Originally by: Gr1mreaper

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Persh NAPPED with the five for one reason only.... because FE were losing and he felt we would lose D7 and HW. He originally intended to betray them once FE built some dreads though that has clearly not happened.

This is not speculation, it is a fact, persh told the GODS members this. The only other senor FE member who objected at the time was Krulls but for whatever reason changed his mind


Maybe some of the new GODS and FE members don't know this or don't believe it which might explain some of the posts.

anyway it is the truth, whether u chose to believe it or not

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Originally by: Bl4zer

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But, cmon, this is the Eve forums, we don't let facts get in the way of pointless speculation.

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Originally by: Enfoe

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Edited by: Enfoe on 09/04/2006 02:18:48

Originally by: magickangaroo

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they left on principle so before you stand there and slate them you should get a clue.

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orly?

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Originally by: magickangaroo

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tbh im just peeved u guys naped the 5. u were great for rping against each other.

actually no, tbh what really peeved me off was that you northeners and i dont think fe didnt jump on the anti xelas bandwagon when it was annonced they were napin bob. and bob werent even attacking you guys at that point.... just seems i dunno hypocrytical.

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Originally by: Yolan

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Firstly why dont you post with persh instead of Enfoe. Secondly we are no ones fanboi, we not the ones who beg to nap with the someone just to save our asses (not to mention the alliance funds which get used as the F-E leaderships private wallets)

Try bringing it to us in space persh instead of on the forums, trying backing up your arguments with figures. We are pretty happy with the amount of kills we get against F-E considering the size of our corp, do you really want to review your kill ratio against us using your 2000+ alliance. Then please go for it.

You can slag us off all you like but the fact is so far you have miserably failed to deal with us despite what most of your alliance keeping posting.

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Originally by: Yolan

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(not to mention the alliance funds which get used as the F-E leaderships private wallets)

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Originally by: Yolan

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Try bringing it to us in space persh instead of on the forums, trying backing up your arguments with figures.

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Originally by: Yolan

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We are pretty happy with the amount of kills we get against F-E considering the size of our corp, do you really want to review your kill ratio against us using your 2000+ alliance. Then please go for it.

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Originally by: Yolan

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You can slag us off all you like but the fact is so far you have miserably failed to deal with us despite what most of your alliance keeping posting.

Quote:

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As of now your little 3-4 man gangs are too insignificant for us considering doing something about. You do not really effect our alliance in any way. We have accepted you as our pets.

Originally by: Yolan

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Firstly why dont you post with persh instead of Enfoe. Secondly we are no ones fanboi, we not the ones who beg to nap with the someone just to save our asses (not to mention the alliance funds which get used as the F-E leaderships private wallets)

Try bringing it to us in space persh instead of on the forums, trying backing up your arguments with figures. We are pretty happy with the amount of kills we get against F-E considering the size of our corp, do you really want to review your kill ratio against us using your 2000+ alliance. Then please go for it.

You can slag us off all you like but the fact is so far you have miserably failed to deal with us despite what most of your alliance keeping posting.

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Originally by: Blind Fear

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Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.

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Originally by: Enfoe

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edit - disreguard the paragraph above. I checked the numbers off your killboard and you do not have a + kill loss ratio against us. This is amazingly hard to do for a small pvp corp who specializes in ganking(well the special part you got right). Our space is so crowded that you could afk with smartbombs on and kill someone. How a 'pvp corp' like spank can come into our space purely for ganking and still have a - kill/loss ratio is beyond me. Not a great advertisment for your corp. If your corps sole claim to fame is to kill 10 fe battleships in 1.5 months then you should disband tbh.

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Originally by: Ituralde

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some crap

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Originally by: Acwron

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Originally by: Ituralde

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some crap

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Is there some training in JC that all new members go rough for posting bull**** on the forums while having no clue whatsoever?

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Originally by: Ituralde

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I remember the 5 NAP and was in CDI at the time, part of the crowd that was at the time against it. I remember Persh explaining his reasoning to us on TS and while he mentioned the possibility of .5. turning around and backstabbing F-E, he NEVER at any point mentioned backstabbing 5.

I would just point to F-E and its former allies that turned against them and think about how bad an idea it was for F-E to go its own way, independent from the enclosurist standings of the north.

Take a look at the former allies of F-E.

PA and NBSI are dead.

IRON abandoned Deklein.

G disbanded and grabbed TRUST and are now reconsolidating as D2.

RA is getting slapped around, holding onto only Cache where they once held 7 regions.

What is in common with all of these parties? None made a significant commitment to helping F-E fight the 5. A war F-E got into, even by their own war dec post, by jumping onto the bandwagon of the former northern allies. F-E learned the lesson of the errors of standings enclosurism and look where they are now:

Leaders of a northeastern coalition that controls 6 regions

Winning wars against some of the most powerful of the old guard in EVE (GIRONZOR)

Getting powerful enough such that they are competing with BoB in terms of quantities of whining pilots complaining about them.

Tell me all that is not a good reason to turn against useless enclosurist allies.

