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Gr1mreaper	Posted - 2006.04.08 12:17:00 - [1] Persh NAPPED with the five for one reason only.... because FE were losing and he felt we would lose D7 and HW. He originally intended to betray them once FE built some dreads though that has clearly not happened. This is not speculation, it is a fact, persh told the GODS members this. The only other senor FE member who objected at the time was Krulls but for whatever reason changed his mind Maybe some of the new GODS and FE members don't know this or don't believe it which might explain some of the posts. anyway it is the truth, whether u chose to believe it or not
Antoinette Civari	Posted - 2006.04.08 12:29:00 - [2] Edited by: Antoinette Civari on 08/04/2006 12:29:33 give evidence or go away and end yourself :)
Darken Two	Posted - 2006.04.08 12:34:00 - [3] OHNOES THE SKY IS FALLING !!!!! WE ARE TEH BACKSTBZORRS !!!! PERSH IS EBIL !!!! Seriously nice try SP4NK dudes. Better luck next time. Perhaps next time you shouldn't cut and paste the exact same sentence your main posted in another thread. Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
Purgatori	Posted - 2006.04.08 12:35:00 - [4] Yeh build some dreads....as if there that usefull Maybe change your post to carriers. or fleet of IBIS Or... dont post at all. probably the better option
Gr1mreaper	Posted - 2006.04.08 12:36:00 - [5] Darken. This really shows how little u log in dude if you think Curse is my main Lol
slothe	Posted - 2006.04.08 12:37:00 - [6] Edited by: slothe on 08/04/2006 12:38:20 im sure it probably was discussed along with other options.. but once the nap with 5 kicked in and they showed they were committed to us and our previous allies clearly werent im sure this consideration was never further discussed. but hey who cares? only u it seems. im sure people who left f-e after the nap now regret it.
Darken Two	Posted - 2006.04.08 12:38:00 - [7] Edited by: Darken Two on 08/04/2006 12:41:26 Originally by: Gr1mreaper Darken. This really shows how little u log in dude if you think Curse is my main Lol Oh yea? Then why dont you use your main. Plus I never said you were Cursed. You just said it yourself. Stop making a fool out of yourself. On a sidenote, this tidbit you shared, has no purpose. I see it achieving nothing. So I dont see why an alt was needed at all. Ps. Even if we had such a thought, all such ideas were banished as soon as we saw how committed .5. were as allies. I have honestly never seen or had as good allies as they have been. Ofcourse KAOS has much <3 as well. Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
Gr1mreaper	Posted - 2006.04.08 12:41:00 - [8] statistically speaking there is a greater chance of me being a Krulls alt than any body elses alt...... but it just aint so. Finished with my woman cos she wouln't help me with my mind....... I see dead alts
Darken Two	Posted - 2006.04.08 12:43:00 - [9] Originally by: Gr1mreaper statistically speaking there is a greater chance of me being a Krulls alt than any body elses alt...... but it just aint so. Finished with my woman cos she wouln't help me with my mind....... I see dead alts LOL your obsession with persh is reaching new heights. Why does Persh get all the fanbois and I get left out. Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
INZi	Posted - 2006.04.08 12:44:00 - [10] FE, YOUR ALL GONNA BURN IN HELL! grim, wanna pillow fight? you look hot!
