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Velios	Posted - 2006.04.10 16:03:00 - [31] If everyone in RA could fight like mactep the south would be very different place today. Respect. M.Corp BPC Packages
Fargas	Posted - 2006.04.10 17:57:00 - [32] if everyone in lv could fight like enslaver... klik, .... davno pora
Uggster	Posted - 2006.04.10 18:06:00 - [33] Originally by: Fargas if everyone in lv could fight like enslaver... And blob you with an alt army ?
balrog	Posted - 2006.04.10 18:27:00 - [34] Enslaver`s economy ftw tbh
Jonaswpl	Posted - 2006.04.10 22:19:00 - [35] First of all, kudos to you MACTEP for a good post. You tried your best to put your point across. MACTEP, let me share with you my point of view on this whole ordeal. During these past few months RA lost their space because LV/V/CHIMP/KOS put their collective minds together and took away the regions with force. I remember when RA members would post how they thought we were a joke and how RA would never surrender. Well, maybe you have not surrendered but RA sure did not make it difficult for us. We lost some battles and RA did thwart off their enemies from setting up POSs but we prevailed. I understand RA is fighting multiple alliances but RA is not alone either. Of course, other issues come into play. MACTEP, you also mention "we all are playing for fun....for many pilots it s too boring to stay in one system during long time and defend it." Sometimes we all have to do something that we do not like doing. I do not like defending stations nor do I like shooting POSs but I do it because it is my duty. I do it because I believe in my leaders and I do it because I want to help anyway I can. I believe the more you give, the more you get in return. Hassis and Cortak seem to have taken a leave of absence. I was told Hassis is now playing WoW and when Cortak logs on he doesn't stay on for very long. I was in RA and I know both Hassis and Cortak were good leaders because I flew alongside them during many ops. I am sure it must have hurt RA to see them depart. Had Hassis been rallying the troops maybe the situation would be different. Who knows. I do not hate RA. I just dislike select few RA corps who talk trash in local while they ***** the complex in 77S everyday instead of helping RA defend their regions or who hide in Curse instead of helping Ghosts of Retribution secure M53. There are other instances as well. I trash talk in local as well escpecially if someone in RA make disparaging remarks regarding Shinra. It is only natural. I am defending what I believe in. While we were in your regions setting up POSs and conquering stations, these individuals were too busy caring about themselves. To Amerame: You have no right to say anything regarding KOS or any other issues regarding this war. I believe Section XIII have not contributed alot to RA. I am not denying the fact that Section XIII have some good pvpers nor am I denying the fact that they have worked together in the past with other RA corporations to fight us. I am simply pointing out the fact that Section XIII would rather carebear in QFEW than be more of a presence on the battlefield and this has been the case as of late. There have been multiples instances when I have entered QFEW only to find members doing level 4 missions while huge enemy fleets were roaming about. Other RA corporations were working together - such as CWRA - to try and fend us off. Deny it all you want but this is the perception of alot of members in LV. I expect to be flamed by a few Section 13 members because of what I have written but know this. I have always held Robapin and RadialBlur and a few others (sorry if I did not mention your name) with upmost respect. I flew with you guys before and I enjoyed pvping with you guys even though I was a noob back then. Actually I am still a noob. The rest of the Section XIII guys who do nothing but talk trash in local, honestly you suck. I apologize but there is no better way to say it. Instead of fighting, these members would rather spam local. Don't get me wrong. I also talked trash but after everything was said and done, we would be shooting down your fellow RA members a few jumps away while Section 13 would be safespotted and accuse us of blobbing. The language barrier can pose a problem but it can be done. I have seen CWRA form up with Russian players and they seem to do just fine. Also, the language barrier does not prevent anyone from helping GHOST and RA secure M53. So I ask Section XIII, what have you done for RA lately? Karma Police
Angry Dan	Posted - 2006.04.10 23:38:00 - [36] Well done for a well thought out and competent reply. If anyone happens to know where we can find this evish presley tard, please let me know, I fancy podding him back to the stone age. ++++++++++++++++++++ Founder member of the Huzzah Federation. Remember, the grass is greener on our side of the fence Widowmakers director Fear my kneepads of allure!