P.S. I still think F-E could have held D-7 anyways, but its very clear nonetheless that their choice was a better alternative than fighting a useless war for worthless friends.

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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

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Originally by: Ituralde

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I remember the 5 NAP and was in CDI at the time, part of the crowd that was at the time against it. I remember Persh explaining his reasoning to us on TS and while he mentioned the possibility of .5. turning around and backstabbing F-E, he NEVER at any point mentioned backstabbing 5.

I would just point to F-E and its former allies that turned against them and think about how bad an idea it was for F-E to go its own way, independent from the enclosurist standings of the north.

Take a look at the former allies of F-E.

PA and NBSI are dead.

IRON abandoned Deklein.

G disbanded and grabbed TRUST and are now reconsolidating as D2.

RA is getting slapped around, holding onto only Cache where they once held 7 regions.

What is in common with all of these parties? None made a significant commitment to helping F-E fight the 5. A war F-E got into, even by their own war dec post, by jumping onto the bandwagon of the former northern allies. F-E learned the lesson of the errors of standings enclosurism and look where they are now:

Leaders of a northeastern coalition that controls 6 regions

Winning wars against some of the most powerful of the old guard in EVE (GIRONZOR)

Getting powerful enough such that they are competing with BoB in terms of quantities of whining pilots complaining about them.

Tell me all that is not a good reason to turn against useless enclosurist allies.

P.S. I still think F-E could have held D-7 anyways, but its very clear nonetheless that their choice was a better alternative than fighting a useless war for worthless friends.

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I want to be polite and honest: you are not fitting into JF, or atleast u have to take ALOT lessons in proper forum propaganda

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Originally by: Blind Fear

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Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.

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Originally by: Darken Two

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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

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Originally by: Ituralde

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I remember the 5 NAP and was in CDI at the time, part of the crowd that was at the time against it. I remember Persh explaining his reasoning to us on TS and while he mentioned the possibility of .5. turning around and backstabbing F-E, he NEVER at any point mentioned backstabbing 5.

I would just point to F-E and its former allies that turned against them and think about how bad an idea it was for F-E to go its own way, independent from the enclosurist standings of the north.

Take a look at the former allies of F-E.

PA and NBSI are dead.

IRON abandoned Deklein.

G disbanded and grabbed TRUST and are now reconsolidating as D2.

RA is getting slapped around, holding onto only Cache where they once held 7 regions.

What is in common with all of these parties? None made a significant commitment to helping F-E fight the 5. A war F-E got into, even by their own war dec post, by jumping onto the bandwagon of the former northern allies. F-E learned the lesson of the errors of standings enclosurism and look where they are now:

Leaders of a northeastern coalition that controls 6 regions

Winning wars against some of the most powerful of the old guard in EVE (GIRONZOR)

Getting powerful enough such that they are competing with BoB in terms of quantities of whining pilots complaining about them.

Tell me all that is not a good reason to turn against useless enclosurist allies.

P.S. I still think F-E could have held D-7 anyways, but its very clear nonetheless that their choice was a better alternative than fighting a useless war for worthless friends.

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I want to be polite and honest: you are not fitting into JF, or atleast u have to take ALOT lessons in proper forum propaganda

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He said Persh did the right thing for FE. What are you saying? Or are you just dissin him cos he's in JF?

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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

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Originally by: Darken Two

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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse

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Originally by: Ituralde

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I remember the 5 NAP and was in CDI at the time, part of the crowd that was at the time against it. I remember Persh explaining his reasoning to us on TS and while he mentioned the possibility of .5. turning around and backstabbing F-E, he NEVER at any point mentioned backstabbing 5.

I would just point to F-E and its former allies that turned against them and think about how bad an idea it was for F-E to go its own way, independent from the enclosurist standings of the north.

Take a look at the former allies of F-E.

PA and NBSI are dead.

IRON abandoned Deklein.

G disbanded and grabbed TRUST and are now reconsolidating as D2.

RA is getting slapped around, holding onto only Cache where they once held 7 regions.

What is in common with all of these parties? None made a significant commitment to helping F-E fight the 5. A war F-E got into, even by their own war dec post, by jumping onto the bandwagon of the former northern allies. F-E learned the lesson of the errors of standings enclosurism and look where they are now:

Leaders of a northeastern coalition that controls 6 regions

Winning wars against some of the most powerful of the old guard in EVE (GIRONZOR)

Getting powerful enough such that they are competing with BoB in terms of quantities of whining pilots complaining about them.

Tell me all that is not a good reason to turn against useless enclosurist allies.

P.S. I still think F-E could have held D-7 anyways, but its very clear nonetheless that their choice was a better alternative than fighting a useless war for worthless friends.

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I want to be polite and honest: you are not fitting into JF, or atleast u have to take ALOT lessons in proper forum propaganda

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He said Persh did the right thing for FE. What are you saying? Or are you just dissin him cos he's in JF?

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Hes not doing it the JF way, just normal bullying like you. still waiting for ur answer on the other thread though.

waiting...

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Originally by: Blind Fear

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Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.

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