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Gr1mreaper
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Posted - 2006.04.08 12:17:00 -
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Persh NAPPED with the five for one reason only.... because FE were losing and he felt we would lose D7 and HW. He originally intended to betray them once FE built some dreads though that has clearly not happened.
This is not speculation, it is a fact, persh told the GODS members this. The only other senor FE member who objected at the time was Krulls but for whatever reason changed his mind
Maybe some of the new GODS and FE members don't know this or don't believe it which might explain some of the posts.
anyway it is the truth, whether u chose to believe it or not
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Antoinette Civari
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Posted - 2006.04.08 12:29:00 -
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Edited by: Antoinette Civari on 08/04/2006 12:29:33
give evidence or go away and end yourself :)
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2006.04.08 12:34:00 -
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OHNOES THE SKY IS FALLING !!!!!
WE ARE TEH BACKSTBZORRS !!!!
PERSH IS EBIL !!!!
Seriously nice try SP4NK dudes. Better luck next time.
Perhaps next time you shouldn't cut and paste the exact same sentence your main posted in another thread.
 Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Purgatori
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Posted - 2006.04.08 12:35:00 -
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Yeh build some dreads....as if there that usefull 
Maybe change your post to carriers. or fleet of IBIS
Or... dont post at all. probably the better option 
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Gr1mreaper
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Posted - 2006.04.08 12:36:00 -
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Darken.
This really shows how little u log in dude if you think Curse is my main
Lol
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slothe
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Posted - 2006.04.08 12:37:00 -
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Edited by: slothe on 08/04/2006 12:38:20
im sure it probably was discussed along with other options.. but once the nap with 5 kicked in and they showed they were committed to us and our previous allies clearly werent im sure this consideration was never further discussed.
but hey who cares? only u it seems. im sure people who left f-e after the nap now regret it.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2006.04.08 12:38:00 -
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Edited by: Darken Two on 08/04/2006 12:41:26
Originally by: Gr1mreaper
Darken.
This really shows how little u log in dude if you think Curse is my main
Lol
Oh yea? Then why dont you use your main. Plus I never said you were Cursed. You just said it yourself.
Stop making a fool out of yourself.
On a sidenote, this tidbit you shared, has no purpose. I see it achieving nothing. So I dont see why an alt was needed at all.
Ps. Even if we had such a thought, all such ideas were banished as soon as we saw how committed .5. were as allies. I have honestly never seen or had as good allies as they have been. Ofcourse KAOS has much <3 as well.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Gr1mreaper
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Posted - 2006.04.08 12:41:00 -
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statistically speaking there is a greater chance of me being a Krulls alt than any body elses alt...... but it just aint so.
Finished with my woman cos she wouln't help me with my mind.......
I see dead alts
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2006.04.08 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Gr1mreaper
statistically speaking there is a greater chance of me being a Krulls alt than any body elses alt...... but it just aint so.
Finished with my woman cos she wouln't help me with my mind.......
I see dead alts
LOL your obsession with persh is reaching new heights.
Why does Persh get all the fanbois and I get left out.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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INZi
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Posted - 2006.04.08 12:44:00 -
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FE, YOUR ALL GONNA BURN IN HELL!
grim, wanna pillow fight? you look hot!
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2006.04.08 12:44:00 -
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Its a bit silly to say that Pershaphanie did anything at all for only one reason. Unless you are that person how do you know what truly went on inside their mind? Do you have a brain-scanner and mind-reading device maybe? And sensibly speaking any leader needs contingencies against future uncertainty - I'd never follow anyone I wasn't pretty sure couldn't pull the fat out of the fire with clever politics and cunning intrigues myself.
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Gr1mreaper
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Posted - 2006.04.08 12:51:00 -
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Whatever people have said about Firekiller and the NAP I do not think he would approve of any GODS member dishonouring the CORP and the established EVE tradition of 1 v 1 combat between Pilots.
It's like cheating in a Dual.
VICTORY WITHOUT INTEGRITY IS LOSS
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Gr1mreaper
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Posted - 2006.04.08 12:53:00 -
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Oh i FORGOT IT WAS A CDI MEMBER which explains it
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Purgatori
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Posted - 2006.04.08 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Gr1mreaper
Oh i FORGOT IT WAS A CDI MEMBER which explains it
Zzzz zz Sorry did you say some thing?
Prove it or shove it 
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Gr1mreaper
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Posted - 2006.04.08 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: Purgatori
Originally by: Gr1mreaper
Oh i FORGOT IT WAS A CDI MEMBER which explains it
Zzzz zz Sorry did you say some thing?
Prove it or shove it
Thats just silly dude, you have obviously lost the argument and have nothing bar diatribe to add
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Purgatori
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Posted - 2006.04.08 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Gr1mreaper
Originally by: Purgatori
Originally by: Gr1mreaper
Oh i FORGOT IT WAS A CDI MEMBER which explains it
Zzzz zz Sorry did you say some thing?
Prove it or shove it
Thats just silly dude, you have obviously lost the argument and have nothing bar diatribe to add
What argument 
What i added to this fantastic post of your is that in a court of law if you wish to make a judgment like you have made you need evidence ? so where is yours ?
If you have none . Then its false as cannot be proven .
Im not arguing but its crystal clear that if you cannot show facts no one will belive you. i dont care if your telling the truth but in EVE. We all know what people make up so only way to show it is with evidence
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Poister
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Posted - 2006.04.08 13:12:00 -
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yea thats about right but I was surprised to see kaos go along with the idea.
still its old news now
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Altar Mei
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Posted - 2006.04.08 13:48:00 -
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I respect the fact that spank disagreed and chose to leave because of that but why do some of your members need to bring it down to a personel lvl when it's a politcal issue? ROA disagreed as well but they've handled themselves with dignity. Sometimes what the majority of people want in an alliance isn't what they need.
This has been hashed to death so I don't think I need to go into detail but what kept many of us around after Persh's decision was the appearance of so many hostile friendlies right after it was announced. It was also pretty clear that at the time FE did not have the capital fleet to compete with .5.(ATUK), the end result would have been a ridiculously long campaign of us blobbing d7 with no real ability to remove a well defended POS. (This is a bit speculative on my part as I'm not privy to leadership info)
Throughing yourself on the sword for lofty idealism is honorable, but it also makes you dead. Besides looks like we'll be shooting eachother soon enough. 1 VS 1 should be honored but there's always a few bad eggs. Good luck on your vendetta.
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Vishnej
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Posted - 2006.04.08 13:58:00 -
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This is more for the neutrals than the OP:
Yes, backstabbing was discussed as a viable option, to be decided later down the road. Many of us really hated Five for their tactics - sniping, widespread spying, impeccable covops scouting, mandatory smack, unassailable NPC stations, the use of logging as a tactic... They weren't fun to fight. They didn't play the game the same way as us, there were no cases in thousands of engagements where the fight ended with a quarter of one side left alive saying "Good fight" to the pods. And fight them we did, to great lengths.
Our Northern allies(who we saw as the reason we had Five to deal with) just weren't helping - and we had just developed an enemy in the south, Morsus Mihi + SNU. Even so, many of the strong corps in F-E had joined specifically because we fought the South, coming from dead alliances who had attempted the same and failed.
The mere idea of backstabbing a few months down the line once we'd amended our complete impotence in POS warfare was something that could get F-E through it together, at a time when alliance leaders weren't talking to each other, certain members were spreading rumors actively trying to break us up, one of our biggest PvP corps had left and others were considering it (though almost all the CEOs had been consulted, their membership wasn't convinced), and we were not only despirited and often broke, but faced with both refinery stations becoming battlefields in a trench warfare situation.
It was also a viable option - but one that was quashed once we flew a bit with Five on friendly terms and we saw PA/NBSI's response. As for Krullz - a lot of the flaming was coming from CDI members, and he wasn't an exception. In the end though, he decided in his words "I love F-E more than I hate Five." Two corps, many of the GODs members, and many indivuals decided otherwise.