Aeon Yakati	Posted - 2006.04.10 23:40:00 - [37] Originally by: Jonaswpl The language barrier can pose a problem but it can be done. I have seen CWRA form up with Russian players and they seem to do just fine. Also, the language barrier does not prevent anyone from helping GHOST and RA secure M53. So I ask Section XIII, what have you done for RA lately? I share this perception. While I have no doubts they have some decent PVP'ers, they are mostly spotted in QQ3 and other complexes, or doing missions in Q-FEW rather than helping out their comrades on the battlefield. That said, it is surprising to see that some of the harsher words directed towards the coalition originate from RAT. and XIII members. On topic again, good post MACTEP. Though as much as you like to play the underdog here, don't forget that it's the circumstances that you created is what brought your enemies together. At one point both LV and -V- both wanted a NAP with RA but you basically said no way, and what you see now is the result of that. And then there's also your habbit of totally denying the existance of ghost, cc, ff-a etc in your numbercount
Archonon	Posted - 2006.04.11 00:27:00 - [38] Edited by: Archonon on 11/04/2006 00:30:09 We don't care about ur opinion jonas, killboard talks for us and u're on it. Stop smacktalk and learn about pvp. u're pathetic argument in order to destabilize RA will be an echec again. All u prove is ur unabilities to fight us. Divide & conquer _______________________ XIII > 1vs1 ? -LV- > yeah wait 2 min, 1 -v- 1 Kos 1 Chimp 1 MC are on the way XIII > Wtf ?? -LV- > Ohh u run !! Noobish RA !! %%&&* russian !! XIII > i'm french m8 .
Amerame	Posted - 2006.04.11 00:29:00 - [39] Edited by: Amerame on 11/04/2006 00:30:26 Yep, I admit Section XIII is just a bunch of carebears running missions all day long, and smacktalking enemies from ubersafe whenever someone enter QFE. I bow to Shinra, the never ever smacktalking corporation, that always engage enemies regardless of the odds. If section XIII enter your system it's probably for some kind of mining op, or mission running, please don't mind us and don't shoot us. And please, oh please don't ever come back camping qfe with your almighty corporation. /kneel Oh btw Section XIII destroyed 25% of all the Shinra bses RA ever destroyed, well I guess those were just mistarget, we meant to shoot some NPC and oops. Damn wasted ammos. Though you have a point, our attendancy to large scale RA operation is much lower than some other corporation, like CWRA, UAI, RUSSO, FSP-B ... I rather see us as privateers of the RA than anything else. Though this is just my point of view, don't quote me as any kind of official XIII statement.
Jonaswpl	Posted - 2006.04.11 00:53:00 - [40] Nowhere in my post was I trying to destablize RA. Thank you to the both of you for proving to everyone what I was trying to portray. Concerning the killboards: At least we post our losses and don't worry I came prepared; some members of LV have not posted their losses. 99% of the time RA do not post their losses. I guess you might say "Well we are Section XIII and we post ours, we do not care about the rest of the alliance." We know you don't. Karma Police
Amerame	Posted - 2006.04.11 01:01:00 - [41] Edited by: Amerame on 11/04/2006 01:03:03 Originally by: Jonaswpl Nowhere in my post was I trying to destablize RA. Thank you to the both of you for proving to everyone what I was trying to portray. Concerning the killboards: At least we post our losses and don't worry I came prepared; some members of LV have not posted their losses. 99% of the time RA do not post their losses. I guess you might say "Well we are Section XIII and we post ours, we do not care about the rest of the alliance." We know you don't. I'm not talking about losses I'm talking about kills, we don't really care about what we lose, we just care about how much we kill, we'll care about our loses when we can't fit T2 mods on our BS and use T2 cruisers, and it's not like it's going to happen tomorow.
Jonaswpl	Posted - 2006.04.11 01:32:00 - [42] Fair enough Amerame. Fair enough. Karma Police
putukas	Posted - 2006.04.11 19:57:00 - [43] Edited by: putukas on 11/04/2006 19:57:24 dont know about other V members but i like to fight against section XIII imo its one of the best RA¦s corp to fight with. Havent seen them lately but when i did atleast they stood up and fight unlike many, many i mean many others. so gg and gl section XIII
Iberi	Posted - 2006.04.11 20:27:00 - [44] I do not believe... Anyway, gratz, RA, you did learn smth about social interaction.
