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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.04.13 14:16:00 -
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Power blocks have shifted and old alliegences are broken and new ones formed, 0.0 had become stagnated and with the creation of a superpower like BoB others had to come together to survive, both in terms of facing conflict and also keeping conflict going.
Being able to build up 0.0 so it has the facilites of empire would be a good thing. Outposts are the start however being able to upgrade them and with the ability to claim sov over a constellation and possibly having some benfits for doing so the game will get better.
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2006.04.13 14:18:00 -
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Well small lots of small alliances are better than a few big oens that control a large ammount of space but not use 90% of it and wont allow others in to use it
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Scagga Laebetrovo
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Posted - 2006.04.13 14:35:00 -
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Fragmentations can occur for the reasons given, i.e. ppl wanting to shift, defeat and power vacuums etc.
However personal reasons, ppl wanting their own power can contribute to this as well. I also agree with the idea that the influx of players from empire space into 0.0 will be making an impact, and I think it is better that we have some division of power from the oligarchs!
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Traiben Mightius
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Posted - 2006.04.13 14:50:00 -
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 Originally by: Sun Ra
Well small lots of small alliances are better than a few big oens that control a large ammount of space but not use 90% of it and wont allow others in to use it
QFT
IMO, this has been a long time coming. A couple of systems, well-defended by the core of an alliances' member-base, would be very profitable and extremely active. You take a big risk in "having all your eggs in one basket", but it allows you to focus your resources rather than spending your time insta-ing around to the choke points 20-jumps away. Could make for more interesting fights as well... two aliiances sort of grow into each other as they claim one system at a time. Their resources would be very close together for fast and constant action.
Sounds like a hoot! 
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Cause CEO
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Posted - 2006.04.13 15:02:00 -
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Don't you get it? There's just some spring cleaning going on in EVE 
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2006.04.13 15:45:00 -
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It's not a trend.
The political lanscape of Eve (certainly in the north) has been irrevocably changed by first the disbanding of ATUK & BoB's subsequent standings reset.
The status quo that held everyone in place has been upended, and so a new era ( ) begins in the north.
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Manus Ghostface
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Posted - 2006.04.13 16:00:00 -
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As a long time veteran of online games (back to Tw2002 in dialup days muahaha), I see it as a natural progression. Powers rise and fall, split, combine and endless other permutations. What is good in Eve, is that there are many mechanisms for change. In other online games, a player corp/guild gets a lead, then uses that to cull the best players from other player corp/guilds, but is not attackable or susceptible to dismantling. In Eve, if a corp makes enough enemies, they can be slowly picked apart or reduced in power, a new power can arise, or many, many other changes of fate.
I just came back from a long time away, and when I left people were saying Mo0 was invincible, that the 0.0 alliances would lock down nonempire space, and that we were headed for a boring statis. Look at all the changes from the past 2 years, it's glorious in its own right imo, and 2 more years from now it will probably also be completely different. CCP has handled this game right, and it has legs to keep running for a good long time.
That city is well fortified which has a wall of men instead of brick.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.04.13 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Last time I checked you weren't in a position to be thinking.
lol wtf?!?
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Drunk Driver
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Posted - 2006.04.13 16:27:00 -
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What's my take on it?
Two I guess.
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Zzazzt
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Posted - 2006.04.13 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Manus Ghostface
when I left people were saying Mo0 was invincible, that the 0.0 alliances would lock down nonempire space, and that we were headed for a boring statis. Look at all the changes from the past 2 years, it's glorious in its own right imo, and 2 more years from now it will probably also be completely different. CCP has handled this game right, and it has legs to keep running for a good long time.
QFT
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Edheler
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Posted - 2006.04.13 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Ritt Serras
(Where, in my opinion, carebears belong. If you're not going to fight for the resources in 0.0 then go the hell home.)
Personally, I view your opinion as one of the problem attitudes of 0.0. All players who contribute to their corporations betterment can make a difference in 0.0. Yes, I try to convince the non-PvPers to come on out in a frigate and to get a jump clone so they are not risking their implants. Sometimes I convert them to the dark side, sometimes not. If they contribute to bettering the corporations 0.0 position then they are a valuable and valued member. PvP isn't something everyone enjoys.
If they just npc and mine for their personal benefit and never help the corporation achieve our larger goals, thats a different story entirely. Those people, don't last for long in Quintessential at least.
Edheler
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Manus Ghostface
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Posted - 2006.04.13 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Edheler
Originally by: Ritt Serras
(Where, in my opinion, carebears belong. If you're not going to fight for the resources in 0.0 then go the hell home.)
Personally, I view your opinion as one of the problem attitudes of 0.0. All players who contribute to their corporations betterment can make a difference in 0.0. Yes, I try to convince the non-PvPers to come on out in a frigate and to get a jump clone so they are not risking their implants. Sometimes I convert them to the dark side, sometimes not. If they contribute to bettering the corporations 0.0 position then they are a valuable and valued member. PvP isn't something everyone enjoys.
If they just npc and mine for their personal benefit and never help the corporation achieve our larger goals, thats a different story entirely. Those people, don't last for long in Quintessential at least.
Edheler
Quintessential CEO
Even the Mongol Horde had people dedicated to making arrows and spears. Best to keep the isk inhouse with domestic production than flowing out to who knows where and making someone else stronger.
That city is well fortified which has a wall of men instead of brick.
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Francis Verdictio
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Posted - 2006.04.13 17:55:00 -
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I agree with the two previous posters: Even those serve who build and mine.
An alliance in 0.0 cannot survive without a strong industrial base, which means miners and builders. Those miners and builders may be (and often are) capable PVP-ers, but that is not their only motivation.
What is behind the current alliance mixing and matching, well, some of it was because people in older alliances made some radical decisions, and some of it (creation of NFC and D2) was the reaction of other locals to those decisions. When the balance of power shifts, new entities must take place of the old ones.
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TylerJames
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Posted - 2006.04.13 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: Boonaki
I really wish we could say we were responsible for it. But we know it's not true. I do think we had some part of it.
How could you possibly know what we think?
Last time I checked you weren't in a position to be thinking.
dbp
I read this and thought..."DB is either his daddy or Boonaki is his *****".....and I am in a posistion to be thinking. Nothing personal....just struck me as a little controlling.
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Raid
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Posted - 2006.04.13 19:12:00 -
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New alliance names.. mostly the same members with some additions and subtractions.
Isnt the first time this has happened. Only difference is everyone is posting about it whereas a year or two ago that wasnt the case.
Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar
Its a rare dialect called "dou'chay'ba'gh"... frequently used by members of this forum community. I was under the assumption you spoke it
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2006.04.13 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: xenorx
I also think that a lot of ppl are just getting sick of POS wars.
And we have a winnar ladies and gents!
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2006.04.13 21:13:00 -
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Edited by: Cummilla on 13/04/2006 21:13:54
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: DB Preacher
Last time I checked you weren't in a position to be thinking.
lol wtf?!?
Just BoB arrogance. Pay it no mind.
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Mistress Suffering
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Posted - 2006.04.13 21:18:00 -
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People are a pain in the butt to get to play nice together. The larger the group, the more work it takes to make it function effectively.
You'll see guilds rise and fall in every game on a very regular basis. Those that last for years and years, do so because of dedicated and effective leadership. There is always a wealth of people ready to jump in and fill the void, but there are extremely few who do it well.
In other words, same old same old.
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