Integrity? Where's the integrity in hatred for someone in a game? Hatred deep enough that you'll stab your friends in the back when they decide that they don't hate as much as you do? We were recieving help from maybe 1% of PA and none of NBSI in H-PA - integrity would be backing someone up against a common enemy.
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Vishnej
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Posted - 2006.04.08 14:02:00 -
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As for betraying a 1vs1 - I think 90% of F-E disapproves of that, including me.
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INZi
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Posted - 2006.04.08 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Poister
yea thats about right but I was surprised to see kaos go along with the idea.
still its old news now
here I am, I am kaos
dont tell me that I cant make a ironic statement without the "anything i say does not reflect bla bla bla bla alliance point of bla bla bla"
welcome to kindergarden, can I hold you hand dear sir?
chill alittle thank you
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SinBin
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Posted - 2006.04.08 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Gr1mreaper
statistically speaking there is a greater chance of me being a Krulls alt than any body elses alt...... but it just aint so.
Finished with my woman cos she wouln't help me with my mind.......
I see dead alts
LOL your obsession with persh is reaching new heights.
Why does Persh get all the fanbois and I get left out.
Thats simple man, you have to come online to be involved, or did I just forgot that your an alt of an alts cousins sisters brother ?.
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Originally by: INZi
Originally by: Poister
yea thats about right but I was surprised to see kaos go along with the idea.
still its old news now
here I am, I am kaos
dont tell me that I cant make a ironic statement without the "anything i say does not reflect bla bla bla bla alliance point of bla bla bla"
welcome to kindergarden, can I hold you hand dear sir?
chill alittle thank you
hehe you seem to have just read between the lines that wasnt there to read between, poister post was very simple & didnt say anything odd or wrong ?, chill out ? he seems ice cold to me.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2006.04.08 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: SinBin
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Gr1mreaper
statistically speaking there is a greater chance of me being a Krulls alt than any body elses alt...... but it just aint so.
Finished with my woman cos she wouln't help me with my mind.......
I see dead alts
LOL your obsession with persh is reaching new heights.
Why does Persh get all the fanbois and I get left out.
Thats simple man, you have to come online to be involved, or did I just forgot that your an alt of an alts cousins sisters brother ?.
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Originally by: INZi
Originally by: Poister
yea thats about right but I was surprised to see kaos go along with the idea.
still its old news now
here I am, I am kaos
dont tell me that I cant make a ironic statement without the "anything i say does not reflect bla bla bla bla alliance point of bla bla bla"
welcome to kindergarden, can I hold you hand dear sir?
chill alittle thank you
hehe you seem to have just read between the lines that wasnt there to read between, poister post was very simple & didnt say anything odd or wrong ?, chill out ? he seems ice cold to me.
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Purgatori
Minmatar
Brothers Of Influence
Who are you ?
OMG I forgot. I do have a fanboi and here he is.
And here's a pearl of wisdom for you bud. If I was totally useless, why would GODS keep me around. I'm sure its not for my boyish good looks.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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INZi
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Posted - 2006.04.08 14:33:00 -
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heheh yeh. guess I'm reading stuff alittle too fast sometimes :D
sorry, now lets move along. anyone wanna debate about BOB? :p
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madhapee
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Posted - 2006.04.08 15:40:00 -
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Most of the corps in the Northeast have battled for many months. The fight with ATUK was one of the best ever. They have really good pilots and actually we learned a lot from it.
We had more numbers they had better quality. It was a slugfest that would only end if one or the would give up. We could not conquer H-PA as it was an npc station and the 24/7 camps got really boring.
So I am glad things went as they went. That war could have lasted another two months and I think both sides were bored with it.
FE has a lot of senior members and many are from alliances that have fallen before. We know what works and what not.
It was a pity some of the guys in SP4NK leave, most of them I have flown side by side with and they are good guys.
In the IRON/G Battles we fought alongside [5], we have learned a lot from them and they are great fighters. (Killing a dread together was awesome)
So you can whine all you want.The NorthEast is doing fine, we are at war as always, just fun to shoot stuff. :)
Lost a bs yesterday to a good fight. Life is good.
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Bayroo
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Posted - 2006.04.08 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Gr1mreaper
Persh NAPPED with the five for one reason only.... because FE were losing and he felt we would lose D7 and HW. He originally intended to betray them once FE built some dreads though that has clearly not happened.
This is not speculation, it is a fact, persh told the GODS members this. The only other senor FE member who objected at the time was Krulls but for whatever reason changed his mind
Maybe some of the new GODS and FE members don't know this or don't believe it which might explain some of the posts.
anyway it is the truth, whether u chose to believe it or not
I think to be honest, the Corp SpAnk give a new meaning to the word Back Stabber!!
Now move along, nothing more to see hear!
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Yolan
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Posted - 2006.04.08 16:32:00 -
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Bayroo you have a very short memory, very short indeed.
When we left GODS and formed SP4NK it was on good terms and both GODS/F-E and SP4NK had each other set to blue. Whilst we were totally against the Nap with [5] when we initially left we bore F-E/GODS no ill will at all. It would have been all to easy for use to totally strip GODS and a lot of F-E assets when we went as a number of us were directors and had full corp access and access to large portions of the alliance minerals, but we didnt take one thing that did not belong to a SP4NK member.
The turning point came when we were attacked by F-E members whilst we were travelling through tribute, of course we took steps to defend ourselves and set F-E to -10, however even at this point we made an exception for GODS and although we had F-E to -10 we kept GODS individually at blue.
Then the next day Firekiller jumps into our public channel mouths off at us for shooting F-E even though it was in self defence and GODS then goes hostile to us.
So before you guys start shouting that we are backstabbers please check all the facts and remember that you guys drew the first blood!
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2006.04.08 16:53:00 -
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Yolan let me get this straight.
You left FE.
You still were hostile to .5.
You knew there would be a lot of .5. in our space helpin us
Yet you still chose to travel through tribute.
So basically you wanted us to chose between SP4NK and .5.
Too bad that most of us have a seen this kind of deviousness before. It doesnt work.
I have enjoyed being in the same corp as you guys, but seems SP4NK has got some serious problems. Why are you so interested in GODS and Persh since you dont want to have anything to do with us anymore. Why these random threads about what Persh might or might not have done. Your corpmates are even dumb enough to blame GODS for CDI ganking you in a supposed 1 vs 1.
Can you sink any deeper?
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Shyalud
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Posted - 2006.04.08 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Gr1mreaper
Persh NAPPED with the five for one reason only.... because FE were losing and he felt we would lose D7 and HW. He originally intended to betray them once FE built some dreads though that has clearly not happened.
This is not speculation, it is a fact, persh told the GODS members this. The only other senor FE member who objected at the time was Krulls but for whatever reason changed his mind
Maybe some of the new GODS and FE members don't know this or don't believe it which might explain some of the posts.
anyway it is the truth, whether u chose to believe it or not
End yourself, ain't that your corp ideal?
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Posted - 2006.04.08 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Gr1mreaper
Persh NAPPED with the five for one reason only.... because FE were losing and he felt we would lose D7 and HW. He originally intended to betray them once FE built some dreads though that has clearly not happened.
This is not speculation, it is a fact, persh told the GODS members this. The only other senor FE member who objected at the time was Krulls but for whatever reason changed his mind
Maybe some of the new GODS and FE members don't know this or don't believe it which might explain some of the posts.
anyway it is the truth, whether u chose to believe it or not
i was on TS with Krullz and Persh when the desicion was made.
It was not for the reason intended as above.
