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Posted - 2014.02.18 14:02:00 -
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Hi
I wanted to post because I appreciate that the discussion is mostly very constructive and that's always nice to see.
To respond to a few specific things:
Quote:The history of this is that the dev team conceived the Nestor as a covert-capable ship in line with the other two sisters ships. They designed the hull with the ring for this reason and even wrote a ship description which referenced it (the one before the description that is currently on the Nestor, which was changed at the last minute).
This is false. The SOE line was originally conceived based on a few elements, none of which had to do with cloaks. The original idea actually existed before I got to CCP and the main goals at first were to combine lasers and drones for the most renewable weapon loadout possible so that long deployment would be easy and also to make a very flexible ship that would emulate the Gnosis due to its popularity but limited nature. As always we went through a lot of iteration and eventually arrived at the covert solution for the Astero and Stratios and felt good about that. The Nestor was a bit of a puzzle for awhile and eventually we settled on logistics as the main theme, which was an idea that showed up internally and in the community.
Quote:When pressed for an explanation, the dev team stated that with a covert cloak the Nestor would be overpowered and that it would compete with BLOPS in the same niche.
This is partly true. There is a fuzzy power barrier here that we don't want to cross, but as this thread is illustrating it can be difficult to pin down where that line should be. BLOPS came up because we felt if we started pushing into the black ops role with the Nestor before we had a black ops rebalance done we may have to go back and re-consider the Nestor afterwards.
Quote:I see no evidence for either position, so respectfully am looking to build support for them to be a little braver in their decision making, and return the Nestor to what it was clearly (to me) designed to be.
Again, it wasn't 'meant' to be a covert ship, and there is no shortage of bravery here, I assure you.
Quote:To be clear, the idea of a covops RR battleship was not mine, it was the Dev Team's. I am simply asking that they go through with that design decision and make the Nestor a little more aspirational, since at the moment it's fairly clear that it's an undesirable ship with a very few niche (and in my view, contrived) roles.
We may need to make more changes to get it established as the aspirational ship that we want it to be, but I still think a lot of the problems here are related to cost. If the Nestor was 500mil I doubt this discussion would be as common. We'll see how the new drops coming soon affect price and if we still have this problem we can look at making more changes.
Thanks again for a productive thread
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