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Antwon Stylez	Posted - 2006.04.13 18:09:00 - [1] I am training Cruiser lvl 5 and i don't know weather im going to train for a Curse or a Zealot first. I'm 100% PvP, looking for a ship that would do good in small fleets and a little solo. I am leaning towards the Curse because of its diversity and i love NOS. However i would save myself about a month in training if i went to a Zealot because i dont have drone skills and i have weapon upgrades 5. But don't forget the main idea (Mini fleet or solo)
Sjannapaul	Posted - 2006.04.13 18:11:00 - [2] zealot
Foomanshoe	Posted - 2006.04.13 18:13:00 - [3] Curse, half the price and twice as deadly. _______________________________________________ Deadspace For Dead space! Originally by: Oveur To the nerfmobile!
Slink Grinsdikild	Posted - 2006.04.13 18:14:00 - [4] Its not like you need tons of SP to use Nosferatu, and the prerequisites for Recons is nice to have anyways. (Sig Analysis V etc.) So train for both
beautyispain	Posted - 2006.04.13 18:21:00 - [5] Zealot first (given that you already have gunnary skills), Curse later. It is no fun without lvl 5 recon, good ew skills and good drone skills anyways. Might as well use a geddon with noses and drones for same even better results and less price if you dont have those skill up.
Yaro	Posted - 2006.04.13 18:22:00 - [6] Curse will kill a zealot enytime...without any problems...
Yaro	Posted - 2006.04.13 18:24:00 - [7] I used to fly a zealot...but curse is lethal...faaaaar more lethal then a zealot...it drains over 300 cap every 6 seconds...from over 30k range...jamms the targed and boom...
kessah	Posted - 2006.04.13 18:58:00 - [8] You can pick a curse up for under a ton, i dont even wana guess with a zealot now. Train for Curse imho, but tbh t2 ships all of them except ceptors and some AF's are totally overpriced. So i personally just used t1 latly unless you can afford the isk loss if you lose it. tbh ive found that the curse and pilgrim are the only ships t2 i would pay for, theres ALOT of small\solo gangs that use full nos t1 ships, a zealot just wouldnt survive these days it would be sucked dry before you got off several volleys. -------------------------------------------------------- http://www.eve-files.com/media/0604/Forever_pirate.wmv[/ur
Katsumoto	Posted - 2006.04.13 19:46:00 - [9] Curse is alot more fun than the zealot. Curse has EW Tracking disruptor bonus that cripples zealots Nos Drones Only thing to be scared about in a curse is another curse/drone ship. Also EW ships, but thinking about it, all ships fear EW. Not much of a problem in a curse tho because of its sensor strength. "White light. Doo doo too doo. alcohol, alcohol, alcohol, white light!"
R Dan	Posted - 2006.04.13 19:52:00 - [10] Edited by: R Dan on 13/04/2006 19:52:48 no! go join the ranks of the zealot users :P go cue for 6 months :) dont let people know my beloved curse is better! :P I will save you, but make sure you bring beer - Wrangler and cAKe - Imaran I thought it was bREe, omgi'mgivingawaymodroomsecwetsftl - Cortes when come back ... bring PIE. Me like PIE. -Capsicum
Laythun	Posted - 2006.04.13 19:57:00 - [11] Edited by: Laythun on 13/04/2006 19:56:58 Originally by: Yaro Curse will kill a zealot enytime...without any problems... so true. my setup drains over 600.. --------------------------------------------- If im flaming or not contributing im sorry, but im trying to get into th [23]
xenorx	Posted - 2006.04.13 20:08:00 - [12] Originally by: R Dan Edited by: R Dan on 13/04/2006 19:52:48 no! go join the ranks of the zealot users :P go cue for 6 months :) dont let people know my beloved curse is better! :P QFT The Curse and Pilgrim sux. Dont train for them. Not worth it. Now move along there is nothing to see here. No one can hear you scream in space, so STFU and die already.