You "Spank" people are really getting annoying. Stop whining about F-E and worry about not getting ganked in the game
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Enfoe
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Posted - 2006.04.08 17:16:00 -
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Edited by: Enfoe on 08/04/2006 17:21:59
All I've got to say is;
Senseless Pets 4re Not Klever
And
Slow Peon's 4re in Need of Knowledge
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magickangaroo
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Posted - 2006.04.08 17:16:00 -
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gr1mreaper.
i got a few friends in spank, there good guys. i now worry for their sanity having such an illeterate cap using monkey as yourself in corp chat must give them great headaches.
i myself was not fond of the fe-5 alliance, i think for rp sake and history sake they were good at the other end of each others barrels. but dude..... no one cares anymore. go away.
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.04.08 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Gr1mreaper
Oh i FORGOT IT WAS A CDI MEMBER which explains it
IS THAT SO?!?!
HOW COME WE WRITE IN CAPITAL LETTERS?.
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Dahin
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Posted - 2006.04.08 21:04:00 -
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I am not moved. Apology refused.
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pandore
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Posted - 2006.04.08 23:01:00 -
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me loves Persh... Isnt because it didnt please you sp4nk members that it wasnt good and fun for all of us. I enjoy my time with 5 members and persh is a leader we can count on. He has my respect for the person he is. So, seriously, Gr1m, i know you guys are still upset about the nap but get over it and see you on the battlefield.
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Bayroo
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Posted - 2006.04.08 23:27:00 -
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Ya maybe I did do a little slagging off, big deal. Its different to killing FE members. I also have what I have from hard work, I never took anything from corp in the way of items, ships etc. And I don't intend to.
You are just trying to dig **** up from the past because this is all you and your corp have left.
As far as people buying me to stay in corp, I took the role of Director as GODS was left with no directors in EU tz, what should I have done??? Walked out too??? You never gave the NAP with .5 a go, you thought that G and IRON would ride in and save the day, well that didn't happen.
I have nothing more to say on this matter. So move along now, nothing more to see. 
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WETRAIN
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Posted - 2006.04.08 23:40:00 -
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just lol
and again lol at the sig .. bayroo u nutcraker
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Nobues
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Posted - 2006.04.08 23:42:00 -
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just for everyone who doesnt know what is going on,
Stupid People Always Need Killing = spank, are EX FE who left when we naped the The Five, for reasons only they know.
They live up to there name STUPID PEOPLE!, and they always need killing.
For some odd reason they think we, FE did something worng, but I want to say this.
NBSI = DEAD
PA = DEAD
G = DEAD
IRON = DEAD
TRUST = DEAD
Now some of them we had nothing to do with, but all were hostile to FE, now ALL DEAD.
I dont know about anyone els but I dont see anything we did worng? Almost every alliance that was hostile to us is now dead.
How with the other matter of spank comming to FE space and "killing us", they only kills you can get are the ones when there in belts mining, you can't honor 1v1's you run, (soon it done more than once), you do not fight anyone that has "GUNS" on there ship. PROVEN with your kill mails.
So please, spank guys, I think I say this for ALL OF EVE!, stop posting CRAP like this on EVE-ONLINE, and leave the forums along.
Request lock.
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2006.04.08 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: Nobues
just for everyone who doesnt know what is going on,
Stupid People Always Need Killing = spank, are EX FE who left when we naped the The Five, for reasons only they know.
They live up to there name STUPID PEOPLE!, and they always need killing.
For some odd reason they think we, FE did something worng, but I want to say this.
NBSI = DEAD
PA = DEAD
G = DEAD
IRON = DEAD
TRUST = DEAD
Now some of them we had nothing to do with, but all were hostile to FE, now ALL DEAD.
I dont know about anyone els but I dont see anything we did worng? Almost every alliance that was hostile to us is now dead.
How with the other matter of spank comming to FE space and "killing us", they only kills you can get are the ones when there in belts mining, you can't honor 1v1's you run, (soon it done more than once), you do not fight anyone that has "GUNS" on there ship. PROVEN with your kill mails.
So please, spank guys, I think I say this for ALL OF EVE!, stop posting CRAP like this on EVE-ONLINE, and leave the forums along.
Request lock.
Well I can't speak for sp4nk but making friends with The Five is a pretty good reason if you ask me 
I've been brainwashed by darth though
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Gitt
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Posted - 2006.04.09 00:25:00 -
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Edited by: Gitt on 09/04/2006 00:26:32
Hmmm why do the same ppl type the same crap over and over again..
I dont type often but some of you lot need to find a girlfriend 
or stop smoking that Jovian skunk weed for a while
I aint an alt honest guv
Gitt
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Gr1mreaper
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Posted - 2006.04.09 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: WETRAIN
just lol
and again lol at the sig .. bayroo u nutcraker
Respect Wetrain - No body can command a fleet quite so well after 8 gazillion pints of beer
VICTORY WITHOUT INTEGRITY IS LOSS
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Gr1mreaper
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Posted - 2006.04.09 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Nobues
just for everyone who doesnt know what is going on,
Stupid People Always Need Killing = spank, are EX FE who left when we naped the The Five, for reasons only they know.
They live up to there name STUPID PEOPLE!, and they always need killing.
For some odd reason they think we, FE did something worng, but I want to say this.
NBSI = DEAD
PA = DEAD
G = DEAD
IRON = DEAD
TRUST = DEAD
Now some of them we had nothing to do with, but all were hostile to FE, now ALL DEAD.
I dont know about anyone els but I dont see anything we did worng? Almost every alliance that was hostile to us is now dead.
How with the other matter of spank comming to FE space and "killing us", they only kills you can get are the ones when there in belts mining, you can't honor 1v1's you run, (soon it done more than once), you do not fight anyone that has "GUNS" on there ship. PROVEN with your kill mails.
So please, spank guys, I think I say this for ALL OF EVE!, stop posting CRAP like this on EVE-ONLINE, and leave the forums along.
Request lock.
so i guess thats like saying if france had joined with adolf ****** they would have been right since they didn't get killed
ALL EVIL NEEDS TO PROSPER IS THAT GOOD MEN DO NOTHING
VICTORY WITHOUT INTEGRITY IS LOSS
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Gr1mreaper
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Posted - 2006.04.09 00:33:00 -
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OH YES I HAVE AN IDEA.... FOLLOWING THE fe EXAMPLE LETS ALL JOIN bob THEN WE CAN LIVE IN PEACE AND MINE VELD
Veld for the win
VICTORY WITHOUT INTEGRITY IS LOSS
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WETRAIN
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Posted - 2006.04.09 00:39:00 -
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Gr1m ... and the rest of the bunch contact me ig i`m shure we can work something out about ur future
and i`m sober btw
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I was once called unforg1ven
I am Unfo i just have a different name and mind now .. same habbits
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Gitt
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Posted - 2006.04.09 00:50:00 -
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Edited by: Gitt on 09/04/2006 00:53:06
Edited by: Gitt on 09/04/2006 00:50:51
Originally by: WETRAIN
just lol
and again lol at the sig .. bayroo u nutcraker
LoL you drunken old goat herder
twas fun working with you
Gitt
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.04.09 00:53:00 -
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"so i guess thats like saying if france had joined with adolf ****** they would have been right since they didn't get killed"
Well, this thread is done, stick a fork in it :s
(on a sidenote, nothing really unhonourable in joining the enemy if it's to buy you time to evenually defeat them you wouldn't get otherwise. And if they actually turn out to be a good ally and better than most, then guess no real point in wailing about plans being changed and betrayal plans getting cancelled. EVE is different universe and it hadly has obvious 'good' and 'bad' side, so RL analogies seriously ftl)
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WETRAIN
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Posted - 2006.04.09 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine
"so i guess thats like saying if france had joined with adolf ****** they would have been right since they didn't get killed"
Well, this thread is done, stick a fork in it :s
(on a sidenote, nothing really unhonourable in joining the enemy if it's to buy you time to evenually defeat them you wouldn't get otherwise. And if they actually turn out to be a good ally and better than most, then guess no real point in wailing about plans being changed and betrayal plans getting cancelled. EVE is different universe and it hadly has obvious 'good' and 'bad' side, so RL analogies seriously ftl)
ok , no comment ... just 2 questions
are you a female? if yes
will you marry me ? plz
i love the way you think
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-When People are Ready . . . The Master Will Come -
I was once called unforg1ven
I am Unfo i just have a different name and mind now .. same habbits
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Gr1mreaper
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Posted - 2006.04.09 00:58:00 -
[48]
Originally by: j0sephine
"so i guess thats like saying if france had joined with adolf ****** they would have been right since they didn't get killed"
Well, this thread is done, stick a fork in it :s
(on a sidenote, nothing really unhonourable in joining the enemy if it's to buy you time to evenually defeat them you wouldn't get otherwise. And if they actually turn out to be a good ally and better than most, then guess no real point in wailing about plans being changed and betrayal plans getting cancelled. EVE is different universe and it hadly has obvious 'good' and 'bad' side, so RL analogies seriously ftl)
Do you like Goats?
