Wow the neck-beard response time is improving.

I'm disappointed that I had to see your face when I opened this thread, rather than an attractive female avatar.

I'm disappointed that I had to see your face when I opened this thread, rather than an attractive female avatar.

Wow the neck-beard response time is improving.

Any women who want to play will just feel like the game is some sick male fantasy, where the first hint of a real woman (not the male 45% who use female avatars) is like a pack of sharks smelling blood.

The reason I posted what I did was because I didn't have the time, nor energy, to outline why this thread is so wrong.

First of all, on your personal level, you want an "attractive female" in the launcher. Let's leave aside all the problems I have with that quote for a second, and remember that this is *not real*. Is it pleasure you want? Or do denigrating pictures of women generally perk up your day?

Second, this game has a ridiculously male-biased playerbase. Yes, it is about spaceships and killing, so that will account for a bias because society's in-built sexism raises boys to play with guns and girls with dollhouses. But putting up random pictures of "attractive females" everywhere isn't exactly going to help address that imbalance. Any women who want to play will just feel like the game is some sick male fantasy, where the first hint of a real woman (not the male 45% who use female avatars) is like a pack of sharks smelling blood.

Third, as a general point, objectifying women like that is just unacceptable. Sexism is utterly wrong on any level, but I imagine you don't care too much about that sort of thing, so here's a powerful video that will give you the wake-up call you seem to so desparately need: http://damn.com/p/this-is-what-women-must-feel-likeeverday-experienced-by-a-man-must-watch/

This reply is still ridiculously incoherent and rushed, little more than a stream of consciousness. I hope you and others see why this thread is so bad now.

Why can't CCP at least put an attractive female in the launcher.

Every time I boot the launcher I get startled when I see this angry dude baring his teeth.

I'd prefer something more soothing when logging in than a chap with rabies.

Even from a marketing perspective, chics rule.

Why can't CCP at least put an attractive female in the launcher.

Every time I boot the launcher I get startled when I see this angry dude baring his teeth.

I'd prefer something more soothing when logging in than a chap with rabies.

Even from a marketing perspective, chics rule.

Posting in stealth "Neck Beards in NeX store" thread.

First of all, on your personal level, you want an "attractive female" in the launcher. Let's leave aside all the problems I have with that quote for a second, and remember that this is *not real*. Is it pleasure you want? Or do denigrating pictures of women generally perk up your day?

EVE has a launcher?

I feel that you're blowing what the OP said out of proportion. He simply said a picture of a woman instead of a picture of CCP guard. I dunno why you wouldn't want to stare at CCP Guards face all day, caress i- I digress. But you immediately assumed that he meant a picture of a woman showing some epic side boob, touching her bum and saying "degenerate me you sadistic, sick males. Your power fantasy is soooo big". At least that's what I assume your thinking about with a picture of a female, because I fail to see how an image of a female on the launcher would be degenerating unless it was similar to what I described.

I also, however, feel that any woman who enters a game and complains about there being too many men with female avatars are the kinds of players that wouldn't enjoy the game in the first place. Let's face it, only a relatively small number of people make it past the tutorials and become a long time EVE player, due to the small quirks they have with the game (too slow paced, general gameplay/overlay issues they may have that they can't get over, etc.). Due to this, I somehow can't think that a woman who enters a game and the forefront of her thought is "oh there better not be any male power fantasies in this" is missing the point of the game, and will get caught up with the little issues with the games.

Then I feel like you just had a rant about feminisim for the sake of having a rant. Maybe it was just pent up rage, but the OP here isn't some twisted individual like you're making him out to be. If he decides to not sneak some smooches on CCP Guards face before the game turns on, that's totally his choice.

Who asked for a denigrating picture of a woman? Or do you propose that all photographs of women are somehow denigrating, and we should never photograph them at all?

Does this include virtual women, who never existed?

