsupercaps As soon as he wrote that, everyone should have known the jig was up. LOL! EVE Online: Incarna - New Coke EVE Online: Winter Expansion - Coke Classic
Lord Mandelor Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble. 45	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:02:00 - [13] - Quote Pfffffft hahahahaha. So YOU'RE the guy I've heard so much about! Who on earth buys a Nyx outside of contract? CCP will look at that petition and probably send Mittens a congratulations. ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware.
leviticus ander The Scope Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:03:00 - [14] - Quote dude, he may be CSM. but he's still a goon. and I'm just come to the conclusion that they are just backstabbing bastards, and not to be trusted with the 1 trit that comes with a noob ship.
Katrina Oniseki Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 147	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:03:00 - [15] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: The Mittani, I petitioned you, it should be there in game logs anyway so you better give the isk. If not, I hope CCP can investigate and see if Amara Jade was involved or not in the scam and reimburse me. The petition won't help, because he didn't break any rules. Sorry. By the way, CSM are just players who communicate with the devs, not CCP employees bound by a code of ethics. They do have ingame restrictions, like following NDA and not trying to profit off future changes to the game. (For example, if Mittani knew that, say, Scrap Metal was suddenly going to be made to refine into Megacyte , and he bought up a **** ton of Scrap Metal to sell, he would get banned.) Making a profit off overtrusting people with too much ISK however... that's fair game.
Katrina Oniseki Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 147	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:04:00 - [16] - Quote Lord Mandelor wrote: Pfffffft hahahahaha. So YOU'RE the guy I've heard so much about! Who on earth buys a Nyx outside of contract? CCP will look at that petition and probably send Mittens a congratulations. Care to explain how you're going to get a Nyx into a contract if you can't dock with it?
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 366	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:04:00 - [17] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: The Mittani, I petitioned you, it should be there in game logs anyway so you better give the isk. If not, I hope CCP can investigate and see if Amara Jade was involved or not in the scam and reimburse me. Why would they reimburse you. You are allowed to scam people in this game. There are no rules that say a CSM can not scam you. There are no rules that even say they they are trust worthy because they are a CSM then Scam you. Unless you can produce logs that has the Mittani saying "I can't scam you because I am not allowed as I work for CCP"(Not allowed to mislead people by pretending to be on CCP Staff) then there is nothing they can do.
Kietay Ayari Monopoly Money Operations 27	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:04:00 - [18] - Quote Jada Maroo wrote: Is it normal? Yes. Should he be allowed to use his position as CSM head to imply a sort of legitimacy and aid in his scams? No. Not only is it lazy and effortless, it gives him an edge over other scammers. Why not? Doesn't anyone who is deemed reliable enough to be a third party use some kind of background to prove they are trustworthy? Metagame go! It does give him an edge, but it is something you have to work for to get ;D Ferox #1
Poetic Stanziel Arrakis Technology 244	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:05:00 - [19] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: In many ways I feel like all of us got scammed by Mittani. Just haven't figured out how. It's all right here. He's forcing CCPs hand. Forcing them to change the face of the game forever. Forcing them to carebear it up. :) EVE Online: Incarna - New Coke EVE Online: Winter Expansion - Coke Classic
ACE McFACE Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 59	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:07:00 - [20] - Quote Clearly fake, The Mittani doesnt say Pubbie once Also: Theres been an influx of chat logs in GD recently ZE GOGGLES, ZEY DO NOTHING! (Not wearing them so don't waste your time reading this sig)

The Mittani GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2010	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:08:00 - [21] - Quote ACE McFACE wrote: Clearly fake, The Mittani doesnt say Pubbie once Also: Theres been an influx of chat logs in GD recently It's obviously fake because I would never say o7 without o7o7o7o7o77m8m8m8 for extra irony. I do not scam. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues
Lord Mandelor Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble. 45	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:08:00 - [22] - Quote Poetic Stanziel wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: In many ways I feel like all of us got scammed by Mittani. Just haven't figured out how. It's all right here. He's forcing CCPs hand. Forcing them to change the face of the game forever. Forcing them to carebear it up. :) Stop trying to turn a hysterical scam into a tinfoil hat thread, it's rude. ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware.
Poetic Stanziel Arrakis Technology 244	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:09:00 - [23] - Quote Lord Mandelor wrote: Poetic Stanziel wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: In many ways I feel like all of us got scammed by Mittani. Just haven't figured out how. It's all right here. He's forcing CCPs hand. Forcing them to change the face of the game forever. Forcing them to carebear it up. :) Stop trying to turn a hysterical scam into a tinfoil hat thread, it's rude. I put a damned smiley! :) EVE Online: Incarna - New Coke EVE Online: Winter Expansion - Coke Classic
WhyTry1 Ministry of War Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:10:00 - [24] - Quote CCP don't care...the allow csm To abuse their position - shameful https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=22324&find=unread
KrakizBad Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension 54	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:10:00 - [25] - Quote Poetic Stanziel wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: In many ways I feel like all of us got scammed by Mittani. Just haven't figured out how. It's all right here. He's forcing CCPs hand. Forcing them to change the face of the game forever. Forcing them to carebear it up. :) You must be kidding with that. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39006524/DumbHiseccers.jpg
Katrina Oniseki Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 148	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:10:00 - [26] - Quote Poetic Stanziel wrote: Lord Mandelor wrote: Poetic Stanziel wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: In many ways I feel like all of us got scammed by Mittani. Just haven't figured out how. It's all right here. He's forcing CCPs hand. Forcing them to change the face of the game forever. Forcing them to carebear it up. :) Stop trying to turn a hysterical scam into a tinfoil hat thread, it's rude. I put a damned smiley! :) :)
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:10:00 - [27] - Quote ACE McFACE wrote: Clearly fake, The Mittani doesnt say Pubbie once Also: Theres been an influx of chat logs in GD recently I wrote a fake huge log quite fast, didn't I ? I hope CCP does something about it.
Zirse Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 126	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:10:00 - [28] - Quote Poetic Stanziel wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: In many ways I feel like all of us got scammed by Mittani. Just haven't figured out how. It's all right here. He's forcing CCPs hand. Forcing them to change the face of the game forever. Forcing them to carebear it up. :) Stop linking your crappy blog already.
Poetic Stanziel Arrakis Technology 244	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:11:00 - [29] - Quote The Mittani wrote: I do not scam. Damned Anti-Chribba. GÇá GÇá GÇá GÇá GÇá Butts!! -+ -+ -+ -+ -+ EVE Online: Incarna - New Coke EVE Online: Winter Expansion - Coke Classic
Kengutsi Akira Ministry of War Amarr Empire 153	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:13:00 - [30] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: The Mittani, I petitioned you, it should be there in game logs anyway so you better give the isk. If not, I hope CCP can investigate and see if Amara Jade was involved or not in the scam and reimburse me. Why would they reimburse you. You are allowed to scam people in this game. There are no rules that say a CSM can not scam you. There are no rules that even say they they are trust worthy because they are a CSM then Scam you. Unless you can produce logs that has the Mittani saying "I can't scam you because I am not allowed as I work for CCP"(Not allowed to mislead people by pretending to be on CCP Staff) then there is nothing they can do. Hell theres no rule saying they even have to do whats good for EVE. But people THINK there is lol https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=255722#post255722 My stance on WiS

Sarmatiko 163	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:15:00 - [31] - Quote OP for 250m I will return your Nyx to you
Poetic Stanziel Arrakis Technology 244	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:15:00 - [32] - Quote KrakizBad wrote: You must be kidding with that. Not the part about CCP wishing to carebear up the game (there's more than enough evidence that's happening). Sort of kidding, with respect to The Mittani forcing them into a position to carebear the game. It wouldn't surprise me if he told us all that it was his grand plan ... but without EVE where would he go to get the sort of attention and reverence he gets out of this game? So yeah, mainly a fun way to end the post. Tinfoil is fun!! EVE Online: Incarna - New Coke EVE Online: Winter Expansion - Coke Classic
Kengutsi Akira Ministry of War Amarr Empire 153	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:16:00 - [33] - Quote The Mittani wrote: ACE McFACE wrote: Clearly fake, The Mittani doesnt say Pubbie once Also: Theres been an influx of chat logs in GD recently It's obviously fake because I would never say o7 without o7o7o7o7o77m8m8m8 for extra irony. I do not scam. wth, why havent you tapped a mod on the shoulder an gotten this thread locked? Or at least the chatlogs snipped, as theyre against forum rules lol Poetic Stanziel wrote: KrakizBad wrote: You must be kidding with that. Not the part about CCP wishing to carebear up the game (there's more than enough evidence that's happening). Sort of kidding, with respect to The Mittani forcing them into a position to carebear the game. It wouldn't surprise me if he told us all that it was his grand plan ... but without EVE where would he go to get the sort of attention and reverence he gets out of this game? So yeah, mainly a fun way to end the post. Tinfoil is fun!! Uh, yeah it was... What better way to break the game than to force CCP to break it for them? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=255722#post255722 My stance on WiS
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 366	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:16:00 - [34] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: I wrote a fake huge log quite fast, didn't I ? I hope CCP does something about it. They will reimburse you with something better then ISK, laughter Because when times are hard Laughter is the best medicine. In fact lets all laugh.
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:19:00 - [35] - Quote Channel ID: -26188450 Channel Name: Group Chat (Acwron, Amara Jade) Listener: AdmiraI Thrawn Session started: 2011.11.10 05:59:49 I think CCP can track down this convo quite easily. I hope this guy is going down or I get reimbursement. What is CSM doing for us anyway? Scamming? CCP, is this real ???
Kengutsi Akira Ministry of War Amarr Empire 153	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:22:00 - [36] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Channel ID: -26188450 Channel Name: Group Chat (Acwron, Amara Jade) Listener: AdmiraI Thrawn Session started: 2011.11.10 05:59:49 I think CCP can track down this convo quite easily. I hope this guy is going down or I get reimbursement. What is CSM doing for us anyway? Scamming? CCP, is this real ??? Hence, why they should disband it, take the wasted money and put it back into the game. A few pennies for WiS maybe. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=255722#post255722 My stance on WiS
Katrina Oniseki Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 148	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:22:00 - [37] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Channel ID: -26188450 Channel Name: Group Chat (Acwron, Amara Jade) Listener: AdmiraI Thrawn Session started: 2011.11.10 05:59:49 I think CCP can track down this convo quite easily. I hope this guy is going down or I get reimbursement. What is CSM doing for us anyway? Scamming? CCP, is this real ??? Are you dense or just trolling? It's already been said multiple times in this thread, nothing can be done. You fell for a scam. There are *NO RULES* preventing a CSM member from scamming.
Lord Zeel Port Royal Buccaneers 3	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:23:00 - [38] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Channel ID: -26188450 Channel Name: Group Chat (Acwron, Amara Jade) Listener: AdmiraI Thrawn Session started: 2011.11.10 05:59:49 I think CCP can track down this convo quite easily. I hope this guy is going down or I get reimbursement. What is CSM doing for us anyway? Scamming? CCP, is this real ??? Well, they can't scam the recruitment channel anymore so why not use a CSM tag to scam?
leviticus ander The Scope Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:24:00 - [39] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: ACE McFACE wrote: Clearly fake, The Mittani doesnt say Pubbie once Also: Theres been an influx of chat logs in GD recently I wrote a fake huge log quite fast, didn't I ? I hope CCP does something about it. I could easily write that in the time you had between the times it shows and the time you posted it. especially considering you could have just done it an hour or 2 ahead of time and just put the numbers in accordingly ahead of time. however, I would say that it looks legit aside from not knowing people normal typing habits. either way, you still got legitimately scammed, and are unfortunately out a lot of money.
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 366	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:24:00 - [40] - Quote Katrina Oniseki wrote: Are you dense or just trolling? It's already been said multiple times in this thread, nothing can be done. You fell for a scam. There are *NO RULES* preventing a CSM member from scamming. I think I see why he got scammed.

Sarmatiko 164	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:25:00 - [41] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: What is CSM doing for us anyway? Scamming? CCP, is this real ??? Yes we voted for mittens just for the lulz and scams like this. You have to live with that.
Ladie Harlot GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 879	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:26:00 - [42] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: I hope CCP does something about it. Something other than laugh at your petition? The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Poetic Stanziel Arrakis Technology 244	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:26:00 - [43] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Channel ID: -26188450 Channel Name: Group Chat (Acwron, Amara Jade) Listener: AdmiraI Thrawn Session started: 2011.11.10 05:59:49 I think CCP can track down this convo quite easily. I hope this guy is going down or I get reimbursement. What is CSM doing for us anyway? Scamming? CCP, is this real ??? Dude. He scammed someone out of some ungodly amount of ISK a couple weeks ago over an Erebus. If you're making such a large transaction through a broker you know nothing about ... holy **** dude ... do a little research. One post here with the subject "I want to sell a Nyx. Can Mittani be trusted as a broker" you would have had your answer in about 30 seconds. People would have also pointed you to Chribba (who can be trusted). Whatever you do, don't put a damned bounty on Mittani's head. That's just giving him more free money. EVE Online: Incarna - New Coke EVE Online: Winter Expansion - Coke Classic
Ladie Harlot GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 879	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:29:00 - [44] - Quote Chribba scammed me once. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Poetic Stanziel Arrakis Technology 244	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:29:00 - [45] - Quote Ladie Harlot wrote: Chribba scammed me once. Yeah, in the back seat of a Buick. EVE Online: Incarna - New Coke EVE Online: Winter Expansion - Coke Classic
Kengutsi Akira Ministry of War Amarr Empire 153	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:30:00 - [46] - Quote Katrina Oniseki wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Channel ID: -26188450 Channel Name: Group Chat (Acwron, Amara Jade) Listener: AdmiraI Thrawn Session started: 2011.11.10 05:59:49 I think CCP can track down this convo quite easily. I hope this guy is going down or I get reimbursement. What is CSM doing for us anyway? Scamming? CCP, is this real ??? Are you dense or just trolling? It's already been said multiple times in this thread, nothing can be done. You fell for a scam. There are *NO RULES* preventing a CSM member from scamming. YET Given the way theyre going who knows https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=255722#post255722 My stance on WiS
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:31:00 - [47] - Quote Katrina Oniseki wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Channel ID: -26188450 Channel Name: Group Chat (Acwron, Amara Jade) Listener: AdmiraI Thrawn Session started: 2011.11.10 05:59:49 I think CCP can track down this convo quite easily. I hope this guy is going down or I get reimbursement. What is CSM doing for us anyway? Scamming? CCP, is this real ??? Are you dense or just trolling? It's already been said multiple times in this thread, nothing can be done. You fell for a scam. There are *NO RULES* preventing a CSM member from scamming. There are some morale rules. What is CSM doing again? For me, as a player and for the community...Beside scamming...
The Mittani GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2014	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:33:00 - [48] - Quote I'm really sick of all these lies about Goonswarm. Scamming isn't allowed in the Swarm; it's a shame our enemies are so bitter they're forced to fall back on dishonourable slander. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues
Poetic Stanziel Arrakis Technology 244	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:33:00 - [49] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: There are some morale rules. What is CSM doing again? For me, as a player and for the community...Beside scamming... As ****** up as it sounds, by scamming you, The Mittani is keeping the integrity of the game intact. (Google "EVE Online scams" and you'll read about some seriously big and famous scams. This game is well-known for it. Those scams attract a lot of people to this game for that wild west style of game play.) EVE Online: Incarna - New Coke EVE Online: Winter Expansion - Coke Classic
Neck Beardly United Highsec Front The 99 Percent 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:33:00 - [50] - Quote I think you are confusing the words "moral" and "morale." Unwritten, unimplied morale obligation best obligation.

Lord Mandelor Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble. 45	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:36:00 - [51] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: There are some morale rules. What is CSM doing again? For me, as a player and for the community...Beside scamming... MORALE LOST! SQUAD BROKEN! ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware.
Ladie Harlot GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 879	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:36:00 - [52] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: What is CSM doing again? For me, as a player and for the community...Beside scamming... You didn't even vote in the CSM election. Why do you care? The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Spacing Cowboy Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda 8	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:39:00 - [53] - Quote OP... Really, what where you thinking... Trust a Goon, and on top of that, a CSM? Might as well trust some roundom spammer in Jita, bigger chance of not losing your isk. Then again, this game would not be this game without goons waves at local , decloak! ffs! :)
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:42:00 - [54] - Quote So, what's next ? CCP scamming ? I paid for the plex and time has not been added to my pilot license. CCP: No you didn't.
Ladie Harlot GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 879	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:43:00 - [55] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: So, what's next ? CCP scamming ? I paid for the plex and time has not been added to my pilot license. CCP: No you didn't. That would be hilarious. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
The Mittani GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2015	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:46:00 - [56] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: So, what's next ? CCP scamming ? I paid for the plex and time has not been added to my pilot license. CCP: No you didn't. I am but a humble elected representative of the people. It just so happens that the people love war, murder, scamming and sadism. vOv The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues
Sarmatiko 164	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:46:00 - [57] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: I paid for the plex and time has not been added to my pilot license. CCP: No you didn't. I support this feature.
Bustin Jieber Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:47:00 - [58] - Quote The Mittani has my vote for as long as he wants to be King of Space
Zions Child Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance 34	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:54:00 - [59] - Quote The Mittani wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: So, what's next ? CCP scamming ? I paid for the plex and time has not been added to my pilot license. CCP: No you didn't. I am but a humble elected representative of the people. It just so happens that the people love war, murder, scamming and sadism. vOv Best post all week.
Michael Holmes Holmes Starvin' Pilots Association The Serpents Eye Alliance 12	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:54:00 - [60] - Quote Anyone who does business with the goons in any form is asking to get scammed. I know, I know, "Honorable space pilots" and all that tripe. That does not change the fact that I respect The Mittani for being a smart guy and very able to form a cult of personality, I cannot imagine the game being as fun without his little cult of yes men playing the role of the villain so well. But I would never ever trust any of them with any of my in game assets, they are without a shred of decency or honor and wear that like fact like a boy scout merit badge. just look at the goons they have on the forums 24/7, I don't know if they are supposed to be a PR corp of the goons or something but they reflect the cult of The Mittani very well. In short, don't trust a goon with anything important or anything that requires a shred of honesty and integrity.

Ciar Meara Virtus Vindice 242	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:58:00 - [61] - Quote Came hoping to read a wonderful tale of scamming, left disappointed because of a wail of chatlog. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow]
Zions Child Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance 34	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:59:00 - [62] - Quote Michael Holmes Holmes wrote: Anyone who does business with the goons in any form is asking to get scammed. I know, I know, "Honorable space pilots" and all that tripe. That does not change the fact that I respect The Mittani for being a smart guy and very able to form a cult of personality, I cannot imagine the game being as fun without his little cult of yes men playing the role of the villain so well. But I would never ever trust any of them with any of my in game assets, they are without a shred of decency or honor and wear that like fact like a boy scout merit badge. just look at the goons they have on the forums 24/7, I don't know if they are supposed to be a PR corp of the goons or something but they reflect the cult of The Mittani very well. In short, don't trust a goon with anything important or anything that requires a shred of honesty and integrity. On the contrary, I find you can trust the Goons quite well. You can trust them to do exactly what they say they'll do, to follow their own set of rules exactly. You will find that when you attempt to understand the Goon, you begin to realize just how honest they truly are. If you don't think they're honest, then you don't do your research.
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 07:59:00 - [63] - Quote The Mittani wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: So, what's next ? CCP scamming ? I paid for the plex and time has not been added to my pilot license. CCP: No you didn't. I am but a humble elected representative of the people. It just so happens that the people love war, murder, scamming and sadism. vOv Send me the isk Mittani. For whatever reason you scammed me, get over it or deal with the ones who made you angry.
KrakizBad Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension 54	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:00:00 - [64] - Quote Ciar Meara wrote: Came hoping to read a wonderful tale of scamming, left disappointed because of a wail of chatlog. Wonders if you meant wail or wall, cause both work. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39006524/DumbHiseccers.jpg
The Mittani GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2032	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:02:00 - [65] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Send me the isk Mittani. For whatever reason you scammed me, get over it or deal with the ones who made you angry. You think I got even a single isk out of that transaction? How adorable! I love pubbies. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues
Katrina Oniseki Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 152	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:03:00 - [66] - Quote The Mittani wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Send me the isk Mittani. For whatever reason you scammed me, get over it or deal with the ones who made you angry. You think I got even a single isk out of that transaction? How adorable! I love pubbies. SO THERE WAS A TRANSACTION ... the plot thickens ...
The Mittani GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2032	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:05:00 - [67] - Quote Katrina Oniseki wrote: The Mittani wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Send me the isk Mittani. For whatever reason you scammed me, get over it or deal with the ones who made you angry. You think I got even a single isk out of that transaction? How adorable! I love pubbies. SO THERE WAS A TRANSACTION ... the plot thickens ... A... supercap was handed over for free? The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:05:00 - [68] - Quote The Mittani wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Send me the isk Mittani. For whatever reason you scammed me, get over it or deal with the ones who made you angry. You think I got even a single isk out of that transaction? How adorable! I love pubbies.
Ciar Meara Virtus Vindice 242	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:06:00 - [69] - Quote KrakizBad wrote: Ciar Meara wrote: Came hoping to read a wonderful tale of scamming, left disappointed because of a wail of chatlog. Wonders if you meant wail or wall, cause both work. Language is a wonderful thing isn't it :), I also thought a whale of text would be appropriate choose wail though. Anyway, Mittani, give ME back the money! - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow]
Neck Beardly United Highsec Front The 99 Percent 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:07:00 - [70] - Quote The Nyx is a lie.

Ladie Harlot GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 881	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:09:00 - [71] - Quote How long before this dude starts calling Mittens' former employer and posting his parents names? The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Daquaris The Milkmen Test Alliance Please Ignore 4	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:12:00 - [72] - Quote I remember you! Your main is still Daspoopers, right?
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 368	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:12:00 - [73] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: So, what's next ? CCP scamming ? How do you still not get it... CCP Employee's are not allowed to use there official positions or there name to do anything in game. They are not allowed to scam you at all. CSM are not CCP employee's. They are players who talk to CCP based upon how many people voted for them and that is it. They have the same restrictions in game as anyone else. They as far as can be proven have not violated the Terms of Service they are not liable for the actions they take. The only moral standard they have to live by is one where they get re-elected. If what they do causes them to not get elected then they have failed to meet that standard and are not CSM's. CSM's do not equal CCP. So CCP Scamming and a CSM Scamming are no where near the same thing. The only thing that they have in common is that there acronyms both have 3 letters and start with a C.
Infinimo GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 322	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:13:00 - [74] - Quote Poetic Stanziel wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Channel ID: -26188450 Channel Name: Group Chat (Acwron, Amara Jade) Listener: AdmiraI Thrawn Session started: 2011.11.10 05:59:49 I think CCP can track down this convo quite easily. I hope this guy is going down or I get reimbursement. What is CSM doing for us anyway? Scamming? CCP, is this real ??? Dude. He scammed someone out of some ungodly amount of ISK a couple weeks ago over an Erebus. Theta Squad best squad. Monocle crew represent~
bp920091 The Nyan Cat Pirates P I R A T E S 2	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:13:00 - [75] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: The Mittani wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: So, what's next ? CCP scamming ? I paid for the plex and time has not been added to my pilot license. CCP: No you didn't. I am but a humble elected representative of the people. It just so happens that the people love war, murder, scamming and sadism. vOv Send me the isk Mittani. For whatever reason you scammed me, get over it or deal with the ones who made you angry. are you seriously trying to demand something of a guy located deep out in 0.0 space, surrounded by goons (who follow in his "Cult of Personality"), then surrounded by other major 0.0 alliances (which are in turn surrounded by others), then followed by the hostility of lowsec, not to mention the supercaps, massive 0.0 fleets, gatecamps, ect. If he doesnt want to give something back, its not happening Keep up the good work Mittani. Remember, whenever you press the undock button you essentially are losing your ship, getting it back home is a nice bonus, but remember, never undock what you cannot afford to lose.
tgl3 Wormhole Engineers Review and Evaluation Greater Realms 13	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:14:00 - [76] - Quote Didn't we have one of these threads just the other day? Not that I don't enjoy them.
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 368	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:15:00 - [77] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Send the isk Since CCP is not gonna help you at all and in fact will be laughing at you come morning I just have to ask... Or what?
Thorn Galen Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact 167	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:17:00 - [78] - Quote I read every post in this thread. I will leave it with this tale which most of you know - The Scorpion and the Tortoise. I find it very fitting to the situation. The scorpion was hamstrung, his tail all aquiver; just how would he manage to get across the river? GÇ£The waterGÇÖs so deep,GÇ¥ he observed with a sigh, which pricked at the ears of the tortoise nearby. GÇ£Well why donGÇÖt you swim?GÇ¥ asked the slow-moving fellow, GÇ£unless youGÇÖre afraid. I mean, what are you, yellow?GÇ¥ GÇ£It isnGÇÖt a matter of fear or of whim,GÇ¥ said the scorpion, GÇ£but that i donGÇÖt know how to swim.GÇ¥ GÇ£Ah, forgive me. I didnGÇÖt mean to be glib when I said that. I figured you were an amphibian.GÇ¥ GÇ£No offense taken,GÇ¥ the scorpion replied, GÇ£but how about you help me to reach the far side? You swim like a dream, and you have what I lack. LetGÇÖs say you take me across on your back?GÇ¥ GÇ£IGÇÖm really not sure thatGÇÖs the best thing to do,GÇ¥ said the tortoise, GÇ£now that I see that itGÇÖs you. YouGÇÖve a less than ideal reputation preceding: thereGÇÖs talk of your victims all poisoned and bleeding. YouGÇÖre the scorpion GÇö and how can I say this GÇö but, well, I just donGÇÖt feel safe with you riding my shell.GÇ¥ The scorpion replied, GÇ£What would killing you prove? WeGÇÖd both drown, so tell me: how would that behoove me to basically die at my very own hand when all I desire is to be on dry land?GÇ¥ The tortoise considered the scorpionGÇÖs defense. When he gave it some thought, it made perfect sense. The niggling voice in his mind he ignored, and he swam to the bank and called out: GÇ£Climb aboard!GÇ¥ But just a few moments from when they set sail, the scorpion lashed out with his venomous tail. The tortoise too late understood that heGÇÖd blundered when he felt his flesh stabbed and his carapace sundered. As he fought for his life, he said, GÇ£tell me why you have done this! For now we will surely both die!GÇ¥ GÇ£I donGÇÖt know!GÇ¥ cried the scorpion. GÇ£You never should trust a creature like me because poison I must! IGÇÖd claim some remorse or at least some compunction, but I just canGÇÖt help it; my form is my function. You thought IGÇÖd behave like my cousin, the crab, but unlike him, it is but my nature to stab.GÇ¥ The tortoise expired with one final quiver. And then both of them sank, swallowed up by the river. The tortoise was wrong to ignore all his doubts GÇö because in the end, friends, our natures wins out. The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars.
Neck Beardly United Highsec Front The 99 Percent 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:18:00 - [79] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Send the isk Since CCP is not gonna help you at all and in fact will be laughing at you come morning I just have to ask... Or what? OR HE'LL BE FORCED TO ASK AGAIN, IN A STERNER TONE!
shellree Galactic Shipyards Inc NEM3SIS. 6	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:18:00 - [80] - Quote well all i can say is you dont read forums enough or a completly uninformed. as soon as yousaw he was a goon you should have closed convo.

