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Archmage Raistlin	Posted - 2006.04.14 22:37:00 - [1] Edited by: Archmage Raistlin on 14/04/2006 22:38:35 For Sale 1 Hulk BPo. I dont use BPs so its up for sale Serious Bids only. Auction to end at 12 noon GMT on Monday 17th April. 10 minute sniper rule. Starting Bid is 20 Billion Isk in Increments of 200 million isk There is no Buyout so Dont ask and no in game bidding anymore. Good Luck and Good Bidding
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.14 22:38:00 - [2] 45bil _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
9854365	Posted - 2006.04.14 23:14:00 - [3] If I only had the isk.
jarack	Posted - 2006.04.14 23:17:00 - [4] I can vouch that the BPO is a real one, he showed it me in a private convo
Dirty Deeds	Posted - 2006.04.14 23:37:00 - [5] 45.2
jarack	Posted - 2006.04.14 23:39:00 - [6] i suggest you cancel out dirty deeds from auctions as he is a scammer
Dirty Deeds	Posted - 2006.04.14 23:43:00 - [7] Originally by: jarack i suggest you cancel out dirty deeds from auctions as he is a scammer **** off you bit ch i have that kind of isk and im not a scammer i can prove you that have that isk
voogru	Posted - 2006.04.14 23:53:00 - [8] Originally by: jarack i suggest you cancel out dirty deeds from auctions as he is a scammer I support this statement :)
Aeaus	Posted - 2006.04.14 23:55:00 - [9] Originally by: voogru Originally by: jarack i suggest you cancel out dirty deeds from auctions as he is a scammer I support this statement :) I support voogru, and have heard from several close people that Dirty Deeds is infact somebody that will try to make as much isk off you as possible, including scamming attempts.
Amthrianius	Posted - 2006.04.14 23:58:00 - [10] Originally by: voogru Edited by: voogru on 14/04/2006 23:55:12 Originally by: jarack i suggest you cancel out dirty deeds from auctions as he is a scammer I support this statement :) Whatever "Dirty Deeds" "Schmug" "Kaladryn" "Zakoah" "CimBom" Offers for your BPO, you can get more for it. /signed :) ---------------
Dirty Deeds	Posted - 2006.04.14 23:58:00 - [11] how jealous
voogru	Posted - 2006.04.14 23:59:00 - [12] Originally by: Dirty Deeds how jealous Jealous of what? Being a scammer? Not a chance. Anyways, Nice bpo, wish I had the ISK for it.
Boreaz	Posted - 2006.04.15 00:00:00 - [13] You guys understand that 45bil is around $8,000 in eBay prices It's virtual game anymore its alot of real life moooney.
Gronsak	Posted - 2006.04.15 00:11:00 - [14] very very nice BPO wish u luck free bump for this bpo -------------------Sig----------------------- Decrease blaster CPU useage Decrease Hybrid cap useage Balance all weapon systems DO IT SOON
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.15 00:14:00 - [15] 45.4 _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Dirty Deeds	Posted - 2006.04.15 00:15:00 - [16] 45.6
oldmailman	Posted - 2006.04.15 00:17:00 - [17] Thread Cleaned - Please stay on topic, happy bidding - Oldmailman Oldmailman Ensign, CRC Interstellar Services Department [email protected] forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website! Want to be an EVE-Online forum moderator? click here!
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.15 00:39:00 - [18] Edited by: Naal Morno on 15/04/2006 00:39:42 45.8 _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Vanderpelt	Posted - 2006.04.15 00:47:00 - [19] BMBE Are you short just a few billion ISK to make that final bid to win this auction Or - are you flat broke but simply need to have it The BMBE can help you Loans up to as much as 50B ISK are offered, with weekly interest rates as low as 2.5%. If you happen to be able to offer security in the form of t2 BPO's, the BMBE will even keep these in production for you for the duration of the loan. For lots more details on the BMBE and the types of loans offered have a look at the BMBE website Happy bidding
Chamelia Derell	Posted - 2006.04.15 01:01:00 - [20] Edited by: Chamelia Derell on 15/04/2006 01:01:53 I was considering the loan of 50bill until I ran a check on the my calc. 2,5% is 1,25bill a week nasty intrest.
Trillian HIjammer	Posted - 2006.04.15 01:52:00 - [21] Edited by: Trillian HIjammer on 15/04/2006 01:53:45
Ka Ten	Posted - 2006.04.15 02:43:00 - [22] well considering the market price of these is around 500mil this thing has the potential to make 3bil per week so thats a nice amount of profit even if u did get a loan.
