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Detaitiv	Posted - 2006.04.15 13:46:00 - [31] 50 bil. God damn, I hope I've done my math right.
Detaitiv	Posted - 2006.04.15 13:47:00 - [32] Just disqualify anyome who breaks the rules. In fact just disqualify everyone who hasn't put a bid in and your troubles will be over.
Unrah	Posted - 2006.04.15 13:48:00 - [33] Originally by: Archmage Raistlin 4 I have been advised to put in a reserve by someone I trust as I have made the auction to end too quickly. 5 Is that reserve already met? If not how much is it, or is it one of those "secret" reserves?
Archmage Raistlin	Posted - 2006.04.15 13:57:00 - [34] Will say when reserve is met
Pooooottroto Swapo	Posted - 2006.04.15 14:02:00 - [35] 50bil not enough for something you don't wanna use? lolz..

Jacques Archambault	Posted - 2006.04.15 14:26:00 - [36] Thread cleaned. Please only post if you are making bid, or if you have a question for the seller. All other posts will be deleted, particularly those hijacking the thread and bringing it off topic. -Jacques' forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website! Want to be an EVE-Online forum moderator? click here!

Detaitiv	Posted - 2006.04.15 14:27:00 - [37] Boo hiss. I hate hidden reserves. Makes bidding feel like a waste of time until you mention we hit it. Post reserve and buyout already, even if the buyout may seem a bit sick.
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.15 14:30:00 - [38] I advise posting reserve if possible. This will make the process much more "unpleasant" for buyers and will assure somebody actually hits your target minimum price. Thanks _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Cosmo Raata	Posted - 2006.04.15 14:35:00 - [39] Last I checked, bpos tend to sell for what they make in isk per year. Not going to do the math & spoil it for potential buyers, but pls, I dont want to hear people whining about how much it is, etc. This is one if not the best bpo in game atm.
Archmage Raistlin	Posted - 2006.04.15 14:42:00 - [40] Reserve is not really important as if it isnt far from it then would prob sell. But as for a Buyout How can you put a price on something no one knows what its worth.If I put too much then I am being greedy if I put too little then Im being a Idiot and everyone will have there idea of what the ideal price is and it wont be the same for 2 people
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.15 14:56:00 - [41] Archmage, as I remarked in my personal mail and in convo the other day... The real value of this bpo is beyond what a single entity or even a group of people can gather together. To gather this much, it is necessary to sell off assets in 'fire sale' style, well under market value of items. If one had more time and knew reserve price, one could take their time to sell items at their real value.... Unfortunately, not knowing reserve and not being reasonably sure about the auction outcome, one would not go thru this procvess only to find himself not obtaining the BPO in the end due to some unrealistics reserve price. I am only asking for it as I need to see if I should be going thru the effort of sacrificing billions of ISK by fire selling other assets to gather funds for this purchase. Nobody carries 50b+ in their wallets in ISK since sitting ISK are depreciating ISK (everyone invests most of their money to make more ISK). I hope the reasoning above is sensible enough to establish reserve price or admitting you have no idea, which is fine. If the latter is true, you should just say there is no reserve and you WILL sell to whoever higher bidder is. Thanks. _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Archmage Raistlin	Posted - 2006.04.15 15:00:00 - [42] How can I sell for lump plus income. I have no gaurentee that in 2 weeks time the buyer just doesnt go HA HA you mug Bye Bye to your BPo at X ammount
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.15 15:15:00 - [43] Would it be possible to state your reserve please. This will determine if I want to keep on bidding and going thru the motion of gathering funds or just let it go since it will not be possible to gather this much anyways... Or just state you will sell at top price offered here. Thanks _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Tenebron	Posted - 2006.04.15 15:16:00 - [44] Naal's reasoning is valid on all counts and posting youre reserve will only beneffit you in this auction. Lets assume for a moment that youre reserve is 300 bil. A potential buyer will look at his wallet which only shows 200 bil and quick sell some of his bpos to be able at least to meet youre 300 bil reserve + a bit more on top of it and try his luck bidding in the auction. Note: the numbers are purely fictional