The Mittani GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2040	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:21:00 - [81] - Quote Thorn Galen wrote: I read every post in this thread. I will leave it with this tale which most of you know - The Scorpion and the Tortoise. I find it very fitting to the situation. Except after poisoning the Tortoise, the Scorpion lawls and cynos out. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues
Halcyon Ingenium Caldari Provisions Caldari State 16	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:21:00 - [82] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Channel ID: -26188450 Channel Name: Group Chat (Acwron, Amara Jade) Listener: AdmiraI Thrawn Session started: 2011.11.10 05:59:49 I think CCP can track down this convo quite easily. I hope this guy is going down or I get reimbursement. What is CSM doing for us anyway? Scamming? CCP, is this real ??? Halcyon Ingenium> Thinks of EVE is real ad campaign, laughs The loser in any fight consols himself with a moral victory. Thus is the beginning of slave-morality.
Raid'En Apprentice Innovations 105	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:21:00 - [83] - Quote is it the 3rd or 4th time he does it ? people never check past of someone before using him ? serisously...
Ladie Harlot GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 882	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:22:00 - [84] - Quote shellree wrote: well all i can say is you dont read forums enough or a completly uninformed. as soon as yousaw he was a goon you should have closed convo. Your alliance has both a number and a dot. You guys must be fierce. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:22:00 - [85] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Send the isk Since CCP is not gonna help you at all and in fact will be laughing at you come morning I just have to ask... Or what? Things are simple : If a CSM does this to a CCP customer, than I have several questions : What is CSM? What is CSM doing for me ? What is CCP doing to keep me paying for this game? Laugh at me? Is it true? So I pay CCP to laugh at me? I don't feel like laughing right now. But I can stop paying for my 8 accounts. That's all I can do.
Gilbaron The Scope Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:23:00 - [86] - Quote so, you ran to the leader of an alliance which is known for notorious scamming to safely hand over a supercap ? good job dude, you should have known better owning one ...
Lord Mandelor Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble. 45	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:24:00 - [87] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Alara IonStorm wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Send the isk Since CCP is not gonna help you at all and in fact will be laughing at you come morning I just have to ask... Or what? Things are simple : If a CSM does this to a CCP customer, than I have several questions : What is CSM? What is CSM doing for me ? What is CCP doing to keep me paying for this game? Laugh at me? Is it true? So I pay CCP to laugh at me? I don't feel like laughing right now. But I can stop paying for my 8 accounts. That's all I can do. 8? Do they need super caps too? I know a guy. ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware.
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:27:00 - [88] - Quote Raid'En wrote: is it the 3rd or 4th time he does it ? people never check past of someone before using him ? serisously... CSM Chairman doing this? Seriously...
Ripard Teg Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle 7	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:28:00 - [89] - Quote The Mittani wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: So, what's next ? CCP scamming ? I paid for the plex and time has not been added to my pilot license. CCP: No you didn't. I am but a humble elected representative of the people. It just so happens that the people love war, murder, scamming and sadism. vOv There are just way too many good EVE quotes this week. How I'm going to pick my QOTW for next week, I don't even know. But this one's definitely in the running. Jester's Trek: wherein I ramble about EVE Online, gaming, and from time to time... life.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 1359	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:30:00 - [90] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: What is CSM? A bunch of players. Quote: What is CSM doing for me ? That dependsGÇª did you vote? Quote: What is CCP doing to keep me paying for this game? Laugh at me? Is it true? So I pay CCP to laugh at me? You pay CCP for access to the server. If during your time on the server, you make them laugh, then that's just a bonus. Just because you're a CCP customer doesn't mean you are safe from scams GÇö quite the opposite in fact. If you are a CCP customer, then you are pretty much by definition open to scamming. It comes with the territory. Quote: CSM Chairman doing this? Seriously... Of course. He wouldn't be much of a player representative if he didn't, now would he? GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á

Arthur Frayn Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 29	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:31:00 - [91] - Quote The Mittani wrote: Such shameful lies, such obviously faked logs. Tsk, tsk. Come on now, be proud of what you are!
Thorn Galen Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact 168	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:31:00 - [92] - Quote The Mittani wrote: Thorn Galen wrote: I read every post in this thread. I will leave it with this tale which most of you know - The Scorpion and the Tortoise. I find it very fitting to the situation. Except after poisoning the Tortoise, the Scorpion lawls and cynos out. Ahahaha, touche ! The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars.
XIRUSPHERE In Bacon We Trust 97	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:34:00 - [93] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Alara IonStorm wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Send the isk Since CCP is not gonna help you at all and in fact will be laughing at you come morning I just have to ask... Or what? Things are simple : If a CSM does this to a CCP customer, than I have several questions : What is CSM? What is CSM doing for me ? What is CCP doing to keep me paying for this game? Laugh at me? Is it true? So I pay CCP to laugh at me? I don't feel like laughing right now. But I can stop paying for my 8 accounts. That's all I can do. Dear good sir of our space friend network of utmost understanding and reverence for e-honor. The CSM acts as a buffer zone for communications between CCP and the players and nothing more. The mittani is not a white knight of the players, he is a diplomat. Diplomats KILL real people in the countries they are supposed to be representing and get away with it. Just sit on that for a bit, CCP is not beholden to making the situation any better. He's just another player and you got played. The advantage of a bad memory is that one can enjoy the same good things for the first time several times. One will rarely err if extreme actions be ascribed to vanity, ordinary actions to habit, and mean actions to fear.
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 369	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:34:00 - [94] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: What is CSM? A 7 person organization. To become a member you must have a certain number of players vote for you. AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: What is CSM doing for me ? Nothing. There constituents voted them in to represent the direction in which they think EVE should take. If you agree with there philosophy and direction they are lobbying it to CCP. AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: What is CCP doing to keep me paying for this game? Laugh at me? Is it true? So I pay CCP to laugh at me? I don't feel like laughing right now. But I can stop paying for my 8 accounts. That's all I can do. The mistake was your own and you screwed up no one else. You could have Checked to see if Mittani was legit or used a broker that is well trusted. You did not. You and anyone who plays this game should and probably do know that scamming is in fact allowed. You could have checked to see if the CSM's are allowed to scam you or not, there is a wealth of information on the subject. But you did not, you just assumed and even though you just asked what are the CSM's you trusted them. You pay CCP for access to the Server and that is it. If you do not like the rules of the game(the ones you did not bother to learn) then you can quit. Really it is your loss, EVE is a great game if you know how to play it.
bp920091 The Nyan Cat Pirates P I R A T E S 2	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:36:00 - [95] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Alara IonStorm wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Send the isk Since CCP is not gonna help you at all and in fact will be laughing at you come morning I just have to ask... Or what? Things are simple : If a CSM does this to a CCP customer, than I have several questions : What is CSM? What is CSM doing for me ? What is CCP doing to keep me paying for this game? Laugh at me? Is it true? So I pay CCP to laugh at me? I don't feel like laughing right now. But I can stop paying for my 8 accounts. That's all I can do. 1. What is CSM? CSM is the advance player feedback tool, made up from people in the community, elected by said communtiy, designed to oversee new features and changes that CCP does and give feedback on them 2. What is CSM doing for me? Skillqueues, Fuel Pellets, Supercap changes, new BCs (not quite sure if the CSM explicitly requested that), Hybrid Buff, T2 ammo buff, the radical change in direction from the release of incarna (emegency summit). a lot of stuff actually. 3. What is CCP doing to keep me paying for this game? They continue to provide the same consistent in-game experience that it always has. If you suddenly got refunded because you got "scammed" what is their reasoning when other people ask for isk back when they get scammed. I remember back in the NC, there was a guy who scammed an idiot in Jita out of an ingame plex. He sold it for 32 Billion, rather than 320 Million. CCP is allowing you the possiblity to continue doing scams. As long as you do not say that you are a member of CCP (which the mittani did not), a GM (which the mittani did not), or hack the game client (from what i can tell, he did not), this scam was 100% legal and you can do the exact same thing. My advice, Wait for CHRIBBA to be online before trying to trade a super.
bp920091 The Nyan Cat Pirates P I R A T E S 2	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:36:00 - [96] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: What is CSM? A 7 person organization. To become a member you must have a certain number of players vote for you. AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: What is CSM doing for me ? Nothing. There constituents voted them in to represent the direction in which they think EVE should take. If you agree with there philosophy and direction they are lobbying it to CCP. AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: What is CCP doing to keep me paying for this game? Laugh at me? Is it true? So I pay CCP to laugh at me? I don't feel like laughing right now. But I can stop paying for my 8 accounts. That's all I can do. The mistake was your own and you screwed up no one else. You could have Checked to see if Mittani was legit or used a broker that is well trusted. You did not. You and anyone who plays this game should and probably do know that scamming is in fact allowed. You could have checked to see if the CSM's are allowed to scam you or not, there is a wealth of information on the subject. But you did not, you just assumed and even though you just asked what are the CSM's you trusted them. You pay CCP for access to the Server and that is it. If you do not like the rules of the game(the ones you did not bother to learn) then you can quit. Really it is your loss, EVE is a great game if you know how to play it. beat me to the punch there
Poetic Stanziel Arrakis Technology 245	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:38:00 - [97] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Alara IonStorm wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Send the isk Since CCP is not gonna help you at all and in fact will be laughing at you come morning I just have to ask... Or what? Things are simple : If a CSM does this to a CCP customer, than I have several questions : What is CSM? What is CSM doing for me ? What is CCP doing to keep me paying for this game? Laugh at me? Is it true? So I pay CCP to laugh at me? I don't feel like laughing right now. But I can stop paying for my 8 accounts. That's all I can do. Rage quit? If you have 8 accounts, then start making another Nyx ... and use Chribba as your broker. Consider this a very expensive lesson that you've bought and paid for. EVE Online: Incarna - New Coke EVE Online: Winter Expansion - Coke Classic
Jowen Datloran Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 78	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:40:00 - [98] - Quote Ah well, I guess it was time to have those CSM voting rules changed anyhow. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á
Poetic Stanziel Arrakis Technology 245	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:41:00 - [99] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: What is CSM? 7 players. AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: I can stop paying for my 8 accounts. 8 > 7. You win. EVE Online: Incarna - New Coke EVE Online: Winter Expansion - Coke Classic
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 370	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:45:00 - [100] - Quote Jowen Datloran wrote: Ah well, I guess it was time to have those CSM voting rules changed anyhow. Why? There are more players in High Sec then Null sec but the Null sec players get elected. If people in High sec got involved and sided with candidates that represented there needs no Null sec candidates would be elected. The Systems not broken, the people are stupid. Get out and Vote in the next election!

XIRUSPHERE In Bacon We Trust 97	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:47:00 - [101] - Quote Jowen Datloran wrote: Ah well, I guess it was time to have those carebears stop being apathetic about voting anyhow. Fixed that for you The advantage of a bad memory is that one can enjoy the same good things for the first time several times. One will rarely err if extreme actions be ascribed to vanity, ordinary actions to habit, and mean actions to fear.
TheCarl Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:49:00 - [102] - Quote ITT: A foolish pubbie is scammed out of a Nyx, posts his own logs for all to enjoy, and continues to amuse us with his angry pleas to mf'ing Mittani to give him back his space money. I guess I've seen it all now.
Poetic Stanziel Arrakis Technology 245	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:52:00 - [103] - Quote XIRUSPHERE wrote: Jowen Datloran wrote: Ah well, I guess it was time to have those carebears stop being apathetic about voting anyhow. Fixed that for you And you'll all ******* vote Kelduum Revaan. The Spreadsheets in Space (SiS) candidate. You do know he got his entire corporation to vote for corporate interface UI issues during that crowdsourced voting thing a few months back, right? Not hybrid fixes. Not assault frigate fixes. Not fixes to any Flying in Space mechanics. Nope. He asked his large 1500 person corporation to vote for corporate UI fixes. Genius! EVE Online: Incarna - New Coke EVE Online: Winter Expansion - Coke Classic
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:53:00 - [104] - Quote If you voted this guy as a Chairman, there's not much I can say. Vote for what? You think my vote counts for anything? It doesn't in real life, it doesn't in here either. He does not represent me but still is a buffer between CCP and me? Doesn't make sense, does it? He is a scumbag, nothing more. I learned my lesson...Don't trust the ones who shout they wanna make a better game and 'fight' CCP for it. If 20 bil was the price for it, so be it. But if CCP agrees with these guys who supposed to be a sort of syndicate then I'm disappointed.
luZk Jaegerkorpset 30	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:55:00 - [105] - Quote "I bet you'll vote next time....."
Poetic Stanziel Arrakis Technology 245	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:56:00 - [106] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: He does not represent me ... The irony is that he's going to use that 20B ISK in his Campaign for Re-Election. EVE Online: Incarna - New Coke EVE Online: Winter Expansion - Coke Classic
XIRUSPHERE In Bacon We Trust 97	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:57:00 - [107] - Quote Poetic Stanziel wrote: XIRUSPHERE wrote: Jowen Datloran wrote: Ah well, I guess it was time to have those carebears stop being apathetic about voting anyhow. Fixed that for you And you'll all ******* vote Kelduum Revaan. The Spreadsheets in Space (SiS) candidate. You do know he got his entire corporation to vote for corporate interface UI issues during that crowdsourced voting thing a few months back, right? Not hybrid fixes. Not assault frigate fixes. Not fixes to any Flying in Space mechanics. Nope. He asked his large 1500 person corporation to vote for corporate UI fixes. Genius! Whatever it takes to prove the legitimacy of the CSM has gone the way of the dodo right? But it does prove a point, at this juncture it would be better if we continued to get a high level of feedback and actual devs taking feedback from players rather than a narrow focus. The advantage of a bad memory is that one can enjoy the same good things for the first time several times. One will rarely err if extreme actions be ascribed to vanity, ordinary actions to habit, and mean actions to fear.
bp920091 The Nyan Cat Pirates P I R A T E S 3	Posted - 2011.11.10 08:57:00 - [108] - Quote TheCarl wrote: ITT: A foolish pubbie is scammed out of a Nyx, posts his own logs for all to enjoy, and continues to amuse us with his angry pleas to mf'ing Mittani to give him back his space money. I guess I've seen it all now. I see it all the time, being in a pirate alliance. you see all sorts of stories about people convoing you about "Why did you blow up my retriever in 0.4 sec space? Concord should stop people like you." These kinds of stories keep me at it, manning the occasionally (or VERY) boring lowsec gatecamps, roaming solo through belts, searching for people, just trying to find people who think that concord would protect them in lowsec. Hit my security status all you want, give me a bounty (I love that people keep giving me cash when i just get an alt to pop my empty pod), call me names, but dont stop coming out to lowsec, i enjoy kills like that. Its part of what got me into eve and has kept me playing eve for nearly 3 years now.
Tribal Solidarity Sacred Templars RED.OverLord 2	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:00:00 - [109] - Quote Lol. I don't come to E-O forums much but when I do it's to find funnies like this. Shame about all the other pubbies who were agreeing with this guy in the early stages. Keep on scamming.
Darth Skorpius Legion of Darkwind Order of the Void 20	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:09:00 - [110] - Quote the irony is eve online is just one giant scam. one day ccp will turn the servers off and keep everyones money. also, the csm is just an excuse for 7 players to fly to iceland a couple of times a year and get shitfaced with devs and get a free trip to fanfest. anything they actually manage to achieve is a bonus FICTION CONTEST! WIN A PAIR OF PLEX! http://phoenixdiaries.co.uk/skorpion352 Baa Means Baa!

Ivana Twinkle GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 53	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:10:00 - [111] - Quote A REAL Admiral Thrawn would never have been scammed.
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 370	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:14:00 - [112] - Quote Ivana Twinkle wrote: A REAL Admiral Thrawn would never have been scammed. He would have kicked all your A$$es. What can I say, the man just knows how to use Dreadnaughts.
Darth Skorpius Legion of Darkwind Order of the Void 20	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:14:00 - [113] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: If you voted this guy as a Chairman, there's not much I can say. Vote for what? You think my vote counts for anything? It doesn't in real life, it doesn't in here either. so did you vote or not? if you didnt then dont ***** about the csm. people who dont even bother to vote have no right to complain about anything relation to elections, be they rl elections or important internet spaceship elections FICTION CONTEST! WIN A PAIR OF PLEX! http://phoenixdiaries.co.uk/skorpion352 Baa Means Baa!
Samillian Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos 23	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:15:00 - [114] - Quote In my experience it is normal for almost ANY player to scam should the opportunity arise, no matter what their position in the EvE community. Not to do so is to waste the precious gift of another's stupidity. Being on the CSM does not mean you stop playing the game and become a saint.
Rellik B00n Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage 15	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:16:00 - [115] - Quote Kietay Ayari wrote: Jada Maroo wrote: Is it normal? Yes. Should he be allowed to use his position as CSM head to imply a sort of legitimacy and aid in his scams? No. Not only is it lazy and effortless, it gives him an edge over other scammers. Why not? Doesn't anyone who is deemed reliable enough to be a third party use some kind of background to prove they are trustworthy? Metagame go! It does give him an edge, but it is something you have to work for to get ;D "hey guys we need a null sec CSM, vote for me" damn that must have been hard work.
Day Tradin Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:18:00 - [116] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: If you voted this guy as a Chairman, there's not much I can say. Vote for what? You think my vote counts for anything? It doesn't in real life, it doesn't in here either. He does not represent me but still is a buffer between CCP and me? Doesn't make sense, does it? He is a scumbag, nothing more. I learned my lesson...Don't trust the ones who shout they wanna make a better game and 'fight' CCP for it. If 20 bil was the price for it, so be it. But if CCP agrees with these guys who supposed to be a sort of syndicate then I'm disappointed. It's strange to me that someone who's played the game long enough to train up for a nyx and own a nyx still doesn't know that the Goons are renowned scammers in Eve. I'm just stupid enough to think that nobody would fall for any of these types of scams anymore because they've all been played out. If you're so obtuse to be scammed by the Goons at this point, you deserved it.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 1359	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:21:00 - [117] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: You think my vote counts for anything? It doesn't in real life, it doesn't in here either. It is this belief that put Mittens in the chair. You have no-one to blame but yourself. Much like how you have no-one but yourself to blame for your failure at due diligence. Quote: He does not represent me but still is a buffer between CCP and me? Doesn't make sense, does it? Sure it does. It's how most democratic representation ends up working. Quote: I learned my lesson...Don't trust the ones who shout they wanna make a better game and 'fight' CCP for it. So tou havent't learned your lesson at all. You still think of it as GÇ£a CSM" scammed you, when in actuality, a player GÇö a goon, even GÇö scammed you, which as surprises go is right up there with water being wet. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Darth Skorpius Legion of Darkwind Order of the Void 20	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:23:00 - [118] - Quote Tippia wrote: which as surprises go is riggt up there with water being wet. wait, water is wet? when did that happen and why did no one tell me? FICTION CONTEST! WIN A PAIR OF PLEX! http://phoenixdiaries.co.uk/skorpion352 Baa Means Baa!
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:25:00 - [119] - Quote Samillian wrote: In my experience it is normal for almost ANY player to scam should the opportunity arise, no matter what their position in the EvE community. Not to do so is to waste the precious gift of another's stupidity. Being on the CSM does not mean you stop playing the game and become a saint. CSM should represent players, right? So if their Chairman is scamming players, can I suggest CCP not dealing with them at all? This guy is just sad...as someone said, it's just space money, the isk is not the issue. The CCP cooperation with this kind of people makes me wonder...
Ladie Harlot GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 882	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:29:00 - [120] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Samillian wrote: In my experience it is normal for almost ANY player to scam should the opportunity arise, no matter what their position in the EvE community. Not to do so is to waste the precious gift of another's stupidity. Being on the CSM does not mean you stop playing the game and become a saint. CSM should represent players, right? So if their Chairman is scamming players, can I suggest CCP not dealing with them at all? This guy is just sad...as someone said, it's just space money, the isk is not the issue. The CCP cooperation with this kind of people makes me wonder... Guess you should have voted The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

Darth Skorpius Legion of Darkwind Order of the Void 20	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:30:00 - [121] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Samillian wrote: In my experience it is normal for almost ANY player to scam should the opportunity arise, no matter what their position in the EvE community. Not to do so is to waste the precious gift of another's stupidity. Being on the CSM does not mean you stop playing the game and become a saint. CSM should represent players, right? So if their Chairman is scamming players, can I suggest CCP not dealing with them at all? This guy is just sad...as someone said, it's just space money, the isk is not the issue. The CCP cooperation with this kind of people makes me wonder... no, csm represnt the players who voted for them, which in mittens case is mostly goons and other goon type people. and are you saying ccp should ignore the csm? do you actually want anything changed in the upcoming expansion? becuase smoe (most? all?) of those changes wouldnt be happening at all if it wasnt for the csm, in fact if it wasnt for the csm ccp wouldh ave continued heading straight off a cliff and eve would actualyl be dying right now ( and not the doom and gloom dying, actual legit dying with more mass unsubs) FICTION CONTEST! WIN A PAIR OF PLEX! http://phoenixdiaries.co.uk/skorpion352 Baa Means Baa!
KSUDruid The Riot Formation Get Off My Lawn 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:31:00 - [122] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: If you voted this guy as a Chairman, there's not much I can say. Vote for what? You think my vote counts for anything? It doesn't in real life, it doesn't in here either. He does not represent me but still is a buffer between CCP and me? Doesn't make sense, does it? He is a scumbag, nothing more. I learned my lesson...Don't trust the ones who shout they wanna make a better game and 'fight' CCP for it. If 20 bil was the price for it, so be it. But if CCP agrees with these guys who supposed to be a sort of syndicate then I'm disappointed. Sorry to burst your bubble here but as previously stated in this thread, you should've preformed a background check if you were unsure or waited for a trusted name such as Chribba or Grendell. CSM are elected from us the players to represent our voice. Just as you vote in a President/Prime Minister, they are just normal people and therefore are allowed to play the game as seen fit. Only rules that appiles is an NDA to prevent new content and stop CSM members gaining an advantage 'insider knowledge'. EvE is a cruel mistress and you paid the heavy price... Space is a cold, desolate place isnt it?
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 370	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:34:00 - [123] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: CSM should represent players, right? No they should represent there constituents. AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: So if their Chairman is scamming players, can I suggest CCP not dealing with them at all? You can suggest anything you want but then again since scamming is legal and supported by most of the playerbase and CCP you probably will not get very far. AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: This guy is just sad... That is your opinion and yours alone. I like him. AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: the isk is not the issue. It is the only issue because as 100 Posters before this have said and will say again... SCAMMING IS LEGAL IN EVE! AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: The CCP cooperation with this kind of people makes me wonder... Wonder what? The Mittani did not break any rules.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 1359	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:34:00 - [124] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: So if their Chairman is scamming players, can I suggest CCP not dealing with them at all? Yes. It's called voting. A new round is due quite soon Quote: The CCP cooperation with this kind of people makes me wonder... GÇ£This kind of people"GÇª You think it's bad that CCP co-operates with the players? GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:34:00 - [125] - Quote Ladie Harlot wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Samillian wrote: In my experience it is normal for almost ANY player to scam should the opportunity arise, no matter what their position in the EvE community. Not to do so is to waste the precious gift of another's stupidity. Being on the CSM does not mean you stop playing the game and become a saint. CSM should represent players, right? So if their Chairman is scamming players, can I suggest CCP not dealing with them at all? This guy is just sad...as someone said, it's just space money, the isk is not the issue. The CCP cooperation with this kind of people makes me wonder... Guess you should have voted Vote him and being scammed as well would've been too much for me ^^ Pathetic is one of the words that can pretty much describe you guys.
Dyner Midgard Protectorate 15	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:35:00 - [126] - Quote This is truly an outrage. Mittani, you should be ashamed..... .....ashamed you didn't pod-kill him
Ladie Harlot GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 882	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:36:00 - [127] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Pathetic is one of the words that can pretty much describe you guys. Spacerich is another word that can describe us. Thanks for helping out with that. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Day Tradin Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:37:00 - [128] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Samillian wrote: In my experience it is normal for almost ANY player to scam should the opportunity arise, no matter what their position in the EvE community. Not to do so is to waste the precious gift of another's stupidity. Being on the CSM does not mean you stop playing the game and become a saint. CSM should represent players, right? So if their Chairman is scamming players, can I suggest CCP not dealing with them at all? This guy is just sad...as someone said, it's just space money, the isk is not the issue. The CCP cooperation with this kind of people makes me wonder... Where did you RMT your toons and isk from? It seems obvious you're new here. CCP dev's aren't the least bit shy about saying how scamming/backstabbing in an MMO is something they not only endorse, but enjoy themselves. Go look at some of the dev interviews (pick them at random) and you'll see this game was made by people who probably are cheering The Mittani on. You wont get any sympathy from CCP on this. You screwed yourself. Now, since it seems you have lots of isk to give away, how about you throw, say, 5bil my way. I'm tired of seeing everyone else just be handed billions of space money. I need to get in on this cash cow.
Dyner Midgard Protectorate 15	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:39:00 - [129] - Quote Ladie Harlot wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Pathetic is one of the words that can pretty much describe you guys. Spacerich is another word that can describe us. Thanks for helping out with that. Goonswarm, we are the 0.01% :P
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:39:00 - [130] - Quote Ladie Harlot wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Pathetic is one of the words that can pretty much describe you guys. Spacerich is another word that can describe us. Thanks for helping out with that. Get a face job, really... I'm waiting for a CCP opinion about this...really curious

Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 370	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:39:00 - [131] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Vote him and being scammed as well would've been too much for me ^^ They didn't vote him in to give us Hugs. They Voted for him because they like his platform. Outside of that he is a regular EVE player and nothing more. AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Pathetic is one of the words that can pretty much describe you guys. Person Fails miserably at the game then toothlessly calls his opponent names because there is nothing else he can do. More at 12.
Ladie Harlot GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 882	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:41:00 - [132] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Ladie Harlot wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Pathetic is one of the words that can pretty much describe you guys. Spacerich is another word that can describe us. Thanks for helping out with that. Get a face job, really... I'm waiting for a CCP opinion about this...really curious You are going to be disappointed when they get around to responding to your petition. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Diosas Comply Or Die 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:42:00 - [133] - Quote Darth Skorpius wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Samillian wrote: In my experience it is normal for almost ANY player to scam should the opportunity arise, no matter what their position in the EvE community. Not to do so is to waste the precious gift of another's stupidity. Being on the CSM does not mean you stop playing the game and become a saint. CSM should represent players, right? So if their Chairman is scamming players, can I suggest CCP not dealing with them at all? This guy is just sad...as someone said, it's just space money, the isk is not the issue. The CCP cooperation with this kind of people makes me wonder... no, csm represnt the players who voted for them, which in mittens case is mostly goons and other goon type people. and are you saying ccp should ignore the csm? do you actually want anything changed in the upcoming expansion? becuase smoe (most? all?) of those changes wouldnt be happening at all if it wasnt for the csm, in fact if it wasnt for the csm ccp wouldh ave continued heading straight off a cliff and eve would actualyl be dying right now ( and not the doom and gloom dying, actual legit dying with more mass unsubs) The CSM is supposed to represent the whole playerbase, and secondly stop talking azs if the CSM have changed the world, because they havent. They may have helped on something, but there are many things they havent done. So give it a rest
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 370	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:43:00 - [134] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Get a face job, really... Why does Lady Harlot have to change herself to be in line with what you think is beautiful? Are you that shallow and narrow minded?
SMT008 Les chevaliers de l'ordre Goonswarm Federation 173	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:45:00 - [135] - Quote ITT, Admiral Whatever went in the Lions' cage with a meat-suit. With CCP, Mittens in a Chairman. Ingame, he is just a regular dude that likes to fsck over other peoples. Oh and you might want to read this, It's probably what CCP is going to tell you : EULA
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 370	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:45:00 - [136] - Quote Diosas wrote: The CSM is supposed to represent the whole playerbase, I am sorry but really? Really? CSM is designed around a REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY. By definition they do not represent everyone.
Ladie Harlot GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 882	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:45:00 - [137] - Quote Diosas wrote: The CSM is supposed to represent the whole playerbase, and secondly stop talking azs if the CSM have changed the world, because they havent. They may have helped on something, but there are many things they havent done. So give it a rest Actually CSM6 is the most effective CSM in history. They've been so effective that Hilmar is considering tweaking the voting process so he can get CSMs that don't cause him so much trouble. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
KSUDruid The Riot Formation Get Off My Lawn 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:46:00 - [138] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: I'm waiting for a CCP opinion about this...really curious Build a bridge and get over it... CCP can't help because Mittani hasn't broken any rules. If he had broken the rules/EULA whatever then sure, CCP would look favourably towards you. However in this instance, you made a mistake therefore no rules were broken. If you wish to unsub your accounts then so be it, you will still be out of said 20bill, someone is flying a nyx and the rest of us can have a laugh. Enjoy WoW won't you
Big Bad Mofo Retribution. 45	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:47:00 - [139] - Quote KSUDruid wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: If you voted this guy as a Chairman, there's not much I can say. Vote for what? You think my vote counts for anything? It doesn't in real life, it doesn't in here either. He does not represent me but still is a buffer between CCP and me? Doesn't make sense, does it? He is a scumbag, nothing more. I learned my lesson...Don't trust the ones who shout they wanna make a better game and 'fight' CCP for it. If 20 bil was the price for it, so be it. But if CCP agrees with these guys who supposed to be a sort of syndicate then I'm disappointed. Sorry to burst your bubble here but as previously stated in this thread, you should've preformed a background check if you were unsure or waited for a trusted name such as Chribba or Grendell. CSM are elected from us the players to represent our voice. Just as you vote in a President/Prime Minister, they are just normal people and therefore are allowed to play the game as seen fit. Only rules that appiles is an NDA to prevent new content and stop CSM members gaining an advantage 'insider knowledge'. EvE is a cruel mistress and you paid the heavy price... Space is a cold, desolate place isnt it? How do you know you havent been there have you?
Dyner Midgard Protectorate 15	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:47:00 - [140] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Get a face job, really... Why does Lady Harlot have to change herself to be in line with what you think is beautiful? Are you that shallow and narrow minded? I'd tap that. just sayin'

Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 370	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:48:00 - [141] - Quote Dyner wrote: Alara IonStorm wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Get a face job, really... Why does Lady Harlot have to change herself to be in line with what you think is beautiful? Are you that shallow and narrow minded? I'd tap that. just sayin' ^ More Sensitive then Thrawn. ^
Big Bad Mofo Retribution. 45	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:49:00 - [142] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Ladie Harlot wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Pathetic is one of the words that can pretty much describe you guys. Spacerich is another word that can describe us. Thanks for helping out with that. Get a face job, really... I'm waiting for a CCP opinion about this...really curious I think you need to read this https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=22324&find=unread and you will find your answer
Dyner Midgard Protectorate 15	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:50:00 - [143] - Quote KSUDruid wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: I'm waiting for a CCP opinion about this...really curious Build a bridge and get over it... ..a titan bridge that is. ....oh wait...NEVERMIND!
Garia666 T.H.U.G L.I.F.E Xenon-Empire 7	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:51:00 - [144] - Quote i have said it a 100 times.. the only good goon is a dead one.. or a banned one. This is shows only once more how much he can be trusted as an chairman. Next time when you get on the EVE fan fest punch him in the face.. will make him thing twice then.
Dyner Midgard Protectorate 15	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:52:00 - [145] - Quote Garia666 wrote: i have said it a 100 times.. the only good goon is a dead one.. or a banned one. This is shows only once more how much he can be trusted as an chairman. Next time when you get on the EVE fan fest punch him in the face.. will make him thing twice then. RL threats; niiiice.
Ladie Harlot GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 885	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:53:00 - [146] - Quote Garia666 wrote: i have said it a 100 times.. the only good goon is a dead one.. or a banned one. This is shows only once more how much he can be trusted as an chairman. Next time when you get on the EVE fan fest punch him in the face.. will make him thing twice then. Wow...it only took eight pages to get to RL threats of violence. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Ifly Uwalk Concentrated Evil 30	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:53:00 - [147] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Channel ID: -26188450 Channel Name: Group Chat (Acwron, Amara Jade) Listener: AdmiraI Thrawn Session started: 2011.11.10 05:59:49 I think CCP can track down this convo quite easily. I hope this guy is going down or I get reimbursement. What is CSM doing for us anyway? Scamming? CCP, is this real ??? You are an idiot.
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:54:00 - [148] - Quote KSUDruid wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: I'm waiting for a CCP opinion about this...really curious Build a bridge and get over it... CCP can't help because Mittani hasn't broken any rules. If he had broken the rules/EULA whatever then sure, CCP would look favourably towards you. However in this instance, you made a mistake therefore no rules were broken. If you wish to unsub your accounts then so be it, you will still be out of said 20bill, someone is flying a nyx and the rest of us can have a laugh. Enjoy WoW won't you You don't get it, do you? In game scam is ok, is allowed, part of the game. CSM is not ingame syndicate, they actually go and meet CCP in real LIFE ! So CCP deals with scumbags about my future in game? I don't like that, I vote NO !
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 370	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:54:00 - [149] - Quote Garia666 wrote: Next time when you get on the EVE fan fest punch him in the face.. will make him thing twice then. /therapy
Dyner Midgard Protectorate 15	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:55:00 - [150] - Quote Ladie Harlot wrote: Garia666 wrote: i have said it a 100 times.. the only good goon is a dead one.. or a banned one. This is shows only once more how much he can be trusted as an chairman. Next time when you get on the EVE fan fest punch him in the face.. will make him thing twice then. Wow...it only took eight pages to get to RL threats of violence. Someone must of spiked the punch; natives aren't as restless.

Ladie Harlot GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 885	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:56:00 - [151] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: You don't get it, do you? In game scam is ok, is allowed, part of the game. CSM is not ingame syndicate, they actually go and meet CCP in real LIFE ! So CCP deals with scumbags about my future in game? I don't like that, I vote NO ! Silly kid...it's too late to vote now. Also if "in game scam is ok, is allowed, part of the game" then why are you so upset? The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

GM Homonoia Game Masters C C P Alliance 89	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:56:00 - [152] - Quote DISCLAIMER: I am not commenting, nor am I going to comment, on the particular case that is being discussed here. My comments here are simply to clarify our stance on the rights and duties of CSM members; they are in no way any indication of CCPs views on the morality of these things. Any CSM member, no matter who he or she ma be, is bound by the EULA and ToS (as any other player is) and by the NDA that they signed when they took office. Other then these rules, they are free to enjoy EVE Online in any way they see fit, no matter their chosen play style. In the end they are free to enjoy the game like any other player, as long as they do not abuse any NDA bound information to get ahead. GM Homonoia \| Info Group \| Game Master

Dyner Midgard Protectorate 15	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:56:00 - [153] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: KSUDruid wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: I'm waiting for a CCP opinion about this...really curious Build a bridge and get over it... CCP can't help because Mittani hasn't broken any rules. If he had broken the rules/EULA whatever then sure, CCP would look favourably towards you. However in this instance, you made a mistake therefore no rules were broken. If you wish to unsub your accounts then so be it, you will still be out of said 20bill, someone is flying a nyx and the rest of us can have a laugh. Enjoy WoW won't you You don't get it, do you? In game scam is ok, is allowed, part of the game. CSM is not ingame syndicate, they actually go and meet CCP in real LIFE ! So CCP deals with scumbags about my future in game? I don't like that, I vote NO ! I vote: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6xDnGeknMqw/S5hEndDkGvI/AAAAAAAASgI/rst0LIbUpo0/s400/you-kids-get-off-my-lawn.jpg
Helicity Boson Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 16	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:57:00 - [154] - Quote This is why you should only use ME for your third partying.
KSUDruid The Riot Formation Get Off My Lawn 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:58:00 - [155] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: KSUDruid wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: I'm waiting for a CCP opinion about this...really curious Build a bridge and get over it... CCP can't help because Mittani hasn't broken any rules. If he had broken the rules/EULA whatever then sure, CCP would look favourably towards you. However in this instance, you made a mistake therefore no rules were broken. If you wish to unsub your accounts then so be it, you will still be out of said 20bill, someone is flying a nyx and the rest of us can have a laugh. Enjoy WoW won't you You don't get it, do you? In game scam is ok, is allowed, part of the game. CSM is not ingame syndicate, they actually go and meet CCP in real LIFE ! So CCP deals with scumbags about my future in game? I don't like that, I vote NO ! You really aren't getting it are you? Was this a CSM/CCP matter? No Was The Mittani breaking any rules? No Was The Mittani playing the game as he sees fit? Yes Were you stupid? Yes
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 370	Posted - 2011.11.10 09:59:00 - [156] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: You don't get it, do you? In game scam is ok, is allowed, part of the game. CSM is not ingame syndicate, they actually go and meet CCP in real LIFE ! No they are not an in-game group. Nothing they do for the CSM happens in-game. It happens in real life. When they log into the game they are just players who are not operating in an official capacity. AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: So CCP deals with scumbags about my future in game? I don't like that, I vote NO ! You think scammers are scumbags who should have no say in how EVE is run. I can not believe I am saying this but honestly. GTFO and go play WoW.
Kitty Funtimes Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:00:00 - [157] - Quote "Is it normal to get scammed by The Mittani, Chaiman of CSM???" Yes, yes it is.
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 370	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:00:00 - [158] - Quote GM Homonoia wrote: In the end they are free to enjoy the game like any other player, /Thread.
Dyner Midgard Protectorate 15	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:01:00 - [159] - Quote Kitty Funtimes wrote: "Is it normal to get scammed by The Mittani, Chaiman of CSM???" Yes, yes it is. Wear it like a badge of honor!
Xeross155 NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation 99	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:05:00 - [160] - Quote What part of Mittens being the CEO of Goonswarm did this guy miss? Perhaps he misread "CEO of Goonswarm" as "Chribba Alt"

AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:09:00 - [161] - Quote GM Homonoia wrote: DISCLAIMER: I am not commenting, nor am I going to comment, on the particular case that is being discussed here. My comments here are simply to clarify our stance on the rights and duties of CSM members; they are in no way any indication of CCPs views on the morality of these things. Any CSM member, no matter who he or she ma be, is bound by the EULA and ToS (as any other player is) and by the NDA that they signed when they took office. Other then these rules, they are free to enjoy EVE Online in any way they see fit, no matter their chosen play style. In the end they are free to enjoy the game like any other player, as long as they do not abuse any NDA bound information to get ahead. CCP, this guy made an abuse using his CSM Chairman position to scam me. I dunno if it breaks EULA or so. But that's what he did.
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 370	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:09:00 - [162] - Quote Kitty Funtimes wrote: "Is it normal to get scammed by The Mittani, Chaiman of CSM???" Yes, yes it is. I made out with The Mittani and he stole my Gum.
KSUDruid The Riot Formation Get Off My Lawn 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:10:00 - [163] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: CCP, this guy made an abuse using his CSM Chairman position to scam me. I dunno if it breaks EULA or so. But that's what he did. This is you The rest of us reading this thread
tgl3 Wormhole Engineers Review and Evaluation Greater Realms 14	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:11:00 - [164] - Quote Helicity Boson wrote: This is why you should only use ME for your third partying. Confirming as legit.
Dyner Midgard Protectorate 15	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:11:00 - [165] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: GM Homonoia wrote: DISCLAIMER: I am not commenting, nor am I going to comment, on the particular case that is being discussed here. My comments here are simply to clarify our stance on the rights and duties of CSM members; they are in no way any indication of CCPs views on the morality of these things. Any CSM member, no matter who he or she ma be, is bound by the EULA and ToS (as any other player is) and by the NDA that they signed when they took office. Other then these rules, they are free to enjoy EVE Online in any way they see fit, no matter their chosen play style. In the end they are free to enjoy the game like any other player, as long as they do not abuse any NDA bound information to get ahead. CCP, this guy made an abuse using his CSM Chairman position to scam me. I dunno if it breaks EULA or so. But that's what he did. Reading failure, or just plane stupidity? You decide.
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 370	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:12:00 - [166] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: CCP, this guy made an abuse using his CSM Chairman position to scam me. I dunno if it breaks EULA or so. But that's what he did. Way that is phrased makes it literally sound like you are crying to your Mommy. Did he actually say that he is not allowed because he is a CSM? If not then you are sh*t outta Nyx.
tgl3 Wormhole Engineers Review and Evaluation Greater Realms 14	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:12:00 - [167] - Quote Dyner wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: GM Homonoia wrote: DISCLAIMER: I am not commenting, nor am I going to comment, on the particular case that is being discussed here. My comments here are simply to clarify our stance on the rights and duties of CSM members; they are in no way any indication of CCPs views on the morality of these things. Any CSM member, no matter who he or she ma be, is bound by the EULA and ToS (as any other player is) and by the NDA that they signed when they took office. Other then these rules, they are free to enjoy EVE Online in any way they see fit, no matter their chosen play style. In the end they are free to enjoy the game like any other player, as long as they do not abuse any NDA bound information to get ahead. CCP, this guy made an abuse using his CSM Chairman position to scam me. I dunno if it breaks EULA or so. But that's what he did. Reading failure, or just plane stupidity? You decide. The former, because of the latter.
Ai Shun State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:16:00 - [168] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: If you voted this guy as a Chairman, there's not much I can say. Vote for what? You think my vote counts for anything? It doesn't in real life, it doesn't in here either. All the big votes are made up of small, little votes.
The Groundskeeper Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 27	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:22:00 - [169] - Quote Check the so-called logs. Now count the ~tildes~. If anyone in here believes these faked logs to include the Mittani speaking despite the lack of 70 or 80 tildes dotted around the test then I have a fully-upgraded system in Outer Ring to sell you. Not to mention the lack of mentions of his sabre, his puppy, his retired-at-30ish lifestyle or a plug for his TTH column.
Daemon Ceed Brotherhood Of Treachery 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:23:00 - [170] - Quote Lulz. I'm not even a supercap pilot nor do I live in null, and even I know never to use anyone other than Chribba, regardless of their position anywhere in CCP or it's player elected representative roles. Thrawn, you did something incredibly stupid and instead of sucking it up like a man you whined about a game that is "working as intended". CCP isn't there to insure that you make smart, wise choices. They provide the sandbox and we are allowed to play in it any way we choose with a small set of rules. CCP didn't elect Mittens into office, the players did. His job is to address technical game related issues that are raised by his constituents that voted for him and present them to CCP for consideration. His duties end there. Period. You were socially engineered. Unfortunately your idiocy isn't something that the Dev's can fix. To demand that CSM members (whom's duties consist of things done outside of game, such as technical advisement) act by your criterion of moral standards while they are in-game and in-character is laughable and severely naive. Your tears, however, are delicious. BTW - If you get another Nyx, I'll buy it from you for 40bil. I happen to know a very good broker service we can use.

Xeross155 NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation 99	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:28:00 - [171] - Quote Dyner wrote: plane stupidity Plane stupidity?
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:32:00 - [172] - Quote Daemon Ceed wrote: Lulz. I'm not even a supercap pilot nor do I live in null, and even I know never to use anyone other than Chribba, regardless of their position anywhere in CCP or it's player elected representative roles. Thrawn, you did something incredibly stupid and instead of sucking it up like a man you whined about a game that is "working as intended". CCP isn't there to insure that you make smart, wise choices. They provide the sandbox and we are allowed to play in it any way we choose with a small set of rules. CCP didn't elect Mittens into office, the players did. His job is to address technical game related issues that are raised by his constituents that voted for him and present them to CCP for consideration. His duties end there. Period. You were socially engineered. Unfortunately your idiocy isn't something that the Dev's can fix. To demand that CSM members (whom's duties consist of things done outside of game, such as technical advisement) act by your criterion of moral standards while they are in-game and in-character is laughable and severely naive. Your tears, however, are delicious. BTW - If you get another Nyx, I'll buy it from you for 40bil. I happen to know a very good broker service we can use. You still don't get it. he abused me using his position. I do not whine or cry about the isk. isk is not a problem. I fell for it cos I tohught CSM actually means something. My bad.
Bernadictus S.A.S Pandemic Legion 4	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:33:00 - [173] - Quote Thinking Mittens won't scam you out of your 20b isk, is like sticking it in a Thais prostitute, without protection, thinking you won't get some horrendous disease. You've been hazed.
Dyner Midgard Protectorate 15	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:35:00 - [174] - Quote Xeross155 wrote: Dyner wrote: plane stupidity Plane stupidity? It's "plain" isn't it... ....... ..... ... .. . son of a... stupid english language...
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3067	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:35:00 - [175] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: GM Homonoia wrote: DISCLAIMER: I am not commenting, nor am I going to comment, on the particular case that is being discussed here. My comments here are simply to clarify our stance on the rights and duties of CSM members; they are in no way any indication of CCPs views on the morality of these things. Any CSM member, no matter who he or she ma be, is bound by the EULA and ToS (as any other player is) and by the NDA that they signed when they took office. Other then these rules, they are free to enjoy EVE Online in any way they see fit, no matter their chosen play style. In the end they are free to enjoy the game like any other player, as long as they do not abuse any NDA bound information to get ahead. CCP, this guy made an abuse using his CSM Chairman position to scam me. I dunno if it breaks EULA or so. But that's what he did. My understanding of what the GM just said is that even if what you say is true, then there is nothing wrong with that from the perspective of the rules established by CCP hf. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
The Mittani GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2068	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:36:00 - [176] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: You still don't get it. he abused me using his position. I do not whine or cry about the isk. isk is not a problem. I fell for it cos I tohught CSM actually means something. My bad. Even in your faked logs I didn't mention my CSM position at all. The only thing being abused, apparently, is your sense of dignity. At any rate, I flat-out deny the ~dishonourable~ suggestions of this knave. For shame, eve-o, for shame! The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues
Generals4 Caldari State 283	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:36:00 - [177] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: You still don't get it. he abused me using his position. I do not whine or cry about the isk. isk is not a problem. I fell for it cos I tohught CSM actually means something. My bad. GSF means more, always remember that. *-Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily.*
Xeross155 NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation 99	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:37:00 - [178] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: You still don't get it. he abused me using his position. I do not whine or cry about the isk. isk is not a problem. I fell for it cos I tohught CSM actually means something. My bad. Why are you QQ'ing on the forums about your own stupidity, it it to entertain the shitposters?
Borlag Crendraven EVE University Ivy League 9	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:37:00 - [179] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: You still don't get it. he abused me using his position. I do not whine or cry about the isk. isk is not a problem. I fell for it cos I tohught CSM actually means something. My bad. The only thing he abused is your ignorance of what the CSM really is, or the goons for that matter. Had you done the background checks, you would've noticed immediately that he is known to scam people, that he leads the biggest group of scammers around. For someone with the kind of money to buy supercaps in the first place, you seem to know very little of what's going on around the game. Man up and take it as a lesson learnt until you make a bigger fool out of yourself, that's about the best you can do now.
Dyner Midgard Protectorate 16	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:41:00 - [180] - Quote Borlag Crendraven wrote: [quote=AdmiraI Thrawn] For someone with the kind of money to buy supercaps in the first place, you seem to know very little of what's going on around the game. Mommy's CC and a large order of PLEX(s)

Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3067	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:41:00 - [181] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Daemon Ceed wrote: Lulz. I'm not even a supercap pilot nor do I live in null, and even I know never to use anyone other than Chribba, regardless of their position anywhere in CCP or it's player elected representative roles. Thrawn, you did something incredibly stupid and instead of sucking it up like a man you whined about a game that is "working as intended". CCP isn't there to insure that you make smart, wise choices. They provide the sandbox and we are allowed to play in it any way we choose with a small set of rules. CCP didn't elect Mittens into office, the players did. His job is to address technical game related issues that are raised by his constituents that voted for him and present them to CCP for consideration. His duties end there. Period. You were socially engineered. Unfortunately your idiocy isn't something that the Dev's can fix. To demand that CSM members (whom's duties consist of things done outside of game, such as technical advisement) act by your criterion of moral standards while they are in-game and in-character is laughable and severely naive. Your tears, however, are delicious. BTW - If you get another Nyx, I'll buy it from you for 40bil. I happen to know a very good broker service we can use. You still don't get it. he abused me using his position. I do not whine or cry about the isk. isk is not a problem. I fell for it cos I tohught CSM actually means something. My bad. It does mean something. It means "Council of Stellar Management," and the duties of that democratically elected body include talking to CCP and providing them a player's perspective on issues when asked for feedback, and serving as a liaison between CCP and the player base to ease communication. It also includes maintaining the secrecy of a Non-Disclosure Agreement, which was mentioned by a GM who responded to you. If you are imagining some other duties of the CSM, then that is your fault and not The Mittani's fault or CCP's fault or anyone else's fault but your own. Beyond being nominally a constituent of The Mittani and the other members of the CSM, you have no special relationship with the membership of that panel and you are afforded no particular exemptions or protections against player activity in EVE Online as a consequence of their positions as members of the CSM. That you believe otherwise is, again, entirely your own delusion. No wrong has been committed here, except the specific wrong of [A Player] scamming [Another Player], if we are to even believe that is what has legitimately happenedGÇöand to be perfectly honest, that is not a foregone conclusion given how much hate mail is directed at politicians in general, people in leadership positions in EVE Online more specifically, and at Goonswarm and The Mittani in particular. It is entirely possible that you made up this entire episode; but, even if you did not, then the picture you paint is one of things going exactly as they are intended to go: players in EVE Online played the game, and that is all. The End. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:41:00 - [182] - Quote The Mittani wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: You still don't get it. he abused me using his position. I do not whine or cry about the isk. isk is not a problem. I fell for it cos I tohught CSM actually means something. My bad. Even in your faked logs I didn't mention my CSM position at all. The only thing being abused, apparently, is your sense of dignity. At any rate, I flat-out deny the ~dishonourable~ suggestions of this knave. For shame, eve-o, for shame! I guess you're not that stupid and still claim that you didn't scam me :) You know that there are logs in game, right? Anyway, Goon reputation = scam. My bad I thought a CSM chairman is not like that. Spend it wisely cos I hope I will be the last one being scammed by scumbags like you.
Xeross155 NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation 99	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:43:00 - [183] - Quote Can't figure out whether this guy's spelling is consistent with the awful grammar often used by trolls or that it's even below troll levels of grammar
Tribal Solidarity Sacred Templars RED.OverLord 2	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:44:00 - [184] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: The Mittani wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: You still don't get it. he abused me using his position. I do not whine or cry about the isk. isk is not a problem. I fell for it cos I tohught CSM actually means something. My bad. Even in your faked logs I didn't mention my CSM position at all. The only thing being abused, apparently, is your sense of dignity. At any rate, I flat-out deny the ~dishonourable~ suggestions of this knave. For shame, eve-o, for shame! I guess you're not that stupid and still claim that you didn't scam me :) You know that there are logs in game, right? Anyway, Goon reputation = scam. My bad I thought a CSM chairman is not like that. Spend it wisely cos I hope I will be the last one being scammed by scumbags like you. I lol'd so hard @ this threat. Gotta <3 Goons and the pubbies they f**k with.
The Mittani GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2070	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:45:00 - [185] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Anyway, Goon reputation = scam. My bad I thought a CSM chairman is not like that. Spend it wisely cos I hope I will be the last one being scammed by scumbags like you. God, I hope not. We have hundreds of newbies to feed! The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3067	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:45:00 - [186] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: The Mittani wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: You still don't get it. he abused me using his position. I do not whine or cry about the isk. isk is not a problem. I fell for it cos I tohught CSM actually means something. My bad. Even in your faked logs I didn't mention my CSM position at all. The only thing being abused, apparently, is your sense of dignity. At any rate, I flat-out deny the ~dishonourable~ suggestions of this knave. For shame, eve-o, for shame! I guess you're not that stupid and still claim that you didn't scam me :) You know that there are logs in game, right? Anyway, Goon reputation = scam. My bad I thought a CSM chairman is not like that. Spend it wisely cos I hope I will be the last one being scammed by scumbags like you. Once more, assuming for the sake of argument that your allegations are accurate, then why did you believe that The Mittani was beholden to some sort of space bushido code of honour just because of his CSM title? In the very strictest interpretation of his position, he is beholden to you (as a member of the public) by virtue of your ability to remove him from office in the next election by voting in favor of some other candidate; but, in reality, you and I both know that The Mittani (or his chosen representative) will win any future election he desires due to the cohesion and coordination of a dedicated voting bloc. Given that to be true (which I assure you it is), even the presumption that he for some reason needs to care about you because you might cost him his unpaid, part-time, volunteer job in Iceland is rendered moot. Exactly why was it that you thought he would afford you some special consideration? Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:46:00 - [187] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Daemon Ceed wrote: Lulz. I'm not even a supercap pilot nor do I live in null, and even I know never to use anyone other than Chribba, regardless of their position anywhere in CCP or it's player elected representative roles. Thrawn, you did something incredibly stupid and instead of sucking it up like a man you whined about a game that is "working as intended". CCP isn't there to insure that you make smart, wise choices. They provide the sandbox and we are allowed to play in it any way we choose with a small set of rules. CCP didn't elect Mittens into office, the players did. His job is to address technical game related issues that are raised by his constituents that voted for him and present them to CCP for consideration. His duties end there. Period. You were socially engineered. Unfortunately your idiocy isn't something that the Dev's can fix. To demand that CSM members (whom's duties consist of things done outside of game, such as technical advisement) act by your criterion of moral standards while they are in-game and in-character is laughable and severely naive. Your tears, however, are delicious. BTW - If you get another Nyx, I'll buy it from you for 40bil. I happen to know a very good broker service we can use. You still don't get it. he abused me using his position. I do not whine or cry about the isk. isk is not a problem. I fell for it cos I tohught CSM actually means something. My bad. It does mean something. It means "Council of Stellar Management," and the duties of that democratically elected body include talking to CCP and providing them a player's perspective on issues when asked for feedback, and serving as a liaison between CCP and the player base to ease communication. It also includes maintaining the secrecy of a Non-Disclosure Agreement, which was mentioned by a GM who responded to you. If you are imagining some other duties of the CSM, then that is your fault and not The Mittani's fault or CCP's fault or anyone else's fault but your own. Beyond being nominally a constituent of The Mittani and the other members of the CSM, you have no special relationship with the membership of that panel and you are afforded no particular exemptions or protections against player activity in EVE Online as a consequence of their positions as members of the CSM. That you believe otherwise is, again, entirely your own delusion. No wrong has been committed here, except the specific wrong of [A Player] scamming [Another Player], if we are to even believe that is what has legitimately happenedGÇöand to be perfectly honest, that is not a foregone conclusion given how much hate mail is directed at politicians in general, people in leadership positions in EVE Online more specifically, and at Goonswarm and The Mittani in particular. It is entirely possible that you made up this entire episode; but, even if you did not, then the picture you paint is one of things going exactly as they are intended to go: players in EVE Online played the game, and that is all. The End. So I was right. CSM means NOTHING
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3068	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:50:00 - [188] - Quote Katrina Oniseki wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: The Mittani, I petitioned you, it should be there in game logs anyway so you better give the isk. If not, I hope CCP can investigate and see if Amara Jade was involved or not in the scam and reimburse me. The petition won't help, because he didn't break any rules. Sorry. By the way, CSM are just players who communicate with the devs, not CCP employees bound by a code of ethics. They do have ingame restrictions, like following NDA and not trying to profit off future changes to the game. (For example, if Mittani knew that, say, Scrap Metal was suddenly going to be made to refine into Megacyte , and he bought up a **** ton of Scrap Metal to sell, he would get banned.) Making a profit off overtrusting people with too much ISK however... that's fair game. It just occurred to me that this thread only found its way into C+P after several pages, and that this post was on the first page; and, yet, Admiral Thrawn is still here, a dozen pages later, not getting the message. At this point I don't think there is any real point in repeating the same thing over and over to him; either he is a troll, or he simply refuses to believe that the game could be run this way; or, some other explanation beyond my ken exists for which I feel no shame being unable to fathom or even consider. Ever the optimist, I will try one more time to connect with the dear space admiral: no rules were broken in your hypothetical allegation; this thread shall serve no purpose but to provide goons and our friends a reason to post and to "like," each other's posts here on spacebook; and, hopefully, neither you nor anyone else reading this thread will take away any reasonable knowledge from it because as Dear Leader kindly noted we are presently having a newbie recruitment drive on Something Awful and we don't want our poor newbies to go hungry because people suddenly smartened up after years of falling for the same scams. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Dyner Midgard Protectorate 16	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:50:00 - [189] - Quote We're all gonna find out that he's really a Goon alt, and they're Mega Trolling us
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3068	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:53:00 - [190] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Daemon Ceed wrote: Lulz. I'm not even a supercap pilot nor do I live in null, and even I know never to use anyone other than Chribba, regardless of their position anywhere in CCP or it's player elected representative roles. Thrawn, you did something incredibly stupid and instead of sucking it up like a man you whined about a game that is "working as intended". CCP isn't there to insure that you make smart, wise choices. They provide the sandbox and we are allowed to play in it any way we choose with a small set of rules. CCP didn't elect Mittens into office, the players did. His job is to address technical game related issues that are raised by his constituents that voted for him and present them to CCP for consideration. His duties end there. Period. You were socially engineered. Unfortunately your idiocy isn't something that the Dev's can fix. To demand that CSM members (whom's duties consist of things done outside of game, such as technical advisement) act by your criterion of moral standards while they are in-game and in-character is laughable and severely naive. Your tears, however, are delicious. BTW - If you get another Nyx, I'll buy it from you for 40bil. I happen to know a very good broker service we can use. You still don't get it. he abused me using his position. I do not whine or cry about the isk. isk is not a problem. I fell for it cos I tohught CSM actually means something. My bad. It does mean something. It means "Council of Stellar Management," and the duties of that democratically elected body include talking to CCP and providing them a player's perspective on issues when asked for feedback, and serving as a liaison between CCP and the player base to ease communication. It also includes maintaining the secrecy of a Non-Disclosure Agreement, which was mentioned by a GM who responded to you. If you are imagining some other duties of the CSM, then that is your fault and not The Mittani's fault or CCP's fault or anyone else's fault but your own. Beyond being nominally a constituent of The Mittani and the other members of the CSM, you have no special relationship with the membership of that panel and you are afforded no particular exemptions or protections against player activity in EVE Online as a consequence of their positions as members of the CSM. That you believe otherwise is, again, entirely your own delusion. No wrong has been committed here, except the specific wrong of [A Player] scamming [Another Player], if we are to even believe that is what has legitimately happenedGÇöand to be perfectly honest, that is not a foregone conclusion given how much hate mail is directed at politicians in general, people in leadership positions in EVE Online more specifically, and at Goonswarm and The Mittani in particular. It is entirely possible that you made up this entire episode; but, even if you did not, then the picture you paint is one of things going exactly as they are intended to go: players in EVE Online played the game, and that is all. The End. So I was right. CSM means NOTHING That is not what I said at all. It means something; it just means what it has been defined to mean, as opposed to whatever meaning you have internally assigned to it. Seeing as how it was CCP that created the CSM, established rules for its conduct and maintains itGÇöand not you, or me, or anyone else in this threadGÇöthen I dare say that perhaps we ought to go with their definition of what the CSM is and should be. That definition has been offered you several times in this thread, and you refuse to acknowledge it. Stop that. Reality exists, and shall exist no matter how valiantly you fight against it. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad

