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MACTEP	Posted - 2006.04.09 13:53:00 - [1] http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=321118 "If RA are finding that they have no real friends " Elvish what do you know about our friends ?If you saw them you would sit at the station until local ll be clear. "finally put RA to bed" Omg little boy do you understand, what you are talking about? we lost our regions(except cache) couse : 1.One commander-donkey lost 9 dreads and nobody knows who it was ... 2.couse sbm cant to count up how many moons in system and how many poses needs 3.we all are playing for fun....for many pilots it s too boring to stay in one system during long time and defend it ) that we lost soveregnty in m53 it was like 1st april joke....nobody knows how it happened I don t see any problem that we lost our regions......mb we ll lose some miners or smbelse.....but anyway RA had about 200-300 pvp players (in diffrient region and diffrient time) and they ll stay in RA..... RA=1600 lol ) half of them alts so we have 800 about 20% - people which don t play eve for a long time (also agent runners \ noobs) so realy we have about 600-700maximum (400-500minimun) players (talking in different languages and playing at different times) 600-700 eve players it s not 600-700 pvp pilots... that we can not collect blob against 4 alliances I think it s not so terrible. -lv- -v- kos chimp mb smb going to help them? to create new -5- lol ) it will looks like 10(100) members of these alliances trying to catch 1(10) members of RA ....and on the next day when they ll try to fly in their "new" or old regions they ll die to die and die -4- no bad coalition so why did we start war... 1.-v- we were at war with them from old times....now it s new -v- stronger and collected than before.... we could not conclude nap with them because feared treachery in future.. respect to them and to LD -v- ll live until have so lots of commanders.... 2.-lv- we could not conclude nap with them because they wanted Insmother which we could not give them anyway.... and many pilots thought that shinra ll attack our soon..... respect to them nice gangs nice organisation... 3.-chimp- we did not nap with them couse they were noobs( and most of them are :) ) anyway respect to them for assiduousness (I hope this that word which I want to say ) 4. -kos- this in general homeless..haulers \ low minerals miners ))) no respect no nap ) "guys who is reading it i think your russian not better my english )))) "(of couse if you not russian)
Pepperami	Posted - 2006.04.09 14:13:00 - [2] Good post mactep. That's all I wanted to say [Art of War][- V -]
HeadHunta II	Posted - 2006.04.09 14:16:00 - [3] Good post. Tbh, this is the first post (at least of those i read before) filled with sober facts and opinions and not meant to offend the enemys. Also no flame or propaganda like: "Russians never surrender" "They have so much cash, everyone of RA can build 10 Dreads alone" and the rest of the blah blah-talk, nothing to do with the meaning of topics. I mean it can be so easy to talk "normal" or? I know have a better understanding of things, thx Mactep. I hope everyone reading this thread and wants to reply, will do it same way...quote mactep¦s words without flaming or counting their own victory¦s. "-V- Vice President" "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."
Tassi	Posted - 2006.04.09 16:24:00 - [4] Edited by: Tassi on 09/04/2006 16:24:36 Very well written MACTEP. Yes the allies have more pilots than RA, no wonder that you can't keep up with this pressure, especially if you control 5 or more regions! But TBFH it makes me sad that the behemoth Red Alliance could lose its 0.0 grip because of some spies offlining POS's. POS wars are indeed ftl, get me back my station ping-pong! your english is better than my italian and I studied that for 5 years
