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Mr Crowley
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:25:00 -
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There is just to much grief play in eve to make it a worthwhile investment of both time to play it and build your charactor up and the subscription cost.
I am sure this discussion has come up before and I dont care what people think. Blasting a indy, frigate, noob ship, or shuttle because because your battle ship can tank the guns long enough to do it is not RP.
I am a trader, I spend hours in a indy flying from region to region bringing people minerals and other things that are in demand. Obviously I stay in empire space because my 1.6 million skill points, and the fact that I cant fly anything other then a frigate or indy, means I am not here for PVP.
Yesterday I got podded in a .4 with 80million worth of mega in my hold. No chance to barter, to buy my freedom, I was just blown up, and my mega with it.
Left with 30 million to continue trading with today I happily logged on, ready to rebuild my capitol back up so what I was doing would actually be worthwhile agian. Nope, with 300k of the 500 isogen I had bought to take to the forge and make 3million off of agian I was capped. This time I screamed in local while they were targeting me "how much for my ship?" They did not heed my plea and instead blew me up, and my isogen with it. Unknowing my iso was gone I went to a station, and tried to barter for my can, unknowing how I was going to buy a new industrail ship to pick it up in. While I was trying to buy my can my pod was insta locked and destroyed.
I left eve months ago over grief play, and it just seems to be worse now. I wish I could get a refund on my credit card, because the two days I have used of my subscription have certianly been a less then enjoyable experiance.
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Haniblecter Teg
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:27:00 -
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You go into low sec empire with an indy, and you complain when you get popped?
Simple rule, until you get into a 00 alliance or residency status, there's no reason to get in <.5 space.
If you do, you should be popped
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:28:00 -
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If you were flying trough low sec spac with that much value in cargo in your hold you should have got a scout and/or escort. For the pirate they hit the jackpot.
If you can't handle eve having genuine risks in low sec space either don't go there or don't play.
Sorry if this sounds harsh but eve does not hold your hand and calling it greif play is more childish than anything.
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lofty29
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:31:00 -
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Generally, if you scream 'ZOMG WTF HOW MUCH ILL PAY ILL PAY' in local, they'll pop you, cos they think you have something worthwhile 
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:31:00 -
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You go through lowsec with 80 million megacyte? With nobody to help scout for you?
Next time get somebody to scout for you. Sure, you won't make as much money but you mitigate a lot of the risk with going through low sec space.
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Jobie Thickburger
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:34:00 -
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Its all part of the game! So you got stuck while trying to go through low sec space. Happens to the best of us.
Just remember, ITS ONLY A GAME! Its not like you lost anything of any real value by getting taken out by a pirate! Just suck it up and try again, while avoiding going into low sec to do trade.
(P.S. Have you considered the possibility that the place you were going to sell at was purposly set to a high price to attract traders like yourself to jump into the trap?)
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Hatiras
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:35:00 -
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What you call griefing is what other calls fun. This isn't even really griefing it's not as if they harassed you, they were pirates and saw an oppertunity. It's too bad you feel this way but personally that is one of the parts I love about Eve. When I started a new character the only place I could get an agent was in .3 space for a particular corp. With only 800k sp I went out there in my frigate and started running missions. I enjoyed the danger of being in low sec, having to keep an eye on who was around, just in case. It made the game much more exciting to play. I knew that I wouldn't be considered a high priority target with my lvl 1 mission junk in the cargo, but you never know who you'll run into. After I earned enough faction to go up into High Sec space, it just wasn't the same running missions.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:39:00 -
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Thread cleaned up. Please remember that disagreeing with a poster isn't the same as trolling and flaming. You can do the first, not the latter.
Now, since I was nice enough not to warn for the posts I removed, I expect very polite replies in the future, even if you do disagree. Constructive and friendly posts gentlemen and ladies. And if you can't do that you should refrain from posting. And if that's also impossible, you'll just have to live with the warnings.