Grash Freedom	Posted - 2006.04.15 15:20:00 - [45] Originally by: Archmage Raistlin How can I sell for lump plus income. I have no gaurentee that in 2 weeks time the buyer just doesnt go HA HA you mug Bye Bye to your BPo at X ammount You have a point, only if i had the cash but as naal said, it's the biggest mistake to keep large ammounts of isk in your wallet, trust comes upon friendship only, what a lot have probably asked you already to do is a risk you have to take, risk=reward This auction will end at 80-90 bils, but your bpo worth a lot more Who to trust is a hard question, its up to you I have 3 people in my mind that i can vouche for them even without knowing them or be friend with, and no they are not in my corp Best of luck and i hope your bpo ends to the right hands and for the proper isks
Traxman	Posted - 2006.04.15 15:22:00 - [46] Originally by: Cosmo Raata Last I checked, bpos tend to sell for what they make in isk per year. Not going to do the math & spoil it for potential buyers, but pls, I dont want to hear people whining about how much it is, etc. This is one if not the best bpo in game atm. So you are saying the Hulk BPO is worth 125b then I guess you really dont know what you are talking about. I dont see any annouced that there is_ a hidden reserve, but i guess thats hidden aswell Free bump for a nice bpo tho )
The Enslaver	Posted - 2006.04.15 15:29:00 - [47] The value of such BPO's is irrelevent; no BPO will go for too much above 50-60bn because of the simple fact that nobody is stupid enough to keep that amount of assets in isk... Chant its value at 90-125bn all you want; nobody has that much isk available in such a short period. -------- Shinra Director
Archmage Raistlin	Posted - 2006.04.15 15:36:00 - [48] Reserve is 75 Bill. If you want a Buyout its 125 Bill a Thanatos and 20 fighters. Now will come all the slagging off about unrealisic prices and being greedy and all the rest of the info. Now going off line and wont be back on till Monday as I have had enough off the whole god damn thing
Kari Moltov	Posted - 2006.04.15 15:37:00 - [49] 50.2
Traxman	Posted - 2006.04.15 15:43:00 - [50] Thank you for reveling the reserve, Then i bid 74.8b isk and yes, im very_ valid to anyone that asks.
Kari Moltov	Posted - 2006.04.15 15:47:00 - [51] Curse that 11bn I gave you
TornSoul	Posted - 2006.04.15 16:05:00 - [52] Originally by: The Enslaver The value of such BPO's is irrelevent; no BPO will go for too much above 50-60bn because of the simple fact that nobody is stupid enough to keep that amount of assets in isk... Chant its value at 90-125bn all you want; nobody has that much isk available in such a short period. The BMBE begs to differ And will gladly make 50B ISK available BIG Lottery [u
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.15 16:24:00 - [53] Originally by: TornSoul Originally by: The Enslaver The value of such BPO's is irrelevent; no BPO will go for too much above 50-60bn because of the simple fact that nobody is stupid enough to keep that amount of assets in isk... Chant its value at 90-125bn all you want; nobody has that much isk available in such a short period. The BMBE begs to differ And will gladly make 50B ISK available You situation is a bit different since you just made a business out of having actual ISK in your wallet. Plus once you loan ISK out (eg. invest), you will also have no ISK in wallet (but loanee's assets) so you will end up in the same bin as rest of us. _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Edoo	Posted - 2006.04.15 16:50:00 - [54] 75 bil
Pooooottroto Swapo	Posted - 2006.04.15 16:52:00 - [55] Originally by: The Enslaver The value of such BPO's is irrelevent; no BPO will go for too much above 50-60bn because of the simple fact that nobody is stupid enough to keep that amount of assets in isk... Chant its value at 90-125bn all you want; nobody has that much isk available in such a short period. oo **** did someone just bid 75? :S
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.15 16:56:00 - [56] Ok, how many people are bidding here basing on a assumption they will get loan from BIG? _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Karrimdra	Posted - 2006.04.15 17:14:00 - [57] Originally by: Naal Morno Ok, how many people are bidding here basing on a assumption they will get loan from BIG? so theres 3 winners in any outcome of this auction by th elooks of things... the seller, the buyer and BIG's big bunch of bankers? :D im likining this, its like watching a soap. From nothing to something in just one corp!
Kari Moltov	Posted - 2006.04.15 17:16:00 - [58] I think Trax's bid is valid.
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.15 17:45:00 - [59] One thing is certain, I will be working towards establishing Bank myself. _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Traxman	Posted - 2006.04.15 18:38:00 - [60] And you think you are alone Naal about that

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