Elvish Presley	Posted - 2006.04.09 17:06:00 - [5] Glad to see that RA aren't too disheartened by the recent turn of events. And there was me thinking that stiff upper lip was a purely British trait - obviously they still have some exports Nice also to see MACTEP wasting time on the forums, rather than lurking in low sec looking for unwary hauler pilots he can kill for no better reason than they are there. Obviously if it takes 10 to 1 odds for CHIMP to be any threat , you have nothing to worry about have you? A couple of nights mining in Cache and you'll be back on your feet and ready to retake what you've lost no doubt? Think you may have your work cut out to be honest, but what do I know As for playing for fun, yup, that's what most of us are here for. I have had lots of fun this month anticipating the imminent demise of one of EVE's most despised bunch of bandits and vanishing fleet expertsDon't bother to deny it, anyone who has fought RA knows the truth. Personally, I'm not sure if I believe the rumours about the use RA puts it's isk to, but I find myself hoping that they are true, because if so this is really going to hurt. You and most of your alliance, with a very few notable exceptions, are bandits and expoliters and deserve everything that is coming your way. Alas; my cowardly inclination means that I will not personally be participating in your downgrading to "also rans" but I shall be watching with interest. Obviously I have an axe to grind here, and my opinion is less than unbiased, but i think you'll find that it is shared by a large section of the EVE community at large. And yes; your English is far better thanEVE Online \| EVE Insider \| Forums
Elvish Presley	Posted - 2006.04.09 17:06:00 - [6] Glad to see that RA aren't too disheartened by the recent turn of events. And there was me thinking that stiff upper lip was a purely British trait - obviously they still have some exports Nice also to see MACTEP wasting time on the forums, rather than lurking in low sec looking for unwary hauler pilots he can kill for no better reason than they are there. Obviously if it takes 10 to 1 odds for CHIMP to be any threat , you have nothing to worry about have you? A couple of nights mining in Cache and you'll be back on your feet and ready to retake what you've lost no doubt? Think you may have your work cut out to be honest, but what do I know As for playing for fun, yup, that's what most of us are here for. I have had lots of fun this month anticipating the imminent demise of one of EVE's most despised bunch of bandits and vanishing fleet expertsDon't bother to deny it, anyone who has fought RA knows the truth. Personally, I'm not sure if I believe the rumours about the use RA puts it's isk to, but I find myself hoping that they are true, because if so this is really going to hurt. You and most of your alliance, with a very few notable exceptions, are bandits and expoliters and deserve everything that is coming your way. Alas; my cowardly inclination means that I will not personally be participating in your downgrading to "also rans" but I shall be watching with interest. Obviously I have an axe to grind here, and my opinion is less than unbiased, but i think you'll find that it is shared by a large section of the EVE community at large. And yes; your English is far better than my Russian. I hope that will be some consolation to you in the long, dark nights ahead as the sun sets for the last time on your little empire; at least you'll be able to properly understand what people are laughing about. Rest In Pieces RA; it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of guys. Wise men say, only n00bs rush in. Regards, Elvish
Foomanshoe	Posted - 2006.04.09 17:26:00 - [7] Did a reply to another thread really need a whole new thread? Couldnt the reply button have sufficed? You know, like what im doing now? _______________________________________________ Deadspace For Dead space! Originally by: Oveur To the nerfmobile!
Joycalyn	Posted - 2006.04.09 18:19:00 - [8] Good Stuff MACTEP. We will see if the community can hold off the flames and maybe RA will make more announcement posts in the future. Nope.. too late ^(see above) .
awebon	Posted - 2006.04.09 19:01:00 - [9] Originally by: MACTEP Edited by: MACTEP on 09/04/2006 13:54:27 4. -kos- this in general homeless..haulers \ low minerals miners ))) no respect no nap ) assumption that we are jus mere miners/haulers is the mother of all **** up's right there! people will tell you that we fight jus as much and sometimes even more, jus because we are a kinda brand new alliance that we havent made a name for ourselves at the moment. respect works both ways, we (KOS) respect anyone, who deserves it, up until this post was made, now from where i stand you jus lost my respect. see you in space peace awe
Haldane IV	Posted - 2006.04.09 19:34:00 - [10] An interesting insight into how "the other side" saw things. Thanks MACTEP. "Assiduous" is indeed exactly the word I would use to describe how my Alliance went about our business.