VICTORY WITHOUT INTEGRITY IS LOSS
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.04.09 01:02:00 -
[49]
... err
wet: think i have to decline on the grounds of being dbp property *o.o*
grim: same answer, i guess :s
* hides
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Gitt
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Posted - 2006.04.09 01:09:00 -
[50]
You might mock and take the **** out of us BUT we kill lots and you know it
most if not all SP4NK are old players..
I've been around longer than most peeps,I seen it done it read the book got the tee-shirt(buy them in the shops now) and ate the pie. them that know me know i will stand and fight, I dont give a toss!
I dont post on forums often cos most ppl on them talk a load of bollox
Gitt
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The Cursed
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Posted - 2006.04.09 01:11:00 -
[51]
Ok, So everyone knows we dont like FE and that FE are miners and cannon fodder for 5. We make a post stating that CDI are a bunch of newbs who cant fight 1vs1. I guess they have handycap or something and 1=2 in there eyes. Or maybe they cant count. Well i guess they can count one frieghter getting blown up but back to the point at hand. We leave Fe gods shots at us we shot back Fire comes to us and begs us to come back to the corp and we say leave FE or unnap 5 and he doesnt. So Gods becomes -10. I show up in local and Krullz say "hi how ya doing you drunk reject". Wonder why we hate Fe so much.
GODS Is Dead!! Beer em Good!!!!!!!
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2006.04.09 01:28:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Gr1mreaper
OH YES I HAVE AN IDEA.... FOLLOWING THE fe EXAMPLE LETS ALL JOIN bob THEN WE CAN LIVE IN PEACE AND MINE VELD
Veld for the win
Err... what on earth makes you think you can even daydream about joining BoB let alone make try make a joke about it?
You are far too unskilled at forum warfare to even be considered
Eve Blacklight Style
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Gitt
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Posted - 2006.04.09 01:34:00 -
[53]
We dont need to join BoB to have fun?
Gitt
I need a sig 
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The Cursed
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Posted - 2006.04.09 01:34:00 -
[54]
Yes grim you must have atleast level 5 of forum whoring trained to be in BOB.
GODS Is Dead!! Beer em Good!!!!!!!
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Rajon Kelper
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Posted - 2006.04.09 01:43:00 -
[55]
Sp4nk is a group of ex-somebodies who are now petty gankers who sit on empire <-> 0.0 gates popping haulers.
soooo.... Whats the point of this thread?
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"The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving." |
Eskiban Vlasic
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Posted - 2006.04.09 01:48:00 -
[56]
everyone's gotta be good at something
- Vlasic of TW Fame
The Suicidal Newb
F.R.E.E. Explorer |
Gitt
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Posted - 2006.04.09 01:53:00 -
[57]
this thread is over
you ppl better get used to us cos were gonna be a pain in the arse!
and i dont give a !!
just keep an eye on our killboards
Gitt
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magickangaroo
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Posted - 2006.04.09 02:05:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Gitt
We dont need to join BoB to have fun?
Gitt
I need a sig
Hush ex bob boy :D
Originally by: Rajon Kelper
Sp4nk is a group of ex-somebodies who are now petty gankers who sit on empire <-> 0.0 gates popping haulers.
soooo.... Whats the point of this thread?
tbh mate u kill what u kill. they left on principle so before you stand there and slate them you should get a clue. i wouldnt call a reasonable sized group of people who chose to leave your alliance cos they didnt agrea on what u were doing ex somebodies, cos if it wernt for that youd still be happy to have them as blue.
Originally by: Gr1mreaper
OH YES I HAVE AN IDEA.... FOLLOWING THE fe EXAMPLE LETS ALL JOIN bob THEN WE CAN LIVE IN PEACE AND MINE VELD
you wouldnt get bob, fe havent joined bob, wtf are u talking about? do even you know? ur just lookin like a complete idiot now.
if u had half a clue ud realise bob reset standings today/yesterday ...
Originally by: Gr1mreaper
so i guess thats like saying if france had joined with adolf ****** they would have been right since they didn't get killed
ALL EVIL NEEDS TO PROSPER IS THAT GOOD MEN DO NOTHING
dude, first of its a game, second off its a game, third off you broke the otherwise unwriten rule. you have to stop spouting this **** cos ur bringing up adolf ******....
(GAL11) Brigadier General yay |
Gitt
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Posted - 2006.04.09 02:16:00 -
[59]
theres to many primadonnas on these forums
Gitt
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Enfoe
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Posted - 2006.04.09 02:18:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Enfoe on 09/04/2006 02:18:48
Originally by: magickangaroo
they left on principle so before you stand there and slate them you should get a clue.
orly?
riker speaking to bob:
Originally by: riker
and if soo can i have + standings so i can also shoot .5. and f-e along side of you?? would almost pay good isk to sit in d7 and watch persh /krullz / natph's empire burn down. LaughingTwisted EvilTwisted Evil
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Gitt
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Posted - 2006.04.09 02:27:00 -
[61]
sp4nk are gonna do what we do best ..it seems we gotta **** ppl off in forums just to keep you prats happy
see you lot in space 
Gitt
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The Cursed
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Posted - 2006.04.09 02:49:00 -
[62]
Why pay money to see it when you can hear about everyday on ts. I dont know what riker was thinking.
GODS Is Dead!! Beer em Good!!!!!!!
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The Cursed
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Posted - 2006.04.09 02:50:00 -
[63]
BTW Gitt STF u drunk old bastard :}
GODS Is Dead!! Beer em Good!!!!!!!
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Gitt
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Posted - 2006.04.09 03:51:00 -
[64]
I'm just a Gitt doing his job and taking no crap from no ****
i dont give a fk who you think you are!
Gitt
I need a sig
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Roule
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Posted - 2006.04.09 04:22:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Gr1mreaper
Persh NAPPED with the five for one reason only.... because FE were losing and he felt we would lose D7 and HW. He originally intended to betray them once FE built some dreads though that has clearly not happened.
This is not speculation, it is a fact, persh told the GODS members this. The only other senor FE member who objected at the time was Krulls but for whatever reason changed his mind
Maybe some of the new GODS and FE members don't know this or don't believe it which might explain some of the posts.
anyway it is the truth, whether u chose to believe it or not
Well at least its not a shall i say it B O B thread, but hey you are who?
If you wanna get the attention of that sexy red head that is persh then just ask her out and dont come to the forums with no valid point, no evidence and with a subject that would have stood only a slight chance of a ripple in the water a few months ago
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WETRAIN
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Posted - 2006.04.09 05:09:00 -
[66]
ok ... me > sp4nk > fe ...i win
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-When People are Ready . . . The Master Will Come -
I was once called unforg1ven
I am Unfo i just have a different name and mind now .. same habbits
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Neurosis
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Posted - 2006.04.09 05:18:00 -
[67]
Spank allied with G/Iron, then come to tribute and attack F-E members, GODS set them -10 after making them fully aware it was comming, what was farscape saying about "deception 4tl" not to mention nobody really gives a flying **** what you do you're inconsequential, get over yourselves.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2006.04.09 07:54:00 -
[68]
Am I the only one greatly depressed to learn that Persh is a guy, given "her" recent thread about giving up her thong?
