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Gildon
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Posted - 2003.09.16 17:57:00 -
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I was fighting in 0.0 space - and came up against a pirate corp who had a nice small armada in the same sector.
Basically they were camping stations/gates nicely. I engaged one of em and as the others warped to help.....this is where it gets uhm 'weird'.
Everything going fun/fine/good fight - I then figure 5 on 1 is bad odds and warp out. (using scanner - random moon)
I come out of warp, and whoosh i'm followed. Ok I think - maybe it was visible icon and my trails showed them where...
Pick another completely random moon from a planet NOT in visual range....warp away.
Whoosh incoming gang again. Wow these guys are good.
Happens 3 more times, now mind you I'm picking random and they show up right behind me. Usually 1 or 2, then the rest (I'm guessing using 'warp to' feature).
So I finally use my 'safe' bookmark in the middle of nowhere and that finally loses em.
Is there features within polaris to 'show' where players are ? Using an alt you could easily track/follow players which isn't something that is available to everyone.
I'm just wondering, since I'm not - but over the help channel it was explained that polaris members can.
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Gil
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.09.16 17:58:00 -
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They just follow your warp trails.
The blue glare your engines leave point right in the direction your warped to. if it's a moon or planet, they can just right click and follow you.
Polaris got nothing to do with it.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Igwilve
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Posted - 2003.09.16 18:01:00 -
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Though, that shouldn't work if you choose a planet far enough away that all of its moons appear to be in the same location as the planet. Then, all they'd know is you're visiting that system, but not which body.
Those safe bookmarks are a great idea. I try to have them for any system I visit frequently.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.09.16 18:03:00 -
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Though, that shouldn't work if you choose a planet far enough away that all of its moons appear to be in the same location as the planet. Then, all they'd know is you're visiting that system, but not which body.
True. You could just spread your forces so risk of losing your prey is minimised :)
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Gildon
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Posted - 2003.09.16 18:09:00 -
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I acknowledge the ability to see my trails - but by picking random moon on planets not visible, isn't it like lottery odds they show up?
4 out of 4 just seemed a bit odd.
Not accusing, this is purely questionable - if Polaris CAN indeed see this in sectors, then they need to not be allowed to have alts logged in at same time or something like that.
Any Polaris members available to answer?
G
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Jorev
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Posted - 2003.09.16 18:12:00 -
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Have you ever asked someone in jail if they were guilty?
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.09.16 18:15:00 -
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another good way to get away is to just keep warping until you run out of juice
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.09.16 18:19:00 -
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"I acknowledge the ability to see my trails - but by picking random moon on planets not visible, isn't it like lottery odds they show up?"
... What do you mean by "not visible"? The planets are much brighter and larger than the background stars, 'tis easy to spot them even without the icons over them.
And note something you wrote yourself:
"Happens 3 more times, now mind you I'm picking random and they show up right behind me. Usually 1 or 2, then the rest (I'm guessing using 'warp to' feature)."
Easy to split larger forces to check few possible spots at once, then as soon as one of the scouts gets in contact with you, warp the rest in... hardly any magic necessary here. :s
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Gildon
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Posted - 2003.09.16 18:22:00 -
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Jorev - I'm not asking IF they've done it. I'm just asking if this ability IS part of being Polaris. . . .
Perhaps there should be more visibility to it being possibly 'exploited'.
I would hope CCP would at least look at this and consider looking into it - to prevent it as much as possible.
Gil
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Gildon
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Posted - 2003.09.16 18:24:00 -
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Josephine - planets are the bright ones, but moon 7 on planet 6, then moon 3 on planet 1, then moon 1 on planet 4 etc....
Since the moons are not 'icon' visible - once I'd say 'lucky' - twice, 'Damn!'
3, 4 times I say 'uhm, hmmmmm what else could it be'
Easy to exploit if it exists, if it doesn't then there are some damn fine trail following pilots out there!
G
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.09.16 18:31:00 -
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Yes there are.
My gf had been chased by Fist and Jester a while back. She warped from moon to moon (many AU's apart) but they caught up with her at all times.
There are some bloody fine trail followers out there.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.09.16 18:31:00 -
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Why look for cheats first when logic should tell you they were just lucky?
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So I finally use my 'safe' bookmark in the middle of nowhere and that finally loses em.