Fargas	Posted - 2006.04.09 19:51:00 - [11] 2 kos well afaik it was demogod's deal with lv - kos leaving omist and goes to wc/sp/insm it is clear to anyone having brains that your role in this - cannon fodder you all are being used by lv and demogod. klik, .... davno pora
awebon	Posted - 2006.04.09 20:15:00 - [12] Originally by: Fargas 2 kos well afaik it was demogod's deal with lv - kos leaving omist and goes to wc/sp/insm it is clear to anyone having brains that your role in this - cannon fodder you all are being used by lv and demogod. i am not LV's nor am i demogod's cannon fodder, we moved to wicked creek and have established ourselves there, that comment my friend was unjustified
Fargas	Posted - 2006.04.09 20:21:00 - [13] lol hey dudes, i wanna have your region, but dont worry, you can have my blessings if you'll go to fight my enemyes this is total crap do you feel a finger in your a$$ ? but hands are right here =) klik, .... davno pora
Kalppis	Posted - 2006.04.09 20:33:00 - [14] Nice post, thank you MACTEP. I'm looking ahead for more similar posts :)
Stormhold	Posted - 2006.04.09 20:38:00 - [15] Edited by: Stormhold on 09/04/2006 20:43:20 Finally an RA post without pointless boasting, actually a very good post. Thanks for this one, MACTEP. I have to agree that CHIMP has a lot of unexpirienced pilots (but many more expirienced ones too), but then again, action is probably the best way to teach them (well, my pvp in EVE really kicked off during the start of the war with RA, so was/is for me too) how to fight Many people really really really pointlesly think RA is down way more than it really is and smack it. Even if RA would mostly dissapear from the political map thingie it most probably wouldn't mean mean it's dead. Actually I've recently seen more RA pvp activity than last few months :) Hope to see you and other RA/friends in the space <3
Amerame	Posted - 2006.04.09 20:52:00 - [16] Edited by: Amerame on 09/04/2006 20:53:17 Originally by: awebon Originally by: Fargas 2 kos well afaik it was demogod's deal with lv - kos leaving omist and goes to wc/sp/insm it is clear to anyone having brains that your role in this - cannon fodder you all are being used by lv and demogod. i am not LV's nor am i demogod's cannon fodder, we moved to wicked creek and have established ourselves there, that comment my friend was unjustified You were given that region, you did nothing to take it, but bring a few poses once V LV & co did the job. You are completely unable to defend it, you cannot even defend yourself against very small sized gang. You're just being used as cannon fodder and PoSes runner slaves. I feel sorry for you, you obviously don't have enough fighting experience nor funds to fight against the RA/FF-A gangs infestation in wicked creek, and are not getting any help to secure your space from your allies. Anyway XIII has had a lot of fun in WC and you guys sure have improved some in the last few weeks, but there is still a long way before you can be recognized as a serious military power, since you pretty much never even had enough people to face a single RA corporation.
gfgffdghgghg	Posted - 2006.04.09 21:09:00 - [17] CHIMP = noobs ?, CHIMP took detorid back from RA solo without any help from the other alliances. So you lost your region to a bunch of noobs i guess
Exaali Vendraxxil	Posted - 2006.04.09 21:43:00 - [18] Originally by: gfgffdghgghg CHIMP took detorid back from RA solo without any help from the other alliances That may or may not be true - all your allies may not have helped you directly, but by fighting us at the same time we were fighting you they 'helped' you indirectly. Simple fact. Not smack, but the first time you tried to take Detorid you got run out of there within a few weeks. The only thing different the second time was that we were also fighting 3-5 other Alliances at the same time. Anyway, who cares.
cflux	Posted - 2006.04.09 21:54:00 - [19] Edited by: cflux on 09/04/2006 21:56:10 Edited by: cflux on 09/04/2006 21:55:29 Originally by: Exaali Vendraxxil That may or may not be true - all your allies may not have helped you directly, but by fighting us at the same time we were fighting you they 'helped' you indirectly. Simple fact. Not smack, but the first time you tried to take Detorid you got run out of there within a few weeks. The only thing different the second time was that we were also fighting 3-5 other Alliances at the same time. Anyway, who cares. LV was not even formed when we took controll of O-W in Detorid. -V- war was against RA had not started. We were very much alone at that point. By the time when we took DG from RA, LV was formed. Don't twist the history books please. Correct reason might be that you didn't care for Detorid, but saying that only thing different second time was your "fight" against other alliances is BS. Our first attempt on detorid was basicly putting up small & medium unarmed POS's and see how you react. Second time we came in with system lockdown + alot of large guns + hella amount of logistics. So your comment regarding that second time you were fighting 3-5 alliances is wrong. We might have more inexperienced pilots than LV or V, but we sure still have very good load of experienced players. We try hard and we have good FC's that lead us. I think the logistic and protection effort where we took O-W and DG, followed by other station systems kinda proves that. Chimps throw alot of poo in their own way. -- Chimaera Pact - Monkey say, Monkey do.