Yaro	Posted - 2006.04.13 20:37:00 - [13] my setup drains over 600 ???? how the hell do u achieve this ?????
lofty29	Posted - 2006.04.13 20:48:00 - [14] Originally by: Yaro my setup drains over 600 ???? how the hell do u achieve this ????? Laythun's a rich mofo with a full faction fitting on his --------------------------- Originally by: Oveur I see boobies! \o/
Necrologic	Posted - 2006.04.13 21:16:00 - [15] curse clap
Slink Grinsdikild	Posted - 2006.04.13 21:58:00 - [16] Edited by: Slink Grinsdikild on 13/04/2006 21:59:08 Originally by: Yaro my setup drains over 600 ???? how the hell do u achieve this ????? With them drain bonuses, Neuts > Nos.. 2 Neuts/1 Nos + Cap Injector ftw Oh and, Necro. Your signature brings memories flooding back. D2 PKing ftw
Antwon Stylez	Posted - 2006.04.14 00:40:00 - [17] thanks for the replys :D Curse sounds alot more fun to use just will take a little more to train.
OrangeAfroMan	Posted - 2006.04.14 00:45:00 - [18] Originally by: Yaro Curse will kill a zealot enytime...without any problems... How does that make ANY difference whatsoever???? 1v1ing the ships together is completely irrelivent to which is better overall and in different roles, so please, lets everyone stop saying that x ship will own y ship when they arent even in the same class. BTW go with the Zealot :) Originally by: Slink Grinsdikild CAPS LOCK IS THE CRUISE CONTROL FOR AWESOME
Dash Ripcock	Posted - 2006.04.14 01:27:00 - [19] A Curse will destroy a Zealot. Completely and utterly. That said - the Zealot is a simply awesome ship to have in a gang. Quick and flexible with a big punch, I take my Zealot out for more general operations and the Curse for more specialised situations. Save The Deimos
Mahavy Seth	Posted - 2006.04.14 21:32:00 - [20] Edited by: Mahavy Seth on 14/04/2006 21:32:31 I am not very expert yet... but I have doubt that a Curse can kill a zealot so easly...
Krulla	Posted - 2006.04.14 21:37:00 - [21] Originally by: Mahavy Seth Edited by: Mahavy Seth on 14/04/2006 21:32:31 I am not very expert yet... but I have doubt that a Curse can kill a zealot so easly... Well.. the Curse will have emptied the Zealot's cap in 2-3 cycles of the nosferatu.. so... Respect the Domi. Or else. SIG HIJACK!!11 RAWRR!!1- IMMY
KilROCK	Posted - 2006.04.14 21:37:00 - [22] Originally by: Mahavy Seth Edited by: Mahavy Seth on 14/04/2006 21:32:31 I am not very expert yet... but I have doubt that a Curse can kill a zealot so easly... Tracking disruptor, already zealot start to struggle, being able to nos it down in 12 second to 0 cap. Dead Zealot. Originally by: KilROCK I make sigs, evemail me if interested.
Mahavy Seth	Posted - 2006.04.14 21:43:00 - [23] Originally by: Krulla Originally by: Mahavy Seth Edited by: Mahavy Seth on 14/04/2006 21:32:31 I am not very expert yet... but I have doubt that a Curse can kill a zealot so easly... Well.. the Curse will have emptied the Zealot's cap in 2-3 cycles of the nosferatu.. so... A Curse equipped with 4 NOS (you need at least 1 turret for deal real damage), at maximized skills drain 288 Cap every 6 seconds... A Zealot with Medium Cap Booster II get 800 Cap every 15 seconds... also, the zealot have enought low slots to fit a very good armor tanking (passive resistences) and 2 Capacitor Relay... It is only theory yeah, and personally I think that the curse have the upper hand, cause even the jammer you can fit in a curse... but it is not a sure win... Consider also that if you are away, zealot can warp away... if you are close, how much time the zealot need to break your tank with T2 Crystals and skill maximized?