Ai Shun State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:53:00 - [191] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Spend it wisely cos I hope I will be the last one being scammed by scumbags like you. Space is littered with the wrecks of pilots that said that. There's a reason some corps have a reputation - you just didn't do your research and, tomorrow, a week from now, or whenever there will be somebody else chewing on that hook and out a few billion ...
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3068	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:53:00 - [192] - Quote Dyner wrote: We're all gonna find out that he's really a Goon alt, and they're Mega Trolling us It's me, I'm the pubbie. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Lors Dornick Kallisti Industries 51	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:54:00 - [193] - Quote Just hang on a second. Mittens is a Goon. A select group of people just a wee bit less likely to scam you than politicians or lawyers ... Oh, wait ...
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 1362	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:54:00 - [194] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: You don't get it, do you? In game scam is ok, is allowed, part of the game. CSM is not ingame syndicate, they actually go and meet CCP in real LIFE ! So what? The CSM didn't scam you GÇö Mittens did, which is completely unsurprising seeing as how he's the Goon CEO. Why are you so confused by this? Quote: CCP, this guy made an abuse using his CSM Chairman position to scam me. How did he do that? At no point in the log you posted does he mention his CSM chairmanship or use it as an argument why you should hand over a large sum of ISK to him. Or, to put it another wayGÇª Quote: You still don't get it. he abused me using his position. GÇªno, he didn't. He abused you using your laziness and lack of due diligence. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
The Groundskeeper Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 28	Posted - 2011.11.10 10:59:00 - [195] - Quote The Mittani wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: You still don't get it. he abused me using his position. I do not whine or cry about the isk. isk is not a problem. I fell for it cos I tohught CSM actually means something. My bad. Even in your faked logs I didn't mention my CSM position at all. The only thing being abused, apparently, is your sense of dignity. At any rate, I flat-out deny the ~dishonourable~ suggestions of this knave. For shame, eve-o, for shame! See, now there is a real mittanipost with a tilde-to-word ratio within the expected bounds, albeit at the low end of the spectrum.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3069	Posted - 2011.11.10 11:01:00 - [196] - Quote The Mittani wrote: ACE McFACE wrote: Clearly fake, The Mittani doesnt say Pubbie once Also: Theres been an influx of chat logs in GD recently It's obviously fake because I would never say o7 without o7o7o7o7o77m8m8m8 for extra irony. I do not scam. For closure I would like to point out that the exalted chairman of the Council of Stellar Management made this comment on Page 2, prior to this thread's arrival in Crime and Punishment. In this one post we are presented several reasons to disbelieve the story presented us by Admiral Thrawn, a previously unknown entity to the forum posting elite: first, we see a couple of examples cited as blatant discrepancies from The Mittani's manner of typing apparent in the obviously faked logs; second, we see that The Mittani himself blatantly denies the allegation despite the fact that he gains nothing from doing so. Consider friends that The Mittani is probably presumed to be scamming people in EVE Online every second of every day, and that it is literally impossible for a man to do that; so, there simply have to be some scams out there which simply are not conducted by Dear Leader; moreover, there simply have to be some missed opportunities, and completely imagined scenarios that never happen at all. When there is such a preponderance of evidence against the validity of this specific claim, coupled with a flat and blanket denial by the man himself who would lose nothing but the time spent typing it in admitting to the scam were it true (and whom would probably gain a lot of "likes" here on spacebook for admitting to it even were it not true), I think we can reasonably draw the conclusion that this scam did not occur at all. I also think it is a shining example of just how honest and full of integrity The Mittani really is as an individualGÇöthat is to say, very much soGÇöby exercising restraint and not buckling to the peer pressure that is no doubt right now beckoning for him to claim the scam as his own and bask in its glory. I wish that I was half the inebriated attorney this man is. You folks don't realize that The Mittani is a better chairman than any of us deserve. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3069	Posted - 2011.11.10 11:02:00 - [197] - Quote Lors Dornick wrote: Just hang on a second. Mittens is a Goon. A select group of people just a wee bit less likely to scam you than politicians or lawyers ... Oh, wait ... Mittens is also a lawyer, just FYI. Just sayin'. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Nathan Jameson Talocan Dominion Talocan United 67	Posted - 2011.11.10 11:02:00 - [198] - Quote Wasn't the "real" Admiral Thrawn renowned for his intelligence?
Dyner Midgard Protectorate 16	Posted - 2011.11.10 11:03:00 - [199] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Dyner wrote: We're all gonna find out that he's really a Goon alt, and they're Mega Trolling us It's me, I'm the pubbie. Want some candy? :P
Lors Dornick Kallisti Industries 51	Posted - 2011.11.10 11:03:00 - [200] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Lors Dornick wrote: Just hang on a second. Mittens is a Goon. A select group of people just a wee bit less likely to scam you than politicians or lawyers ... Oh, wait ... Mittens is also a lawyer, just FYI. Just sayin'. Hmm, and CSM counts as politician. Strike three ;)

Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3070	Posted - 2011.11.10 11:04:00 - [201] - Quote Tippia wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: You don't get it, do you? In game scam is ok, is allowed, part of the game. CSM is not ingame syndicate, they actually go and meet CCP in real LIFE ! So what? The CSM didn't scam you GÇö Mittens did, which is completely unsurprising seeing as how he's the Goon CEO. Why are you so confused by this? Quote: CCP, this guy made an abuse using his CSM Chairman position to scam me. How did he do that? At no point in the log you posted does he mention his CSM chairmanship or use it as an argument why you should hand over a large sum of ISK to him. Or, to put it another wayGÇª Quote: You still don't get it. he abused me using his position. GÇªno, he didn't. He abused you using your laziness and lack of due diligence. I would kindly remind you that The Mittani has not been found guilty of scamming and therefore these allegations should not be addressed with such a tone as to express presumption of fact. In fact, we ought to be going out of our way to presume that, in the lack of damning evidence and a ruling to establish guilt, The Mittani is innocent of these charges. It is better to let a hundred guilty men go free than to falsely imprison one innocent man, or mitten. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Xeross155 NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation 99	Posted - 2011.11.10 11:05:00 - [202] - Quote >MFW OP still doesn't get it http://i.imgur.com/CqcZL.jpg
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3070	Posted - 2011.11.10 11:05:00 - [203] - Quote Dyner wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: Dyner wrote: We're all gonna find out that he's really a Goon alt, and they're Mega Trolling us It's me, I'm the pubbie. Want some candy? :P Yes, please! Do I need to close my eyes? Will this involve a hose? Don't worry, I know all about this game and I came prepared. I'll be sure not to tell anyone. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 11:08:00 - [204] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Katrina Oniseki wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: The Mittani, I petitioned you, it should be there in game logs anyway so you better give the isk. If not, I hope CCP can investigate and see if Amara Jade was involved or not in the scam and reimburse me. The petition won't help, because he didn't break any rules. Sorry. By the way, CSM are just players who communicate with the devs, not CCP employees bound by a code of ethics. They do have ingame restrictions, like following NDA and not trying to profit off future changes to the game. (For example, if Mittani knew that, say, Scrap Metal was suddenly going to be made to refine into Megacyte , and he bought up a **** ton of Scrap Metal to sell, he would get banned.) Making a profit off overtrusting people with too much ISK however... that's fair game. It just occurred to me that this thread only found its way into C+P after several pages, and that this post was on the first page; and, yet, Admiral Thrawn is still here, a dozen pages later, not getting the message. At this point I don't think there is any real point in repeating the same thing over and over to him; either he is a troll, or he simply refuses to believe that the game could be run this way; or, some other explanation beyond my ken exists for which I feel no shame being unable to fathom or even consider. Ever the optimist, I will try one more time to connect with the dear space admiral: no rules were broken in your hypothetical allegation; this thread shall serve no purpose but to provide goons and our friends a reason to post and to "like," each other's posts here on spacebook; and, hopefully, neither you nor anyone else reading this thread will take away any reasonable knowledge from it because as Dear Leader kindly noted we are presently having a newbie recruitment drive on Something Awful and we don't want our poor newbies to go hungry because people suddenly smartened up after years of falling for the same scams. I don't get your the message, you don't get mine. We live in different worlds therefore we cannot agree on this subject. I don't scam people, not in game, not in real life. That's how I am. I got scammed, my bad for trusting a scumbag. End of story. I hope some other players benefit by reading this post and won't get scammed, at least not the way I was. CSM is a bunch of players that have written CSM on their avatar...At least I got that right.
Ladie Harlot GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 899	Posted - 2011.11.10 11:09:00 - [205] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: GM Homonoia wrote: DISCLAIMER: I am not commenting, nor am I going to comment, on the particular case that is being discussed here. My comments here are simply to clarify our stance on the rights and duties of CSM members; they are in no way any indication of CCPs views on the morality of these things. Any CSM member, no matter who he or she ma be, is bound by the EULA and ToS (as any other player is) and by the NDA that they signed when they took office. Other then these rules, they are free to enjoy EVE Online in any way they see fit, no matter their chosen play style. In the end they are free to enjoy the game like any other player, as long as they do not abuse any NDA bound information to get ahead. CCP, this guy made an abuse using his CSM Chairman position to scam me. I dunno if it breaks EULA or so. But that's what he did. I told you that you were going to be disappointed by CCP's response. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Tallian Saotome Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension 254	Posted - 2011.11.10 11:13:00 - [206] - Quote The Mittani wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: So, what's next ? CCP scamming ? I paid for the plex and time has not been added to my pilot license. CCP: No you didn't. I am but a humble elected representative of the people. It just so happens that the people love war, murder, scamming and sadism. vOv This needs to be your motto for the next election. Its already your platform o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/`
Dyner Midgard Protectorate 16	Posted - 2011.11.10 11:14:00 - [207] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Dyner wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: Dyner wrote: We're all gonna find out that he's really a Goon alt, and they're Mega Trolling us It's me, I'm the pubbie. Want some candy? :P Yes, please! Do I need to close my eyes? Will this involve a hose? Don't worry, I know all about this game and I came prepared. I'll be sure not to tell anyone. awwwwwwwwwwwwe-sum! This is what I have planned out for us http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kl4hJ4j48s
JitaJane Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 19	Posted - 2011.11.10 11:29:00 - [208] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Tippia wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: You don't get it, do you? In game scam is ok, is allowed, part of the game. CSM is not ingame syndicate, they actually go and meet CCP in real LIFE ! So what? The CSM didn't scam you GÇö Mittens did, which is completely unsurprising seeing as how he's the Goon CEO. Why are you so confused by this? Quote: CCP, this guy made an abuse using his CSM Chairman position to scam me. How did he do that? At no point in the log you posted does he mention his CSM chairmanship or use it as an argument why you should hand over a large sum of ISK to him. Or, to put it another wayGÇª Quote: You still don't get it. he abused me using his position. GÇªno, he didn't. He abused you using your laziness and lack of due diligence. I would kindly remind you that The Mittani has not been found guilty of scamming and therefore these allegations should not be addressed with such a tone as to express presumption of fact. In fact, we ought to be going out of our way to presume that, in the lack of damning evidence and a ruling to establish guilt, The Mittani is innocent of these charges. It is better to let a hundred guilty men go free than to falsely imprison one innocent man, or mitten. Non issue. I hereby accuse the mitani of flying spaceships, and fitting them, and all sorts of normal parts of the Eve game mechanic....
Tallian Saotome Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension 255	Posted - 2011.11.10 11:38:00 - [209] - Quote Dyner wrote: Ladie Harlot wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Pathetic is one of the words that can pretty much describe you guys. Spacerich is another word that can describe us. Thanks for helping out with that. Goonswarm, we are the 0.01% :P Your all the females in eve? o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/`
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3075	Posted - 2011.11.10 11:42:00 - [210] - Quote Tallian Saotome wrote: Dyner wrote: Ladie Harlot wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Pathetic is one of the words that can pretty much describe you guys. Spacerich is another word that can describe us. Thanks for helping out with that. Goonswarm, we are the 0.01% :P Your all the females in eve? I know of at least five women in Theta Squad alone. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad

Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3075	Posted - 2011.11.10 11:44:00 - [211] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: Katrina Oniseki wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: The Mittani, I petitioned you, it should be there in game logs anyway so you better give the isk. If not, I hope CCP can investigate and see if Amara Jade was involved or not in the scam and reimburse me. The petition won't help, because he didn't break any rules. Sorry. By the way, CSM are just players who communicate with the devs, not CCP employees bound by a code of ethics. They do have ingame restrictions, like following NDA and not trying to profit off future changes to the game. (For example, if Mittani knew that, say, Scrap Metal was suddenly going to be made to refine into Megacyte , and he bought up a **** ton of Scrap Metal to sell, he would get banned.) Making a profit off overtrusting people with too much ISK however... that's fair game. It just occurred to me that this thread only found its way into C+P after several pages, and that this post was on the first page; and, yet, Admiral Thrawn is still here, a dozen pages later, not getting the message. At this point I don't think there is any real point in repeating the same thing over and over to him; either he is a troll, or he simply refuses to believe that the game could be run this way; or, some other explanation beyond my ken exists for which I feel no shame being unable to fathom or even consider. Ever the optimist, I will try one more time to connect with the dear space admiral: no rules were broken in your hypothetical allegation; this thread shall serve no purpose but to provide goons and our friends a reason to post and to "like," each other's posts here on spacebook; and, hopefully, neither you nor anyone else reading this thread will take away any reasonable knowledge from it because as Dear Leader kindly noted we are presently having a newbie recruitment drive on Something Awful and we don't want our poor newbies to go hungry because people suddenly smartened up after years of falling for the same scams. I don't get your the message, you don't get mine. We live in different worlds therefore we cannot agree on this subject. I don't scam people, not in game, not in real life. That's how I am. I got scammed, my bad for trusting a scumbag. End of story. I hope some other players benefit by reading this post and won't get scammed, at least not the way I was. CSM is a bunch of players that have written CSM on their avatar...At least I got that right. I get your message: you believe that the members of the CSM are or should be held to an ethical code of conduct with regards to their interactions with other players. My message is simply that they are not. This is not an opinion-based argument; it is a statement of facts and policy, which coincidentally has been confirmed by a GM response. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Dyner Midgard Protectorate 17	Posted - 2011.11.10 11:44:00 - [212] - Quote Tallian Saotome wrote: Dyner wrote: Ladie Harlot wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Pathetic is one of the words that can pretty much describe you guys. Spacerich is another word that can describe us. Thanks for helping out with that. Goonswarm, we are the 0.01% :P Your all the females in eve? Someone hasn't been made aware of the Occupy Protest
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 374	Posted - 2011.11.10 11:45:00 - [213] - Quote Dyner wrote: awwwwwwwwwwwwe-sum! This is what I have planned out for us http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kl4hJ4j48s **** You. Know I am stuck on Disney Songs.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3075	Posted - 2011.11.10 11:46:00 - [214] - Quote Tallian Saotome wrote: The Mittani wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: So, what's next ? CCP scamming ? I paid for the plex and time has not been added to my pilot license. CCP: No you didn't. I am but a humble elected representative of the people. It just so happens that the people love war, murder, scamming and sadism. vOv This needs to be your motto for the next election. Its already your platform I regret that I have but one "like" to give per post. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Sutskop PILSGESCHWADER Monkey Circus 5	Posted - 2011.11.10 11:46:00 - [215] - Quote So you did no research whatsoever but counted on AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn > you recommended him Seriously? So much effort for 20b? And now you come to the forums asking what the CSM is actually doing? I think it's pretty noble the buyer offered to split the loss, but obviously you were both clueless.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3075	Posted - 2011.11.10 11:48:00 - [216] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: Dyner wrote: awwwwwwwwwwwwe-sum! This is what I have planned out for us http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kl4hJ4j48s **** You. Now I am stuck on Disney Songs. Every time that I hear or read someone say "deception" or "scam," in EVE Online, I get "Not One of Us," from The Lion King 2 stuck in my head; sometimes, I go and watch it on YouTube, and the next thing you know it's "Be Prepared," "Hakuna Matata," "Prince Ali," and dear god there are just so many songs from my childhood that I only ever hear when the muse strikes me in the form of someone in EVE Online talking about doing mean things to other players. I think this might be some sort of psychological deficit on my part, that I associate these pleasant memories and fanciful songs with the dystopian space-libertarianism of EVE Online. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Dyner Midgard Protectorate 17	Posted - 2011.11.10 11:52:00 - [217] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: Dyner wrote: awwwwwwwwwwwwe-sum! This is what I have planned out for us http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kl4hJ4j48s **** You. Now I am stuck on Disney Songs. Work here is done...ish
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 376	Posted - 2011.11.10 12:20:00 - [218] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Every time that I hear or read someone say "deception" or "scam," in EVE Online, I get "Not One of Us," from The Lion King 2 stuck in my head; sometimes, I go and watch it on YouTube, and the next thing you know it's "Be Prepared," "Hakuna Matata," "Prince Ali," and dear god there are just so many songs from my childhood that I only ever hear when the muse strikes me in the form of someone in EVE Online talking about doing mean things to other players. I think this might be some sort of psychological deficit on my part, that I associate these pleasant memories and fanciful songs with the dystopian space-libertarianism of EVE Online. I still watch Lilo and Stitch from time to time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmdx7C_R6rA Lilo is so disturbing, lying about being beaten with bricks to a Social Worker, and she just goes to town on some kids face with her fist. So glad Disney grew a pair.
Tallian Saotome Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension 255	Posted - 2011.11.10 12:41:00 - [219] - Quote Dyner wrote: Tallian Saotome wrote: Dyner wrote: Ladie Harlot wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Pathetic is one of the words that can pretty much describe you guys. Spacerich is another word that can describe us. Thanks for helping out with that. Goonswarm, we are the 0.01% :P Your all the females in eve? Someone hasn't been made aware of the Occupy Protest I am aware, but I am also aware the in eve, the 1% worth mention is the female population of our fair universe. Dam, I just realized how twisted and kinky this game really is o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/`
Archare SKEET ELITE 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 13:37:00 - [220] - Quote to the OP This could be you! tho i hear goons charge 250 mil to join as a spai

Amara Jade Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2011.11.10 13:56:00 - [221] - Quote Quote: I feel it is necessary to defend my good name. You were in possession of 48k contraband Oxygen Isotopes, hasn't anyone told you about Gallente ice? Regardless though, I'm the victim here - I never have and never will scam anyone, and now I have to go through my eve life (because eve is real) always looking over my shoulder for when you decide to spend more isk on this incident because of a misunderstanding and faked chatlogs (since when do I type 400 words per minute?). In the words of the Father, :cripes: Quote: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nyx From: Acwron To: Amara Jade INBOX Remove Label I'll tell you that then : I will hire people ( mercenaries ), track you down ( you know, there's some locators that helps with that ) and will pop the Nyx, whatever alts you have related to this character. I have isk, alot of isk...And I don't like being scammed. For that reason I will spend alot to see you going down. So if you wanna prove that you did not want to scam me, send me back the isk or fly my ******* Nyx back to Period Basis. I proved that I was honest and gave you the Nyx, now it's your turn. Looking forward to solve it in a nice way otherwise will be the highway.
Sverige Pahis Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation 277	Posted - 2011.11.10 14:07:00 - [222] - Quote Selling The Mittani and Amara Jade corpses 1b each payment to be received beforehand
Konno Yoshiho GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 16	Posted - 2011.11.10 14:20:00 - [223] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Dear CCP, Those evil Goonies said they would only stick the tip in. But they lied and went balls deep. Now my *** hurts. My * hurts bad. Please, please make my *** feel better. P.S. I was also promised a cuddle and breakfast. All I got was a pat on the head and a Pop-Tart. This injustice will not stand! Love Admiral Thrawn.
proxwar Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 14:25:00 - [224] - Quote My mind boggles at the amount of people still unaware of how honestly challenged all of the goons are. Seriously, anyone who still gets scammed by them deserve it tbh. P.S. I will kill and pod Mittens and deliver the corspe personally for just 1b, payment upfront of course.
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 2	Posted - 2011.11.10 14:25:00 - [225] - Quote Amara Jade wrote: Quote: I feel it is necessary to defend my good name. You were in possession of 48k contraband Oxygen Isotopes, hasn't anyone told you about Gallente ice? Regardless though, I'm the victim here - I never have and never will scam anyone, and now I have to go through my eve life (because eve is real) always looking over my shoulder for when you decide to spend more isk on this incident because of a misunderstanding and faked chatlogs (since when do I type 400 words per minute?). In the words of the Father, :cripes: Quote: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nyx From: Acwron To: Amara Jade INBOX Remove Label I'll tell you that then : I will hire people ( mercenaries ), track you down ( you know, there's some locators that helps with that ) and will pop the Nyx, whatever alts you have related to this character. I have isk, alot of isk...And I don't like being scammed. For that reason I will spend alot to see you going down. So if you wanna prove that you did not want to scam me, send me back the isk or fly my ******* Nyx back to Period Basis. I proved that I was honest and gave you the Nyx, now it's your turn. Looking forward to solve it in a nice way otherwise will be the highway. LOL fake chat logs ! Why should I ever waste time to fake some logs for the benefit of whom? You even had the guts to ask for 5 more bil to give me back my Nyx. 5 bil which ofc would've been wasted as well. At least you didn't fake my email, what's in there is written by me. I have reasons to believe that you are connected to the High Master CSM Chairman. If you are not and want to prove wrong, do what I asked, do what I did : I did trust you and delivered the Nyx to you with the fit I specified on forum, you do the same for me : then I will send you thru Chribba or Darknesss 10 bil back so we can split the loss. Otherwise, as I stated : there are always mercenaries to hire, there are always people who hate goons...Sooner or later you will go down. Not for 20 bil, it's not about isk, it's just because I hate scammers.
Borlag Crendraven EVE University Ivy League 9	Posted - 2011.11.10 14:52:00 - [226] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Otherwise, as I stated : there are always mercenaries to hire, there are always people who hate goons...Sooner or later you will go down. Not for 20 bil, it's not about isk, it's just because I hate scammers. So, not only do you lose 20B by falling for the scam, you'll now lose even more to try and get back. Should we expect another thead like this titled "mercenaries stole 5B from me and didn't kill Mittani or that other guy like I asked"?
Phoenix Kar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 14:57:00 - [227] - Quote Not to worry, mr Thrawn sir. I found indisputable evidence that should restore your sense of self-worth and pride!
Tallian Saotome Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension 257	Posted - 2011.11.10 15:10:00 - [228] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Otherwise, as I stated : there are always mercenaries to hire, there are always people who hate goons...Sooner or later you will go down. Not for 20 bil, it's not about isk, it's just because I hate scammers. I'm pretty sure he will get some Mittens corpses if he hires mercs to get him some. Most of those merc corps will do what they are paid for if they take the job. ofc, there is a fair chance they will just buy the corpses from him o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/`
MissyFire Texas Deep Space Texas. 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 15:16:00 - [229] - Quote I want to thank the OP and all the poster children in this thread. I may have laughed so hard I pee'd myself just a little!
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 3	Posted - 2011.11.10 15:17:00 - [230] - Quote Borlag Crendraven wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Otherwise, as I stated : there are always mercenaries to hire, there are always people who hate goons...Sooner or later you will go down. Not for 20 bil, it's not about isk, it's just because I hate scammers. So, not only do you lose 20B by falling for the scam, you'll now lose even more to try and get back. Should we expect another thead like this titled "mercenaries stole 5B from me and didn't kill Mittani or that other guy like I asked"? I think the mercenaries will do what they're asked for, otherwise they wouldn't build the reputation as good mercenaries...I don't care about Mittani as a person...he proves that he is just a small crook...a goon leader to set such a scam is a tiny little sad fecktard. That's all. I will follow my principles : Who fucks with me better be ready for a long **...Cos I wanna ** his brains out ^^

Doctor Ungabungas GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 39	Posted - 2011.11.10 15:20:00 - [231] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Borlag Crendraven wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Otherwise, as I stated : there are always mercenaries to hire, there are always people who hate goons...Sooner or later you will go down. Not for 20 bil, it's not about isk, it's just because I hate scammers. So, not only do you lose 20B by falling for the scam, you'll now lose even more to try and get back. Should we expect another thead like this titled "mercenaries stole 5B from me and didn't kill Mittani or that other guy like I asked"? I think the mercenaries will do what they're asked for, otherwise they wouldn't build the reputation as good mercenaries...I don't care about Mittani as a person...he proves that he is just a small crook...a goon leader to set such a scam is a tiny little sad fecktard. That's all. I will follow my principles : Who fucks with me better be ready for a long **...Cos I wanna his brains out ^^ If you want mittani corpses just come to a goon fleet fight, we all gotta die sometime. You can grab one and ** it senseless. I'll hook you up with a pre-prepared one for a small fee.
Borlag Crendraven EVE University Ivy League 9	Posted - 2011.11.10 15:22:00 - [232] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: I think the mercenaries will do what they're asked for, otherwise they wouldn't build the reputation as good mercenaries...I don't care about Mittani as a person...he proves that he is just a small crook...a goon leader to set such a scam is a tiny little sad fecktard. That's all. I will follow my principles : Who fucks with me better be ready for a long **...Cos I wanna ** his brains out ^^ Of course, but based on this thread and all your responses to it, it doesn't seem like you learnt your lesson which is never trust anyone blindly. If you'd handle hiring the mercenaries like you handled this trade, you could just as well hire Mittani himself to deliver a corpse for you. Then again that would just make this even more hilarious, you hiring some goons alt to handle the mercenary contract.
Taiwanistan Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation 10	Posted - 2011.11.10 15:33:00 - [233] - Quote the csm is not nothing! the csm heard the fury of the multitude, and killed incarna for all of us you ungrateful git stupid incarna lovin pedestrians
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 3	Posted - 2011.11.10 15:34:00 - [234] - Quote Borlag Crendraven wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: I think the mercenaries will do what they're asked for, otherwise they wouldn't build the reputation as good mercenaries...I don't care about Mittani as a person...he proves that he is just a small crook...a goon leader to set such a scam is a tiny little sad fecktard. That's all. I will follow my principles : Who fucks with me better be ready for a long **...Cos I wanna ** his brains out ^^ Of course, but based on this thread and all your responses to it, it doesn't seem like you learnt your lesson which is never trust anyone blindly. If you'd handle hiring the mercenaries like you handled this trade, you could just as well hire Mittani himself to deliver a corpse for you. Then again that would just make this even more hilarious, you hiring some goons alt to handle the mercenary contract. I lost some internet space money, he lost his dignity...if he ever had any. I will never be mad at me for trusting someone. If you do a mistake once, it's ok...if you do it twice then you might be stupid.
Borlag Crendraven EVE University Ivy League 9	Posted - 2011.11.10 15:39:00 - [235] - Quote That's just it, he didn't lose anything. Everyone who follow what's going on around the game knows about him and his reputation both in game and in the CSM. If you'd look around this thread, you'd quickly see that you're the only one in the dark about that.
Din'stalor Alaric BOAE INC BricK sQuAD. 24	Posted - 2011.11.10 15:41:00 - [236] - Quote TL:DR - You got scammed by a goon, nothing new here. Simple scam, Buyer contacts seller. They agree price and buyer suggests 3rd party. 3rd party confirms isk sent. Nyx is transfered. Everyone goes home. Problem - 3rd party and buyer knew each other. No isk was sent, 3rd party lies, and buyer gets a free Nyx. Seller gets butt hurt and cries to CCP and C&P. Time to move on. Nice scam btw.
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 3	Posted - 2011.11.10 16:24:00 - [237] - Quote Din'stalor Alaric wrote: TL:DR - You got scammed by a goon, nothing new here. Simple scam, Buyer contacts seller. They agree price and buyer suggests 3rd party. 3rd party confirms isk sent. Nyx is transfered. Everyone goes home. Problem - 3rd party and buyer knew each other. No isk was sent, 3rd party lies, and buyer gets a free Nyx. Seller gets butt hurt and cries to CCP and C&P. Time to move on. Nice scam btw. I was indeed tricked by the CSM thing. Why do they have that CSM **** on their avatar? Cos as far as I understand, they are a bunch of nobodies...why CCP gave them that CSM thingie? I got scammed cos of it. Thank you CCP...I'm looking forward to move along to a better game, you can freeze in Iceland :)) btw : Why they didn't set some sort of a contract that could be made for Supers and Titans? I mean, for a freaking frigate u can set up a contract and cannot be scammed...but for a Super or Titan, you have to trust a 3rd party...So where I have to buy/sell a big ship which involves quite a big amount of money, there is no guarantee like a contract or so. What if Chribba decides for once"Not giving ISK to the Seller" day. Would you ever believe the seller? Ofc not, Chribba never scams ! Even if he does it :) They allow and also control the chaos. For some reason, they think it must be good.
Max50 Parental Control Merciless. 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 16:24:00 - [238] - Quote Whats that CSM everyone is talking about?
Krios Ahzek Juvenis Iratus 77	Posted - 2011.11.10 16:28:00 - [239] - Quote It should be a crime to own a supercap and not read the forums. +1 for this trusted third party service. (It's actually a third party humor service, and it never disappoints) I have no tears to cry.
Lunas Whisper Chillwater Ltd Imperial Ascension 12	Posted - 2011.11.10 16:29:00 - [240] - Quote Nemesis Factor wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: The Mittani, I petitioned you, it should be there in game logs anyway so you better give the isk. If not, I hope CCP can investigate and see if Amara Jade was involved or not in the scam and reimburse me. I can't imagine how you feel, I have never even seen 3 billion isk, but I would get sick to my stomach if I even lost one. But I really don't see them fixing this. It's happened over and over, and is a legitimate part of the game. There is NO ONE you can trust implicitly in this game. If you understand that and believe it, you cannot honestly petition the scam. Next time wait for Chribba to log in. If you have the bil to buy the ship, you have the time in the game to know, do not trust goons. You have the time in the game to know, that Chribba is the 3rd party you trust. You also know darn well, that scams, theft, betrayal, griefing, are an integral part of the game.