Steven McWayne	Posted - 2006.04.12 00:02:00 - [45] Quote: Also, the language barrier does not prevent anyone from helping GHOST and RA secure M53. Arr its hard with a Russian wordbook beside the pust to talk key -__-. But if Ra didnt show more Military peeps in branch it will ends like pa :/
Polydectes	Posted - 2006.04.13 01:34:00 - [46] Good post mactep, that about sums it up. Originally by: Jonaswpl The language barrier can pose a problem but it can be done. I have seen CWRA form up with Russian players and they seem to do just fine. If you heard a recording of our fleet ops in teamspeak you would laugh your ass off. One time we had a commander that did speak english, but everytime he would call a target we couldnt understand how he was pronouncing the name. Ps - when flying with Russians, if hear blyett, or chort, it means warp out. ------------------------------------------------- Violence is Golden
Touk	Posted - 2006.04.13 08:20:00 - [47] Originally by: Archonon Edited by: Archonon on 11/04/2006 00:30:09 We don't care about ur opinion jonas, killboard talks for us and u're on it. Stop smacktalk and learn about pvp. u're pathetic argument in order to destabilize RA will be an echec again. All u prove is ur unabilities to fight us. Divide & conquer Have you been living under a rock for the past few months.....in case you had not noticed RA now live in NPC station, empire and seiged and camped cache stations (when they own them) We have learnt how to fight you....we have also learnt how to beat you. Im not gonna make the assumption that RA is dead....but i can understand how it would seem like it to an outsider. "Thats its percy....if all else fails blind optimism will get you through"
Exaali Vendraxxil	Posted - 2006.04.13 16:06:00 - [48] Originally by: Touk in case you had not noticed RA now live in NPC station, empire and seiged and camped cache stations (when they own them) -V- has lived in NPC stations the entire time they've been in Great Wildlands.. And this is automatically a bad thing because..? Quite frankly, before -V- had the other 3-4 alliances as allies this gave them an advantage early on since they didn't have to worry about defending anything.. Originally by: Touk We have learnt how to fight you....we have also learnt how to beat you. Numbers 4tw! Originally by: Touk I'm not gonna make the assumption that RA is dead RA has been living in the Southeast of EVE since the collapse of CA. They're not going anywhere. Stations or no stations, the assumption that RA is going to just give up, throw in the towel, and go live in empire is just wishful thinking. If anything, not having to worry about defense quite so much means the ~1500 members of RA can once again focus on offense. See ya in space, Touk..
WarRages	Posted - 2006.04.13 17:37:00 - [49] Yep that just about sums it up nice work MACTEP!!!! Wait a minute... was that english, you lied to me MAC!!!! Guess it's time to go back being dead now IT'S BETTER TO BURN OUT......... ..........THEN FADE AWAY!!!!
Karina Harington	Posted - 2006.04.13 17:47:00 - [50] Originally by: WarRages Guess it's time to go back being dead now Remember, they can't kill you if you're dead
Beyond Horizon	Posted - 2006.04.14 00:19:00 - [51] Originally by: cflux Edited by: cflux on 09/04/2006 21:56:10 Edited by: cflux on 09/04/2006 21:55:29 Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil That may or may not be true - all your allies may not have helped you directly, but by fighting us at the same time we were fighting you they 'helped' you indirectly. Simple fact. Not smack, but the first time you tried to take Detorid you got run out of there within a few weeks. The only thing different the second time was that we were also fighting 3-5 other Alliances at the same time. Anyway, who cares. LV was not even formed when we took controll of O-W in Detorid. -V- war was against RA had not started. We were very much alone at that point. By the time when we took DG from RA, LV was formed. Don't twist the history books please. You don't need alliance ticker to fly with your friends. LV started negotiations with RA under -5- flag, but claiming they were a new independent alliance. Many times -v- stated that skirmish fights with RA was a regular event before the "official War" started, the semi-war was under way already back then. Noone is twisting anything, you just see the situation from a point where you like it more.
Beyond Horizon	Posted - 2006.04.14 00:30:00 - [52] Originally by: WarRages Yep that just about sums it up nice work MACTEP!!!! Wait a minute... was that english, you lied to me MAC!!!! It was a pleasent surprise to see MACTEP writing in English for me too. Usually he never does that ^_^
lazyb22	Posted - 2006.04.14 05:34:00 - [53] Ya MACTEP it is and always will be a pleasure fighting you. As much as I hate you I respect you as much the same. Much respect to you and RA. Warrages that goes to you as well. Its been fun!! I for one would enjoy seeing you come back but... with a much different outlook. Respect Lazyb22 Director M. Corp LV Signature removed - File size too large.Laurelin
Haldane IV	Posted - 2006.04.14 06:12:00 - [54] CHIMP wereon our own when we made the second (successful) attempt to take OW. We were not assisting or being assisted by our current allies then, and I believe that RA were not at that time so (seriously) distracted by war with Veritas so much that they could not, if they had been bothered, have made a massive counter-attack in OW. Many CHIMPS suspect that RA were never really bothered about keeping OW and DG, other than as somewhere they could install sponsored Corps and make money from them. We did hear a rumour that non-RA corps living in the area were paying RA per month to keep sovereignty for them and for docking rights at OW and DG, and were getting low on funds (our raiding presumably hindered their ratting and mining). Shortly before our (2nd) attack we also heard a rumour (quite possibly completely false)that a large Corp were lining up to move to Detorid as an RA sponsored Corp - which was one reason for the timing of our attack.