Jasmine Constantine	Posted - 2006.04.08 12:44:00 - [11] Its a bit silly to say that Pershaphanie did anything at all for only one reason. Unless you are that person how do you know what truly went on inside their mind? Do you have a brain-scanner and mind-reading device maybe? And sensibly speaking any leader needs contingencies against future uncertainty - I'd never follow anyone I wasn't pretty sure couldn't pull the fat out of the fire with clever politics and cunning intrigues myself. _________________
Gr1mreaper	Posted - 2006.04.08 12:51:00 - [12] Whatever people have said about Firekiller and the NAP I do not think he would approve of any GODS member dishonouring the CORP and the established EVE tradition of 1 v 1 combat between Pilots. It's like cheating in a Dual. VICTORY WITHOUT INTEGRITY IS LOSS
Gr1mreaper	Posted - 2006.04.08 12:53:00 - [13] Oh i FORGOT IT WAS A CDI MEMBER which explains it
Purgatori	Posted - 2006.04.08 12:54:00 - [14] Originally by: Gr1mreaper Oh i FORGOT IT WAS A CDI MEMBER which explains it Zzzz zz Sorry did you say some thing? Prove it or shove it
Gr1mreaper	Posted - 2006.04.08 13:00:00 - [15] Originally by: Purgatori Originally by: Gr1mreaper Oh i FORGOT IT WAS A CDI MEMBER which explains it Zzzz zz Sorry did you say some thing? Prove it or shove it Thats just silly dude, you have obviously lost the argument and have nothing bar diatribe to add
Purgatori	Posted - 2006.04.08 13:08:00 - [16] Originally by: Gr1mreaper Originally by: Purgatori Originally by: Gr1mreaper Oh i FORGOT IT WAS A CDI MEMBER which explains it Zzzz zz Sorry did you say some thing? Prove it or shove it Thats just silly dude, you have obviously lost the argument and have nothing bar diatribe to add What argument What i added to this fantastic post of your is that in a court of law if you wish to make a judgment like you have made you need evidence ? so where is yours ? If you have none . Then its false as cannot be proven . Im not arguing but its crystal clear that if you cannot show facts no one will belive you. i dont care if your telling the truth but in EVE. We all know what people make up so only way to show it is with evidence
Poister	Posted - 2006.04.08 13:12:00 - [17] yea thats about right but I was surprised to see kaos go along with the idea. still its old news now
Altar Mei	Posted - 2006.04.08 13:48:00 - [18] I respect the fact that spank disagreed and chose to leave because of that but why do some of your members need to bring it down to a personel lvl when it's a politcal issue? ROA disagreed as well but they've handled themselves with dignity. Sometimes what the majority of people want in an alliance isn't what they need. This has been hashed to death so I don't think I need to go into detail but what kept many of us around after Persh's decision was the appearance of so many hostile friendlies right after it was announced. It was also pretty clear that at the time FE did not have the capital fleet to compete with .5.(ATUK), the end result would have been a ridiculously long campaign of us blobbing d7 with no real ability to remove a well defended POS. (This is a bit speculative on my part as I'm not privy to leadership info) Throughing yourself on the sword for lofty idealism is honorable, but it also makes you dead. Besides looks like we'll be shooting eachother soon enough. 1 VS 1 should be honored but there's always a few bad eggs. Good luck on your vendetta.
Vishnej	Posted - 2006.04.08 13:58:00 - [19] This is more for the neutrals than the OP: Yes, backstabbing was discussed as a viable option, to be decided later down the road. Many of us really hated Five for their tactics - sniping, widespread spying, impeccable covops scouting, mandatory smack, unassailable NPC stations, the use of logging as a tactic... They weren't fun to fight. They didn't play the game the same way as us, there were no cases in thousands of engagements where the fight ended with a quarter of one side left alive saying "Good fight" to the pods. And fight them we did, to great lengths. Our Northern allies(who we saw as the reason we had Five to deal with) just weren't helping - and we had just developed an enemy in the south, Morsus Mihi + SNU. Even so, many of the strong corps in F-E had joined specifically because we fought the South, coming from dead alliances who had attempted the same and failed. The mere idea of backstabbing a few months down the line once we'd amended our complete impotence in POS warfare was something that could get F-E through it together, at a time when alliance leaders weren't talking to each other, certain members were spreading rumors actively trying to break us up, one of our biggest PvP corps had left and others were considering it (though almost all the CEOs had been consulted, their membership wasn't convinced), and we were not only despirited and often broke, but faced with both refinery stations becoming battlefields in a trench warfare situation. It was also a viable option - but one that was quashed once we flew a bit with Five on friendly terms and we saw PA/NBSI's response. As for Krullz - a lot of the flaming was coming from CDI members, and he wasn't an exception. In the end though, he decided in his words "I love F-E more than I hate Five." Two corps, many of the GODs members, and many indivuals decided otherwise. Integrity? Where's the integrity in hatred for someone in a game? Hatred deep enough that you'll stab your friends in the back when they decide that they don't hate as much as you do? We were recieving help from maybe 1% of PA and none of NBSI in H-PA - integrity would be backing someone up against a common enemy. Contribute to the Eve Wiki