Konno Yoshiho GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 16	Posted - 2011.11.10 16:33:00 - [241] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Thank you CCP...I'm looking forward to move along to a better game, you can freeze in Iceland :)) I will help you liquidate your remaining assets. You can contract all your personal belongings to Konno Yoshiho in game.
Lunas Whisper Chillwater Ltd Imperial Ascension 12	Posted - 2011.11.10 16:36:00 - [242] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Katrina Oniseki wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Channel ID: -26188450 Channel Name: Group Chat (Acwron, Amara Jade) Listener: AdmiraI Thrawn Session started: 2011.11.10 05:59:49 I think CCP can track down this convo quite easily. I hope this guy is going down or I get reimbursement. What is CSM doing for us anyway? Scamming? CCP, is this real ??? Are you dense or just trolling? It's already been said multiple times in this thread, nothing can be done. You fell for a scam. There are *NO RULES* preventing a CSM member from scamming. There are some morale rules. What is CSM doing again? For me, as a player and for the community...Beside scamming... This is EVE Morales smorales and really your expecting a GOON to follow YOUR morals?! 0.0 While your at it, maybe you can expect low sec pirate corps to not shoot you either, if you fly a hulk into low sec and don't pay the ransom.
Atomik Harmonik Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 2	Posted - 2011.11.10 16:52:00 - [243] - Quote I like turtles
Lunas Whisper Chillwater Ltd Imperial Ascension 12	Posted - 2011.11.10 16:56:00 - [244] - Quote Dyner wrote: This is truly an outrage. Mittani, you should be ashamed..... .....ashamed you didn't pod-kill him Cripes this carebear wants to shoot him(Admiral I can't google) as well. Maybe it'll knock some sense into him. But I won't hold my breath.
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 3	Posted - 2011.11.10 16:59:00 - [245] - Quote [quote=This is EVE Morales smorales and really your expecting a GOON to follow YOUR morals?! 0.0 While your at it, maybe you can expect low sec pirate corps to not shoot you either, if you fly a hulk into low sec and don't pay the ransom. [/quote] I did hear about goons being scammers...I just didn't expect a CSM, the CSM chairman even to be one of them. I bought ships from Morsus Mihi with 3rd party, found that guy I bought from quite a nice and fun guy...they are red to us but that didn't stop us have a fun chat and do business. So all in all lead me into mistake. I thought pvp is pvp, we shake hands, say gf and no hard feelings. I also thought that CSM are some guys that help CCP to improve the game and make our wishes get to CCP. Oh ****, I was wrong and payed 20 bil to realize it. Still don't know why they appear on forum with that CSM thingie. Could you please set there CSM SCAMMER? So we all know ? Thanks,
Lunas Whisper Chillwater Ltd Imperial Ascension 12	Posted - 2011.11.10 17:00:00 - [246] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Ladie Harlot wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Pathetic is one of the words that can pretty much describe you guys. Spacerich is another word that can describe us. Thanks for helping out with that. Get a face job, really... I'm waiting for a CCP opinion about this...really curious The word you are looking for is face lift. I don't know what country you hail from. But here is a clue, just because someone is elected into a posistion does not make them trustworthy. For that matter, just because someone is a govt official, doesn't make them A. good at it, or B, honest. A healthy dose of skepticism will do you well.
Lunas Whisper Chillwater Ltd Imperial Ascension 12	Posted - 2011.11.10 17:03:00 - [247] - Quote SMT008 wrote: ITT, Admiral Whatever went in the Lions' cage with a meat-suit. With CCP, Mittens in a Chairman. Ingame, he is just a regular dude that likes to fsck over other peoples. Oh and you might want to read this, It's probably what CCP is going to tell you : EULA link to the rules of EVE http://www.eveonline.com/pnp/eula.asp This is what CCP will fix. Please to be reading very carefully.
Cerisia Caldari Provisions Caldari State 377	Posted - 2011.11.10 17:05:00 - [248] - Quote At the start of this thread I kinda felt sorry for the chump who donated 20 bil to GSF, as the thread went on and I saw how little he actually knew about Mittens or indeed GSF, or the CSM I realised that he deserved everything he got. He actually gave a huge amount of money to a Goon without doing any research at all into either the CSM , Mittens , or GSF. Man , you deserved everything that happened to you. I wouldn't trust a goon with 20 isk , let alone 20 bil (no offence guys it's just you have a bit of a reputation , one that clearly the OP seemed to miss completely) This space for rent..
Lunas Whisper Chillwater Ltd Imperial Ascension 13	Posted - 2011.11.10 17:07:00 - [249] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: KSUDruid wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: I'm waiting for a CCP opinion about this...really curious Build a bridge and get over it... CCP can't help because Mittani hasn't broken any rules. If he had broken the rules/EULA whatever then sure, CCP would look favourably towards you. However in this instance, you made a mistake therefore no rules were broken. If you wish to unsub your accounts then so be it, you will still be out of said 20bill, someone is flying a nyx and the rest of us can have a laugh. Enjoy WoW won't you You don't get it, do you? In game scam is ok, is allowed, part of the game. CSM is not ingame syndicate, they actually go and meet CCP in real LIFE ! So CCP deals with scumbags about my future in game? I don't like that, I vote NO ! Let me put it this way. CSM are not part of CCP. CSM's are not CCP employees. CSM's pay to play the game. If people voted for me, I would be a CSM. I get to go to iceland two times a year, hang out. I get to attend meetings with CCP Dev's and shoot the breeze. But that would not make me a CCP employee, just a player, that the rest of eve liked enough to vote to go off and get drunk with the dev's. If I scam you, pod you, take your assets, blow up your alliance, wage war on you, I am free to do that.
Zions Child Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance 43	Posted - 2011.11.10 17:09:00 - [250] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Quote: This is EVE Morales smorales and really your expecting a GOON to follow YOUR morals?! 0.0 While your at it, maybe you can expect low sec pirate corps to not shoot you either, if you fly a hulk into low sec and don't pay the ransom. I did hear about goons being scammers...I just didn't expect a CSM, the CSM chairman even to be one of them. I bought ships from Morsus Mihi with 3rd party, found that guy I bought from quite a nice and fun guy...they are red to us but that didn't stop us have a fun chat and do business. So all in all lead me into mistake. I thought pvp is pvp, we shake hands, say gf and no hard feelings. I also thought that CSM are some guys that help CCP to improve the game and make our wishes get to CCP. Oh ****, I was wrong and payed 20 bil to realize it. Still don't know why they appear on forum with that CSM thingie. Could you please set there CSM SCAMMER? So we all know ? Thanks, You are absolutely terrible at EVE. You're also terrible at posting, and appear to have deep seated trust issues. Namely, that you trust people waaay to easily. By the way, the saying "there is no such thing as a wrong opinion" is, in fact, wrong. There is such a thing as a wrong opinion, and your opinion that you deserve recompense for being scammed by a player is an opinion that is, in fact, wrong.

Lunas Whisper Chillwater Ltd Imperial Ascension 13	Posted - 2011.11.10 17:10:00 - [251] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: GM Homonoia wrote: DISCLAIMER: I am not commenting, nor am I going to comment, on the particular case that is being discussed here. My comments here are simply to clarify our stance on the rights and duties of CSM members; they are in no way any indication of CCPs views on the morality of these things. Any CSM member, no matter who he or she ma be, is bound by the EULA and ToS (as any other player is) and by the NDA that they signed when they took office. Other then these rules, they are free to enjoy EVE Online in any way they see fit, no matter their chosen play style. In the end they are free to enjoy the game like any other player, as long as they do not abuse any NDA bound information to get ahead. CCP, this guy made an abuse using his CSM Chairman position to scam me. I dunno if it breaks EULA or so. But that's what he did. No, he did not. He used your naivety and inability to do a 5 minute google search to scam you. The fact that you felt you could trust a CSM, without doing any checking, is on you, not him.
Day Tradin Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2011.11.10 17:11:00 - [252] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Still don't know why they appear on forum with that CSM thingie. Could you please set there CSM SCAMMER? So we all know ? The Mittiani already has "scammer" listed. You see where it says "Goonswarm"?
Zions Child Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance 43	Posted - 2011.11.10 17:12:00 - [253] - Quote Lunas Whisper wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: GM Homonoia wrote: DISCLAIMER: I am not commenting, nor am I going to comment, on the particular case that is being discussed here. My comments here are simply to clarify our stance on the rights and duties of CSM members; they are in no way any indication of CCPs views on the morality of these things. Any CSM member, no matter who he or she ma be, is bound by the EULA and ToS (as any other player is) and by the NDA that they signed when they took office. Other then these rules, they are free to enjoy EVE Online in any way they see fit, no matter their chosen play style. In the end they are free to enjoy the game like any other player, as long as they do not abuse any NDA bound information to get ahead. CCP, this guy made an abuse using his CSM Chairman position to scam me. I dunno if it breaks EULA or so. But that's what he did. No, he did not. He used your naivety and inability to do a 5 minute google search to scam you. The fact that you felt you could trust a CSM, without doing any checking, is on you, not him. Five minutes? More like five seconds.
Lunas Whisper Chillwater Ltd Imperial Ascension 13	Posted - 2011.11.10 17:15:00 - [254] - Quote Daemon Ceed wrote: Lulz. I'm not even a supercap pilot nor do I live in null, and even I know never to use anyone other than Chribba, regardless of their position anywhere in CCP or it's player elected representative roles. Thrawn, you did something incredibly stupid and instead of sucking it up like a man you whined about a game that is "working as intended". CCP isn't there to insure that you make smart, wise choices. They provide the sandbox and we are allowed to play in it any way we choose with a small set of rules. CCP didn't elect Mittens into office, the players did. His job is to address technical game related issues that are raised by his constituents that voted for him and present them to CCP for consideration. His duties end there. Period. You were socially engineered. Unfortunately your idiocy isn't something that the Dev's can fix. To demand that CSM members (whom's duties consist of things done outside of game, such as technical advisement) act by your criterion of moral standards while they are in-game and in-character is laughable and severely naive. Your tears, however, are delicious. BTW - If you get another Nyx, I'll buy it from you for 40bil. I happen to know a very good broker service we can use. Bolding the part you really need to read and read and read and read some more. CCP, gives us the sandbox, how we play in this sandbox(with very little oversight) is up to us. This is a game for adults. If you want to make someone pay for hurting you, there are mechanism for that IN THE GAME. Hell a simple read through Crime and Punishment gives you the mechanisms to make those 2849eaqkidkl593108de's pay.
Lunas Whisper Chillwater Ltd Imperial Ascension 13	Posted - 2011.11.10 17:16:00 - [255] - Quote Zions Child wrote: Lunas Whisper wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: GM Homonoia wrote: DISCLAIMER: I am not commenting, nor am I going to comment, on the particular case that is being discussed here. My comments here are simply to clarify our stance on the rights and duties of CSM members; they are in no way any indication of CCPs views on the morality of these things. Any CSM member, no matter who he or she ma be, is bound by the EULA and ToS (as any other player is) and by the NDA that they signed when they took office. Other then these rules, they are free to enjoy EVE Online in any way they see fit, no matter their chosen play style. In the end they are free to enjoy the game like any other player, as long as they do not abuse any NDA bound information to get ahead. CCP, this guy made an abuse using his CSM Chairman position to scam me. I dunno if it breaks EULA or so. But that's what he did. No, he did not. He used your naivety and inability to do a 5 minute google search to scam you. The fact that you felt you could trust a CSM, without doing any checking, is on you, not him. Five minutes? More like five seconds. I'm taking into account two fingered typing, because not everyone can type fast.
Lunas Whisper Chillwater Ltd Imperial Ascension 13	Posted - 2011.11.10 17:20:00 - [256] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Daemon Ceed wrote: Lulz. I'm not even a supercap pilot nor do I live in null, and even I know never to use anyone other than Chribba, regardless of their position anywhere in CCP or it's player elected representative roles. Thrawn, you did something incredibly stupid and instead of sucking it up like a man you whined about a game that is "working as intended". CCP isn't there to insure that you make smart, wise choices. They provide the sandbox and we are allowed to play in it any way we choose with a small set of rules. CCP didn't elect Mittens into office, the players did. His job is to address technical game related issues that are raised by his constituents that voted for him and present them to CCP for consideration. His duties end there. Period. You were socially engineered. Unfortunately your idiocy isn't something that the Dev's can fix. To demand that CSM members (whom's duties consist of things done outside of game, such as technical advisement) act by your criterion of moral standards while they are in-game and in-character is laughable and severely naive. Your tears, however, are delicious. BTW - If you get another Nyx, I'll buy it from you for 40bil. I happen to know a very good broker service we can use. You still don't get it. he abused me using his position. I do not whine or cry about the isk. isk is not a problem. I fell for it cos I tohught CSM actually means something. My bad. It does mean something. It means "Council of Stellar Management," and the duties of that democratically elected body include talking to CCP and providing them a player's perspective on issues when asked for feedback, and serving as a liaison between CCP and the player base to ease communication. It also includes maintaining the secrecy of a Non-Disclosure Agreement, which was mentioned by a GM who responded to you. If you are imagining some other duties of the CSM, then that is your fault and not The Mittani's fault or CCP's fault or anyone else's fault but your own. Beyond being nominally a constituent of The Mittani and the other members of the CSM, you have no special relationship with the membership of that panel and you are afforded no particular exemptions or protections against player activity in EVE Online as a consequence of their positions as members of the CSM. That you believe otherwise is, again, entirely your own delusion. No wrong has been committed here, except the specific wrong of [A Player] scamming [Another Player], if we are to even believe that is what has legitimately happenedGÇöand to be perfectly honest, that is not a foregone conclusion given how much hate mail is directed at politicians in general, people in leadership positions in EVE Online more specifically, and at Goonswarm and The Mittani in particular. It is entirely possible that you made up this entire episode; but, even if you did not, then the picture you paint is one of things going exactly as they are intended to go: players in EVE Online played the game, and that is all. The End. So I was right. CSM means NOTHING How old are you? What country do you hail from?
Lunas Whisper Chillwater Ltd Imperial Ascension 13	Posted - 2011.11.10 17:24:00 - [257] - Quote Konno Yoshiho wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Dear CCP, Those evil Goonies said they would only stick the tip in. But they lied and went balls deep. Now my *** hurts. My * hurts bad. Please, please make my *** feel better. P.S. I was also promised a cuddle and breakfast. All I got was a pat on the head and a Pop-Tart. This injustice will not stand! Love Admiral Thrawn. +1 I loled so hard I cried.
Xython Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 216	Posted - 2011.11.10 17:24:00 - [258] - Quote Jada Maroo wrote: Is it normal? Yes. Should he be allowed to use his position as CSM head to imply a sort of legitimacy and aid in his scams? No. Not only is it lazy and effortless, it gives him an edge over other scammers. Where did he do that?
Killstealing Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild 138	Posted - 2011.11.10 17:25:00 - [259] - Quote hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha oh and mittani has the combined income of 76 tek moons so he really only does it for hilarious ** like this GJ op you gave 20b isk to someone who doesnt give a ** about you smooth move
Cobalt Valkyrie Dead Pilots Society Chaos Theory Alliance 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 17:33:00 - [260] - Quote Tippia wrote: Of course. He wouldn't be much of a player representative if he didn't, now would he? QFT

Eladaris Excessum Industries Excessum Gaming 110	Posted - 2011.11.10 17:34:00 - [261] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: CCP, this guy made an abuse using his CSM Chairman position to scam me. I dunno if it breaks EULA or so. But that's what he did. Please please please, never stop posting! And if you put up a blog post about this let us know so we can madly F5 it as well!
Eladaris Excessum Industries Excessum Gaming 110	Posted - 2011.11.10 17:36:00 - [262] - Quote Double posting on Eve-O? for shame.
Konno Yoshiho GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 16	Posted - 2011.11.10 17:53:00 - [263] - Quote Eladaris wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Borlag Crendraven wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Otherwise, as I stated : there are always mercenaries to hire, there are always people who hate goons...Sooner or later you will go down. Not for 20 bil, it's not about isk, it's just because I hate scammers. So, not only do you lose 20B by falling for the scam, you'll now lose even more to try and get back. Should we expect another thead like this titled "mercenaries stole 5B from me and didn't kill Mittani or that other guy like I asked"? I think the mercenaries will do what they're asked for, otherwise they wouldn't build the reputation as good mercenaries...I don't care about Mittani as a person...he proves that he is just a small crook...a goon leader to set such a scam is a tiny little sad fecktard. That's all. I will follow my principles : Who fucks with me better be ready for a long **...Cos I wanna ** his brains out ^^ Lemme see if I get this right. You couldn't do five seconds of research on good olde mittens to see if he was trustworthy before handing over 20b... but you'll suddenly do research before handing over a merc. contract fee? Well, hopefully you learned your lesson the first time. Otherwise your next forum thread will be even more enjoyable. Exactly what portion of this weeping vagina's posts lead you to believe that he has any capacity for learning?
Eladaris Excessum Industries Excessum Gaming 111	Posted - 2011.11.10 17:55:00 - [264] - Quote Konno Yoshiho wrote: Exactly what portion of this weeping vagina's posts lead you to believe that he has any capacity for learning? None, I just wanted to point it out so I could say I told ya so when he hires some GSF alts as mercs, and they pod kill 'em.
Hans Jagerblitzen Autocannons Anonymous 470	Posted - 2011.11.10 17:58:00 - [265] - Quote Seriously everyone, isn't it like written on the box of the game "Come play EvE, you can grief, backstab, lie, steal, and cheat your way to the top - CCP approves." With all the Mittani / Goon misplaced lolhate going on right now, its just as likely this was a faked logs meant to detract from Mittani trying to make some cash. Or, he ripped em off and is lying to cover up. Either way, its totally working the way EvE is supposed to. Anyone surprised that a player, CSM or otherwise, would do this, deserves to lose their isk. There are plenty of reliable supercap escrow personnel, like Chribba, who have spotless records. Trading supers with the leader of Goonswarm is unbelievably naive. He may be legitimate, may not be, but thats the risk you take. EvE has consequences, this stuff is one of them. You may hate the Mittani and the goons all you want, but they are just playing a game, the way it is supposed to be played. Morality is outdated in the distant, sci-fi future - havent we all figured that out by now? Thats the fun of being immortal - you can do whatever you want to get ahead, even things that would be considered despicable by earthly human standards. If you want to be a space do-gooder, theres a place for that. Chribba makes bank because of his stellar reputation. Others make bank because they have a complete machiavellian drive for power and a lack of empathy for those who lose in the cuthroat capitalist utopia CCP has created. Either way, its a role playing game. Emphasis on game. Let the 20 bil be a lesson learned for all parties involved. And be glad you made a mistake in a game, and not with your real money.
Partsking Ardent Spirits BricK sQuAD. 11	Posted - 2011.11.10 17:58:00 - [266] - Quote Google is hard? Jesus Christ. I wouldn't trust a goon to 3rd party a noobship much less a scap. You got what you deserved, bro.
Jovan Geldon Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire 152	Posted - 2011.11.10 18:08:00 - [267] - Quote Hahahaha ur stoopid
Mortis vonShadow Balanaz Mining and Development Inc. 323	Posted - 2011.11.10 18:13:00 - [268] - Quote To the OP: Researching whom you're dealing with will save you next time. To The Mittani: +1 you never ever fail to entertain. This was almost as good as Peracleeve. (Sell someone a jumpbridge and I'm becoming a goon.) Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun.
Ladie Harlot GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 922	Posted - 2011.11.10 18:15:00 - [269] - Quote The good admiral hasn't posted for a while. Did he finally cry himself to sleep? The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
Krios Ahzek Juvenis Iratus 86	Posted - 2011.11.10 18:17:00 - [270] - Quote It just occurred to me that these people just completely ignore the definition of ''third party'' If your trusted third party is from the same alliance as the guy you're selling to... it's not a third party. There are only two parties involved and the ''third party'' has all the interest in the world to help his bud scam you. I have no tears to cry.

Zions Child Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance 46	Posted - 2011.11.10 18:25:00 - [271] - Quote Confirming that this is the best thread all week. C&P delivers once again.
Tallian Saotome Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension 258	Posted - 2011.11.10 18:41:00 - [272] - Quote I just realized we have absolute evidence that the logs are faked. If they were real, they would have been deleted the chat logs at the beginning of the thread, as posting real logs violates forum rules o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/`
Terrorina Paxton Industries Gentlemen's Agreement 2	Posted - 2011.11.10 18:58:00 - [273] - Quote Ladie Harlot wrote: The good admiral hasn't posted for a while. Did he finally cry himself to sleep? Sadly it appears that way. Oh Admiral our friend please come back and clear the noble Mittanis good name... how ever will those brave Goons survive with such damning accusations in the air?!
Tasko Pal Spallated Garniferous Schist 14	Posted - 2011.11.10 19:00:00 - [274] - Quote Quote: Is it normal to get scammed by The Mittani, Chairman of CSM ??? I take it that the Admiral has figured out by now that he was asking the wrong question. It's not normal to get scammed by a Goon because it's not normal to trust one that much.
Alina Wize Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 81	Posted - 2011.11.10 19:08:00 - [275] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: n++[ 2011.11.10 06:01:35 ] Acwron > If I get scammed by a CSM, will be a first wouldn't it? :) I like this part of the log, this is good.
atrum dux SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 19:09:00 - [276] - Quote My CEO.
Brock Nelson 48	Posted - 2011.11.10 19:18:00 - [277] - Quote This is unacceptable. The Mittani of Goonswarm Federation has his good name smeared by Admiral Crybaby all in the name of what? The Mittani merely offered a valuable service, a service of removing isk and dangerous weapons from a pubbie that could have been used to hurt himself and other innocent players of this fine game. Thank you Mittani, that's 1 less pubbie to worry about in this game.
Gumpin S0utherN Comfort Controlled Chaos 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 19:24:00 - [278] - Quote I wish I saw this sooner. I can only think of two ways this situation could of possibly happened. Either the grand admiral here does everything based on assumptions, and we all know what that means, or, and this is probably the main thing, he thinks eve is a single player game and we're all here to help him be the best at eve campaign: Incarna. We should ask what his high score on the Tyrannis campaign was. I think I should include this edit Quote: They allow and also control the chaos. For some reason, they think it must be good. Eve is a *SANDBOX*. That means Chaos.
proxwar Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2011.11.10 19:26:00 - [279] - Quote Alina Wize wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: n++[ 2011.11.10 06:01:35 ] Acwron > If I get scammed by a CSM, will be a first wouldn't it? :) I like this part of the log, this is good. Good, but ultimately wrong. He's just another fool in a long list of fools, and wont be the last.
Major Templar Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore 4	Posted - 2011.11.10 19:33:00 - [280] - Quote LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO!!!!!!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!! Oh God this is just too good. Love Mittins!!!!