Rover Vitesse	Posted - 2006.04.14 11:29:00 - [55] Originally by: Haldane IV CHIMP wereon our own when we made the second (successful) attempt to take OW. We were not assisting or being assisted by our current allies then, and I believe that RA were not at that time so (seriously) distracted by war with Veritas so much that they could not, if they had been bothered, have made a massive counter-attack in OW. Many CHIMPS suspect that RA were never really bothered about keeping OW and DG, other than as somewhere they could install sponsored Corps and make money from them. We did hear a rumour that non-RA corps living in the area were paying RA per month to keep sovereignty for them and for docking rights at OW and DG, and were getting low on funds (our raiding presumably hindered their ratting and mining). Shortly before our (2nd) attack we also heard a rumour (quite possibly completely false)that a large Corp were lining up to move to Detorid as an RA sponsored Corp - which was one reason for the timing of our attack. FSA were paying 1b per week for RA to keep DG and OW open for them. We stopped FSA making ISK, RA didn't get paid, and I guess this was the point when they pulled the plug. I think FSA still have a few unpaid bills. We took 0-W778 and DG-8VJ without any assistance from outside CHIMP. At the time, 0-G8NO was closer to where LV were moving in, we weren't using the space down there, so when LV asked if they could have the station, we were quite happy to cement our relationship with our new allies by giving them the station in 0-G8NO. We even had a combined fleet of CHIMP and LV shooting the station after our combined fleet had took down an RA POS. (I wanted to dock fast and grab an office.) That was the first time I remember CHIMP fighting in a mixed fleet. We then signed a treaty with V and LV, and KOS joined a little later. The exact timings get a little hazy, we've been fighting since November, I'm sure Haldane ^^, the Crisis Corp historian is better on the exact dates. Rovers Chronicles
Kaleeb	Posted - 2006.04.16 08:55:00 - [56] Originally by: Velios If everyone in RA could fight like mactep the south would be very different place today. Respect. QFT MACTEP is one nasty geddon pilot
Daroh	Posted - 2006.04.16 12:04:00 - [57] RA always lived in NPC stations, Agil, Konora, Curse region stations...that is why I dont care about regions. Do i need regions more then i need targets? No, i dont think so. I can say that for ME (and i think for all RA pvp pilots) no regions is not a reason to surrender, but a reason to fight. I like to think about RA as an alliance of ppl who just like to fight, nothing more nothing less. And our friends are thouse who like to fight. If someone wanna become our friend they should like to fight for fun and dont cry about undefended regions and enemies in their belts near arconor asteroid. PS nice post MACTEP
Knat	Posted - 2006.04.16 12:07:00 - [58] Good posting MACTEP - Respect !
Ace Frehley	Posted - 2006.04.16 17:11:00 - [59] Edited by: Ace Frehley on 16/04/2006 17:13:52 just wanna add: "Jag e naken" (for ya all no swedishtalker it means "I¦m nude" and it is C-CP war roar ) if you see that in local, be prepeard for a suiside mooningraid right in the center of your fleet, so don¦t turn ya back against me Btw i have cut down my swdish smacking in local, even with my alt, thank you ra for helping me cure for that bad habbit Text must be in english - Laqum http://img430.imageshack.us/img430/2280/acebar4xc.jpg Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes and your signature is inappropriate for these forums. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
G'ulSera	Posted - 2006.04.16 18:55:00 - [60] Originally by: Ace Frehley Edited by: Ace Frehley on 16/04/2006 17:13:52 just wanna add: "Jag e naken" (for ya all no swedishtalker it means "I¦m nude" and it is C-CP war roar ) if you see that in local, be prepeard for a suiside mooningraid right in the center of your fleet, so don¦t turn ya back against me Btw i have cut down my swdish smacking in local, even with my alt, thank you ra for helping me cure for that bad habbit Ace fix your damn sig :p But nice post from RA... luckily the smack has diminished a lot and a lot of fun is had instead... For Blood and Honour The difference between a killer and a soldier is a question of loyalty

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