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Jade Skye
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:40:00 -
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People that annoys me the most in EvE are all the forum *****\flamers with their smartass comments.
To the OP:Never ever fly valueable in a indy without proper scouting\support. Also there are better ships for moving stuff like megacyte\zydrine.
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mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
Thread cleaned up. Please remember that disagreeing with a poster isn't the same as trolling and flaming. You can do the first, not the latter.
Now, since I was nice enough not to warn for the posts I removed, I expect very polite replies in the future, even if you do disagree. Constructive and friendly posts gentlemen and ladies. And if you can't do that you should refrain from posting. And if that's also impossible, you'll just have to live with the warnings.
Sorry Wrangler :(
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Leon 026
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:42:00 -
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Edited by: Leon 026 on 07/04/2006 15:42:33
Why werent you using your map to see the camped up systems and avoided? Why were you taking the short route instead of safe 0.5+ route between regional systems? Why were you carrying 80mil worth of stuff in 0.4 in a defenseless hauler?
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:43:00 -
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Bye.
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Jobie Thickburger
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jobie Thickburger
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Happy Hunting and Mining, Put please, No Happily Hunting Happy Miners!
Jobie Thickburger
Captain of My Life Savings
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Skye
People that annoys me the most in EvE are all the forum *****\flamers with their smartass comments.
To the OP:Never ever fly valueable in a indy without proper scouting\support. Also there are better ships for moving stuff like megacyte\zydrine.
I was hauling around 4-5 million ISK in zydrine and megacyte earlier today in my Vengeance from Yahyerer which is in low sec empire space. 
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Stephen Chow
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:46:00 -
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The OP is doing a melodramatic "farewell, you won't have me to kick around anymore" routine. Seen it way too many times. It's just tiring.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:47:00 -
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Ok, since we're being constructive. I think the problem for you is in two parts. First, you disagree with the way this game is built up. Unfortunately, anything below 0.5 security space is unsecure and you have to protect yourself. In 0.5 and above, you have CONCORD protecting you.
The second problem is that you're not experienced enough to be alone in unsecure space and or you haven't found friends (joined a coproration) who can help you and protect you. While it is very possible to freelance in this game, it is largely based on people playing together in corporations and alliances. At least it's easier.
My suggestion would be that you start looking for a good corporation, even if you want to play alone they can teach you how to take care of yourself better. And it's always worth trying it anyway.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
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Poor Wrangler.
3 threads a day? You must have a list of prepared statements, dont you?
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Rellik B00n
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:48:00 -
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add the 'pirates' to your address book for later on, theyll keep.
as far as it goes i agree with most of the replies here:
why would anyone take 80 million into low sec unprotected?
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: Stephen Chow
The OP is doing a melodramatic "farewell, you won't have me to kick around anymore" routine. Seen it way too many times. It's just tiring.
Normally I'd remove this, but just tell me, exactly how is your post helping?
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Ominus Decre
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Crowley
Blasting a indy, frigate, noob ship, or shuttle because because your battle ship can tank the guns long enough to do it is not RP.
I am a trader, I spend hours in a indy flying from region to region bringing people minerals and other things that are in demand. Obviously I stay in empire space because my 1.6 million skill points, and the fact that I cant fly anything other then a frigate or indy, means I am not here for PVP.
It appears there needs to be more emphasis placed upon preventive measures in EVE so the snivling adolecents can have fun too. Ok, sorry about that outburst...
To the OP:
You are complaining about "RP" or lackof?
You have 1.6m skill points but alledge that due to you low skill points you're unable to fly anything other then a frigate or an indy???
If you're obviously staying "in empire space" then how are you getting wrecked!?!?!
Some advice for the OP:
1. Ask for more advice from your corp members and on the forums about "how to avoid all possible PvP" then adhere to it.
2. Investing all your assets into a cargo hold or two is not only foolish, it's idiotic!
3. Hire some escorts!! Yes, you would be able to hire escorts from most channels including your corp channel. Offering a small fee upfront then a payout when you arrive at your destination. Also, offer a small compensation in the advent of your escorts loosing a ship. You should contract your escorts. 