Nephilius Pillage and Plunder Salvage Co. 19	Posted - 2011.11.10 19:36:00 - [281] - Quote The Mittani wrote: Such shameful lies, such obviously faked logs. Tsk, tsk. Pfft....snort...mmphurgle...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OMG! No way, no ******* way man! I love it when he says his trademark phrase! Better than Git-r-dun! Gahahahahahaha! Seriously...please stop...my bladder is convulsing with unrestrained glee and I think I pooped a little...can't breathe...guh...can't breathe...oh god...there's blood in my urine...A-HAHAHAHAHA! OMG... OMG... Ok...I think I'm ok...looks at screen again BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... falls off chair and passes out from lack of oxygen. The stench of poo and bloody pee fill the air Eve Online: The only kung-fu pandas here are the ones mission grinding for RMT.
Cerisia Caldari Provisions Caldari State 385	Posted - 2011.11.10 19:39:00 - [282] - Quote Nephilius wrote: The Mittani wrote: Such shameful lies, such obviously faked logs. Tsk, tsk. Pfft....snort...mmphurgle...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OMG! No way, no ******* way man! I love it when he says his trademark phrase! Better than Git-r-dun! Gahahahahahaha! Seriously...please stop...my bladder is convulsing with unrestrained glee and I think I pooped a little...can't breathe...guh...can't breathe...oh god...there's blood in my urine...A-HAHAHAHAHA! OMG... OMG... Ok...I think I'm ok...looks at screen again BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... falls off chair and passes out from lack of oxygen. The stench of poo and bloody pee fill the air It's quite possible that you've won the thread with that post +1 to you sir! This space for rent..
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 684	Posted - 2011.11.10 19:43:00 - [283] - Quote Thank you, capsuleer Admiral Thrawn, for donating your supercarrier to our cause! May it purge many foul Guristas pirates from the anomalies of Deklein.
Sverige Pahis Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation 280	Posted - 2011.11.10 19:49:00 - [284] - Quote hi andski can you believe this guy?
FalconX Blast Fly Drunk Fatal Ascension 2	Posted - 2011.11.10 19:51:00 - [285] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: ..... I bought ships from Morsus Mihi with 3rd party, found that guy I bought from quite a nice and fun guy...they are red to us but that didn't stop us have a fun chat and do business. ... Buying and selling supers between reds is dishonorable and why you would admit to this loss of your dignity in a public forum is beyond me. But at least we all know not to trust this Admiral Thrawn character. HE DEALS WITH REDS! Being red is an in-game mechanic designed by CCP that he is blatantly ignoring. Should we petition this guy for going against CCP's designed use of the game and its standings system?
Fuujin GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 37	Posted - 2011.11.10 19:52:00 - [286] - Quote Nephilius wrote: The Mittani wrote: Such shameful lies, such obviously faked logs. Tsk, tsk. Pfft....snort...mmphurgle...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OMG! No way, no ******* way man! I love it when he says his trademark phrase! Better than Git-r-dun! Gahahahahahaha! Seriously...please stop...my bladder is convulsing with unrestrained glee and I think I pooped a little...can't breathe...guh...can't breathe...oh god...there's blood in my urine...A-HAHAHAHAHA! OMG... OMG... Ok...I think I'm ok...looks at screen again BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... falls off chair and passes out from lack of oxygen. The stench of poo and bloody pee fill the air The Mittani is a killing word.
Singeabooty Raj Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet 66	Posted - 2011.11.10 19:56:00 - [287] - Quote Grand Admiral Thrawn Not much of an Admiral without a Super Capital Flag Ship Black Man with Goggles
Darmak X99 Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 20:06:00 - [288] - Quote This entire thread is
Travis Wells Amok. Goonswarm Federation 145	Posted - 2011.11.10 20:08:00 - [289] - Quote Wow, look at all these words. A nyx you say, i think i know someone who just got one, a fine vessel indeed.
Razzor Death Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 31	Posted - 2011.11.10 20:14:00 - [290] - Quote hazed got just You

The Mittani GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2183	Posted - 2011.11.10 20:21:00 - [291] - Quote Fuujin wrote: Nephilius wrote: The Mittani wrote: Such shameful lies, such obviously faked logs. Tsk, tsk. Pfft....snort...mmphurgle...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OMG! No way, no ******* way man! I love it when he says his trademark phrase! Better than Git-r-dun! Gahahahahahaha! Seriously...please stop...my bladder is convulsing with unrestrained glee and I think I pooped a little...can't breathe...guh...can't breathe...oh god...there's blood in my urine...A-HAHAHAHAHA! OMG... OMG... Ok...I think I'm ok...looks at screen again BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... falls off chair and passes out from lack of oxygen. The stench of poo and bloody pee fill the air The Mittani is a killing word. My regards are a killing word. My name is merely fuzzy and adorable. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues
Lykouleon Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation 308	Posted - 2011.11.10 20:22:00 - [292] - Quote I was also scammed by The Mittani. I once demanded that he hand over his most prized possession and all I got was a picture of his puppy. Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD WIdot Director of Quality Control and Ironically Signing My Title to Posts To Make People ~mad~
orphenshadow Easy Co. Fatal Ascension 4	Posted - 2011.11.10 20:23:00 - [293] - Quote This thread is full of lies and slander! The Mittani is an honorable internet space pilot and would never do such a thing. This is an obvious attack from the radical high-sec extremists who hate everything about those of us who live in the null-sec world. These terrorists must be hunted and punished for their actions.
Amara Jade Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2011.11.10 20:36:00 - [294] - Quote Travis Wells wrote: Wow, look at all these words. A nyx you say, i think i know someone who just got one, a fine vessel indeed. Pray good sir, do tell where such a fine vessel came from at so low a price? Robin Hood wasn't such a bad guy in the history books, if your vile slander were true, I did the equivalent of solo killing an enemy supercap, dealt a massive morale blow, and built a nyx for less than mineral cost enabling an aspiring nyx pilot to bolster the supercap ranks of the most powerful alliance in eve. All in 20 minutes This simply isn't realistic, I'm guessing you are just a disgruntled gallente ice miner flailing about helplessly and hurting honest players in the process. All you'll ever be is mean.
Travis Wells Amok. Goonswarm Federation 148	Posted - 2011.11.10 20:41:00 - [295] - Quote Amara Jade wrote: Travis Wells wrote: Wow, look at all these words. A nyx you say, i think i know someone who just got one, a fine vessel indeed. Pray good sir, do tell where such a fine vessel came from at so low a price? A fine gentle goon from my mighty alliance sent me a mail telling me of a nyx that he had come across for a REALLY GOOD deal that he would be so kind as to pass such a good deal unto the likes of myself and my associate who now entombed himself unto one fine greenish vessel. Hopefully he can now vanquish the guristas threat that has invaded my homeland after all.
Mortis vonShadow Balanaz Mining and Development Inc. 325	Posted - 2011.11.10 20:44:00 - [296] - Quote It warms my heart to no end that there is still good and decent people in New Eden protecting us little corporations from people like this so called *Admiral* Thrawn. Had The Mittani not stepped up when he did, that Nyx carrier would have been used as a terrorist weapon against people like me. The Mittani - Chairman of the CSM (for life) Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun.
CEO Rockhound The Treehugger Corp 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 20:46:00 - [297] - Quote KSUDruid wrote: words So, did you buy the account, or are you the original KSUDruid that stole the Xetic Minerals?
CEO Rockhound The Treehugger Corp 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 20:52:00 - [298] - Quote A small piece of information: The Mittani did not perform this scam. He just held the isk while another goon made the scam. Stop making it into 'Mittens Scams'. He did not scam the Erebus either, a 6 month old new player did that.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3120	Posted - 2011.11.10 20:59:00 - [299] - Quote Borlag Crendraven wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Otherwise, as I stated : there are always mercenaries to hire, there are always people who hate goons...Sooner or later you will go down. Not for 20 bil, it's not about isk, it's just because I hate scammers. So, not only do you lose 20B by falling for the scam, you'll now lose even more to try and get back. Should we expect another thead like this titled "mercenaries stole 5B from me and didn't kill Mittani or that other guy like I asked"? I honestly cannot imagine what possible effect one would hope to achieve by hiring mercenaries against a nullsec entity. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Lunas Whisper Chillwater Ltd Imperial Ascension 18	Posted - 2011.11.10 21:01:00 - [300] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Borlag Crendraven wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Otherwise, as I stated : there are always mercenaries to hire, there are always people who hate goons...Sooner or later you will go down. Not for 20 bil, it's not about isk, it's just because I hate scammers. So, not only do you lose 20B by falling for the scam, you'll now lose even more to try and get back. Should we expect another thead like this titled "mercenaries stole 5B from me and didn't kill Mittani or that other guy like I asked"? I honestly cannot imagine what possible effect one would hope to achieve by hiring mercenaries against a nullsec entity. Depending on the mercs, a fat load of nothing, to a large hernia in a nullsecs bum.

Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3120	Posted - 2011.11.10 21:02:00 - [301] - Quote Borlag Crendraven wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: I think the mercenaries will do what they're asked for, otherwise they wouldn't build the reputation as good mercenaries...I don't care about Mittani as a person...he proves that he is just a small crook...a goon leader to set such a scam is a tiny little sad fecktard. That's all. I will follow my principles : Who fucks with me better be ready for a long **...Cos I wanna ** his brains out ^^ Of course, but based on this thread and all your responses to it, it doesn't seem like you learnt your lesson which is never trust anyone blindly. If you'd handle hiring the mercenaries like you handled this trade, you could just as well hire Mittani himself to deliver a corpse for you. Then again that would just make this even more hilarious, you hiring some goons alt to handle the mercenary contract. I hope like hell this proceeds as far into obsession as the whole Prencleeve incident did. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3120	Posted - 2011.11.10 21:04:00 - [302] - Quote Lunas Whisper wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: Borlag Crendraven wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Otherwise, as I stated : there are always mercenaries to hire, there are always people who hate goons...Sooner or later you will go down. Not for 20 bil, it's not about isk, it's just because I hate scammers. So, not only do you lose 20B by falling for the scam, you'll now lose even more to try and get back. Should we expect another thead like this titled "mercenaries stole 5B from me and didn't kill Mittani or that other guy like I asked"? I honestly cannot imagine what possible effect one would hope to achieve by hiring mercenaries against a nullsec entity. Depending on the mercs, a fat load of nothing, to a large hernia in a nullsecs bum. The provably best capable mercenary alliance for the job, and an entire coalition of their friends, succeeded in accomplishing a fat load of nothing this past summer with the invasion of VFK-IV in an attempt to head shot the Clusterfuck Coalition. I hear that Billy Merc always gets his, but ... ? Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Travis Wells Amok. Goonswarm Federation 148	Posted - 2011.11.10 21:04:00 - [303] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Borlag Crendraven wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Otherwise, as I stated : there are always mercenaries to hire, there are always people who hate goons...Sooner or later you will go down. Not for 20 bil, it's not about isk, it's just because I hate scammers. So, not only do you lose 20B by falling for the scam, you'll now lose even more to try and get back. Should we expect another thead like this titled "mercenaries stole 5B from me and didn't kill Mittani or that other guy like I asked"? I honestly cannot imagine what possible effect one would hope to achieve by hiring mercenaries against a nullsec entity. They're going to elite pvp us all to death and camp us in the 1 station that the whole alliance operates out of....
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3121	Posted - 2011.11.10 21:07:00 - [304] - Quote Borlag Crendraven wrote: That's just it, he didn't lose anything. Everyone who follow what's going on around the game knows about him and his reputation both in game and in the CSM. If you'd look around this thread, you'd quickly see that you're the only one in the dark about that. Would you like a legitimate sponsorship into GoonWaffe? I like you, and it's the least I can do for an intelligent unista. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3121	Posted - 2011.11.10 21:08:00 - [305] - Quote Travis Wells wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: Borlag Crendraven wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Otherwise, as I stated : there are always mercenaries to hire, there are always people who hate goons...Sooner or later you will go down. Not for 20 bil, it's not about isk, it's just because I hate scammers. So, not only do you lose 20B by falling for the scam, you'll now lose even more to try and get back. Should we expect another thead like this titled "mercenaries stole 5B from me and didn't kill Mittani or that other guy like I asked"? I honestly cannot imagine what possible effect one would hope to achieve by hiring mercenaries against a nullsec entity. They're going to elite pvp us all to death and camp us in the 1 station that the whole alliance operates out of.... kick amokDOT Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Borlag Crendraven EVE University Ivy League 13	Posted - 2011.11.10 21:15:00 - [306] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Borlag Crendraven wrote: That's just it, he didn't lose anything. Everyone who follow what's going on around the game knows about him and his reputation both in game and in the CSM. If you'd look around this thread, you'd quickly see that you're the only one in the dark about that. Would you like a legitimate sponsorship into GoonWaffe? I like you, and it's the least I can do for an intelligent unista. Heh not really. While it might seem that I'm "on your side", I don't like scamming one bit. I appreciate it that the game makes it possible to do so and that there are no reprecussions by CCP in doing so, but that's about as far as I go. Have other plans once I leave the uni.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3121	Posted - 2011.11.10 21:16:00 - [307] - Quote Lunas Whisper wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Alara IonStorm wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Send the isk Since CCP is not gonna help you at all and in fact will be laughing at you come morning I just have to ask... Or what? Things are simple : If a CSM does this to a CCP customer, than I have several questions : What is CSM? What is CSM doing for me ? What is CCP doing to keep me paying for this game? Laugh at me? Is it true? So I pay CCP to laugh at me? I don't feel like laughing right now. But I can stop paying for my 8 accounts. That's all I can do. A CSM is a PLAYER voted in by other PLAYERS that jabber at CCP on YOUR BEHALF. Think of it this way. CCP is college bueracracy. A CSM is a student voted in by other drunk students to sit on a student council. Doesn't mean they still can't throw drunken frat parties. You wanna get back at him, get more billions of isk and hire NOIR. As much as I love Alekseyev Karde and especially love the anime upon which his corporation is themed, I do not believe that Noir. Mercenary Group is more capable than Pandemic Legion and the entirety of the New North to deal damage to Goonswarm Federation. They would definitely be very annoying to have harassing the clueless newbies, but so far as actually causing harm to strategic assets or threatening the livelihood of the coalition they simply lack the firepower to do it. Pandemic Legion and its coalition of the New North made a very respectable push into VFK-IV this past summer, but this merely demonstrated that when one disturbs the hive one summons literally thousands of angry little beesGÇöwhen news of the attempted head shot was transmitted to the Something Awful thread, hundreds of goons resubscribed their lapsed accounts for the sole purpose of reinforcing the defence of our sacred homeland. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3121	Posted - 2011.11.10 21:17:00 - [308] - Quote Borlag Crendraven wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: Borlag Crendraven wrote: That's just it, he didn't lose anything. Everyone who follow what's going on around the game knows about him and his reputation both in game and in the CSM. If you'd look around this thread, you'd quickly see that you're the only one in the dark about that. Would you like a legitimate sponsorship into GoonWaffe? I like you, and it's the least I can do for an intelligent unista. Heh not really. While it might seem that I'm "on your side", I don't like scamming one bit. I appreciate it that the game makes it possible to do so and that there are no reprecussions by CCP in doing so, but that's about as far as I go. Have other plans once I leave the uni. Well, just because you're in GoonWaffe doesn't mean you're somehow obligated by some sort of Code of Evil to scam. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Kilobar The Suicide Kings Test Alliance Please Ignore 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 21:22:00 - [309] - Quote My suggestion is to not trust anyone unless you can drive over to their house and punch them in the face and only then if you are physically capable of kicking the crap out of them
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3121	Posted - 2011.11.10 21:23:00 - [310] - Quote Lunas Whisper wrote: Nemesis Factor wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: The Mittani, I petitioned you, it should be there in game logs anyway so you better give the isk. If not, I hope CCP can investigate and see if Amara Jade was involved or not in the scam and reimburse me. I can't imagine how you feel, I have never even seen 3 billion isk, but I would get sick to my stomach if I even lost one. But I really don't see them fixing this. It's happened over and over, and is a legitimate part of the game. There is NO ONE you can trust implicitly in this game. If you understand that and believe it, you cannot honestly petition the scam. Next time wait for Chribba to log in. If you have the bil to buy the ship, you have the time in the game to know, do not trust goons. You have the time in the game to know, that Chribba is the 3rd party you trust. You also know darn well, that scams, theft, betrayal, griefing, are an integral part of the game. I am just going to remind the jury that the facts of this case have not been conclusively established. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad

Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 688	Posted - 2011.11.10 21:26:00 - [311] - Quote Borlag Crendraven wrote: Heh not really. While it might seem that I'm "on your side", I don't like scamming one bit. I appreciate it that the game makes it possible to do so and that there are no reprecussions by CCP in doing so, but that's about as far as I go. Have other plans once I leave the uni. The scammers in my alliance are actually a minority by far - most Goons make their ISK through other avenues. You just have to be fairly thick-skinned, that's all.
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 385	Posted - 2011.11.10 21:29:00 - [312] - Quote Kilobar wrote: My suggestion is to not trust anyone unless you can drive over to their house and punch them in the face and only then if you are physically capable of kicking the crap out of them Reading what Thrawn he has to say on the matter, I can safely come to the conclusion that he in-fact can not kick the crap out of The Mittani. But if a 8 year old ever steals from him and his mommy doesn't help him then he has a real fighting chance. Like 40%. I peg his age around 33 BTW.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3122	Posted - 2011.11.10 21:42:00 - [313] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: Kilobar wrote: My suggestion is to not trust anyone unless you can drive over to their house and punch them in the face and only then if you are physically capable of kicking the crap out of them Reading what he he has to say on the matter, I can safely come to the conclusion that he in-fact can not kick the crap out of The Mittani. But if a 8 year old ever steals from him and his mommy doesn't help him then he has a real fighting chance. Like 40%. I peg his age around 33 BTW. Lyris Nairn does not approve of ad hominem attacks via the Internet. This product is NOT Sky Captain Approved. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 385	Posted - 2011.11.10 21:44:00 - [314] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Lyris Nairn does not approve of ad hominem attacks via the Internet. This product is NOT Sky Captain Approved. Without your approval I now can show it in Theaters before 9pm.
Khanh'rhh Sudden Buggery 289	Posted - 2011.11.10 21:46:00 - [315] - Quote The tl;dr of this thread, and in direct answer to the OP: Yes. Also - lol Whenever someone petitions me, I feel like I have achieved something. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3133	Posted - 2011.11.10 21:49:00 - [316] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: Lyris Nairn does not approve of ad hominem attacks via the Internet. This product is NOT Sky Captain Approved. With your disapproval I now can show it in Theaters before 9pm. Yeah, to all the boring people. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Angry Onions Dark Pheonix Technologies 153	Posted - 2011.11.10 21:57:00 - [317] - Quote What happened to the old days when disagreements like this could of been solved by pistol duels? Those are far more entertaining than 99% of our "entertainment" we have today. Either way, I propose a cease to useless (although funny) forum ranting and settle this in game with a frigate duel to the death, like proper internet space ship pilots. E .-+ ` ' / -+. F Your Carebear tears fuel us
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 385	Posted - 2011.11.10 21:57:00 - [318] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Yeah, to all the boring people. There Money helps me fund my Charity. Depop World Aid. We pay Warlords to destroy Malaria vaccinations around the 3rd World to stem a more manageable population and weed out the weak. I am Ok with being boring if I can help people.
Venus Vermillion GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 231	Posted - 2011.11.10 21:58:00 - [319] - Quote GM Homonoia wrote: DISCLAIMER: I am not commenting, nor am I going to comment, on the particular case that is being discussed here. My comments here are simply to clarify our stance on the rights and duties of CSM members; they are in no way any indication of CCPs views on the morality of these things. Any CSM member, no matter who he or she ma be, is bound by the EULA and ToS (as any other player is) and by the NDA that they signed when they took office. Other then these rules, they are free to enjoy EVE Online in any way they see fit, no matter their chosen play style. In the end they are free to enjoy the game like any other player, as long as they do not abuse any NDA bound information to get ahead. Not emptyquoting a GM.
Lunas Whisper Chillwater Ltd Imperial Ascension 18	Posted - 2011.11.10 21:59:00 - [320] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Lunas Whisper wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Alara IonStorm wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Send the isk Since CCP is not gonna help you at all and in fact will be laughing at you come morning I just have to ask... Or what? Things are simple : If a CSM does this to a CCP customer, than I have several questions : What is CSM? What is CSM doing for me ? What is CCP doing to keep me paying for this game? Laugh at me? Is it true? So I pay CCP to laugh at me? I don't feel like laughing right now. But I can stop paying for my 8 accounts. That's all I can do. A CSM is a PLAYER voted in by other PLAYERS that jabber at CCP on YOUR BEHALF. Think of it this way. CCP is college bueracracy. A CSM is a student voted in by other drunk students to sit on a student council. Doesn't mean they still can't throw drunken frat parties. You wanna get back at him, get more billions of isk and hire NOIR. As much as I love Alekseyev Karde and especially love the anime upon which his corporation is themed, I do not believe that Noir. Mercenary Group is more capable than Pandemic Legion and the entirety of the New North to deal damage to Goonswarm Federation. They would definitely be very annoying to have harassing the clueless newbies, but so far as actually causing harm to strategic assets or threatening the livelihood of the coalition they simply lack the firepower to do it. Pandemic Legion and its coalition of the New North made a very respectable push into VFK-IV this past summer, but this merely demonstrated that when one disturbs the hive one summons literally thousands of angry little beesGÇöwhen news of the attempted head shot was transmitted to the Something Awful thread, hundreds of goons resubscribed their lapsed accounts for the sole purpose of reinforcing the defence of our sacred homeland. I've fought NOIR. Two weeks of twiddling thumbs in station, and trolling in local to see who hired them(already knew, just would have loved the confirmation), was a gigantic suck fest. The previous mercs, were fun to fight, and I have much respect for the DUTY players that have since moved on. I've fought with PL, when they were defending their system. I'm fairly confident, that given the choice of the two merc groups, THAT I KNOW, that go into nullsec, I'd choose NOIR. They may not take your system. They may not cause the alliance to fall, but I'm pretty sure, they would cause a fair amount of aggravation. If I had the isk to toss away, to get even with being stupid enough to be scammed and spend pages and pages demanding my isk back from a Goon, I'd spend it with NOIR. Just to get the satisfaction of knowing, the next couple weeks will be a pita. NOIR. is smart enough to figure out how. They do their research.

Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 692	Posted - 2011.11.10 21:59:00 - [321] - Quote only a fool would challenge the mittani to a rifter duel
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3133	Posted - 2011.11.10 21:59:00 - [322] - Quote I am an honourable space bushido warrior. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Sverige Pahis Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation 283	Posted - 2011.11.10 22:01:00 - [323] - Quote lol NOIR do they even still exist?
Sverige Pahis Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation 283	Posted - 2011.11.10 22:01:00 - [324] - Quote pew pew pew :snypa:
Sverige Pahis Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation 283	Posted - 2011.11.10 22:01:00 - [325] - Quote damn
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3133	Posted - 2011.11.10 22:02:00 - [326] - Quote Lunas Whisper wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: As much as I love Alekseyev Karde and especially love the anime upon which his corporation is themed, I do not believe that Noir. Mercenary Group is more capable than Pandemic Legion and the entirety of the New North to deal damage to Goonswarm Federation. They would definitely be very annoying to have harassing the clueless newbies, but so far as actually causing harm to strategic assets or threatening the livelihood of the coalition they simply lack the firepower to do it. Pandemic Legion and its coalition of the New North made a very respectable push into VFK-IV this past summer, but this merely demonstrated that when one disturbs the hive one summons literally thousands of angry little beesGÇöwhen news of the attempted head shot was transmitted to the Something Awful thread, hundreds of goons resubscribed their lapsed accounts for the sole purpose of reinforcing the defence of our sacred homeland. I've fought NOIR. Two weeks of twiddling thumbs in station, and trolling in local to see who hired them(already knew, just would have loved the confirmation), was a gigantic suck fest. The previous mercs, were fun to fight, and I have much respect for the DUTY players that have since moved on. I've fought with PL, when they were defending their system. I'm fairly confident, that given the choice of the two merc groups, THAT I KNOW, that go into nullsec, I'd choose NOIR. They may not take your system. They may not cause the alliance to fall, but I'm pretty sure, they would cause a fair amount of aggravation. If I had the isk to toss away, to get even with being stupid enough to be scammed and spend pages and pages demanding my isk back from a Goon, I'd spend it with NOIR. Just to get the satisfaction of knowing, the next couple weeks will be a pita. NOIR. is smart enough to figure out how. They do their research. I personally do not see why either one is a worthwhile use of money. Unless you can do enough damage to the entity as a whole as to generate widespread hardshipGÇöa goal that seems entirely out of the reach of present mercenaries with regards to a major nullsec entityGÇöthen what exactly is the point? You've generated fun for the mercenaries and for their targets, but you have not generated any content for yourself; instead, you have just thrown money away for no gain. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Neeb Neeb Nanu Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2011.11.10 22:23:00 - [327] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Lunas Whisper wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: As much as I love Alekseyev Karde and especially love the anime upon which his corporation is themed, I do not believe that Noir. Mercenary Group is more capable than Pandemic Legion and the entirety of the New North to deal damage to Goonswarm Federation. They would definitely be very annoying to have harassing the clueless newbies, but so far as actually causing harm to strategic assets or threatening the livelihood of the coalition they simply lack the firepower to do it. Pandemic Legion and its coalition of the New North made a very respectable push into VFK-IV this past summer, but this merely demonstrated that when one disturbs the hive one summons literally thousands of angry little beesGÇöwhen news of the attempted head shot was transmitted to the Something Awful thread, hundreds of goons resubscribed their lapsed accounts for the sole purpose of reinforcing the defence of our sacred homeland. I've fought NOIR. Two weeks of twiddling thumbs in station, and trolling in local to see who hired them(already knew, just would have loved the confirmation), was a gigantic suck fest. The previous mercs, were fun to fight, and I have much respect for the DUTY players that have since moved on. I've fought with PL, when they were defending their system. I'm fairly confident, that given the choice of the two merc groups, THAT I KNOW, that go into nullsec, I'd choose NOIR. They may not take your system. They may not cause the alliance to fall, but I'm pretty sure, they would cause a fair amount of aggravation. If I had the isk to toss away, to get even with being stupid enough to be scammed and spend pages and pages demanding my isk back from a Goon, I'd spend it with NOIR. Just to get the satisfaction of knowing, the next couple weeks will be a pita. NOIR. is smart enough to figure out how. They do their research. I personally do not see why either one is a worthwhile use of money. Unless you can do enough damage to the entity as a whole as to generate widespread hardshipGÇöa goal that seems entirely out of the reach of present mercenaries with regards to a major nullsec entityGÇöthen what exactly is the point? You've generated fun for the mercenaries and for their targets, but you have not generated any content for yourself; instead, you have just thrown money away for no gain. I concur to these walls of text
Tjo Sephagen The Roaches UNI0N. 3	Posted - 2011.11.10 22:35:00 - [328] - Quote Wait. You can get paid for shooting Goons? Aw, and here I've been killing them for free.
Gumpin S0utherN Comfort Controlled Chaos 0	Posted - 2011.11.10 22:37:00 - [329] - Quote Andski wrote: only a fool would challenge the mittani to a rifter duel Done, I'll even fly up there. :D
Sverige Pahis Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation 283	Posted - 2011.11.10 22:37:00 - [330] - Quote Tjo Sephagen wrote: Wait. You can get paid for shooting Goons? Aw, and here I've been killing them for free. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Tjo+Sephagen#kills Get a load of this guy he KM whored on a single GCC thorax with a t1 meta 1 fit nemesis with t1 non faction explosive torps heh

Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3150	Posted - 2011.11.10 22:42:00 - [331] - Quote Tjo Sephagen wrote: Wait. You can get paid for shooting Goons? Aw, and here I've been killing them for free. Your avatar reminds me of Venus Vermillion. Alt spotted. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Xenuria Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet 20	Posted - 2011.11.10 22:50:00 - [332] - Quote The Mittani wrote: ACE McFACE wrote: Clearly fake, The Mittani doesnt say Pubbie once Also: Theres been an influx of chat logs in GD recently It's obviously fake because I would never say o7 without o7o7o7o7o77m8m8m8 for extra irony. I do not scam. Silence you Pseudo-Intellectual Sub-Human Hipster Scum!
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3153	Posted - 2011.11.10 22:51:00 - [333] - Quote Hey now that's MY CEO Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Xenuria Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet 20	Posted - 2011.11.10 23:02:00 - [334] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Hey now that's MY CEO I don't care. You think you're a goon? You think He is a goon? Then you are a ignorant child trapped in a psychological prison of you're own confabulatory creation. 90% of the Goons you see in eve today are just people who have SA accounts and posted on the forums. They are not real goons. They are part of the wave of hipsters and furrs that invaded SA before all the decent people left for better things. CCP pays the mitt under the table just so he will shower off the smell of PBR and shave his gross neck beard. THIS IS YOU'RE LEADER! A pseudo-intellectual, hollow reflection of what was once a proud and truly great community.
Tyrone Cashmoney GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 12	Posted - 2011.11.10 23:03:00 - [335] - Quote Xenuria wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: Hey now that's MY CEO 90% of the Goons you see in eve today are just people who have SA accounts and posted on the forums. They are not real goons. The secret is out!
Xenuria Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet 20	Posted - 2011.11.10 23:06:00 - [336] - Quote Tyrone Cashmoney wrote: Xenuria wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: Hey now that's MY CEO 90% of the Goons you see in eve today are just people who have SA accounts and posted on the forums. They are not real goons. The secret is out! That is not a secret... Who is really running goonswarm, now that is a secret.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3156	Posted - 2011.11.10 23:09:00 - [337] - Quote Xenuria wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: Hey now that's MY CEO A pseudo-intellectual, hollow reflection of what was once a proud and truly great community. Can you please point me at some threads from the Good Old Days that illustrate at exactly what point in Something Awful's community it was defined by being so pretentious and self-aggrandizing as to unironically refer to itself as a "proud and truly great community"? Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3156	Posted - 2011.11.10 23:10:00 - [338] - Quote Xenuria wrote: Tyrone Cashmoney wrote: Xenuria wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: Hey now that's MY CEO 90% of the Goons you see in eve today are just people who have SA accounts and posted on the forums. They are not real goons. The secret is out! That is not a secret... Who is really running goonswarm, now that is a secret. It's me, I am the pubbie whisperer Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Tyrone Cashmoney GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 15	Posted - 2011.11.10 23:10:00 - [339] - Quote Confirming that I am part of a proud and truly great community.
Tyrone Cashmoney GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 15	Posted - 2011.11.10 23:11:00 - [340] - Quote By "confirming" I mean that I'm a totally lying about it.