Originally by: Bl4zer
But, cmon, this is the Eve forums, we don't let facts get in the way of pointless speculation.
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magickangaroo
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Posted - 2006.04.09 09:05:00 -
[69]
Edited by: magickangaroo on 09/04/2006 09:09:30
Originally by: Enfoe
Edited by: Enfoe on 09/04/2006 02:18:48
Originally by: magickangaroo
they left on principle so before you stand there and slate them you should get a clue.
orly?
YA RLY
tbh im just peeved u guys naped the 5. u were great for rping against each other.
actually no, tbh what really peeved me off was that you northeners and i dont think fe didnt jump on the anti xelas bandwagon when it was annonced they were napin bob. and bob werent even attacking you guys at that point.... just seems i dunno hypocrytical.
(GAL11) Brigadier General yay |
Enfoe
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Posted - 2006.04.09 09:28:00 -
[70]
Originally by: magickangaroo
tbh im just peeved u guys naped the 5. u were great for rping against each other.
actually no, tbh what really peeved me off was that you northeners and i dont think fe didnt jump on the anti xelas bandwagon when it was annonced they were napin bob. and bob werent even attacking you guys at that point.... just seems i dunno hypocrytical.
Ive openly admitted that I have no idea if xelas was really napped with bob or not. Nor do I care. The fact is that we had bad history with cochise and he needed to go. Cochise played dirty politics with us when we were an upstart alliance (hi fowlplay. bawk!), he forced our alliance to do many things we did not want to do. Not to mention a few months previous he had kicked gods/cdi out of pa. Combind those things with us running out of targets and it = war.
As far as everyone second guessing every decision FE has made. Well TFB. Make your own alliance and then you can make up the rules. Untill then I dont care. Congrats to spank for being loyal pets/fanboi's.
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Yolan
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Posted - 2006.04.09 09:52:00 -
[71]
Firstly why dont you post with persh instead of Enfoe. Secondly we are no ones fanboi, we not the ones who beg to nap with the someone just to save our asses (not to mention the alliance funds which get used as the F-E leaderships private wallets)
Try bringing it to us in space persh instead of on the forums, trying backing up your arguments with figures. We are pretty happy with the amount of kills we get against F-E considering the size of our corp, do you really want to review your kill ratio against us using your 2000+ alliance. Then please go for it.
You can slag us off all you like but the fact is so far you have miserably failed to deal with us despite what most of your alliance keeping posting.
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WETRAIN
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Posted - 2006.04.09 09:55:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Yolan
Firstly why dont you post with persh instead of Enfoe. Secondly we are no ones fanboi, we not the ones who beg to nap with the someone just to save our asses (not to mention the alliance funds which get used as the F-E leaderships private wallets)
Try bringing it to us in space persh instead of on the forums, trying backing up your arguments with figures. We are pretty happy with the amount of kills we get against F-E considering the size of our corp, do you really want to review your kill ratio against us using your 2000+ alliance. Then please go for it.
You can slag us off all you like but the fact is so far you have miserably failed to deal with us despite what most of your alliance keeping posting.
Yolan is the father of my sexy char .. thus hes right ...
miss you alot Yolan 
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-When People are Ready . . . The Master Will Come -
I was once called unforg1ven
I am Unfo i just have a different name and mind now .. same habbits
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Yolan
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Posted - 2006.04.09 09:59:00 -
[73]
Dont worry unfo, I got your a whole yard full of virginal goats just ready for your return
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Purgatori
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Posted - 2006.04.09 10:03:00 -
[74]
Lets all pretend im a mod ok!
*CLICK*
Locked
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Enfoe
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Posted - 2006.04.09 10:41:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Enfoe on 09/04/2006 10:42:40
Originally by: Yolan
(not to mention the alliance funds which get used as the F-E leaderships private wallets)
Not that it is any of your business but I dont even have access to alliance funds in fact the opposite is true, I spend at least 50% of my personal isk for alliance stuff. But thanks for spreading random untrue rumors about me. And yes, you are a fanboi.
Originally by: Yolan
Try bringing it to us in space persh instead of on the forums, trying backing up your arguments with figures.
 You have space? Well the answer to that is that you are too insignificant for me to be concerned with in gang. The only place where you guys pop up on my radar is here where you like to gossip about us like you are a jr highschool girls.
Originally by: Yolan
We are pretty happy with the amount of kills we get against F-E considering the size of our corp, do you really want to review your kill ratio against us using your 2000+ alliance. Then please go for it.
It is pretty easy for random nubs to form a small corp and gank members of a large alliance resulting in a positive kill/loss ratio. Ganking haulers doesnt make you special. If you enjoy doing it, then good for you. Have fun. But you dont get a cookie for having a positive kill/loss ratio. Anyone in eve can goto any non-pure pvp alliances space, get ganks and have a positive kill/loss ratio. It's really easy.
Originally by: Yolan
You can slag us off all you like but the fact is so far you have miserably failed to deal with us despite what most of your alliance keeping posting. Quote:
As of now your little 3-4 man gangs are too insignificant for us considering doing something about. You do not really effect our alliance in any way. We have accepted you as our pets.
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2006.04.09 10:42:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Darken Two on 09/04/2006 10:43:55
Originally by: Yolan
Firstly why dont you post with persh instead of Enfoe. Secondly we are no ones fanboi, we not the ones who beg to nap with the someone just to save our asses (not to mention the alliance funds which get used as the F-E leaderships private wallets)
Try bringing it to us in space persh instead of on the forums, trying backing up your arguments with figures. We are pretty happy with the amount of kills we get against F-E considering the size of our corp, do you really want to review your kill ratio against us using your 2000+ alliance. Then please go for it.
You can slag us off all you like but the fact is so far you have miserably failed to deal with us despite what most of your alliance keeping posting.
ROFL yea Persh is using FE funds as a personal wallet. Care to prove that statement or are you just blowin smoke out your ass.
Oh and you can pretend to be aggravated by us, but we aint the ones starting thsese idiotic threads on teh forums. If you havwe a hardon for persh, I suggest you use some other medium to vent your frustrations.
Ps. Yolan, you're pretty qucik to call everone else noobs but can you please show me one killboard where a small corp has a bad killratio against a large allaince. If you can't figure out why that might be, I can't help ya.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2006.04.09 10:55:00 -
[77]
Forget the forum war sp4nk, kill them in space. Its much easier and far more entertaining.
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.04.09 10:57:00 -
[78]
Hmmmm......the more things change the more they stay the same the last thread was a steaming pile of flame bait and this one is to,I would remark further but SP4NK isn't worth the perma ban,I reserve that for BoB or Halseth.
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Done is done
Yes, there will be no taking back
Every journey must come to an end
All hail to the Gunslinger
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thedragoon
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Posted - 2006.04.09 10:59:00 -
[79]
Without reading one of the reply's to the main post because i assume that there is alot of flame..
I can confirm that the basis of this post is correct..
I can also tell you that Krullz is one of the smartest leaders and alliance has ever had well the rest of the north has fallen His alliance still stands strong....
pers and krullz really are 4tw for FE and all of Fe membership have them to thank for still having 0 sec space
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Purgatori
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Posted - 2006.04.09 11:04:00 -
[80]
*CLICK*
*CLICK*
Dammit why isnt this post locking!
*CLICK*
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Bayroo
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Posted - 2006.04.09 11:20:00 -
[81]
C
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C
K
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Move along now. 