Vishnej	Posted - 2006.04.08 14:02:00 - [20] As for betraying a 1vs1 - I think 90% of F-E disapproves of that, including me. Contribute to the Eve Wiki
INZi	Posted - 2006.04.08 14:17:00 - [21] Originally by: Poister yea thats about right but I was surprised to see kaos go along with the idea. still its old news now here I am, I am kaos dont tell me that I cant make a ironic statement without the "anything i say does not reflect bla bla bla bla alliance point of bla bla bla" welcome to kindergarden, can I hold you hand dear sir? chill alittle thank you
SinBin	Posted - 2006.04.08 14:30:00 - [22] Originally by: Darken Two Originally by: Gr1mreaper statistically speaking there is a greater chance of me being a Krulls alt than any body elses alt...... but it just aint so. Finished with my woman cos she wouln't help me with my mind....... I see dead alts LOL your obsession with persh is reaching new heights. Why does Persh get all the fanbois and I get left out. Thats simple man, you have to come online to be involved, or did I just forgot that your an alt of an alts cousins sisters brother ?. -------------------------- Originally by: INZi Originally by: Poister yea thats about right but I was surprised to see kaos go along with the idea. still its old news now here I am, I am kaos dont tell me that I cant make a ironic statement without the "anything i say does not reflect bla bla bla bla alliance point of bla bla bla" welcome to kindergarden, can I hold you hand dear sir? chill alittle thank you hehe you seem to have just read between the lines that wasnt there to read between, poister post was very simple & didnt say anything odd or wrong ?, chill out ? he seems ice cold to me. ------------------------ Purgatori Minmatar Brothers Of Influence Who are you ? _______________________________________ Ill Shutup when CCP remove bookmarks
Darken Two	Posted - 2006.04.08 14:33:00 - [23] Originally by: SinBin Originally by: Darken Two Originally by: Gr1mreaper statistically speaking there is a greater chance of me being a Krulls alt than any body elses alt...... but it just aint so. Finished with my woman cos she wouln't help me with my mind....... I see dead alts LOL your obsession with persh is reaching new heights. Why does Persh get all the fanbois and I get left out. Thats simple man, you have to come online to be involved, or did I just forgot that your an alt of an alts cousins sisters brother ?. -------------------------- Originally by: INZi Originally by: Poister yea thats about right but I was surprised to see kaos go along with the idea. still its old news now here I am, I am kaos dont tell me that I cant make a ironic statement without the "anything i say does not reflect bla bla bla bla alliance point of bla bla bla" welcome to kindergarden, can I hold you hand dear sir? chill alittle thank you hehe you seem to have just read between the lines that wasnt there to read between, poister post was very simple & didnt say anything odd or wrong ?, chill out ? he seems ice cold to me. ------------------------ Purgatori Minmatar Brothers Of Influence Who are you ? OMG I forgot. I do have a fanboi and here he is. And here's a pearl of wisdom for you bud. If I was totally useless, why would GODS keep me around. I'm sure its not for my boyish good looks. Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
INZi	Posted - 2006.04.08 14:33:00 - [24] heheh yeh. guess I'm reading stuff alittle too fast sometimes :D sorry, now lets move along. anyone wanna debate about BOB? :p
madhapee	Posted - 2006.04.08 15:40:00 - [25] Most of the corps in the Northeast have battled for many months. The fight with ATUK was one of the best ever. They have really good pilots and actually we learned a lot from it. We had more numbers they had better quality. It was a slugfest that would only end if one or the would give up. We could not conquer H-PA as it was an npc station and the 24/7 camps got really boring. So I am glad things went as they went. That war could have lasted another two months and I think both sides were bored with it. FE has a lot of senior members and many are from alliances that have fallen before. We know what works and what not. It was a pity some of the guys in SP4NK leave, most of them I have flown side by side with and they are good guys. In the IRON/G Battles we fought alongside [5], we have learned a lot from them and they are great fighters. (Killing a dread together was awesome) So you can whine all you want.The NorthEast is doing fine, we are at war as always, just fun to shoot stuff. :) Lost a bs yesterday to a good fight. Life is good. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Bayroo	Posted - 2006.04.08 16:16:00 - [26] Originally by: Gr1mreaper Persh NAPPED with the five for one reason only.... because FE were losing and he felt we would lose D7 and HW. He originally intended to betray them once FE built some dreads though that has clearly not happened. This is not speculation, it is a fact, persh told the GODS members this. The only other senor FE member who objected at the time was Krulls but for whatever reason changed his mind Maybe some of the new GODS and FE members don't know this or don't believe it which might explain some of the posts. anyway it is the truth, whether u chose to believe it or not I think to be honest, the Corp SpAnk give a new meaning to the word Back Stabber!! Now move along, nothing more to see hear!
