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Drake Rabies
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Posted - 2006.04.08 18:11:00 -
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Quite simply I know of no other ship which cannot fit a full complement of its best class guns without having to add PG enhancements. God forbid you want any sort of tank on this thing but not even being able to fit the guns on it is a joke
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.04.08 18:14:00 -
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Is there a problem with fitting autocannons on a Muninn? Because I don't see a problem with it.
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HammaSlamma
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Posted - 2006.04.08 18:18:00 -
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Autocannon munnin is a gank machine. But the OP is right. The munnin is supposed to be an artillary platform yet it has crap fittings.
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Drake Rabies
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Posted - 2006.04.08 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Is there a problem with fitting autocannons on a Muninn? Because I don't see a problem with it.
Yes its called a vagabond.
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Ricky Baby
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Posted - 2006.04.08 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Rabies Quite simply I know of no other ship which cannot fit a full complement of its best class guns without having to add PG enhancements. God forbid you want any sort of tank on this thing but not even being able to fit the guns on it is a joke
Deimos, tempest, thorax, brutix - just to name a few. ------------------------ Atomic Battle Penguins - Mercs for hire |

Soros
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Posted - 2006.04.08 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Rabies
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Is there a problem with fitting autocannons on a Muninn? Because I don't see a problem with it.
Yes its called a vagabond.
The vagabond is the problem for fitting auto's on a munin .......
no not really.
Oh and to answer your previous question, deimos has even more trouble fitting neutrons than the munin has fitting 720's
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.04.08 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Rabies Quite simply I know of no other ship which cannot fit a full complement of its best class guns without having to add PG enhancements.
You don't fly many ships then.
"The Human eye is a marvelous device, with a very little effort it can overlook all but the most glaring injustice" - Quellchrist Falconer |

Drake Rabies
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Posted - 2006.04.08 18:37:00 -
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MWD auto tempest is not outclassed by an auto phoon. Galente dont deserve decent guns, they win fights with their dazling personalities.
Taken, orginal statement too sweeping, problem still stands when you can buy both at a very simmilar price (assuming your preordering) why youd want ro fit ac on a muninn when the vaga does the job so much better its a crying shame. Theres a reason you hardly ever see these ships in space the same cannot be said about the deimos.
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2006.04.08 19:14:00 -
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Edited by: LUKEC on 08/04/2006 19:15:11
Originally by: Drake Rabies MWD auto tempest is not outclassed by an auto phoon. Galente dont deserve decent guns, they win fights with their dazling personalities.
Taken, orginal statement too sweeping, problem still stands when you can buy both at a very simmilar price (assuming your preordering) why youd want ro fit ac on a muninn when the vaga does the job so much better its a crying shame. Theres a reason you hardly ever see these ships in space the same cannot be said about the deimos.
Dunno where you live, but munin >deimos anytime. Oh and just to add... arty munin with mwd will pwn deimos so badly that it is not even funny. Acs = even easier.
If you want to see munin in space... convo ABURITORU and go visit him in AF or something... he will arrange your trip back to station.
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Slink Grinsdikild
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Posted - 2006.04.08 19:29:00 -
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I have found they require good skills to operate (i.e. AWU 5 to fit a decent 720mm II setup) which I don't have. Sucks being a noob. 
Also, after RMR the Cyclone stole its thunder - likewise people are now using the Thrasher over the Wolf for 280mm gankage. T1 ships ftw
______ Proud member of The 99977 - Those unfortunate ones not to make it into The 23. |

LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.04.08 19:33:00 -
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Edited by: LWMaverick on 08/04/2006 19:33:54
Originally by: Drake Rabies Quite simply I know of no other ship which cannot fit a full complement of its best class guns without having to add PG enhancements. God forbid you want any sort of tank on this thing but not even being able to fit the guns on it is a joke
As a start, you had me hooked, and its not the first time i hear that the munin needs a fixing.. but when you got the part where "best class guns with having to add PG enhancements blah blah" i went all   Lol... k ***
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.04.08 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Rabies
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Is there a problem with fitting autocannons on a Muninn? Because I don't see a problem with it.
Yes its called a vagabond.
Only problem with the Muninn is the idiots who fly it. Same goes for the Deimos
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Imhotep Khem
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Posted - 2006.04.08 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: Imhotep Khem on 08/04/2006 23:22:23 Ofcourse the Vagabond is more versatile than the Muninn against larger ships because it uses the main advantage smaller ships have over larger ships. Speed. But I would take a Muninn against a smaller ship anyday over a vagabond. Plus a Muninn will beat the hell out of a Vagabond
I like my Muninn but quite frankly, for a few dollars more I can get a Sleipnir ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'. |

Aversin
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Posted - 2006.04.08 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Soros
Originally by: Drake Rabies
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Is there a problem with fitting autocannons on a Muninn? Because I don't see a problem with it.
Yes its called a vagabond.
The vagabond is the problem for fitting auto's on a munin .......
no not really.
Oh and to answer your previous question, deimos has even more trouble fitting neutrons than the munin has fitting 720's
650mm's 720mm's
electron ion neutron
why do they get three sizes? :(
Originally by: Razner Cerizo They will never quit. The beatings will continue until morale improves.
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dazedandconfused
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Posted - 2006.04.08 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Rabies Quite simply I know of no other ship which cannot fit a full complement of its best class guns without having to add PG enhancements. God forbid you want any sort of tank on this thing but not even being able to fit the guns on it is a joke
Sacrilege is pretty hard to fit :P Hear the Deimos is too.
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dazedandconfused
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Posted - 2006.04.08 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: Imhotep Khem Edited by: Imhotep Khem on 08/04/2006 23:22:23 Ofcourse the Vagabond is more versatile than the Muninn against larger ships because it uses the main advantage smaller ships have over larger ships. Speed. But I would take a Muninn against a smaller ship anyday over a vagabond. Plus a Muninn will beat the hell out of a Vagabond
I like my Muninn but quite frankly, for a few dollars more I can get a Sleipnir
Yep, I just fly my Absolution now. My Zealot has just been collecting dust heh
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2006.04.08 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Imhotep Khem Plus a Muninn will beat the hell out of a Vagabond
Only if it's arty muninn vs arty vaga.
The muninn could use about 60-80 more pg or so, but that's about it imo.
A dirty job - Released 2006.01.02 |

Imhotep Khem
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Posted - 2006.04.09 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ras Blumin
Originally by: Imhotep Khem Plus a Muninn will beat the hell out of a Vagabond
Only if it's arty muninn vs arty vaga.
The muninn could use about 60-80 more pg or so, but that's about it imo.
auto-munnin will eat a vagabond. ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'. |

Zysco
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Posted - 2006.04.09 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Imhotep Khem
Originally by: Ras Blumin
Originally by: Imhotep Khem Plus a Muninn will beat the hell out of a Vagabond
Only if it's arty muninn vs arty vaga.
The muninn could use about 60-80 more pg or so, but that's about it imo.
auto-munnin will eat a vagabond.
Uhhh no lol, vaga gets falloff bonus, aka it sits outside muninn range and pwns it. A vaga also has a better tank.
Btw a muninn is compelteyl fine (because i no longer fly it).
Originally by: Ginger Magician
I have the fingerspeed of a teenager the brains of a rocket scientist and the tactical nous of a 5 star general. Why do u think I'm so freaking good?
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Felony Assualt
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Posted - 2006.04.09 01:03:00 -
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Edited by: Felony Assualt on 09/04/2006 01:03:28
Originally by: Drake Rabies Quite simply I know of no other ship which cannot fit a full complement of its best class guns without having to add PG enhancements. God forbid you want any sort of tank on this thing but not even being able to fit the guns on it is a joke
Lets go hop in a mega and fit t2 neutrons and a.. Maybe you should stick to flying mammoth's
Those who can, do; Those who cant, teach |

Imhotep Khem
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Posted - 2006.04.09 01:04:00 -
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There is no auto-range setting button on a Vagabond. You gotta earn getting outside of range. How about, Muninn gets inside Vagabond and with superior tracking and damage owns the Vagabond?
And a vagabond having a better tank than a Muninn  ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'. |

ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.04.09 01:08:00 -
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munminn does suc*** a\ssss tho
Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside How intelligible, blessed be the forgetful |

Hast
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Posted - 2006.04.09 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: ParMizaN munminn does suc*** a\ssss tho
you sir should go to bed
I cheat in poker |

Zysco
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Posted - 2006.04.09 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Imhotep Khem There is no auto-range setting button on a Vagabond. You gotta earn getting outside of range. How about, Muninn gets inside Vagabond and with superior tracking and damage owns the Vagabond?
And a vagabond having a better tank than a Muninn 
How is a muninn possibly gonna "get inside vagabond" when the vaga is 3x as fast?
Originally by: Ginger Magician
I have the fingerspeed of a teenager the brains of a rocket scientist and the tactical nous of a 5 star general. Why do u think I'm so freaking good?
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Imhotep Khem
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Posted - 2006.04.09 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: Zysco
Originally by: Imhotep Khem There is no auto-range setting button on a Vagabond. You gotta earn getting outside of range. How about, Muninn gets inside Vagabond and with superior tracking and damage owns the Vagabond?
And a vagabond having a better tank than a Muninn 
How is a muninn possibly gonna "get inside vagabond" when the vaga is 3x as fast?
I guess I left off the part about the Muninn not having an auto-range-set button either.
We are talking webbifier range combat right? ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'. |

Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.04.09 05:29:00 -
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Muninn is a fine ship. Too bad it costs more than a Cyclone or I'd fly one again.
Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
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Zysco
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Posted - 2006.04.09 05:42:00 -
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Edited by: Zysco on 09/04/2006 05:42:12
Originally by: Imhotep Khem
Originally by: Zysco
Originally by: Imhotep Khem There is no auto-range setting button on a Vagabond. You gotta earn getting outside of range. How about, Muninn gets inside Vagabond and with superior tracking and damage owns the Vagabond?
And a vagabond having a better tank than a Muninn 
How is a muninn possibly gonna "get inside vagabond" when the vaga is 3x as fast?
I guess I left off the part about the Muninn not having an auto-range-set button either.
We are talking webbifier range combat right?
No, a vaga can orbit at like 22km+ with a faction disruptor or 19km with a normal disruptor, using barrage, and outrange a muninn. Muninn would be helpless.
Originally by: Ginger Magician
I have the fingerspeed of a teenager the brains of a rocket scientist and the tactical nous of a 5 star general. Why do u think I'm so freaking good?
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Wizie
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Posted - 2006.04.09 05:50:00 -
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Originally by: Zysco Edited by: Zysco on 09/04/2006 05:42:12
Originally by: Imhotep Khem
Originally by: Zysco
Originally by: Imhotep Khem There is no auto-range setting button on a Vagabond. You gotta earn getting outside of range. How about, Muninn gets inside Vagabond and with superior tracking and damage owns the Vagabond?
And a vagabond having a better tank than a Muninn 
How is a muninn possibly gonna "get inside vagabond" when the vaga is 3x as fast?
I guess I left off the part about the Muninn not having an auto-range-set button either.
We are talking webbifier range combat right?
No, a vaga can orbit at like 22km+ with a faction disruptor or 19km with a normal disruptor, using barrage, and outrange a muninn. Muninn would be helpless.
If you are using your Vaga in webifier range against other ships that do dmg at that range.. DAMN you are not smart.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.04.09 06:22:00 -
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Edited by: Famine Aligher''ri on 09/04/2006 06:23:02 Vagabond = Predictable Munnin = Not
Don't try to debate which is better. Try to debate why people seem to post up moronic posts =)
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Imhotep Khem
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Posted - 2006.04.09 19:57:00 -
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That makes no sense. You set all these specific conditions that favor Vagabond then say the vagabond can beat a Muninn because of that
Try to orbit around 20km and scramble a Muninn. All the Muninn has to do is hit MWD and before you can react its ~25-28km and warping off...
You can't win a fight orbiting at the edge of warp jammer range. ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'. |
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