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Recluse Viramor
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Posted - 2006.04.09 18:27:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Recluse Viramor on 09/04/2006 18:28:10
Edited by: Recluse Viramor on 09/04/2006 18:27:37
Originally by: Enfoe
edit - disreguard the paragraph above. I checked the numbers off your killboard and you do not have a + kill loss ratio against us. This is amazingly hard to do for a small pvp corp who specializes in ganking(well the special part you got right). Our space is so crowded that you could afk with smartbombs on and kill someone. How a 'pvp corp' like spank can come into our space purely for ganking and still have a - kill/loss ratio is beyond me. Not a great advertisment for your corp. If your corps sole claim to fame is to kill 10 fe battleships in 1.5 months then you should disband tbh.
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Ituralde
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Posted - 2006.04.09 20:21:00 -
[83]
I remember the 5 NAP and was in CDI at the time, part of the crowd that was at the time against it. I remember Persh explaining his reasoning to us on TS and while he mentioned the possibility of .5. turning around and backstabbing F-E, he NEVER at any point mentioned backstabbing 5.
I would just point to F-E and its former allies that turned against them and think about how bad an idea it was for F-E to go its own way, independent from the enclosurist standings of the north.
Take a look at the former allies of F-E.
PA and NBSI are dead.
IRON abandoned Deklein.
G disbanded and grabbed TRUST and are now reconsolidating as D2.
RA is getting slapped around, holding onto only Cache where they once held 7 regions.
What is in common with all of these parties? None made a significant commitment to helping F-E fight the 5. A war F-E got into, even by their own war dec post, by jumping onto the bandwagon of the former northern allies. F-E learned the lesson of the errors of standings enclosurism and look where they are now:
 Leaders of a northeastern coalition that controls 6 regions
Winning wars against some of the most powerful of the old guard in EVE (GIRONZOR)
Getting powerful enough such that they are competing with BoB in terms of quantities of whining pilots complaining about them.
Tell me all that is not a good reason to turn against useless enclosurist allies.
P.S. I still think F-E could have held D-7 anyways, but its very clear nonetheless that their choice was a better alternative than fighting a useless war for worthless friends.
Fear is the mind-killer. |
Acwron
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Posted - 2006.04.09 20:44:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Ituralde
some crap
Is there some training in JC that all new members go rough for posting bull**** on the forums while having no clue whatsoever?
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alty mcaltalot
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Posted - 2006.04.09 20:46:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Acwron
Originally by: Ituralde
some crap
Is there some training in JC that all new members go rough for posting bull**** on the forums while having no clue whatsoever?
going through one of their recruitment interviews is enough to **** anyone in the head
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.04.09 20:49:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Ituralde
I remember the 5 NAP and was in CDI at the time, part of the crowd that was at the time against it. I remember Persh explaining his reasoning to us on TS and while he mentioned the possibility of .5. turning around and backstabbing F-E, he NEVER at any point mentioned backstabbing 5.
I would just point to F-E and its former allies that turned against them and think about how bad an idea it was for F-E to go its own way, independent from the enclosurist standings of the north.
Take a look at the former allies of F-E.
PA and NBSI are dead.
IRON abandoned Deklein.
G disbanded and grabbed TRUST and are now reconsolidating as D2.
RA is getting slapped around, holding onto only Cache where they once held 7 regions.
What is in common with all of these parties? None made a significant commitment to helping F-E fight the 5. A war F-E got into, even by their own war dec post, by jumping onto the bandwagon of the former northern allies. F-E learned the lesson of the errors of standings enclosurism and look where they are now:
Leaders of a northeastern coalition that controls 6 regions
Winning wars against some of the most powerful of the old guard in EVE (GIRONZOR)
Getting powerful enough such that they are competing with BoB in terms of quantities of whining pilots complaining about them.
Tell me all that is not a good reason to turn against useless enclosurist allies.
P.S. I still think F-E could have held D-7 anyways, but its very clear nonetheless that their choice was a better alternative than fighting a useless war for worthless friends.
I want to be polite and honest: you are not fitting into JF, or atleast u have to take ALOT lessons in proper forum propaganda 
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2006.04.09 21:58:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Ituralde
I remember the 5 NAP and was in CDI at the time, part of the crowd that was at the time against it. I remember Persh explaining his reasoning to us on TS and while he mentioned the possibility of .5. turning around and backstabbing F-E, he NEVER at any point mentioned backstabbing 5.
I would just point to F-E and its former allies that turned against them and think about how bad an idea it was for F-E to go its own way, independent from the enclosurist standings of the north.
Take a look at the former allies of F-E.
PA and NBSI are dead.
IRON abandoned Deklein.
G disbanded and grabbed TRUST and are now reconsolidating as D2.
RA is getting slapped around, holding onto only Cache where they once held 7 regions.
What is in common with all of these parties? None made a significant commitment to helping F-E fight the 5. A war F-E got into, even by their own war dec post, by jumping onto the bandwagon of the former northern allies. F-E learned the lesson of the errors of standings enclosurism and look where they are now:
Leaders of a northeastern coalition that controls 6 regions
Winning wars against some of the most powerful of the old guard in EVE (GIRONZOR)
Getting powerful enough such that they are competing with BoB in terms of quantities of whining pilots complaining about them.
Tell me all that is not a good reason to turn against useless enclosurist allies.
P.S. I still think F-E could have held D-7 anyways, but its very clear nonetheless that their choice was a better alternative than fighting a useless war for worthless friends.
I want to be polite and honest: you are not fitting into JF, or atleast u have to take ALOT lessons in proper forum propaganda
He said Persh did the right thing for FE. What are you saying? Or are you just dissin him cos he's in JF?
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.04.09 22:03:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Ituralde
I remember the 5 NAP and was in CDI at the time, part of the crowd that was at the time against it. I remember Persh explaining his reasoning to us on TS and while he mentioned the possibility of .5. turning around and backstabbing F-E, he NEVER at any point mentioned backstabbing 5.
I would just point to F-E and its former allies that turned against them and think about how bad an idea it was for F-E to go its own way, independent from the enclosurist standings of the north.
Take a look at the former allies of F-E.
PA and NBSI are dead.
IRON abandoned Deklein.
G disbanded and grabbed TRUST and are now reconsolidating as D2.
RA is getting slapped around, holding onto only Cache where they once held 7 regions.
What is in common with all of these parties? None made a significant commitment to helping F-E fight the 5. A war F-E got into, even by their own war dec post, by jumping onto the bandwagon of the former northern allies. F-E learned the lesson of the errors of standings enclosurism and look where they are now:
Leaders of a northeastern coalition that controls 6 regions
Winning wars against some of the most powerful of the old guard in EVE (GIRONZOR)
Getting powerful enough such that they are competing with BoB in terms of quantities of whining pilots complaining about them.
Tell me all that is not a good reason to turn against useless enclosurist allies.
P.S. I still think F-E could have held D-7 anyways, but its very clear nonetheless that their choice was a better alternative than fighting a useless war for worthless friends.
I want to be polite and honest: you are not fitting into JF, or atleast u have to take ALOT lessons in proper forum propaganda
He said Persh did the right thing for FE. What are you saying? Or are you just dissin him cos he's in JF?
Hes not doing it the JF way, just normal bullying like you. still waiting for ur answer on the other thread though.
waiting...
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Ituralde
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Posted - 2006.04.09 22:07:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Ituralde on 09/04/2006 22:12:01
I was just offering my honest personal perspective, not trying to chuck around propoganda. Yes, I am slightly biased in my views towards what is left of the north but really, am I wrong on any point there? If I am, then please do explain.
To make this explicity clear on where I am basing my knowledge of the situation regarding the 5 - F-E NAP, this is a personal account. I was there when F-E napped 5, I think thats pretty clear from my initial post but I guess Ill re-iterate it here so it is very clear.
...Unless you mysteriously just took over tribute while I was not looking in which case I will eat my words. That's pretty doubtful, so I think ill stick with what I said earlier.