HeadHunta II	Posted - 2006.04.09 22:04:00 - [20] Originally by: Amerame Edited by: Amerame on 09/04/2006 20:53:17 Originally by: awebon Originally by: Fargas 2 kos well afaik it was demogod's deal with lv - kos leaving omist and goes to wc/sp/insm it is clear to anyone having brains that your role in this - cannon fodder you all are being used by lv and demogod. i am not LV's nor am i demogod's cannon fodder, we moved to wicked creek and have established ourselves there, that comment my friend was unjustified You were given that region, you did nothing to take it, but bring a few poses once V LV & co did the job. You are completely unable to defend it, you cannot even defend yourself against very small sized gang. You're just being used as cannon fodder and PoSes runner slaves. I feel sorry for you, you obviously don't have enough fighting experience nor funds to fight against the RA/FF-A gangs infestation in wicked creek, and are not getting any help to secure your space from your allies. Anyway XIII has had a lot of fun in WC and you guys sure have improved some in the last few weeks, but there is still a long way before you can be recognized as a serious military power, since you pretty much never even had enough people to face a single RA corporation. At least for V i can say: We had nothing to do with taking over Wicked Creek, that was KOS.We made it harder for RA to counter attack Wicked Creek again, since they had to fight on all fronts. Do not underestimate KOS, what they cant do with pvp they can do in logistics. And they are still on it to form a pvp part. No need to smack em down here. And about not helping them, we help them and they help us. If this is a try to put a wedge between the allies forces again...forget it. It wont work "-V- Vice President" "-V- Minister of Foreign affairs" "CEO Ascendancy-Inc."

Amerame	Posted - 2006.04.09 22:13:00 - [21] Originally by: MACTEP 4. -kos- this in general homeless..haulers \ low minerals miners ))) no respect no nap I don't think there is any ambiguity there.
Light Darkness	Posted - 2006.04.09 23:03:00 - [22] /me salutes to this post .o> MacTep 4tw P.S.: Your english is better then mine. Regards /LD -V-President -V-Fleet Command home.foni.net/~markusheinen/president.jpg[/img] Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Zigadenus	Posted - 2006.04.09 23:21:00 - [23] We love you Mactep. Your English is just fine. Respect. See you in space. ________________________________________________ Kyle > Why do you have to ask me all these complicated questions? Zerodragon > Dude, IÆm trying to save your setup from complete suckage.
IamBen	Posted - 2006.04.10 00:10:00 - [24] Maccy, you so funny
Uggster	Posted - 2006.04.10 00:40:00 - [25] The only thing wrong with what you have writtain (and not the way it is writtain) is that it shows that the RA have consistantly underestimated it's opponants. There could have been 2 or 3 times when you guys could have got the upper hand on one or more of the forces against you (like CHIMP in Detorid before all the others joined in or after the collalition forces lost 3 dreads in WC) but nothing seemed to happen, maybe it's down to the RA leadership or too many cearbears not wanting to stop plexing for a week to camp a system with enermies in. Whatever the reasons it no longer really matters now keep fighting, we will.
Evil Thug	Posted - 2006.04.10 06:33:00 - [26] newbs ----------------------------------------------- Logged in a system, next to you =)
Nebba Kenezzer	Posted - 2006.04.10 07:49:00 - [27] Originally by: Evil Thug newbs where's my lumpkin? Nebba - The Vocal Majority
Kriger	Posted - 2006.04.10 10:02:00 - [28] kudos Mactep... nice to see a clean sober post from a respected RA member. ½ [ITFB] + ½ Krigers GFX Shop +
DeWieKat	Posted - 2006.04.10 13:24:00 - [29] funny, reading awebons posts took me me back to those day when we had our vacation in omist. kos - u guys couldnt defend your region then, seems like u still cant do it now. any alliance that cannot defend its space self sufficiently does not deserve to live in 0.0 regards to RA/Lv/ -V- dew.
Aariss	Posted - 2006.04.10 15:45:00 - [30] I don't post on these forums cuz alot turn into flames but i must say MACTEP has done a wonderful job of summerizing the political structure in the eyes of a RA pilot that is also a very active pilot in pvp ... well done. Hope to see you in my cargo hold soon.. fly safe and into my lasers :P Some people are like slinkies... good for nothing but fun to push down the stairs



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