Chamelia Derell	Posted - 2006.04.15 02:56:00 - [23] What's the build time on a hulk?
Gronsak	Posted - 2006.04.15 03:02:00 - [24] Originally by: Chamelia Derell What's the build time on a hulk? less than 1day 3h with skills taken into account! so you make about 6.3 ships a week. current profit is about 450mils, lets just say 400mils since prices may drop a little although unlikely since the people buying these will have teh brains to not let it drop below 400mils isk. more than 2.5bil isk a week profit. -------------------Sig----------------------- Decrease blaster CPU useage Decrease Hybrid cap useage Balance all weapon systems DO IT SOON
Captain Klaenning	Posted - 2006.04.15 03:19:00 - [25] Edited by: Captain Klaenning on 15/04/2006 03:20:26 Edited by: Captain Klaenning on 15/04/2006 03:19:50 Originally by: Vanderpelt BMBE Are you short just a few billion ISK to make that final bid to win this auction Or - are you flat broke but simply need to have it The BMBE can help you Loans up to as much as 50B ISK are offered, with weekly interest rates as low as 2.5%. If you happen to be able to offer security in the form of t2 BPO's, the BMBE will even keep these in production for you for the duration of the loan. For lots more details on the BMBE and the types of loans offered have a look at the BMBE website I hate to admit it, but I am curious what these links are for..... I cant get them to work in game or out of game -------500k/Jump!------
Ashvul	Posted - 2006.04.15 06:32:00 - [26] Originally by: Gronsak Originally by: Chamelia Derell What's the build time on a hulk? less than 1day 3h with skills taken into account! so you make about 6.3 ships a week. current profit is about 450mils, lets just say 400mils since prices may drop a little although unlikely since the people buying these will have teh brains to not let it drop below 400mils isk. more than 2.5bil isk a week profit. you didnt take PL research into account either. PL 1 would bring it to exactly 1 day build time.
belzebub1	Posted - 2006.04.15 10:08:00 - [27] Hehehhe, Bumpage for my old corp M8 Dont forget to visit Magma Index at the below Link. http://www.magmaindex.uni.cc/
Wolf Hunter	Posted - 2006.04.15 11:48:00 - [28] Originally by: Vanderpelt Edited by: Vanderpelt on 15/04/2006 10:44:36 BMBE Are you short just a few billion ISK to make that final bid to win this auction Or - are you flat broke but simply need to have it The BMBE can help you Loans up to as much as 50B ISK are offered, with weekly interest rates as low as 2.5%. If you happen to be able to offer security in the form of t2 BPO's, the BMBE will even keep these in production for you for the duration of the loan. For lots more details on the BMBE and the types of loans offered have a look at the BMBE website Happy bidding would been nice2 look at i guess but all i saw was The page cannot be found..... The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.
Ethan Ardishapur	Posted - 2006.04.15 11:52:00 - [29] BMBE That should work now
Archmage Raistlin	Posted - 2006.04.15 13:38:00 - [30] Sorry to do this as I am getting tired of all the Convos. 1.I DONT WANT TO HAVE SOMEONE MAKE THEM AND GIVE ME SOME/ALL/NONE of the Profits I just want to sell the Thing and get shut as Getting it was the easy part. 2.I put no Buyout but people keep offering things. Isks and BPs and Ships if you want to offer things like that put it on the board. Stop Convoing me PLEASE. 3.If it doesn't stop the parties in question will be blocked and have no chance of winning auction. 4 I have been advised to put in a reserve by someone I trust as I have made the auction to end too quickly. 5 The winner will recieve the BPo as soon as I can transfer it after the auction.There is no waiting time.(Unless her indoors says where going out on Bank Holiday Monday(Please God No) in which case it will be evening when you recieve) 6 The BPo is in safe space and the only person who will be told where and when is the winner.No I dont want to stitch the winner for half the money. 7 I hope I dont have to make anymore Rules or do any blocking thanks for your time Will class this as todays Bump
Detaitiv	Posted - 2006.04.15 13:46:00 - [31] 50 bil. God damn, I hope I've done my math right.
Detaitiv	Posted - 2006.04.15 13:47:00 - [32] Just disqualify anyome who breaks the rules. In fact just disqualify everyone who hasn't put a bid in and your troubles will be over.