...and what do you know about the 'JF way' anyhow? I doubt you *really* have a clue.
Fear is the mind-killer. |
Darken Two
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Posted - 2006.04.09 22:12:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Ituralde
I remember the 5 NAP and was in CDI at the time, part of the crowd that was at the time against it. I remember Persh explaining his reasoning to us on TS and while he mentioned the possibility of .5. turning around and backstabbing F-E, he NEVER at any point mentioned backstabbing 5.
I would just point to F-E and its former allies that turned against them and think about how bad an idea it was for F-E to go its own way, independent from the enclosurist standings of the north.
Take a look at the former allies of F-E.
PA and NBSI are dead.
IRON abandoned Deklein.
G disbanded and grabbed TRUST and are now reconsolidating as D2.
RA is getting slapped around, holding onto only Cache where they once held 7 regions.
What is in common with all of these parties? None made a significant commitment to helping F-E fight the 5. A war F-E got into, even by their own war dec post, by jumping onto the bandwagon of the former northern allies. F-E learned the lesson of the errors of standings enclosurism and look where they are now:
Leaders of a northeastern coalition that controls 6 regions
Winning wars against some of the most powerful of the old guard in EVE (GIRONZOR)
Getting powerful enough such that they are competing with BoB in terms of quantities of whining pilots complaining about them.
Tell me all that is not a good reason to turn against useless enclosurist allies.
P.S. I still think F-E could have held D-7 anyways, but its very clear nonetheless that their choice was a better alternative than fighting a useless war for worthless friends.
I want to be polite and honest: you are not fitting into JF, or atleast u have to take ALOT lessons in proper forum propaganda
He said Persh did the right thing for FE. What are you saying? Or are you just dissin him cos he's in JF?
Hes not doing it the JF way, just normal bullying like you. still waiting for ur answer on the other thread though.
waiting...
OMG I can't believe I actually missed that. What was the question again and I'll answer it here.
And yea I agree he doesn't really type it out the JF way tho the basic premise of his message is indeed true. Persh did make the right call and FE have prospered because of it. You can hate us but you can't really contest that. Persh's job is to ensure the survival of FE and to keep it fun for its memebrs. I doubt anyone in FE would say that Persh didn't achieve those aims uptil this point in time.
Don't know what you've got against us Woodlouse but you guys seem to have an unusual amount of dislike for us even though before this current conflict, the relationship between our alliances have been purely political.
You may call us weak, but we are still here and we are going strong. And you may dislike our allies but they have had our back from the moment we were allied unlike our previous allies. I don't think FE have any regrets for the choices our leadership have made.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.04.09 22:14:00 -
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if f-e hadnt talked about it or considered it i would say they were muppets
i consider it all the time
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.04.09 22:15:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Ituralde
I was just offering my honest personal perspective, not trying to chuck around propoganda. Yes, I am slightly biased in my views towards what is left of the north but really, am I wrong on any point there? If I am, then please do explain.
...Unless you mysteriously just took over tribute while I was not looking in which case I will eat my words. That's pretty doubtful, so I think ill stick with what I said earlier.
It took them a WEEK to kill our posses, while we werent there (only on last day for one hour), most of the day being occupied by a 800+ monsterblob in EC.
This war is far from over. And yes u are biased, as i am.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.04.09 22:18:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Ituralde
I remember the 5 NAP and was in CDI at the time, part of the crowd that was at the time against it. I remember Persh explaining his reasoning to us on TS and while he mentioned the possibility of .5. turning around and backstabbing F-E, he NEVER at any point mentioned backstabbing 5.
I would just point to F-E and its former allies that turned against them and think about how bad an idea it was for F-E to go its own way, independent from the enclosurist standings of the north.
Take a look at the former allies of F-E.
PA and NBSI are dead.
IRON abandoned Deklein.
G disbanded and grabbed TRUST and are now reconsolidating as D2.
RA is getting slapped around, holding onto only Cache where they once held 7 regions.
What is in common with all of these parties? None made a significant commitment to helping F-E fight the 5. A war F-E got into, even by their own war dec post, by jumping onto the bandwagon of the former northern allies. F-E learned the lesson of the errors of standings enclosurism and look where they are now:
Leaders of a northeastern coalition that controls 6 regions
Winning wars against some of the most powerful of the old guard in EVE (GIRONZOR)
Getting powerful enough such that they are competing with BoB in terms of quantities of whining pilots complaining about them.
Tell me all that is not a good reason to turn against useless enclosurist allies.
P.S. I still think F-E could have held D-7 anyways, but its very clear nonetheless that their choice was a better alternative than fighting a useless war for worthless friends.
I want to be polite and honest: you are not fitting into JF, or atleast u have to take ALOT lessons in proper forum propaganda
He said Persh did the right thing for FE. What are you saying? Or are you just dissin him cos he's in JF?
Hes not doing it the JF way, just normal bullying like you. still waiting for ur answer on the other thread though.
waiting...
OMG I can't believe I actually missed that. What was the question again and I'll answer it here.
And yea I agree he doesn't really type it out the JF way tho the basic premise of his message is indeed true. Persh did make the right call and FE have prospered because of it. You can hate us but you can't really contest that. Persh's job is to ensure the survival of FE and to keep it fun for its memebrs. I doubt anyone in FE would say that Persh didn't achieve those aims uptil this point in time.
Don't know what you've got against us Woodlouse but you guys seem to have an unusual amount of dislike for us even though before this current conflict, the relationship between our alliances have been purely political.
You may call us weak, but we are still here and we are going strong. And you may dislike our allies but they have had our back from the moment we were allied unlike our previous allies. I don't think FE have any regrets for the choices our leadership have made.
Fair enough. Different attitude, different approvals to the game.
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Ituralde
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Posted - 2006.04.09 22:24:00 -
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Some people read the first post before giving their opinions on a topic. I do beleive it was about allegations that Persh napped .5. only for the purpose of betraying them.
I never guessed G was so self-important that you thought this was really about you. Its not, your ex-alliance was simply mentioned for the sake of context.
Anyhow, they did destroy that POS, didn't they? Even if it did take a bit. The funniest part is, had you helped out F-E against the .5., they never would have had to NAP them and you would have a powerful ally, not a powerful enemy. Even if you want to maintain your self-imposed image of superiority, they can at least field a large fleet that can at least cause you some trouble, enough that they certainly are not going anywhere fast.
If you really want to tally it up though, F-E killed a POS, whereas you lost a seperate battle and a lapdog alliance that built you capital ships. No, by no means are they or you dead, but I think everyone can agree that was a serious blow. The great thing is, maybe with 300 F-E/Kaos battleships at your side, maybe you could have won the battle in EC-P8R.
Isn't it amazing how standings enclosurism, the reason you went to war with F-E, can come and bite you in the rear?
Just idle speculation.
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2006.04.09 22:28:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Ituralde
I was just offering my honest personal perspective, not trying to chuck around propoganda. Yes, I am slightly biased in my views towards what is left of the north but really, am I wrong on any point there? If I am, then please do explain.
...Unless you mysteriously just took over tribute while I was not looking in which case I will eat my words. That's pretty doubtful, so I think ill stick with what I said earlier.
It took them a WEEK to kill our posses, while we werent there (only on last day for one hour), most of the day being occupied by a 800+ monsterblob in EC.
This war is far from over. And yes u are biased, as i am.
It took us about 5 days, not a week ;)
Strontium is a ***** ;)
And the peak was 600 during the first day, then we had around 300-350 during the evenings, down to 80 sometimes.
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Melchom
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Posted - 2006.04.09 22:30:00 -
[96]
Originally by: dimensionZ
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Ituralde
I was just offering my honest personal perspective, not trying to chuck around propoganda. Yes, I am slightly biased in my views towards what is left of the north but really, am I wrong on any point there? If I am, then please do explain.
