Crumplecorn
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Posted - 2006.05.16 11:31:00 -
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You can safely skip reading the rest of this message if you want, it falls into the category of 'shut up whiners this is the way the game is and its not all ganking'.
Anyway, some points I would like to make having read most of this thread:
Griefing is a word thrown around way too often in this game. Griefing is deliberately making someone miserable. In a group sense this would be wardeccing noobs, in an individual sense this would be someone stalking you making life difficult.
Being killed is not griefing, even if you are a noob in a shuttle.
Getting killed repeatedly is not griefing unless they are following you around and constantly killing you in particular to annoy you.
Low-sec is lawless. Complaining about people killing everyone smaller than them is pointless, this is an area of space where anyone can do what they want.
Don't solo. A couple of people mentioned that one of the only ways to succeed is to be part of a team. This is by design.
Here is my experience with the game. I set up shop in a 0.5 system with a 0.4 system right next door. Kept making runs in in a destroyer to mine good ore, kept getting blown up. Why? Not because anyone had claimed ownership or anything, it was actually a system known for newbie pirates who liked to gank other noobs hanging around just outside secure space. Were they *******s? Considering people constantly warped in right on top of me and opened fire before I even realised they were there, quite possibly. Were they playing by the rules? Yes. Were they griefing? No. Did I have a lesson to learn? Yes.
Then I joined a corp.
Now I live in 0.3 space. In the system I now call home, most of the locals have such low sec ratings I have kill rights on them, and they almost all have bigger ships than me. Everywhere I go there are red flashing lines in my overview. But I feel safe there. Because now I am one of the locals, most these people aren't going to randomly shoot me.
This proves:
a) Non-empire space can be safe.
b) Non-empire space is more fun.
c) Not all players shoot on sight.
d) This game is about more than being allowed to do your own little thing. I have found a low-sec area which is fairly safe, and I have settled in. You can't just drive out into low-sec and expect the same (in fact you can safely expect the opposite), but it is out there if you play the game as intended. You must interact to succeed.
I have to say that the rapid switch between getting instaganked at every belt and being safe in low-sec just by moving to a different system and getting to know some people is a amazing thing, and really shows what a great game Eve is. It is a world of its own, there is danger and there is safety, and both can be found in the right place. Play the game and you can do anything you want. Sit in a corner and do your own thing ... you'll probably be fine, but don't complain when you're not.
PvP FTW!!!one
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