Sverige Pahis Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation 285	Posted - 2011.11.10 23:18:00 - [341] - Quote Xenuria you're a silly sausage
Tjo Sephagen The Roaches UNI0N. 4	Posted - 2011.11.10 23:20:00 - [342] - Quote Sverige Pahis wrote: Tjo Sephagen wrote: Wait. You can get paid for shooting Goons? Aw, and here I've been killing them for free. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Tjo+Sephagen#kills Get a load of this guy he KM whored on a single GCC thorax with a t1 meta 1 fit nemesis with t1 non faction explosive torps heh You troll your way and I'll troll mine. You're just mad because I haven't third-partied you in a cheap frig yet.
Tjo Sephagen The Roaches UNI0N. 4	Posted - 2011.11.10 23:26:00 - [343] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Your avatar reminds me of Venus Vermillion. Alt spotted. Venus and I had a long, albeit schizophrenic, chat the other day on the nature of Goons, the interdiction, and the appropriate LOE for avatars. We see eye to eye.
Xenuria Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet 20	Posted - 2011.11.10 23:32:00 - [344] - Quote Sverige Pahis wrote: Xenuria you're a silly sausage Say what you want about my personality and my mannerisms but the fact remains unchallenged that I am one of the single greatest leaders in EvE Online.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3165	Posted - 2011.11.11 00:05:00 - [345] - Quote Tjo Sephagen wrote: Sverige Pahis wrote: Tjo Sephagen wrote: Wait. You can get paid for shooting Goons? Aw, and here I've been killing them for free. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Tjo+Sephagen#kills Get a load of this guy he KM whored on a single GCC thorax with a t1 meta 1 fit nemesis with t1 non faction explosive torps heh You troll your way and I'll troll mine. You're just mad because I haven't third-partied you in a cheap frig yet. Trolling is against forum policy. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Tjo Sephagen The Roaches UNI0N. 6	Posted - 2011.11.11 00:15:00 - [346] - Quote Oh, I would never troll on the forums. It's against forum policy! I'm more of an under-the-bridge shoot-a-criminal-when-he's-got-GCC kind of troll.
xp3ll3d ANZAC ACADEMY 9	Posted - 2011.11.11 00:27:00 - [347] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: GM Homonoia wrote: DISCLAIMER: I am not commenting, nor am I going to comment, on the particular case that is being discussed here. My comments here are simply to clarify our stance on the rights and duties of CSM members; they are in no way any indication of CCPs views on the morality of these things. Any CSM member, no matter who he or she ma be, is bound by the EULA and ToS (as any other player is) and by the NDA that they signed when they took office. Other then these rules, they are free to enjoy EVE Online in any way they see fit, no matter their chosen play style. In the end they are free to enjoy the game like any other player, as long as they do not abuse any NDA bound information to get ahead. CCP, this guy made an abuse using his CSM Chairman position to scam me. I dunno if it breaks EULA or so. But that's what he did. How did he abuse his position? According to the chat log you didn't even know he was CSM. So it had absoutely no bearing on you trusting him or not. You just got scammed, you're crying like a baby, and trying to find any way to justify why it is everyone else's fault, except your own.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3171	Posted - 2011.11.11 00:44:00 - [348] - Quote Tjo Sephagen wrote: Oh, I would never troll on the forums. It's against forum policy! I'm more of an under-the-bridge shoot-a-criminal-when-he's-got-GCC kind of troll. I'm the kind of troll that has brightly colored Albert Einstein hair, and you can rub my belly to make a wish. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3171	Posted - 2011.11.11 00:46:00 - [349] - Quote xp3ll3d wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: GM Homonoia wrote: DISCLAIMER: I am not commenting, nor am I going to comment, on the particular case that is being discussed here. My comments here are simply to clarify our stance on the rights and duties of CSM members; they are in no way any indication of CCPs views on the morality of these things. Any CSM member, no matter who he or she ma be, is bound by the EULA and ToS (as any other player is) and by the NDA that they signed when they took office. Other then these rules, they are free to enjoy EVE Online in any way they see fit, no matter their chosen play style. In the end they are free to enjoy the game like any other player, as long as they do not abuse any NDA bound information to get ahead. CCP, this guy made an abuse using his CSM Chairman position to scam me. I dunno if it breaks EULA or so. But that's what he did. How did he abuse his position? According to the chat log you didn't even know he was CSM. So it had absoutely no bearing on you trusting him or not. You just got scammed, you're crying like a baby, and trying to find any way to justify why it is everyone else's fault, except your own. I don't always like posts, but when I do I post about it. This pretty much sums up this entire episode, if we are to assume that the alleged form of events are accurate. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Lunas Whisper Chillwater Ltd Imperial Ascension 19	Posted - 2011.11.11 01:19:00 - [350] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Lunas Whisper wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: As much as I love Alekseyev Karde and especially love the anime upon which his corporation is themed, I do not believe that Noir. Mercenary Group is more capable than Pandemic Legion and the entirety of the New North to deal damage to Goonswarm Federation. They would definitely be very annoying to have harassing the clueless newbies, but so far as actually causing harm to strategic assets or threatening the livelihood of the coalition they simply lack the firepower to do it. Pandemic Legion and its coalition of the New North made a very respectable push into VFK-IV this past summer, but this merely demonstrated that when one disturbs the hive one summons literally thousands of angry little beesGÇöwhen news of the attempted head shot was transmitted to the Something Awful thread, hundreds of goons resubscribed their lapsed accounts for the sole purpose of reinforcing the defence of our sacred homeland. I've fought NOIR. Two weeks of twiddling thumbs in station, and trolling in local to see who hired them(already knew, just would have loved the confirmation), was a gigantic suck fest. The previous mercs, were fun to fight, and I have much respect for the DUTY players that have since moved on. I've fought with PL, when they were defending their system. I'm fairly confident, that given the choice of the two merc groups, THAT I KNOW, that go into nullsec, I'd choose NOIR. They may not take your system. They may not cause the alliance to fall, but I'm pretty sure, they would cause a fair amount of aggravation. If I had the isk to toss away, to get even with being stupid enough to be scammed and spend pages and pages demanding my isk back from a Goon, I'd spend it with NOIR. Just to get the satisfaction of knowing, the next couple weeks will be a pita. NOIR. is smart enough to figure out how. They do their research. I personally do not see why either one is a worthwhile use of money. Unless you can do enough damage to the entity as a whole as to generate widespread hardshipGÇöa goal that seems entirely out of the reach of present mercenaries with regards to a major nullsec entityGÇöthen what exactly is the point? You've generated fun for the mercenaries and for their targets, but you have not generated any content for yourself; instead, you have just thrown money away for no gain. Your also not the one, that was so ticked off at loosing isk, to post TWO threads in the forums about it. I figure if your gonna obsess about it, and you have the isk, might as well hire someone who can really tick em off.

Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3193	Posted - 2011.11.11 01:20:00 - [351] - Quote Fair enough point I suppose. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Lunas Whisper Chillwater Ltd Imperial Ascension 19	Posted - 2011.11.11 01:22:00 - [352] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Fair enough point I suppose. Grins and rubs your belly in victory lol(you gave me the opening)
Aggressive Nutmeg 31	Posted - 2011.11.11 01:34:00 - [353] - Quote Dear OP, A player in the game long enough to legitimately amass 20B would not conduct a transaction as cluelessly as you did. So I suspect you didn't blow 20B internet space money. I suspect you blew $800 real dollars on mummy's credit card. You need to get past the denial and realise it was your fault and your fault alone. Next time, don't 'pay to win'. Or in this case, 'pay to lose'.
Dyner Midgard Protectorate 30	Posted - 2011.11.11 01:34:00 - [354] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Borlag Crendraven wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Otherwise, as I stated : there are always mercenaries to hire, there are always people who hate goons...Sooner or later you will go down. Not for 20 bil, it's not about isk, it's just because I hate scammers. So, not only do you lose 20B by falling for the scam, you'll now lose even more to try and get back. Should we expect another thead like this titled "mercenaries stole 5B from me and didn't kill Mittani or that other guy like I asked"? I think the mercenaries will do what they're asked for, otherwise they wouldn't build the reputation as good mercenaries...I don't care about Mittani as a person...he proves that he is just a small crook...a goon leader to set such a scam is a tiny little sad fecktard. That's all. I will follow my principles : Who fucks with me better be ready for a long **...Cos I wanna ** his brains out ^^ Real-life threat detected. Please remove this presence, CCP.
Zions Child Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance 61	Posted - 2011.11.11 02:34:00 - [355] - Quote I think my favorite part, is how completely alone the OP is on this. Absolutely everyone in EVE agrees he's an idiot for not doing a few seconds of research, on the very least on faking chat logs if indeed these allegations are fake. And why is it that everyone else thinks this idiot deserved to lose his isk? Because that's what this damn community is about, taking responsibility for your own damn mistakes. You lost 20B isk. Oh well, bad day for you, now **** off.
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 392	Posted - 2011.11.11 02:55:00 - [356] - Quote Hello people of the Thread. We are on page 18 now and things are winding down. It is probably longer then most novels by now. It would be nice if anyone who enjoyed this entertaining thread and got some chuckles from it to take a moment of there time and thank the OP for the fun. You too lurkers get out here and show your appreciation. Admiral Thrawn, Thank You. Sincerely.
KrakizBad Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension 56	Posted - 2011.11.11 03:23:00 - [357] - Quote I am having chicken for dinner. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39006524/DumbHiseccers.jpg
Dirk Action Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild 8	Posted - 2011.11.11 04:50:00 - [358] - Quote this thread oh dear
Dirk Action Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild 8	Posted - 2011.11.11 04:51:00 - [359] - Quote it's like watching a trainwreck
Dirk Action Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild 8	Posted - 2011.11.11 04:51:00 - [360] - Quote made entirely of crying children

Tokclik GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1	Posted - 2011.11.11 05:01:00 - [361] - Quote This is a good thread
Pudgy McFudge GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2	Posted - 2011.11.11 05:12:00 - [362] - Quote im gay
Hero Tackler Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2011.11.11 05:33:00 - [363] - Quote I'm eating egg rolls right now. Waiting for TEST to invade Chribba's Cottage whats up.
Zions Child Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance 62	Posted - 2011.11.11 05:45:00 - [364] - Quote Ohai der. I do believe you have posted the first reply on the nineteenth page of this here whine thread. I hope you have read through the whole thing, as it is fabulous.
Nathan Jameson Talocan Dominion Talocan United 71	Posted - 2011.11.11 05:57:00 - [365] - Quote Dirk Action wrote: made entirely of crying children That, good sir, is an awesome mental image.
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 4	Posted - 2011.11.11 06:15:00 - [366] - Quote Zions Child wrote: Ohai der. I do believe you have posted the first reply on the nineteenth page of this here whine thread. I hope you have read through the whole thing, as it is fabulous. It is fabulous but in a very sad way. I still got no answer for this : Why do the CSM guys have CSM on their avatar ? I do understand why GM's have GM written on their avatar, so you know he/she is a GAME MASTER ! So when a GM says anything, you listen cos he may have something important/interesting to say. Why do I see CSM on a guy if he's got nothing to say ? On the contrary, he's a scammer, liar and proud of it ? Why does he get to go to Iceland, to set a camp fire and tell CCP who and how he scammed people in game using his CSM text on his avatar ??? CCP and GM's : I do know it's a game where scams are allowed but this kind of scam is not acceptable. What if tomorrow a GM scams you? Why not, they do play the game sometimes, they can enjoy it as everyone else, right ? Then what next ? Think of some kind of contracts that can be made for ships that cannot dock. What if Chribba, Darknesss and Wirox die tomorrow? We will never trade big ships cos we can't trust anyone else ! Remove the mittani scumbag from CSM, gives a bad name to whatever Council that is.
Hero Tackler Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2011.11.11 06:18:00 - [367] - Quote Zions Child wrote: Ohai der. I do believe you have posted the first reply on the nineteenth page of this here whine thread. I hope you have read through the whole thing, as it is fabulous. I read the first couple posts then lost interest, gonna go play some Skyrim now.
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 396	Posted - 2011.11.11 06:20:00 - [368] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: I still got no answer for this : Why do the CSM guys have CSM on their avatar ? I do understand why GM's have GM written on their avatar, so you know he/she is a GAME MASTER ! So when a GM says anything, you listen cos he may have something important/interesting to say. They have them there so you can bring opinions to them if you so choose too. They can if they so choose relay the feed back to CCP if it falls within there platform. As for altering the way they play the game every competent player knows that those Characters still live by the same rules as everyone else and the rest loose 20bil because they did not take the 5 min to find out what that tag means. Basically it is your fault you did not do the research and no one else.
Dyner Midgard Protectorate 31	Posted - 2011.11.11 06:24:00 - [369] - Quote GöîGöÇGöÉ Gö¦GöÇGö¦ a¦á_a¦¦a¦âhuff huff Hmmm, Quite huff huff
Crefakis The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre 0	Posted - 2011.11.11 07:06:00 - [370] - Quote How did this guy get to the rank of Admiral?

Dirk Action Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild 8	Posted - 2011.11.11 07:06:00 - [371] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: mad pubbie things i told you bro i told you about the goons it keps happening
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 701	Posted - 2011.11.11 07:12:00 - [372] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Zions Child wrote: Ohai der. I do believe you have posted the first reply on the nineteenth page of this here whine thread. I hope you have read through the whole thing, as it is fabulous. It is fabulous but in a very sad way. I still got no answer for this : Why do the CSM guys have CSM on their avatar ? I do understand why GM's have GM written on their avatar, so you know he/she is a GAME MASTER ! So when a GM says anything, you listen cos he may have something important/interesting to say. Why do I see CSM on a guy if he's got nothing to say ? On the contrary, he's a scammer, liar and proud of it ? Why does he get to go to Iceland, to set a camp fire and tell CCP who and how he scammed people in game using his CSM text on his avatar ??? CCP and GM's : I do know it's a game where scams are allowed but this kind of scam is not acceptable. What if tomorrow a GM scams you? Why not, they do play the game sometimes, they can enjoy it as everyone else, right ? Then what next ? Think of some kind of contracts that can be made for ships that cannot dock. What if Chribba, Darknesss and Wirox die tomorrow? We will never trade big ships cos we can't trust anyone else ! Remove the mittani scumbag from CSM, gives a bad name to whatever Council that is. lol
Bayushi Tamago Zurillian Research and Development Corp Enlightened Violence 0	Posted - 2011.11.11 07:14:00 - [373] - Quote Tallian Saotome wrote: The Mittani wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: So, what's next ? CCP scamming ? I paid for the plex and time has not been added to my pilot license. CCP: No you didn't. I am but a humble elected representative of the people. It just so happens that the people love war, murder, scamming and sadism. vOv This needs to be your motto for the next election. Its already your platform 1) ^ That does need to be part of the re-election campaign 2) No one made an Admiral Ackbarre joke? 3) How can people not internalize the difference between Mittens, CEO of GSF and Alexander, CSM Chair. Eve is not real life
Ispia Jaydrath Reib Autonomous Industries 6	Posted - 2011.11.11 07:30:00 - [374] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Zions Child wrote: Ohai der. I do believe you have posted the first reply on the nineteenth page of this here whine thread. I hope you have read through the whole thing, as it is fabulous. It is fabulous but in a very sad way. I still got no answer for this : Why do the CSM guys have CSM on their avatar ? I do understand why GM's have GM written on their avatar, so you know he/she is a GAME MASTER ! So when a GM says anything, you listen cos he may have something important/interesting to say. Why do I see CSM on a guy if he's got nothing to say ? On the contrary, he's a scammer, liar and proud of it ? Why does he get to go to Iceland, to set a camp fire and tell CCP who and how he scammed people in game using his CSM text on his avatar ??? CCP and GM's : I do know it's a game where scams are allowed but this kind of scam is not acceptable. What if tomorrow a GM scams you? Why not, they do play the game sometimes, they can enjoy it as everyone else, right ? Then what next ? Think of some kind of contracts that can be made for ships that cannot dock. What if Chribba, Darknesss and Wirox die tomorrow? We will never trade big ships cos we can't trust anyone else ! Remove the mittani scumbag from CSM, gives a bad name to whatever Council that is. Hee hee! The best part of this whole thing is that the more mittens makes worthless scrubs like you cry, the more everybody loves and respects him. You are literally earning him votes in the next election right now.
Dyner Midgard Protectorate 33	Posted - 2011.11.11 07:38:00 - [375] - Quote Bayushi Tamago wrote: 3) How can people not internalize the difference between Mittens, CEO of GSF and Alexander, CSM Chair. Eve is not real life DUDE! EVE IS REAL. Hellooooo, http://www.eveisreal.net I was there.
Borlag Crendraven EVE University Ivy League 13	Posted - 2011.11.11 07:41:00 - [376] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Zions Child wrote: Ohai der. I do believe you have posted the first reply on the nineteenth page of this here whine thread. I hope you have read through the whole thing, as it is fabulous. It is fabulous but in a very sad way. I still got no answer for this : Why do the CSM guys have CSM on their avatar ? I do understand why GM's have GM written on their avatar, so you know he/she is a GAME MASTER ! So when a GM says anything, you listen cos he may have something important/interesting to say. Why do I see CSM on a guy if he's got nothing to say ? On the contrary, he's a scammer, liar and proud of it ? Why wont you simply stop and think for a second. It is completely possible to play one style of game and still be knowledgeable of the other sides of the game. Mittani runs a very large null sec alliance, do you think he got to that position without knowing a single thing? Do you think people would elect him there if all he ever did was scam? The game itself allows and even encourages scamming as a perfectly valid play style. You may not like it, heck, even I don't like it, but that still doesn't make it any less valid. Basically if you allow yourself to get scammed, nobody else is at fault but yourself. AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: [Why does he get to go to Iceland, to set a camp fire and tell CCP who and how he scammed people in game using his CSM text on his avatar ??? Because people who pay attention to what's going on in the game vote him there, people who understand that something as petty as gamestyle doesn't make a person any less knowledgeable about the issues in the game. In fact, if the CSM didn't have anyone who operates on the "shady side" of the game, that would create a huge hole and make the game less entertaining for everyone, including the people who hate things like scamming, piracy and whatever else you could think of. Simply put, EVE online is the type of game where you have to be on your toes at all times, take that away and it'd be just another run of the mill game that people would ignore.
Zions Child Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance 62	Posted - 2011.11.11 07:45:00 - [377] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Zions Child wrote: Ohai der. I do believe you have posted the first reply on the nineteenth page of this here whine thread. I hope you have read through the whole thing, as it is fabulous. It is fabulous but in a very sad way. I still got no answer for this : Why do the CSM guys have CSM on their avatar ? I do understand why GM's have GM written on their avatar, so you know he/she is a GAME MASTER ! So when a GM says anything, you listen cos he may have something important/interesting to say. Why do I see CSM on a guy if he's got nothing to say ? On the contrary, he's a scammer, liar and proud of it ? Why does he get to go to Iceland, to set a camp fire and tell CCP who and how he scammed people in game using his CSM text on his avatar ??? CCP and GM's : I do know it's a game where scams are allowed but this kind of scam is not acceptable. What if tomorrow a GM scams you? Why not, they do play the game sometimes, they can enjoy it as everyone else, right ? Then what next ? Think of some kind of contracts that can be made for ships that cannot dock. What if Chribba, Darknesss and Wirox die tomorrow? We will never trade big ships cos we can't trust anyone else ! Remove the mittani scumbag from CSM, gives a bad name to whatever Council that is. Is this real life? Are there people that are truly this dense? Are there? I mean, I have heard of things like this before... but to see it up close, personal. My god. The human race is doomed. DOOMED I SAY! P.S. We've told you why he is a CSM member, why he has the tag, and what that means. You'll just have to live with your ignorance if you are to afraid to let it go.
Tallian Saotome Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension 260	Posted - 2011.11.11 09:11:00 - [378] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: xp3ll3d wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: GM Homonoia wrote: DISCLAIMER: I am not commenting, nor am I going to comment, on the particular case that is being discussed here. My comments here are simply to clarify our stance on the rights and duties of CSM members; they are in no way any indication of CCPs views on the morality of these things. Any CSM member, no matter who he or she ma be, is bound by the EULA and ToS (as any other player is) and by the NDA that they signed when they took office. Other then these rules, they are free to enjoy EVE Online in any way they see fit, no matter their chosen play style. In the end they are free to enjoy the game like any other player, as long as they do not abuse any NDA bound information to get ahead. CCP, this guy made an abuse using his CSM Chairman position to scam me. I dunno if it breaks EULA or so. But that's what he did. How did he abuse his position? According to the chat log you didn't even know he was CSM. So it had absoutely no bearing on you trusting him or not. You just got scammed, you're crying like a baby, and trying to find any way to justify why it is everyone else's fault, except your own. I don't always like posts, but when I do I post about it. This pretty much sums up this entire episode, if we are to assume that the alleged form of events are accurate. When I like posts... o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/`
Daemon Ceed Brotherhood Of Treachery 2	Posted - 2011.11.11 09:22:00 - [379] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Daemon Ceed wrote: Lulz. I'm not even a supercap pilot nor do I live in null, and even I know never to use anyone other than Chribba, regardless of their position anywhere in CCP or it's player elected representative roles. Thrawn, you did something incredibly stupid and instead of sucking it up like a man you whined about a game that is "working as intended". CCP isn't there to insure that you make smart, wise choices. They provide the sandbox and we are allowed to play in it any way we choose with a small set of rules. CCP didn't elect Mittens into office, the players did. His job is to address technical game related issues that are raised by his constituents that voted for him and present them to CCP for consideration. His duties end there. Period. You were socially engineered. Unfortunately your idiocy isn't something that the Dev's can fix. To demand that CSM members (whom's duties consist of things done outside of game, such as technical advisement) act by your criterion of moral standards while they are in-game and in-character is laughable and severely naive. Your tears, however, are delicious. BTW - If you get another Nyx, I'll buy it from you for 40bil. I happen to know a very good broker service we can use. You still don't get it. he abused me using his position. I do not whine or cry about the isk. isk is not a problem. I fell for it cos I tohught CSM actually means something. My bad. He didn't abuse his position (if he even really scammed you at all, which I doubt. He's very honorable). You 'assumed' that because he was a CSM out of game that he had to act by a particular code of conduct, which is false.
Tallian Saotome Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension 260	Posted - 2011.11.11 09:22:00 - [380] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: CCP and GM's : I do know it's a game where scams are allowed but this kind of scam is not acceptable. What if tomorrow a GM scams you? Why not, they do play the game sometimes, they can enjoy it as everyone else, right ? Then what next ? I've read a few GMs and devs admit to the joy of a good scam over the years, so yes this is right. They aren't allowed to scam while on the clock(and hence on their CCP rep characters) but when they clock out at the end of the day, they go home, log into a normal character account, and scam, grief, and gank their way through plays. I used to be a GM for a game that shall not be named, and I started playing eve because that game didn't allow me to take out my dislike for whiny, self-entitled players because it was against community rules(no griefing game), so I can assure you, you probably already have been scammed by at least one GM/dev if you have played long. Oh, and CSM are NOT CCP reps, that are player reps who speak to CCP on our behalf, and therefor they don't have a duty to make the company look good like an actual CCP employee does. o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/`

Foxfrost SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2011.11.11 09:30:00 - [381] - Quote Dear Admiral, We from the friendly Goonswarm Federation regret the recent loss of your spacecraft. According to the agreement between GSF and yourself, we hereby grant you nothing, fully fitted. Also included is a gratuity gift of a lesson learned.
Darc Kaahar Valkyr Industries 0	Posted - 2011.11.11 10:10:00 - [382] - Quote I had a jolly old time reading this thread.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3302	Posted - 2011.11.11 10:43:00 - [383] - Quote Foxfrost wrote: Dear Admiral, We from the friendly Goonswarm Federation regret the recent loss of your spacecraft. According to the agreement between GSF and yourself, we hereby grant you nothing, fully fitted. Also included is a gratuity gift of a lesson learned. What are you talking about? He didn't learn his lesson. Look at him still going. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3302	Posted - 2011.11.11 10:45:00 - [384] - Quote Tallian Saotome wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: xp3ll3d wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: GM Homonoia wrote: DISCLAIMER: I am not commenting, nor am I going to comment, on the particular case that is being discussed here. My comments here are simply to clarify our stance on the rights and duties of CSM members; they are in no way any indication of CCPs views on the morality of these things. Any CSM member, no matter who he or she ma be, is bound by the EULA and ToS (as any other player is) and by the NDA that they signed when they took office. Other then these rules, they are free to enjoy EVE Online in any way they see fit, no matter their chosen play style. In the end they are free to enjoy the game like any other player, as long as they do not abuse any NDA bound information to get ahead. CCP, this guy made an abuse using his CSM Chairman position to scam me. I dunno if it breaks EULA or so. But that's what he did. How did he abuse his position? According to the chat log you didn't even know he was CSM. So it had absoutely no bearing on you trusting him or not. You just got scammed, you're crying like a baby, and trying to find any way to justify why it is everyone else's fault, except your own. I don't always like posts, but when I do I post about it. This pretty much sums up this entire episode, if we are to assume that the alleged form of events are accurate. When I like posts... I don't need a bot army. I am the pubbie whisperer. My cult of personality just waits for me to beckon. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Shamefuldirty Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 4	Posted - 2011.11.11 11:06:00 - [385] - Quote Just looking at all of that. Why the heck you did not just contract it out I do not know. Everyone knows Mittani scams his ass off. Bad luck. Gutted for you. Sausages anyone??
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3316	Posted - 2011.11.11 11:08:00 - [386] - Quote I hear that super-capitals have a minor problem with docking sometimes. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 5	Posted - 2011.11.11 11:08:00 - [387] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Foxfrost wrote: Dear Admiral, We from the friendly Goonswarm Federation regret the recent loss of your spacecraft. According to the agreement between GSF and yourself, we hereby grant you nothing, fully fitted. Also included is a gratuity gift of a lesson learned. What are you talking about? He didn't learn his lesson. Look at him still going. If Eve have as CSM chairman a lousy scammer, I do understand what community this game has. Well, most of it's members. Exactly as in real life. Lots of shitheads. Too many, can't fight them all.
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3323	Posted - 2011.11.11 11:19:00 - [388] - Quote Why would you even want to fight everyone? It's so much more efficient to adapt yourself than it is to throw a fit when the rest of the world does not conform to how you'd like it to be. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Tora Oni Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 38	Posted - 2011.11.11 11:30:00 - [389] - Quote Scamming, yeh it sucks if you are on the bad end of it (fun if you are the scammer ). Someone who has so many isks to spend should have enough experience to avoid these kind of scams. It would have been different in my opinion if a newbie was scammed of 20B isks. But then .... he shouldn't have tried to buy himself into the game. I agree, the CSM avatar thing gives you false sense of security, but there are so many examples on the forums about goons scamming, that you should have known there was a BIG risk to take. As I did when I got scammed for 800M by a goon (Badddd goons ! ) If you knew it and took it willingly then you shouldn't be complaining. I also think there should be a better ingame option for these kind of contracts, cause trust you cant have in a game where scamming is allowed. And I do think there should be a rule that scamming is allowed here, but only INGAME. So no website or any other tools outside EVE. In a lot of countries its even illegal to do so, cause the virtual isks have a value in game. But no worries, life will be goon again in EVE when I take over the CSM board .... . I will change it all and will not accept anything below 20B!
Pel Xadi Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2011.11.11 11:31:00 - [390] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: If Eve have as CSM chairman a lousy scammer, I do understand what community this game has. Well, most of it's members. Exactly as in real life. Lots of shitheads. Too many, can't fight them all. Seems this scam couldn't have happened to a more deserving individual. Had sympathised with the loss previously, was understandable to a point, but as soon as you descended into the generalising insults you yourself became one of these fabricated "shitheads" you desperatley seem to want to beleive are rampant within the gaming community. Way to go to encourage support towards any cause you think justified. If it wasn't stupidity before, but just missplaced trust, it seems your debate is descending into "knuckle scraping" cleverness now.

AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 5	Posted - 2011.11.11 11:34:00 - [391] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Why would you even want to fight everyone? It's so much more efficient to adapt yourself than it is to throw a fit when the rest of the world does not conform to how you'd like it to be. By that I don't mean that I'm smart and the rest are stupid. That's would be the very first sign that I'm the stupid one. I don't wanna fight all, obviously it would be an endless fight that I cannot win. What I wanted to point out is that a CSM should not be involved in such thing. You can clearly see when a CSM is on a thread. That fooled me, I thought they actually create a better communication between players and CCP. CCP obviously admit they exist, that's why they have "CSM' on their avatar. So it's kinda complicated for me to understand why the one who's there to help ( at least that's what they supposed to do ), are doing something I, for example, shouldn't be proud about it. I worked my ass earning the isk in game without a single scam. And in a few minutes, the CSM chairman decided to scam me cos he was bored maybe? Sad to be him, that's my opinion.
Helicity Boson Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 28	Posted - 2011.11.11 11:44:00 - [392] - Quote Can't scam an honest man!
Lyris Nairn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3330	Posted - 2011.11.11 11:49:00 - [393] - Quote Does that mean that Admiral Thrawn is a dishonest man? Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM Theta Squad : Best Squad
Helicity Boson Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 28	Posted - 2011.11.11 11:51:00 - [394] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Does that mean that Admiral Thrawn is a dishonest man? Yes, I suppose it does. Shameful and dishonest.
Sirane Elrek GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 17	Posted - 2011.11.11 12:03:00 - [395] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: I thought they actually create a better communication between players and CCP. I don't understand how you getting scammed precludes that. Admiral Thrawn wrote: CCP obviously admit they exist, that's why they have "CSM' on their avatar. Do you see "CSM" in front of Mittens's name in the game? Or is there an overlay saying "CSM" on his avatar there? Because I'm pretty sure there isn't. And even assuming (without prejudice) that your logs may be legitimate, they still don't say "Hi I'm a member of the CSM so you should trust me". So he only has "CSM" on his avatar on this very forum. A forum where every second thread says "I HAVEGÇï BEENGÇï SCAMMEDGÇï BY AGÇï GOON, BEWARE". Not to mention that text he writes isn't in a special color, like it is with EVERY OTHER CCP REP. So the only thing that says "Mittani is representing CCP" is your own imagination. But rest assured that GMs and other CCP employees on their official GM or CCP characters won't scam you (that second).
Dervinus Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore 14	Posted - 2011.11.11 12:42:00 - [396] - Quote Lyris Nairn wrote: Does that mean that Admiral Thrawn is a dishonest man? I see no other alternative
Alua Oresson The Dominion of Light BLACK-MARK 41	Posted - 2011.11.11 12:47:00 - [397] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: So it's kinda complicated for me to understand why the one who's there to help ( at least that's what they supposed to do ), are doing something I, for example, shouldn't be proud about it. I worked my ass earning the isk in game without a single scam. And in a few minutes, the CSM chairman decided to scam me cos he was bored maybe? Sad to be him, that's my opinion. Yes, the CSM is there to facilitate communications between the playerbase and CCP. If you go to the CSM area of the forums and make a suggestion for a change to the game that you believe to be a good change (and other players find to be a good change), the CSM will bring it to the attention of the appropriate CCP people. That is what their job is. Besides doing their job they are free to do whatever they wish in a game. What you are suggesting is that the CSM should cease doing thing that run counter to your morals when they are playing the game. To me, THAT is an immoral idea. What you are advocating is for people that already spend unpaid time working to make the game better to conform to your code of ethics. I have no words to describe how evil and repugnant your demands are.
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 5	Posted - 2011.11.11 12:52:00 - [398] - Quote Sirane Elrek wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: I thought they actually create a better communication between players and CCP. I don't understand how you getting scammed precludes that. Admiral Thrawn wrote: CCP obviously admit they exist, that's why they have "CSM' on their avatar. Do you see "CSM" in front of Mittens's name in the game? Or is there an overlay saying "CSM" on his avatar there? Because I'm pretty sure there isn't. And even assuming (without prejudice) that your logs may be legitimate, they still don't say "Hi I'm a member of the CSM so you should trust me". So he only has "CSM" on his avatar on this very forum. A forum where every second thread says "I HAVEGÇï BEENGÇï SCAMMEDGÇï BY AGÇï GOON, BEWARE". Not to mention that text he writes isn't in a special color, like it is with EVERY OTHER CCP REP. So the only thing that says "Mittani is representing CCP" is your own imagination. But rest assured that GMs and other CCP employees on their official GM or CCP characters won't scam you (that second). I never said that guy represents CCP, I dunno where did you get that. I said that being a CSM, he supposed to help community to have a closer relation with CCP. When the buyer told me about Mittani, I asked if he did any 3rd party before and he/she linked me the page where says that mittani is the chairman of CSM, also said that sold his/her Erebus before. I dunno if the buyer is actually a mittani alt or not but he/she recommended him as a trustful person as being the CHAIRMAN of CSM. They obviously worked together or mittani alone with his alt. If in your eyes I am stupid cos I fell for this scam, then you must rethink your scale of values in life. Actually, many players do in games what they would do in real life. So I have to say, I feel much better in my shoes rather than be in his....even if I fell for this scam...space internet money...Way to go mittani, go represent the community. If he represents the community then I defo am not part of it.
Mullokad Iwaira Perkone Caldari State 0	Posted - 2011.11.11 12:59:00 - [399] - Quote As a CSM the "Mittens" is the ducks nut, no other CSM has his finger on the pulse on EVE like this peep does! BUT you did a transaction with a GOON? What the ** are you smokiing? What the ** did you expect!
Mortis vonShadow Balanaz Mining and Development Inc. 326	Posted - 2011.11.11 13:00:00 - [400] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: If he represents the community then I defo am not part of it. Before you unsub in a fit of rage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGplrpWvz0I This is definately about you. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun.

Nathan Jameson Talocan Dominion Talocan United 73	Posted - 2011.11.11 13:05:00 - [401] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Way to go mittani, go represent the community. If he represents the community then I defo am not part of it. Hello, you must be new to EVE. Next you'll be telling me a known and highly-publicized outlaw didn't get voted in as an CSM alternate specifically by scamming and deceiving people out of their votes.
Alua Oresson The Dominion of Light BLACK-MARK 41	Posted - 2011.11.11 13:06:00 - [402] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: When the buyer told me about Mittani, I asked if he did any 3rd party before and he/she linked me the page where says that mittani is the chairman of CSM, also said that sold his/her Erebus before. So, you went and had the buyer tell you who you could trust? Excuse me... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Could I buy a supercap from you? I have this great third party we can use...
Sutskop PILSGESCHWADER Monkey Circus 7	Posted - 2011.11.11 13:15:00 - [403] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: If Eve have as CSM chairman a lousy scammer, I do understand what community this game has. Well, most of it's members. Exactly as in real life. Lots of shitheads. Too many, can't fight them all. Exactly why I quit Counterstrike. Full of idiots trying to kill me.
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 5	Posted - 2011.11.11 13:35:00 - [404] - Quote Alua Oresson wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: When the buyer told me about Mittani, I asked if he did any 3rd party before and he/she linked me the page where says that mittani is the chairman of CSM, also said that sold his/her Erebus before. So, you went and had the buyer tell you who you could trust? Excuse me... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Could I buy a supercap from you? I have this great third party we can use... Sure thing...but better be chairman of some sort of Syndicate too... Anyway, ppl vote for a scammer, that's cool...You working on a scientific project to resurrect ****** too? There are some more names worth to mention...then we'll have a better world.
CoLe Blackblood the united Negative Ten. 8	Posted - 2011.11.11 13:44:00 - [405] - Quote Just hope they remember to pay their bills or it's lights out!
Elise DarkStar DarkCorp Capital Group DarkCorp Imperium 137	Posted - 2011.11.11 13:52:00 - [406] - Quote 21 pages for a spacehitler reference? Man, I didn't think we were ever going to get it there for a bit.
Nephilius Pillage and Plunder Salvage Co. 21	Posted - 2011.11.11 13:52:00 - [407] - Quote Xenuria wrote: Tyrone Cashmoney wrote: Xenuria wrote: Lyris Nairn wrote: Hey now that's MY CEO 90% of the Goons you see in eve today are just people who have SA accounts and posted on the forums. They are not real goons. The secret is out! That is not a secret... Who is really running goonswarm, now that is a secret. The Blizzard Dev team. Eve Online: The only kung-fu pandas here are the ones mission grinding for RMT.
Cerisia Lone Star enterprises 396	Posted - 2011.11.11 15:14:00 - [408] - Quote Ispia Jaydrath wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Zions Child wrote: Ohai der. I do believe you have posted the first reply on the nineteenth page of this here whine thread. I hope you have read through the whole thing, as it is fabulous. Butthurt stuff. Hee hee! The best part of this whole thing is that the more mittens makes worthless scrubs like you cry, the more everybody loves and respects him. You are literally earning him votes in the next election right now. He has my vote (for what it's worth) This space for rent..
Cerisia Lone Star enterprises 396	Posted - 2011.11.11 15:17:00 - [409] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: If Eve have as CSM chairman a lousy scammer, I do understand what community this game has. Well, most of it's members. Exactly as in real life. Lots of shitheads. Too many, can't fight them all. Ahhh Now the penny is beginning to drop methinks.... This space for rent..
Alua Oresson The Dominion of Light BLACK-MARK 41	Posted - 2011.11.11 15:30:00 - [410] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Alua Oresson wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: When the buyer told me about Mittani, I asked if he did any 3rd party before and he/she linked me the page where says that mittani is the chairman of CSM, also said that sold his/her Erebus before. So, you went and had the buyer tell you who you could trust? Excuse me... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Could I buy a supercap from you? I have this great third party we can use... Sure thing...but better be chairman of some sort of Syndicate too... Anyway, ppl vote for a scammer, that's cool...You working on a scientific project to resurrect ****** too? There are some more names worth to mention...then we'll have a better world. /bows I win!

Sarah xCalibre FLA5HY RED The Defenders of Pen Island 2	Posted - 2011.11.11 15:32:00 - [411] - Quote This thread got boring now. Cudos to Mitt, but really, lol. Director of FLA5HY RED - Sarah xCalibre
Gumpin S0utherN Comfort Controlled Chaos 0	Posted - 2011.11.11 15:41:00 - [412] - Quote This is the thread that keeps on giving. Im going to have to update my conclusion about the mighty commander of something here though. Quote: Think of some kind of contracts that can be made for ships that cannot dock. What if Chribba, Darknesss and Wirox die tomorrow? We will never trade big ships cos we can't trust anyone else ! This. This right here is solid gold. He thinks player run things are actually a planned, coded, and paid for part of the game. I bet this guy even invested in Phaser Inc. PS: You're not stupid because you fell for a scam. Its because you ASSUMED it couldn't possibly happen.
Alara IonStorm RvB - BLUE Republic 402	Posted - 2011.11.11 17:10:00 - [413] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: You working on a scientific project to resurrect ****** too? There are some more names worth to mention...then we'll have a better world. Gentlemen we have achieved Godwin. We are now at 1.
Tjo Sephagen The Roaches UNI0N. 8	Posted - 2011.11.11 17:37:00 - [414] - Quote Now that we've gotten the space-**** reference out of the way, we can get back to the topic at hand. How do you like the new avatar? I went more sci-fi and less Venus Vermillion.
Sverige Pahis Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation 299	Posted - 2011.11.11 17:52:00 - [415] - Quote I like the background.
Angry Onions Dark Pheonix Technologies 155	Posted - 2011.11.11 18:01:00 - [416] - Quote I like how their is conspiracy theories about GoonSwarm and CCP. Its also kinda funny how they resemble US and /aliens/supposed enemies/corporations conspiracy theories. Also, notice how conspiracy is like cons-piracy, like a con-artist being a pirate? (Mind blown yet?) Also, WHY THE HELL IS THIS 21 PAGES LONG?! E .-+ ` ' / -+. F Your Carebear tears fuel us
Alua Oresson The Dominion of Light BLACK-MARK 41	Posted - 2011.11.11 18:13:00 - [417] - Quote Angry Onions wrote: I like how their is conspiracy theories about GoonSwarm and CCP. Its also kinda funny how they resemble US and /aliens/supposed enemies/corporations conspiracy theories. Also, notice how conspiracy is like cons-piracy, like a con-artist being a pirate? (Mind blown yet?) Also, WHY THE HELL IS THIS 21 PAGES LONG?! Because, the OP is stupid beyond all comprehension. I don't think that even after overwhelming evidence that people can truely believe that the OP is this clueless. Oh, and (Grand) Admiral Thrawn, you are have obviously never heard or understood the phrase "Caveat Emptor" have you?
Zions Child Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance 65	Posted - 2011.11.11 18:31:00 - [418] - Quote TL;DR: Mittens blatantly accused of scamming by some revenge stricken child who is terrible at faking logs. People assume that even if Mittens were to have scammed him, the idiot deserved he, because he is a special type of stupid in this game. That's 21 pages of lols summed up right there. Anyways, Mr Thrawn, I have a Nyx I can let you have for 5 Bill. I know a very trustworthy third-party too that we can use. Just meet me in Rancer.
Lemok Sonji United Highsec Front The 99 Percent 3	Posted - 2011.11.11 18:54:00 - [419] - Quote To be honest, the fact that The Mittani is in CSM says a lot about the game. That its just full of love, hugs, dancing and lots and lots of teddy bears. So I don't see how he can be accused of scamming. There is no scamming in EVE. Only love. So... yeah... Stop with the hating
Hero Tackler Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2011.11.11 19:25:00 - [420] - Quote What page is this?

Lunas Whisper Chillwater Ltd Imperial Ascension 20	Posted - 2011.11.11 20:13:00 - [421] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: I still got no answer for this : Why do the CSM guys have CSM on their avatar ? I do understand why GM's have GM written on their avatar, so you know he/she is a GAME MASTER ! So when a GM says anything, you listen cos he may have something important/interesting to say. They have them there so you can bring opinions to them if you so choose too. They can if they so choose relay the feed back to CCP if it falls within there platform. As for altering the way they play the game every competent player knows that those Characters still live by the same rules as everyone else and the rest loose 20bil because they did not take the 5 min to find out what that tag means. Basically it is your fault you did not do the research and no one else. Quoting for Truth
Kharthis Jian GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 0	Posted - 2011.11.11 20:14:00 - [422] - Quote 21 pages over some faked chatlogs - what is this game coming to? Admiral Thrawn should get a job as a political spin-doctor, he's quite dedicated to ruining good people that are only trying to help out the common man. Take your hate mongering elsewhere you animal.
Lunas Whisper Chillwater Ltd Imperial Ascension 20	Posted - 2011.11.11 20:14:00 - [423] - Quote Ispia Jaydrath wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Zions Child wrote: Ohai der. I do believe you have posted the first reply on the nineteenth page of this here whine thread. I hope you have read through the whole thing, as it is fabulous. It is fabulous but in a very sad way. I still got no answer for this : Why do the CSM guys have CSM on their avatar ? I do understand why GM's have GM written on their avatar, so you know he/she is a GAME MASTER ! So when a GM says anything, you listen cos he may have something important/interesting to say. Why do I see CSM on a guy if he's got nothing to say ? On the contrary, he's a scammer, liar and proud of it ? Why does he get to go to Iceland, to set a camp fire and tell CCP who and how he scammed people in game using his CSM text on his avatar ??? CCP and GM's : I do know it's a game where scams are allowed but this kind of scam is not acceptable. What if tomorrow a GM scams you? Why not, they do play the game sometimes, they can enjoy it as everyone else, right ? Then what next ? Think of some kind of contracts that can be made for ships that cannot dock. What if Chribba, Darknesss and Wirox die tomorrow? We will never trade big ships cos we can't trust anyone else ! Remove the mittani scumbag from CSM, gives a bad name to whatever Council that is. Hee hee! The best part of this whole thing is that the more mittens makes worthless scrubs like you cry, the more everybody loves and respects him. You are literally earning him votes in the next election right now. That's a bit of an exaggeration.
Helicity Boson Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 35	Posted - 2011.11.11 20:37:00 - [424] - Quote Lunas Whisper wrote: That's a bit of an exaggeration. Confirming I vote mittani.
Rub Jubblies Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2011.11.11 20:39:00 - [425] - Quote Lunas Whisper wrote: Ispia Jaydrath wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Zions Child wrote: Ohai der. I do believe you have posted the first reply on the nineteenth page of this here whine thread. I hope you have read through the whole thing, as it is fabulous. It is fabulous but in a very sad way. I still got no answer for this : Why do the CSM guys have CSM on their avatar ? I do understand why GM's have GM written on their avatar, so you know he/she is a GAME MASTER ! So when a GM says anything, you listen cos he may have something important/interesting to say. Why do I see CSM on a guy if he's got nothing to say ? On the contrary, he's a scammer, liar and proud of it ? Why does he get to go to Iceland, to set a camp fire and tell CCP who and how he scammed people in game using his CSM text on his avatar ??? CCP and GM's : I do know it's a game where scams are allowed but this kind of scam is not acceptable. What if tomorrow a GM scams you? Why not, they do play the game sometimes, they can enjoy it as everyone else, right ? Then what next ? Think of some kind of contracts that can be made for ships that cannot dock. What if Chribba, Darknesss and Wirox die tomorrow? We will never trade big ships cos we can't trust anyone else ! Remove the mittani scumbag from CSM, gives a bad name to whatever Council that is. Hee hee! The best part of this whole thing is that the more mittens makes worthless scrubs like you cry, the more everybody loves and respects him. You are literally earning him votes in the next election right now. That's a bit of an exaggeration. Actually. It DOES make me love him all the more, and should he choose to run again, he has my vote Our last chair(wo)man was a pirate, but nothing on this scale. Bravo Mr Chairman
Tasko Pal Spallated Garniferous Schist 14	Posted - 2011.11.11 21:04:00 - [426] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Anyway, ppl vote for a scammer, that's cool... I don't think you get it. Who do you think voted for Mittani? He and his constituency will be high fiving each other for weeks over what just happened to you and this thread you created. You'd be better off if you just stopped posting on the matter. Not that I'd want that, mind you.
Ispia Jaydrath Reib Autonomous Industries 9	Posted - 2011.11.11 21:33:00 - [427] - Quote Lunas Whisper wrote: Ispia Jaydrath wrote: Hee hee! The best part of this whole thing is that the more mittens makes worthless scrubs like you cry, the more everybody loves and respects him. You are literally earning him votes in the next election right now. That's a bit of an exaggeration. I could have said "everybody who isn't a worthless scrub", but scrubs aren't really people.
Cerisia Lone Star enterprises 397	Posted - 2011.11.11 22:32:00 - [428] - Quote Tasko Pal wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Anyway, ppl vote for a scammer, that's cool... I don't think you get it. Who do you think voted for Mittani? He and his constituency will be high fiving each other for weeks over what just happened to you and this thread you created. You'd be better off if you just stopped posting on the matter. Not that I'd want that, mind you. Quoted for the truth... This space for rent..
Tak149 Wabbit Fabbit Industries Beacon Light Alliance 0	Posted - 2011.11.12 01:39:00 - [429] - Quote Ispia Jaydrath wrote: Lunas Whisper wrote: Ispia Jaydrath wrote: Hee hee! The best part of this whole thing is that the more mittens makes worthless scrubs like you cry, the more everybody loves and respects him. You are literally earning him votes in the next election right now. That's a bit of an exaggeration. I could have said "everybody who isn't a worthless scrub", but scrubs aren't really people. And so a good time was had by all.
MentaL DoG Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD. 6	Posted - 2011.11.12 01:39:00 - [430] - Quote he doesn't need anyone else vote he will just get his alliance to vote him in, ccp should have done something about him using the CSM name to scam but your right your allowed to scam so fare play, hes still a Jew for using the csm title in this way, what i know of him is hes a small (short) man trying to play a big shot in a game, giving him a even bigger ego then hes already got, CSM was ment to be about ccp talking to the players this tard it seems just wanted the glory or coming in first. way to go, fu ck it VOTE D3 next time. get that stupid cu nt Mitt out

Khanh'rhh Sudden Buggery 295	Posted - 2011.11.12 02:19:00 - [431] - Quote MentaL DoG wrote: he doesn't need anyone else vote he will just get his alliance to vote him in, ccp should have done something about him using the CSM name to scam but your right your allowed to scam so fare play, hes still a Jew for using the csm title in this way, what i know of him is hes a small (short) man trying to play a big shot in a game, giving him a even bigger ego then hes already got, CSM was ment to be about ccp talking to the players this tard it seems just wanted the glory or coming in first. way to go, fu ck it VOTE D3 next time. get that stupid cu nt Mitt out Brick squad in shocking violation of the English language. More on this at 11. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's
Anna Lynne Larson Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2011.11.12 02:31:00 - [432] - Quote ITT dude with unoriginal name gets scammed by king of space, cries. Business as usual.
MarcusFenix2 Wrecking Shots Morsus Mihi 0	Posted - 2011.11.12 02:40:00 - [433] - Quote it would take a tactical genius to scam all of eve at once... wait a minit
Mortis vonShadow Balanaz Mining and Development Inc. 326	Posted - 2011.11.12 02:49:00 - [434] - Quote MentaL DoG wrote: he doesn't need anyone else vote he will just get his alliance to vote him in, ccp should have done something about him using the CSM name to scam but your right your allowed to scam so fare play, hes still a Jew for using the csm title in this way, what i know of him is hes a small (short) man trying to play a big shot in a game, giving him a even bigger ego then hes already got, CSM was ment to be about ccp talking to the players this tard it seems just wanted the glory or coming in first. way to go, fu ck it VOTE D3 next time. get that stupid cu nt Mitt out Are you perhaps anti-semitic? I find your use of a slur very offensive. Are you perhaps ignorant? I find your slaughter of the English language offensive. Are you perhaps a mental defect? I find your use of slander against The Mittani offensive. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun.
Lord Mandelor Consolidated Holdings War Ensemble. 61	Posted - 2011.11.12 02:53:00 - [435] - Quote MarcusFenix2 wrote: it would take a tactical genius to scam all of eve at once... wait a minit CREEEEEED! ConHo Daily: http://conhodaily.blogspot.com Stories ranging from midgets inside your Damage Control to drones becoming self-aware.
Amara Jade Insanity United 9	Posted - 2011.11.12 03:24:00 - [436] - Quote Mortis vonShadow wrote: MentaL DoG wrote: he doesn't need anyone else vote he will just get his alliance to vote him in, ccp should have done something about him using the CSM name to scam but your right your allowed to scam so fare play, hes still a Jew for using the csm title in this way, what i know of him is hes a small (short) man trying to play a big shot in a game, giving him a even bigger ego then hes already got, CSM was ment to be about ccp talking to the players this tard it seems just wanted the glory or coming in first. way to go, fu ck it VOTE D3 next time. get that stupid cu nt Mitt out Are you perhaps anti-semitic? I find your use of a slur very offensive. Are you perhaps ignorant? I find your slaughter of the English language offensive. Are you perhaps a mental defect? I find your use of slander against The Mittani offensive. Everyone please report MentaL DoG for using racial slurs and evading the curseword filter. Goonswarm tries to make the world a better place and you just go spreading hate and violence and illiteracy everywhere.
Probably Smashed GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 4	Posted - 2011.11.12 03:51:00 - [437] - Quote MentaL DoG wrote: he doesn't need anyone else vote he will just get his alliance to vote him in, ccp should have done something about him using the CSM name to scam but your right your allowed to scam so fare play, hes still a Jew for using the csm title in this way, what i know of him is hes a small (short) man trying to play a big shot in a game, giving him a even bigger ego then hes already got, CSM was ment to be about ccp talking to the players this tard it seems just wanted the glory or coming in first. way to go, fu ck it VOTE D3 next time. get that stupid cu nt Mitt out He'll get out when you undock. Oh wait, you can't, your space is full of Goonswarm. Also I met a Brick Squad yesterday who could spell and was actually kind of funny, I was shocked and aroused.
Killstealing Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild 143	Posted - 2011.11.12 04:28:00 - [438] - Quote MarcusFenix2 wrote: it would take a tactical genius to scam all of eve at once... wait a minit get vlades on the phone wait
Killstealing Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild 143	Posted - 2011.11.12 04:29:00 - [439] - Quote Probably Smashed wrote: MentaL DoG wrote: he doesn't need anyone else vote he will just get his alliance to vote him in, ccp should have done something about him using the CSM name to scam but your right your allowed to scam so fare play, hes still a Jew for using the csm title in this way, what i know of him is hes a small (short) man trying to play a big shot in a game, giving him a even bigger ego then hes already got, CSM was ment to be about ccp talking to the players this tard it seems just wanted the glory or coming in first. way to go, fu ck it VOTE D3 next time. get that stupid cu nt Mitt out He'll get out when you undock. Oh wait, you can't, your space is full of Goonswarm. Also I met a Brick Squad yesterday who could spell and was actually kind of funny, I was shocked and aroused. that guy was probably just spying on them.
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 5	Posted - 2011.11.12 04:29:00 - [440] - Quote [/quote]Everyone please report MentaL DoG for using racial slurs and evading the curseword filter. Goonswarm tries to make the world a better place and you just go spreading hate and violence and illiteracy everywhere.[/quote] You got alot of nerve don't you? Were you flying my Nyx while typing this ?

Killstealing Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild 143	Posted - 2011.11.12 04:30:00 - [441] - Quote yada yada get out
Amara Jade Insanity United 10	Posted - 2011.11.12 04:36:00 - [442] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Everyone please report MentaL DoG for using racial slurs and evading the curseword filter. Goonswarm tries to make the world a better place and you just go spreading hate and violence and illiteracy everywhere.[/quote] You got alot of nerve don't you? Were you flying my Nyx while typing this ?[/quote] You managed to screw up pressing the quote button, how cute.
AdmiraI Thrawn Anormalii S.A. Vera Cruz Alliance 5	Posted - 2011.11.12 04:46:00 - [443] - Quote Amara Jade wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: [./quote]Everyone please report MentaL DoG for using racial slurs and evading the curseword filter. Goonswarm tries to make the world a better place and you just go spreading hate and violence and illiteracy everywhere.[./quote] You got alot of nerve don't you? Were you flying my Nyx while typing this ? You managed to screw up pressing the quote button, how cute. We've been over this, what nyx? Just admit you faked the chatlogs already kid. LOL, what NYX :)))) mittani's alt, right? You alone admitted in some earlier posts, as well as that lousy scum. You may have had hit your head and forgot about it. No worries, I will be around to refresh your memory :)
Xenuria Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet 21	Posted - 2011.11.12 04:52:00 - [444] - Quote I will handle this personally.
Dirty Weegie The Dirty Rejects Scelus Sceleris. 0	Posted - 2011.11.12 07:01:00 - [445] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: he abused me using his position lolz If you can't win fair... Cheat
Andski GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 718	Posted - 2011.11.12 08:14:00 - [446] - Quote Xenuria wrote: I will handle this personally. Yes, I recommend Xenuria for handling scammers. His fees are very reasonable.
Amara Jade Insanity United 11	Posted - 2011.11.12 08:45:00 - [447] - Quote AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: Amara Jade wrote: AdmiraI Thrawn wrote: [./quote]Everyone please report MentaL DoG for using racial slurs and evading the curseword filter. Goonswarm tries to make the world a better place and you just go spreading hate and violence and illiteracy everywhere.[./quote] You got alot of nerve don't you? Were you flying my Nyx while typing this ? You managed to screw up pressing the quote button, how cute. We've been over this, what nyx? Just admit you faked the chatlogs already kid. LOL, what NYX :)))) mittani's alt, right? You alone admitted in some earlier posts, as well as that lousy scum. You may have had hit your head and forgot about it. No worries, I will be around to refresh your memory :) Should I feel good or bad that I'm assumed to be The Mittani's alt for 23 pages? Guess it feels pretty good to have Admiral Thrawn take the time to not only fake chatlogs but to waste his obviously limited mental cycles fueling the fire.

CCP Phantom C C P C C P Alliance 149	Posted - 2011.11.12 09:19:00 - [448] - Quote As per Crime and Punishment forum rules: "The posting of chatlogs and EVEmails is not permitted." Thread locked. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator



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