Unrah	Posted - 2006.04.15 13:48:00 - [33] Originally by: Archmage Raistlin 4 I have been advised to put in a reserve by someone I trust as I have made the auction to end too quickly. 5 Is that reserve already met? If not how much is it, or is it one of those "secret" reserves?
Archmage Raistlin	Posted - 2006.04.15 13:57:00 - [34] Will say when reserve is met
Pooooottroto Swapo	Posted - 2006.04.15 14:02:00 - [35] 50bil not enough for something you don't wanna use? lolz..

Jacques Archambault	Posted - 2006.04.15 14:26:00 - [36] Thread cleaned. Please only post if you are making bid, or if you have a question for the seller. All other posts will be deleted, particularly those hijacking the thread and bringing it off topic. -Jacques' forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website! Want to be an EVE-Online forum moderator? click here!

Detaitiv	Posted - 2006.04.15 14:27:00 - [37] Boo hiss. I hate hidden reserves. Makes bidding feel like a waste of time until you mention we hit it. Post reserve and buyout already, even if the buyout may seem a bit sick.
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.15 14:30:00 - [38] I advise posting reserve if possible. This will make the process much more "unpleasant" for buyers and will assure somebody actually hits your target minimum price. Thanks _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Cosmo Raata	Posted - 2006.04.15 14:35:00 - [39] Last I checked, bpos tend to sell for what they make in isk per year. Not going to do the math & spoil it for potential buyers, but pls, I dont want to hear people whining about how much it is, etc. This is one if not the best bpo in game atm.
Archmage Raistlin	Posted - 2006.04.15 14:42:00 - [40] Reserve is not really important as if it isnt far from it then would prob sell. But as for a Buyout How can you put a price on something no one knows what its worth.If I put too much then I am being greedy if I put too little then Im being a Idiot and everyone will have there idea of what the ideal price is and it wont be the same for 2 people
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.15 14:56:00 - [41] Archmage, as I remarked in my personal mail and in convo the other day... The real value of this bpo is beyond what a single entity or even a group of people can gather together. To gather this much, it is necessary to sell off assets in 'fire sale' style, well under market value of items. If one had more time and knew reserve price, one could take their time to sell items at their real value.... Unfortunately, not knowing reserve and not being reasonably sure about the auction outcome, one would not go thru this procvess only to find himself not obtaining the BPO in the end due to some unrealistics reserve price. I am only asking for it as I need to see if I should be going thru the effort of sacrificing billions of ISK by fire selling other assets to gather funds for this purchase. Nobody carries 50b+ in their wallets in ISK since sitting ISK are depreciating ISK (everyone invests most of their money to make more ISK). I hope the reasoning above is sensible enough to establish reserve price or admitting you have no idea, which is fine. If the latter is true, you should just say there is no reserve and you WILL sell to whoever higher bidder is. Thanks. _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Archmage Raistlin	Posted - 2006.04.15 15:00:00 - [42] How can I sell for lump plus income. I have no gaurentee that in 2 weeks time the buyer just doesnt go HA HA you mug Bye Bye to your BPo at X ammount
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.15 15:15:00 - [43] Would it be possible to state your reserve please. This will determine if I want to keep on bidding and going thru the motion of gathering funds or just let it go since it will not be possible to gather this much anyways... Or just state you will sell at top price offered here. Thanks _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Tenebron	Posted - 2006.04.15 15:16:00 - [44] Naal's reasoning is valid on all counts and posting youre reserve will only beneffit you in this auction. Lets assume for a moment that youre reserve is 300 bil. A potential buyer will look at his wallet which only shows 200 bil and quick sell some of his bpos to be able at least to meet youre 300 bil reserve + a bit more on top of it and try his luck bidding in the auction. Note: the numbers are purely fictional