I hear what you're saying, and I concede it's possible I have read a lot into what the OP said. My assumption is based off the fact that he's come on here, made a pretty unhelpful, short OP in GD (nothing new right? ) asking for an "attractive female". You seem to be a reasonable person: is my assumption that unreasonable?

Your point about the male fantasy being secondary to the general barrier to incoming EVE tutorialees is also a fair one. It's true that more people will be turned away because they found it too complicated in one aspect or another, but does that mean we can just use it as an excuse? I'd also have to disagree with your point that a feminist woman is more likely to not make it past the tutorials because they're too "caught up with the little issues" (also any level of misogyny =/= "little"!), but I'm not sure that's what you meant given your post was otherwise reasonable! Maybe I was having a bit of a pent-up rant - I'd also say that's a fair comment.

Moron LeBlade, more like.

The reason I posted what I did was because I didn't have the time, nor energy, to outline why this thread is so wrong.

First of all, on your personal level, you want an "attractive female" in the launcher. Let's leave aside all the problems I have with that quote for a second, and remember that this is *not real*. Is it pleasure you want? Or do denigrating pictures of women generally perk up your day?

Second, this game has a ridiculously male-biased playerbase. Yes, it is about spaceships and killing, so that will account for a bias because society's in-built sexism raises boys to play with guns and girls with dollhouses. But putting up random pictures of "attractive females" everywhere isn't exactly going to help address that imbalance. Any women who want to play will just feel like the game is some sick male fantasy, where the first hint of a real woman (not the male 45% who use female avatars) is like a pack of sharks smelling blood.

Third, as a general point, objectifying women like that is just unacceptable. Sexism is utterly wrong on any level, but I imagine you don't care too much about that sort of thing, so here's a powerful video that will give you the wake-up call you seem to so desparately need: http://damn.com/p/this-is-what-women-must-feel-likeeverday-experienced-by-a-man-must-watch/

This reply is still ridiculously incoherent and rushed, little more than a stream of consciousness. I hope you and others see why this thread is so bad now.

The reason I posted what I did was because I didn't have the time, nor energy, to outline why this thread is so wrong.

First of all, on your personal level, you want an "attractive female" in the launcher. Let's leave aside all the problems I have with that quote for a second, and remember that this is *not real*. Is it pleasure you want? Or do denigrating pictures of women generally perk up your day?

Second, this game has a ridiculously male-biased playerbase. Yes, it is about spaceships and killing, so that will account for a bias because society's in-built sexism raises boys to play with guns and girls with dollhouses. But putting up random pictures of "attractive females" everywhere isn't exactly going to help address that imbalance. Any women who want to play will just feel like the game is some sick male fantasy, where the first hint of a real woman (not the male 45% who use female avatars) is like a pack of sharks smelling blood.

Third, as a general point, objectifying women like that is just unacceptable. Sexism is utterly wrong on any level, but I imagine you don't care too much about that sort of thing, so here's a powerful video that will give you the wake-up call you seem to so desparately need: http://damn.com/p/this-is-what-women-must-feel-likeeverday-experienced-by-a-man-must-watch/

This reply is still ridiculously incoherent and rushed, little more than a stream of consciousness. I hope you and others see why this thread is so bad now.

Oh lord there are feminists in space?

I would like a female as well, maybe a girl kneeling on a bed bent over showing her support with the cute asian girl peace sign, or perhaps we can get a bisexual miley cyrus cougar who has an acne problem but wears a lot of makeup and still looks good to be on the launcher.

Being a feminist has nothing to do with whether you'll enjoy EVE online or not. Being a feminist has to do with whether you take actions that other people have taken in the game (such as creating a female avatar) and take offense from it.

The point he was making is that asking for an attractive woman in the launcher instead of a man is basically saying that the only use for a woman in that position is attractiveness. You're reducing her to being something pretty to look at. Bear in mind we'd also be talking about a real woman here, not some stupid CGI character made in a video game.