4. Are you aware of the "hot plate syndrome"? If the plate is hot why are you continuing to get burned on it?
5. Protect you assets. This does not mean with a civilain laser turret. If I see an Indy and there's something good to be had and there's no escort...I'm going to be a little richer!!
6. Use your head. Think outside of the box.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
Thread cleaned up. Please remember that disagreeing with a poster isn't the same as trolling and flaming. You can do the first, not the latter.
sorry wrangler 
@ the OP: i think you have the wrong end of the stick. risk is what makes eve fun for me
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Andrue
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Crowley
There is just to much grief play in eve to make it a worthwhile investment of both time to play it and build your charactor up and the subscription cost.
I've been playing since Feb. 2004 (over two years) and only once got attacked (and lost a ship/clone) when I wasn't prepared or expecting it. Getting podded annoyed me because it was in Empire and at the time I thought it unwarranted. Since then I've realised why it has a useful purpose so I've learnt to anticipate it.
The other two or three times when I lost a ship was when I was expecting it, trying to break in or out of 0.0. Given how many times I made that journey losing twice is no biggy. The only one that annoyed me was losing an Apoc through sheer ineptitude and panic. A week later we signed an NOP with the attackers as well 
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SpaceDrake Taleweaver
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
Originally by: Stephen Chow
The OP is doing a melodramatic "farewell, you won't have me to kick around anymore" routine. Seen it way too many times. It's just tiring.
Normally I'd remove this, but just tell me, exactly how is your post helping?
Pointing out how the entire thread is pointless, really, since we won't be able to change the OP's mind.
But Crowley. Dude. 80 million Megacyte (even 80,000) in an unescorted hauler in lowsec? You must have known the inherent risk. The client beats you over the head with it in the tutorial and the first time you cross over into lowsec.
If you play the game, you accept the risk. Live with it, embrace it, compete with the players who want your resources, or find another way to pass your time.
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Stephen Chow
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
Originally by: Stephen Chow
The OP is doing a melodramatic "farewell, you won't have me to kick around anymore" routine. Seen it way too many times. It's just tiring.
Normally I'd remove this, but just tell me, exactly how is your post helping?
It's a plea for people to think before they post. It's inciting people to leave the game because they had a bad time. And in the end, how does that help at all?
A nice farewell is never bad, but the OP is just insulting everyone who loves the game by saying "this sucks, I'm out losers."
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:03:00 -
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Come on guys, be nice. Give him a break.
Stop flogging the dead horse.
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Come on guys, be nice. Give him a break.
Stop flogging the dead horse.
Fine.
Did you hear about CLS and DDC leaving Xetic?
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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:05:00 -
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Industrials are only ever for hauling low value commodities, never high end modules or minerals, no matter the system, you don't need to be a genious to figure this out.
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Crowley
I am sure this discussion has come up before and I dont care what people think. Blasting a indy, frigate, noob ship, or shuttle because because your battle ship can tank the guns long enough to do it is not RP.
I think you will have to explain why someone killing you isn't RP?
If your not here for the possibilty of risk and loss of any kind then I suggest you stay in high security empire.
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mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Aodha Khan
Originally by: Mr Crowley
I am sure this discussion has come up before and I dont care what people think. Blasting a indy, frigate, noob ship, or shuttle because because your battle ship can tank the guns long enough to do it is not RP.
I think you will have to explain why someone killing you isn't RP?
If your not here for the possibilty of risk and loss of any kind then I suggest you stay in high security empire.
*hugs aodha*
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:21:00 -
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Seriously, the tutorial should explain that CCP allows griefing in this game. And it should somehow show new players that things like this happen constantly, and are acceptable.
PPL should have knowledge of the workings of low sec b4 they play a trial account, and then buy a subscription...
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