I suggest that if CCP were to simply significantly increase the number of low and null sec systems, as well as the number of routes to such systems, that it would do more to increase the number of players, the amount of their activity and the opportunities for players in low and null sec, than anything it has done in a very long time.

How long does it take you to get from your driveway to the end of your back yard?, assuming you don't live in a flat. Thats about how big a solar system is in EVE.

This is why players don't go to low and null as much because the systems are so small. Players balance up (1) the odds of being killed (2) the probable profit vs high sec if they're not killed (3) the loss if they are killed.

In a game where you can be probed down in less time than it takes to do what I asked you, to go from your driveway to your rear yard, the probability of being killed and the loss far outweigh any profits.

Rather than more systems and more entries, what I think would help would be 1) spawning around gate range increased to match new tackle methods (bubbles, dictors, recons, inties) 2) taking existing systems and utilizing their existing space to make them more like solar system size and less the size of your house.

I can go from VFK in Deklein to FD- in Syndicate and see perhaps half a dozen players along the way. Perhaps one of those might be non-blue to me. We do not need more space, we need more reasons for people to actually be in that space, using it.

Ideally fixes to make Null more desirable to live in (not just daytrip to) without it becoming a dangerous isk faucet. This won't draw the hardcore highseccers there, but it might at least get all the null players off their hisec alts and back "home." Hopefully it would encourage others who hadn't considered null before to give it a try as well.

Revitalization of null industry to make it actually desirable to mine and manufacture there is also desperately needed. It is a sucking chest wound that has been ignored for way too long. Adding slots to null outposts is welcome, but isn't sufficient and doesn't address the fundamental problem that the cost/benefit of manufacturing in null doesn't add up.

At the moment, the only reason to hold space in SOV null is for the ****-waving opportunities.

Low-sec needs to become safer. In it's current state PVE'ers see no reason to go there for PVE. As a result low-sec population is basically small-scale PVPers, people transporting stuff into hi/null, and FW PLEXers.

I would suggest bringing CONCORD into low-sec, with two key points:
1) Response time scales down much like in hi-sec; 0.4 might have a 25-30 second response time, where as 0.1 would be closer to a minute. Numbers can be debated, perhaps response times could be a bit longer or scale further.
2) CONCORD does not automatically blow up your ship. They are insanely strong and virtually impossible to kill, but if you warp out before they get you (or scram you) you're safe. They will chase you, but will leave you alone in certain areas; starbase, PVE complex, etc.

Without such a change people simply won't flock their for anything besides the 3 things mentioned at first.

When I was trying to compare things a while back, Vale of the Silent ( a region of 100 systems), typically had less than 1 person per system logged on, and less people in total than Osmon. Osmon and the surrounding systems (all people working the same agent), typically has twice as many people logged on, as a relatively large nullsec region.

ie it was pretty easy to find times where the region had 70 people, and Osmons constellation had 300.

I can go from VFK in Deklein to FD- in Syndicate and see perhaps half a dozen players along the way. Perhaps one of those might be non-blue to me. We do not need more space, we need more reasons for people to actually be in that space, using it.

Ideally fixes to make Null more desirable to live in (not just daytrip to) without it becoming a dangerous isk faucet. This won't draw the hardcore highseccers there, but it might at least get all the null players off their hisec alts and back "home." Hopefully it would encourage others who hadn't considered null before to give it a try as well.

Revitalization of null industry to make it actually desirable to mine and manufacture there is also desperately needed. It is a sucking chest wound that has been ignored for way too long. Adding slots to null outposts is welcome, but isn't sufficient and doesn't address the fundamental problem that the cost/benefit of manufacturing in null doesn't add up.

At the moment, the only reason to hold space in SOV null is for the ****-waving opportunities.

What does need to happen in Null, is a significant increase (Probably talking at least a factor of 10) in the number of players an individual system can support at once. Right now (And I believe the numbers on this based on my own experience.) most Null systems can perhaps support 2 players at once making income. The best might get up to 4 or 5 at once.

I can go from VFK in Deklein to FD- in Syndicate and see perhaps half a dozen players along the way. Perhaps one of those might be non-blue to me. We do not need more space, we need more reasons for people to actually be in that space, using it.

Ideally fixes to make Null more desirable to live in (not just daytrip to) without it becoming a dangerous isk faucet. This won't draw the hardcore highseccers there, but it might at least get all the null players off their hisec alts and back "home." Hopefully it would encourage others who hadn't considered null before to give it a try as well.

Revitalization of null industry to make it actually desirable to mine and manufacture there is also desperately needed. It is a sucking chest wound that has been ignored for way too long. Adding slots to null outposts is welcome, but isn't sufficient and doesn't address the fundamental problem that the cost/benefit of manufacturing in null doesn't add up.

At the moment, the only reason to hold space in SOV null is for the ****-waving opportunities.

Looks like we need.... DEEEP Space!

Then came that day when I agreed with one of the Goonswarm.

As a filthy highsec pubbie I can state the following:

There's rarely any reason for me to go to low aside from every now and then when I feel like doing some frigate PVP. Never even went to null. The only time I'm planning on actually going to null is when I train for a covops frigate to run data and relic sites in relative safety.

I run a trader alt so that guy's obviously always docked in a highsec station.

I also run a miner alt and going to low is just suicide for one of those.

So I guess I'm actually advocating the nerf of highsec?

Then players would be forced to go to low and null. Players would have to interact with other players and get escorts. EVE becomes more organic. It becomes more of a social game instead of solo carebears like myself running around in highsec.

Just no. Stick to high sec, you *****.. don't try to ruin the game for everyone who actually has a pair.

1. Low sec pvp can be found easily in FW which doesn't cause a concord response so it wouldn't ruin faction warfare (good)

2. It would ruin FW Awoxxing (good)

3. Piracy is dead anyway.

4. You can do the exact same thing in npc null sec as you can in low sec in regards to killing anyone everywhere anytime...