Someone cheating would have followed you there (how would they know it's a bookmark in the middle of nowhere until they arrived). Somedays the dice come up 7. Somedays, snakeeyes.
Just play the game.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.09.16 18:35:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 16/09/2003 18:35:46
"Josephine - planets are the bright ones, but moon 7 on planet 6, then moon 3 on planet 1, then moon 1 on planet 4 etc...."
Well, that'd be where splitting the party comes in, non? You know the planet from the warp trails, you send parties to check it and the surrounding moons...
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Gildon
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Posted - 2003.09.16 18:36:00 -
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Logic should tell me ?
Yes - logic says 1st one - followed trails, 2nd one - MAYBE followed trails - 3rd 4th random moons.... logic says 'total luck' or 'something else'
I'm just asking the question if Polaris can 'see' where people are in space.
If they CAN - then my 'safe' bookmark is safe because it would only have 'coordinates' not 'Moon 7 planet 6'.
It's easy to close down this question - just some polaris member say "nope we can't"
But if it's "Yes we can" then I think someone should look into 'protecting' the integrity of the hunt.
Peace.
G
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.09.16 18:41:00 -
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"Logic should tell me ?
Yes - logic says 1st one - followed trails, 2nd one - MAYBE followed trails - 3rd 4th random moons.... logic says 'total luck' or 'something else'
I'm just asking the question if Polaris can 'see' where people are in space."
... Logic should tell you that if Polaris can indeed see where people are in space, they couldn't tell what moon you're hiding at before you finish your warp. Which in turn would make it impossible for the pirates to be 'right behind you' every time -- there would be delay of at least 2 warp times (yours, and then theirs)
Logic should also tell 'tis quite bad title for a thread if you're indeed only asking about Polaris' ability, but that's another story....
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Jack Hayden
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Posted - 2003.09.16 18:45:00 -
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Why do people so often assume faul play and misuse of powers? I remember my own days as a game admin, the amount of accusations I had to listen to.
CCP keep them on a tight leash, trust me, anything else would be foolish.
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SavX
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Posted - 2003.09.16 18:48:00 -
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I once rolled the number 3 on a dice 436 times in a row before getting a 5. There is something called "luck".
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.09.16 18:53:00 -
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Logic should tell me ?
Yes - logic says 1st one - followed trails, 2nd one - MAYBE followed trails - 3rd 4th random moons.... logic says 'total luck' or 'something else'
I'm just asking the question if Polaris can 'see' where people are in space.
If they CAN - then my 'safe' bookmark is safe because it would only have 'coordinates' not 'Moon 7 planet 6'.
It's easy to close down this question - just some polaris member say "nope we can't"
But if it's "Yes we can" then I think someone should look into 'protecting' the integrity of the hunt.
Peace.
G
You're a bit too paranoid. Or maybe not paranoid enough.
When I go to lose pursuit, I re-enter warp almost as soon as I leave it. Multiple times. There are people that are very skilled at following people through warp.
I assume I need to add as many different warps in as much succession as possible to ditch any chance of pursuit. I don't assume they cheat.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Glamdring
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Posted - 2003.09.16 19:00:00 -
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This is not a Polaris ability. Polaris actually has very few tools that can be used in game. Volunteers in most games usually have fewer abilities than players accuse them of exploiting with.
The problem of people being able to follow you will be fixed in the upcoming patch which is scheduled to be put into production tomorrow. In the meantime I would suggest using your safe bookmark if you are followed.
Glamdring
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Jorev
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Posted - 2003.09.16 19:03:00 -
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Why do people so often assume faul play and misuse of powers? I remember my own days as a game admin, the amount of accusations I had to listen to.
CCP keep them on a tight leash, trust me, anything else would be foolish.
Hmm, maybe because we have had a factual case of a CCP employee using a CCP account to hand out a Miner V laser, and CCP not discovering it until a week later when the player corp that possessed the laser, made it public knowledge.
Your assumption that CCP keeps staff on a tight leash is obviously incorrect.
Foolish is creating situations that are a conflict of interest and a high probability of abuse of power such as enlisting players as pseudo staff.
Foolish is allowing staff to be members of player corps where friendships form and human nature kicks in and favoritism ensues.
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