Krulla	Posted - 2006.04.14 21:54:00 - [24] Originally by: Mahavy Seth Originally by: Krulla Originally by: Mahavy Seth Edited by: Mahavy Seth on 14/04/2006 21:32:31 I am not very expert yet... but I have doubt that a Curse can kill a zealot so easly... Well.. the Curse will have emptied the Zealot's cap in 2-3 cycles of the nosferatu.. so... A Curse equipped with 4 NOS (you need at least 1 turret for deal real damage), at maximized skills drain 288 Cap every 6 seconds... A Zealot with Medium Cap Booster II get 800 Cap every 15 seconds... also, the zealot have enought low slots to fit a very good armor tanking (passive resistences) and 2 Capacitor Relay... It is only theory yeah, and personally I think that the curse have the upper hand, cause even the jammer you can fit in a curse... but it is not a sure win... Consider also that if you are away, zealot can warp away... if you are close, how much time the zealot need to break your tank with T2 Crystals and skill maximized? Why do you need a turret? Drones ftw. Also, most zealots don't fit cap boosters or tanks, but full gank setups. This makes them even easier to kill. Respect the Domi. Or else. SIG HIJACK!!11 RAWRR!!1- IMMY
Mahavy Seth	Posted - 2006.04.14 21:59:00 - [25] Originally by: Krulla Originally by: Mahavy Seth Originally by: Krulla Originally by: Mahavy Seth Edited by: Mahavy Seth on 14/04/2006 21:32:31 I am not very expert yet... but I have doubt that a Curse can kill a zealot so easly... Well.. the Curse will have emptied the Zealot's cap in 2-3 cycles of the nosferatu.. so... A Curse equipped with 4 NOS (you need at least 1 turret for deal real damage), at maximized skills drain 288 Cap every 6 seconds... A Zealot with Medium Cap Booster II get 800 Cap every 15 seconds... also, the zealot have enought low slots to fit a very good armor tanking (passive resistences) and 2 Capacitor Relay... It is only theory yeah, and personally I think that the curse have the upper hand, cause even the jammer you can fit in a curse... but it is not a sure win... Consider also that if you are away, zealot can warp away... if you are close, how much time the zealot need to break your tank with T2 Crystals and skill maximized? Why do you need a turret? Drones ftw. Also, most zealots don't fit cap boosters or tanks, but full gank setups. This makes them even easier to kill. Well, setup is a personal thing... if someone make a total gank sniper tempest and then get killed by 2 interceptors, this not mean that the tempest is ****... Also, consider the scenarios... we are talking like if 2 pilots meet in an arena and fight 1vs1 zealot vs curse... but this is an unlike scenario... Drone can be destroyed (and after that you are unarmed), and a 5 NOS setup mean that you fly in a gang... cause if you go alone with drone and NOS only, pray to meet just 1 enemy at a time... (you cannot even NPC).. 5 NOS setuop (but even 4 NOS setup) seem a Specialized Gang setup... talk solo... in a gang a zealot can be fitted even better for counter the NOS.
fairimear	Posted - 2006.04.14 22:11:00 - [26] both, zealot first
Agent2 Holtze	Posted - 2006.04.14 22:40:00 - [27] Originally by: Yaro my setup drains over 600 ???? how the hell do u achieve this ????? neutralizers =) @ recon lvl 4 you drain 63 cap per 6 sec with a regular nos With Corpum A it's a bit lower as they got longer range, but lower nos amount.
Sku1ly	Posted - 2006.04.15 01:31:00 - [28] I don't like the curse. Please don't buy them. STK-S Website
nahtoh	Posted - 2006.04.15 01:43:00 - [29] Originally by: Mahavy Seth Originally by: Krulla Originally by: Mahavy Seth Edited by: Mahavy Seth on 14/04/2006 21:32:31 I am not very expert yet... but I have doubt that a Curse can kill a zealot so easly... Well.. the Curse will have emptied the Zealot's cap in 2-3 cycles of the nosferatu.. so... A Curse equipped with 4 NOS (you need at least 1 turret for deal real damage), at maximized skills drain 288 Cap every 6 seconds... A Zealot with Medium Cap Booster II get 800 Cap every 15 seconds... also, the zealot have enought low slots to fit a very good armor tanking (passive resistences) and 2 Capacitor Relay... It is only theory yeah, and personally I think that the curse have the upper hand, cause even the jammer you can fit in a curse... but it is not a sure win... Consider also that if you are away, zealot can warp away... if you are close, how much time the zealot need to break your tank with T2 Crystals and skill maximized? Fly with a Gal recon lachsis and watch his locking range fall through the floor ;). I reckon a couple of recons in a gang of varied types will be a real nasty handful ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Hast	Posted - 2006.04.15 01:46:00 - [30] train for a zealot so curse prices stay low I cheat in poker

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