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Giblette Riddell
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Posted - 2003.09.16 09:07:00 -
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I think acceleration and turn rate are somewhat higher than they are meant to be. Our corps Hoarders turn and accelerate like shuttles.
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Production Manager, Innsmouth Shipping
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Marquise
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Posted - 2003.09.16 10:08:00 -
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Ssssssshhhhhhh :P
Damn, now everyone will be after our Uber-Hoarders 
Marquise
"In the end it all came down to one wonderfully simple principle: that happiness and vanity are incompatible."
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Blood Hawk
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Posted - 2003.09.16 10:10:00 -
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heh yeah, ur telling CCP this, because...? 
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Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2003.09.16 10:20:00 -
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I think the phrase "Ssshhhhhhhh!" springs to mind.
Can't believe you mentioned this. If they end up messing up my hoarder now i'll be damned annoyed.
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Golgrath
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Posted - 2003.09.16 11:19:00 -
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yeah mods pls lock this thread :)
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Chai N'Dorr
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Posted - 2003.09.16 13:28:00 -
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*takes a deep breath*
So, we should not talk about possible bugs so they might get fixed because we want something to whine about in a few months when CCP realises it is indeed not working as it should be and everyone has trained up the skill for this Indy so they can go "Boohoo CCP you ruined my game!?
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John Zeppe
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Posted - 2003.09.16 13:40:00 -
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If they "fix" the agility for the badger(s?)/other super-agile indys, they will be even closer to NO point of using them.
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2003.09.16 16:05:00 -
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If they "fix" the agility for the badger(s?)/other super-agile indys, they will be even closer to NO point of using them.
Um, Yeah. Pretty much everyone uses Bestowers anyways, so I don't see the point in nerfing Minmatar indys. You guys make some compromises in slots and capacity, and you get a more flyable indy in return. That seems fair.
What they need to do is give the Iteron III and IV some love. They suck (speaking as a Gallente who has gone to Bestowers and is in no rush to go back). Iterons are slow, and handle like a Freight train on a broken track.
BW
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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Darth Tom
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Posted - 2003.09.16 17:33:00 -
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And? Minmatar are supposed to have fast, agile ships. The Hoarder, and the Mammoth in particular, reflect this.
They have downsides in other areas.
Seriously, I see no problems with any of that.
Compare Mammoth vs. Bestower with relevant Indy skills at lvl 4. The Mammoth is an agile, smaller, and more flexible ship, and the Bestower is a cavernous slug.
You weigh your options and you make your choice 
Cheers,
TOM
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Igwilve
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Posted - 2003.09.16 18:18:00 -
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The Hoarder is a trade-off. Less cargo than a Bestower or Iteron V, but WAY more agile. The time you lose having to make more runs, you make up with less time spent in maneouvres.
And it looks cool. I love my Hoarder.
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Vicarrah
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Posted - 2003.09.16 18:37:00 -
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I call em "Rabid Badgers" 
Vicarrah
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Ka'loor
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Posted - 2003.09.16 23:01:00 -
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For realism reasons this is very bad........BUT CCP please leave it this way. The mighty Bestower is used everywhere, i only see iteorns, cause ppl wait for the iteron mkV or Mammoths due to this nice agility......so please leave the hoarder as it is, ganeplaywise its a fair deal, now all we need is some boost to the Iteron Mk.V to justify a month training time, just give it some special ability.....or another nice slot. they would increase the Iteron line nicely i think.......maybe even give all Iterons a nice ability......
Attack without mercy, until blood is gone, until life is gone, until the light is gone, unto the shadow itself.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.09.16 23:07:00 -
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The Hoarder is a trade-off. Less cargo than a Bestower or Iteron V, but WAY more agile. The time you lose having to make more runs, you make up with less time spent in maneouvres.
And it looks cool. I love my Hoarder.
I have no idea why, but the Minmatar Industrials make me think 'frigate/cruiser/battleship' far more when I look at them than the actual ships of those classes. Cept for the Rifter. That screams "Fighter" to me. Seriously, I'd kill to have the Tempest look like the Mammoth.
But back on topic. Minmatar ships are faster and more agile than other race ships. I just haven't figured out a way, other than maneuvering through roid belts better (which I do rarely), to capitalize on that for industrials. Agility/Speed means nada when even a lucky hit from a Tachyon Beam will hole your vessel. And if you're trying to juke and dodge the fire from one in a minmatar industrial...
Why haven't you left already?
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Valorian
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Posted - 2003.09.17 10:16:00 -
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Edited by: Valorian on 17/09/2003 10:17:48
Hmm, I think the Bestower is way too agile at indi skill 5, maybe it should have it's agility and speed worsened with each skill lvl to take into account the effect of increased cargo capacity? No? Well leave the Hoarder and Mammoth speed/agility alone.
I have noticed that the Hoarder in appearance is like 1/4 the size of a Bestower.
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Ka'loor
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Posted - 2003.09.17 12:21:00 -
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Hehe Valorian, id say 1/2 of the Bestower, but yes the Hoarder is a nice little fella. and i dont want to imagine a brick that handles even worse, what would it be, hei im flying a 100k diameter roid.. :) Keep the Matar indies the same
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