Grash Freedom	Posted - 2006.04.15 15:20:00 - [45] Originally by: Archmage Raistlin How can I sell for lump plus income. I have no gaurentee that in 2 weeks time the buyer just doesnt go HA HA you mug Bye Bye to your BPo at X ammount You have a point, only if i had the cash but as naal said, it's the biggest mistake to keep large ammounts of isk in your wallet, trust comes upon friendship only, what a lot have probably asked you already to do is a risk you have to take, risk=reward This auction will end at 80-90 bils, but your bpo worth a lot more Who to trust is a hard question, its up to you I have 3 people in my mind that i can vouche for them even without knowing them or be friend with, and no they are not in my corp Best of luck and i hope your bpo ends to the right hands and for the proper isks
Traxman	Posted - 2006.04.15 15:22:00 - [46] Originally by: Cosmo Raata Last I checked, bpos tend to sell for what they make in isk per year. Not going to do the math & spoil it for potential buyers, but pls, I dont want to hear people whining about how much it is, etc. This is one if not the best bpo in game atm. So you are saying the Hulk BPO is worth 125b then I guess you really dont know what you are talking about. I dont see any annouced that there is_ a hidden reserve, but i guess thats hidden aswell Free bump for a nice bpo tho )
The Enslaver	Posted - 2006.04.15 15:29:00 - [47] The value of such BPO's is irrelevent; no BPO will go for too much above 50-60bn because of the simple fact that nobody is stupid enough to keep that amount of assets in isk... Chant its value at 90-125bn all you want; nobody has that much isk available in such a short period. -------- Shinra Director
Archmage Raistlin	Posted - 2006.04.15 15:36:00 - [48] Reserve is 75 Bill. If you want a Buyout its 125 Bill a Thanatos and 20 fighters. Now will come all the slagging off about unrealisic prices and being greedy and all the rest of the info. Now going off line and wont be back on till Monday as I have had enough off the whole god damn thing
Kari Moltov	Posted - 2006.04.15 15:37:00 - [49] 50.2
Traxman	Posted - 2006.04.15 15:43:00 - [50] Thank you for reveling the reserve, Then i bid 74.8b isk and yes, im very_ valid to anyone that asks.
Kari Moltov	Posted - 2006.04.15 15:47:00 - [51] Curse that 11bn I gave you
TornSoul	Posted - 2006.04.15 16:05:00 - [52] Originally by: The Enslaver The value of such BPO's is irrelevent; no BPO will go for too much above 50-60bn because of the simple fact that nobody is stupid enough to keep that amount of assets in isk... Chant its value at 90-125bn all you want; nobody has that much isk available in such a short period. The BMBE begs to differ And will gladly make 50B ISK available BIG Lottery [u
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.15 16:24:00 - [53] Originally by: TornSoul Originally by: The Enslaver The value of such BPO's is irrelevent; no BPO will go for too much above 50-60bn because of the simple fact that nobody is stupid enough to keep that amount of assets in isk... Chant its value at 90-125bn all you want; nobody has that much isk available in such a short period. The BMBE begs to differ And will gladly make 50B ISK available You situation is a bit different since you just made a business out of having actual ISK in your wallet. Plus once you loan ISK out (eg. invest), you will also have no ISK in wallet (but loanee's assets) so you will end up in the same bin as rest of us. _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Edoo	Posted - 2006.04.15 16:50:00 - [54] 75 bil
Pooooottroto Swapo	Posted - 2006.04.15 16:52:00 - [55] Originally by: The Enslaver The value of such BPO's is irrelevent; no BPO will go for too much above 50-60bn because of the simple fact that nobody is stupid enough to keep that amount of assets in isk... Chant its value at 90-125bn all you want; nobody has that much isk available in such a short period. oo **** did someone just bid 75? :S
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.15 16:56:00 - [56] Ok, how many people are bidding here basing on a assumption they will get loan from BIG? _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Karrimdra	Posted - 2006.04.15 17:14:00 - [57] Originally by: Naal Morno Ok, how many people are bidding here basing on a assumption they will get loan from BIG? so theres 3 winners in any outcome of this auction by th elooks of things... the seller, the buyer and BIG's big bunch of bankers? :D im likining this, its like watching a soap. From nothing to something in just one corp!
Kari Moltov	Posted - 2006.04.15 17:16:00 - [58] I think Trax's bid is valid.