...Unless you mysteriously just took over tribute while I was not looking in which case I will eat my words. That's pretty doubtful, so I think ill stick with what I said earlier.
It took them a WEEK to kill our posses, while we werent there (only on last day for one hour), most of the day being occupied by a 800+ monsterblob in EC.
This war is far from over. And yes u are biased, as i am.
It took us about 5 days, not a week ;)
Strontium is a ***** ;)
And the peak was 600 during the first day, then we had around 300-350 during the evenings, down to 80 sometimes.
not all Posts are about BOB, the Week goes to F-E.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.04.09 22:39:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Ituralde
Some people read the first post before giving their opinions on a topic. I do beleive it was about allegations that Persh napped .5. only for the purpose of betraying them.
I never guessed G was so self-important that you thought this was really about you. Its not, your ex-alliance was simply mentioned for the sake of context.
Anyhow, they did destroy that POS, didn't they? Even if it did take a bit. The funniest part is, had you helped out F-E against the .5., they never would have had to NAP them and you would have a powerful ally, not a powerful enemy. Even if you want to maintain your self-imposed image of superiority, they can at least field a large fleet that can at least cause you some trouble, enough that they certainly are not going anywhere fast.
If you really want to tally it up though, F-E killed a POS, whereas you lost a seperate battle and a lapdog alliance that built you capital ships. No, by no means are they or you dead, but I think everyone can agree that was a serious blow. The great thing is, maybe with 300 F-E/Kaos battleships at your side, maybe you could have won the battle in EC-P8R.
Isn't it amazing how standings enclosurism, the reason you went to war with F-E, can come and bite you in the rear?
Just idle speculation.
Speculation? yes.
We didnt work like alliances that are in "fear" and nap other entities cause of that. how much more can u enclose you to yourself?
we may have been proud and arrogant - but we had the right to, the name "G Alliance" will never vanish out of Eve history, cause it was something special. like FOE. But not F-E, its just a random normal alliance (nothing against persh and krullz btw, rly not), it isnt powerful at all, only by numbers maybe.
dont play the standing enclosurism card on me. its void, its lastyear, its not fitting anymore.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.04.09 22:41:00 -
[98]
Originally by: dimensionZ
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Ituralde
I was just offering my honest personal perspective, not trying to chuck around propoganda. Yes, I am slightly biased in my views towards what is left of the north but really, am I wrong on any point there? If I am, then please do explain.
...Unless you mysteriously just took over tribute while I was not looking in which case I will eat my words. That's pretty doubtful, so I think ill stick with what I said earlier.
It took them a WEEK to kill our posses, while we werent there (only on last day for one hour), most of the day being occupied by a 800+ monsterblob in EC.
This war is far from over. And yes u are biased, as i am.
It took us about 5 days, not a week ;)
Strontium is a ***** ;)
And the peak was 600 during the first day, then we had around 300-350 during the evenings, down to 80 sometimes.
i was referring to the 2 posses in h-w/d7 you noob :-P
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2006.04.09 22:48:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
dont play the standing enclosurism card on me. its void, its lastyear, its not fitting anymore.
Does that mean your new alliance will not be setting people to -10 KOS purely on the basis of which third party standings they maintain Woodlouse?
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Ituralde
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Posted - 2006.04.09 22:51:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Ituralde on 09/04/2006 22:53:05
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Speculation? yes.
We didnt work like alliances that are in "fear" and nap other entities cause of that. how much more can u enclose you to yourself?
we may have been proud and arrogant - but we had the right to, the name "G Alliance" will never vanish out of Eve history, cause it was something special. like FOE. But not F-E, its just a random normal alliance (nothing against persh and krullz btw, rly not), it isnt powerful at all, only by numbers maybe.
dont play the standing enclosurism card on me. its void, its lastyear, its not fitting anymore.
Well, as I am no longer in Forsaken Empire I won't debate how powerful they are or not, they have forum warriors enough to engage in that fight.
But really, if they are so weak, how come you can't kill them? And is their NAP that much in fear when they got so much out of the deal?
And if you say the standings enclosurism card is void, does that mean you would accept freindly relations with someone who is friendly to say, BoB or F-E? If you would, then by all means you will never see anyone in Jericho Fraction use that on you. Somehow I doubt it.
[Edit] ^^ Nvm pwned by Jasmine.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.04.09 22:51:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
dont play the standing enclosurism card on me. its void, its lastyear, its not fitting anymore.
Does that mean your new alliance will not be setting people to -10 KOS purely on the basis of which third party standings they maintain Woodlouse?
Dont ask me im just a poor foot soldier in this great enclosured universe
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Kinsy
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Posted - 2006.04.09 22:57:00 -
[102]
Originally by: magickangaroo
gr1mreaper.
i got a few friends in spank, there good guys. i now worry for their sanity having such an illeterate cap using monkey as yourself in corp chat must give them great headaches.
i myself was not fond of the fe-5 alliance, i think for rp sake and history sake they were good at the other end of each others barrels. but dude..... no one cares anymore. go away.
QFT, Please be a bit nicer.
One of the reasons why we NAPed with you was because i talked the guys into it based on my experience with the GODS - UnA war. Very nice fights, no smack, tons of respect for both sides.
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.04.09 23:01:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Ituralde
Edited by: Ituralde on 09/04/2006 22:53:05
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Speculation? yes.
We didnt work like alliances that are in "fear" and nap other entities cause of that. how much more can u enclose you to yourself?
we may have been proud and arrogant - but we had the right to, the name "G Alliance" will never vanish out of Eve history, cause it was something special. like FOE. But not F-E, its just a random normal alliance (nothing against persh and krullz btw, rly not), it isnt powerful at all, only by numbers maybe.
dont play the standing enclosurism card on me. its void, its lastyear, its not fitting anymore.
Well, as I am no longer in Forsaken Empire I won't debate how powerful they are or not, they have forum warriors enough to engage in that fight.
But really, if they are so weak, how come you can't kill them? And is their NAP that much in fear when they got so much out of the deal?
And if you say the standings enclosurism card is void, does that mean you would accept freindly relations with someone who is friendly to say, BoB or F-E? If you would, then by all means you will never see anyone in Jericho Fraction use that on you. Somehow I doubt it.
[Edit] ^^ Nvm pwned by Jasmine.
we havent even started to begin. our standing policy may change or not, its not me to decide. if u were in the meeting we had with F-E, u would know what rly happened. in the end, both parties f**ed up.
nothing more to say rly.
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Neurosis
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Posted - 2006.04.09 23:28:00 -
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Cmdr woodeh, G/L in D2, Although i've rarely agreed with the timing or motive of G's involvements you all proved a very formidable adversary and I'm sure that will carry to D2.
FOE, G... yes they will always be remembered, but I have a feeling there is still a lot of unwritten history that may or may not drop F-E in the Alliance hall of fame, the fat lady is far from singing.
The pos's in D7 were left past thier expiration date for several reasons, none of which included the inability to get it done at a moments notice.
To the rest of the whining and complaining in this thread for the most part it's just people hating because they either left thinking it would die, or are part of what died while F-E still remains.
I'm personally bored with the hate, laughing at the - kill/loss ration of sp4nk, and quite curious about the new D2 and it's future impact and role in eve history.
There are some VERY interesting times in the future and some major changes in the game mechanics to be brought with the introduction of KALI and motherships/titans. People should really take a day or 2 away from Eve, at least go talk to a girl or call your mom if you're too much of a lost cause, and come back with a fresh head and a little less ignorance and anger.
BTW I refuse to beleive Persh is not a girl, the voice on TS is secksy
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Enfoe
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Posted - 2006.04.09 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ituralde
Anyhow, they did destroy that POS, didn't they?[/quote
Actually it was 5 large pos's, and yes.
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Raznarok
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Posted - 2006.04.09 23:53:00 -
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lol, watches Gr1m reel in the fish of the day
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