Yolan	Posted - 2006.04.08 16:32:00 - [27] Bayroo you have a very short memory, very short indeed. When we left GODS and formed SP4NK it was on good terms and both GODS/F-E and SP4NK had each other set to blue. Whilst we were totally against the Nap with [5] when we initially left we bore F-E/GODS no ill will at all. It would have been all to easy for use to totally strip GODS and a lot of F-E assets when we went as a number of us were directors and had full corp access and access to large portions of the alliance minerals, but we didnt take one thing that did not belong to a SP4NK member. The turning point came when we were attacked by F-E members whilst we were travelling through tribute, of course we took steps to defend ourselves and set F-E to -10, however even at this point we made an exception for GODS and although we had F-E to -10 we kept GODS individually at blue. Then the next day Firekiller jumps into our public channel mouths off at us for shooting F-E even though it was in self defence and GODS then goes hostile to us. So before you guys start shouting that we are backstabbers please check all the facts and remember that you guys drew the first blood!
Darken Two	Posted - 2006.04.08 16:53:00 - [28] Yolan let me get this straight. You left FE. You still were hostile to .5. You knew there would be a lot of .5. in our space helpin us Yet you still chose to travel through tribute. So basically you wanted us to chose between SP4NK and .5. Too bad that most of us have a seen this kind of deviousness before. It doesnt work. I have enjoyed being in the same corp as you guys, but seems SP4NK has got some serious problems. Why are you so interested in GODS and Persh since you dont want to have anything to do with us anymore. Why these random threads about what Persh might or might not have done. Your corpmates are even dumb enough to blame GODS for CDI ganking you in a supposed 1 vs 1. Can you sink any deeper? Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
Shyalud	Posted - 2006.04.08 17:02:00 - [29] Originally by: Gr1mreaper Persh NAPPED with the five for one reason only.... because FE were losing and he felt we would lose D7 and HW. He originally intended to betray them once FE built some dreads though that has clearly not happened. This is not speculation, it is a fact, persh told the GODS members this. The only other senor FE member who objected at the time was Krulls but for whatever reason changed his mind Maybe some of the new GODS and FE members don't know this or don't believe it which might explain some of the posts. anyway it is the truth, whether u chose to believe it or not End yourself, ain't that your corp ideal? CHSN High Council
The End	Posted - 2006.04.08 17:07:00 - [30] Originally by: Gr1mreaper Persh NAPPED with the five for one reason only.... because FE were losing and he felt we would lose D7 and HW. He originally intended to betray them once FE built some dreads though that has clearly not happened. This is not speculation, it is a fact, persh told the GODS members this. The only other senor FE member who objected at the time was Krulls but for whatever reason changed his mind Maybe some of the new GODS and FE members don't know this or don't believe it which might explain some of the posts. anyway it is the truth, whether u chose to believe it or not i was on TS with Krullz and Persh when the desicion was made. It was not for the reason intended as above. You "Spank" people are really getting annoying. Stop whining about F-E and worry about not getting ganked in the game

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