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.15 17:45:00 - [59] One thing is certain, I will be working towards establishing Bank myself. _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Traxman	Posted - 2006.04.15 18:38:00 - [60] And you think you are alone Naal about that
Ballistic Mystic	Posted - 2006.04.15 20:09:00 - [61] Being a owner of one of the BPOs myself, I'm curiously watching this auction. Not because I ever intend on selling my own (even if I could buy a new car with what it's worth on ebay) but to observe human nature at it's finest. I'm not the only one who is curious in this way, I've already had a dozen convos ingame asking me if I was watching this thread. Personally, if it were me and I didn't have the skills to produce it, I would invest in a character that did and use it myself. The BPO is MUCH more valuable kept than sold in the long run. I may be different than most people as far as what I want out of it though. For me it is just a way to have more fun in the game and explore areas that I couldn't before such as getting another char/account and doing some PvP and larger projects than I could have attempted previously. I kind of hope the price goes so high that only a large alliance can afford it and buys it based on logistic and strategic value, not isk value. Less competition for the rest of us on the retail market if it is used internally by an alliance. I have some idea of what he is going through, friends suddenly pop out of the woodwork and scammers see you as a bullseye. Several of you here have already broken his rule multiple times about ingame communications and trying to sway him this way or that. If it were me I'd be blocking people that couldn't respect the auction rules too. For those of you complaining about the potential price or how the auction is run, you can't expect an investment of this magnitude to be without risk, especially when there is so much competition for it. No harm in trying though and some very valid points were brought up so I'm not bashing anyone or complaining myself. That being said, the seller has every right to run the auction in whatever way he sees fit and if you don't like it, don't participate. I'd be willing to bet that this is the most watched single thread on the forums atm, pretty cool if you like people watching.
heruloka	Posted - 2006.04.15 21:39:00 - [62] Originally by: Traxman Thank you for reveling the reserve, Then i bid 74.8b isk and yes, im very_ valid to anyone that asks. i dont see how this can be a serious bid if you bid right under the reserve so that the next bit reaches the reserve. if it was a serious bid one would assume that you would bid at the reserve and not 200 mil short of it??????????????????? sorry, but i buy alot of stuff off of ebay and the only time i see this behaviour is when sellers try to artificially prop up thier bids with other accounts, or other people trying to disrupt the bidding????????????
Archmage Raistlin	Posted - 2006.04.15 21:47:00 - [63] I agree. Traxman if you are serious Thank You for your offer.If not please read the earlier posts as I said I would sell at a price near the Reserve so if you dont want to end up with a 74.8 Billion bill retract your bid so that others may bid properly. Thank you
Border201	Posted - 2006.04.15 21:59:00 - [64] Originally by: Archmage Raistlin I agree. Traxman if you are serious Thank You for your offer.If not please read the earlier posts as I said I would sell at a price near the Reserve so if you dont want to end up with a 74.8 Billion bill retract your bid so that others may bid properly. Thank you I have known trax for my entire life within eve if he says he has 74.8b isk he has 74.8b isk. Also keep in mind that the guy has puchased other high value BPO's Namely the skiff BPO the Mack BPO and now possibly the Hulk BPO. Originally by: Tuxford I once tried to kick my brother when I had my pants around my ankle. Probably not my brightest moments.
Swaffer	Posted - 2006.04.15 22:16:00 - [65] Originally by: Ballistic Mystic Being a owner of one of the BPOs myself, I'm curiously watching this auction. Not because I ever intend on selling my own (even if I could buy a new car with what it's worth on ebay) but to observe human nature at it's finest. I'm not the only one who is curious in this way, I've already had a dozen convos ingame asking me if I was watching this thread. Personally, if it were me and I didn't have the skills to produce it, I would invest in a character that did and use it myself. The BPO is MUCH more valuable kept than sold in the long run. I may be different than most people as far as what I want out of it though. For me it is just a way to have more fun in the game and explore areas that I couldn't before such as getting another char/account and doing some PvP and larger projects than I could have attempted previously. I kind of hope the price goes so high that only a large alliance can afford it and buys it based on logistic and strategic value, not isk value. Less competition for the rest of us on the retail market if it is used internally by an alliance. I have some idea of what he is going through, friends suddenly pop out of the woodwork and scammers see you as a bullseye. Several of you here have already broken his rule multiple times about ingame communications and trying to sway him this way or that. If it were me I'd be blocking people that couldn't respect the auction rules too. For those of you complaining about the potential price or how the auction is run, you can't expect an investment of this magnitude to be without risk, especially when there is so much competition for it. No harm in trying though and some very valid points were brought up so I'm not bashing anyone or complaining myself. That being said, the seller has every right to run the auction in whatever way he sees fit and if you don't like it, don't participate. I'd be willing to bet that this is the most watched single thread on the forums atm, pretty cool if you like people watching. COuldn't agree more, and yes i have a HULK BPO to.
Xiano	Posted - 2006.04.15 22:58:00 - [66] In standard auctions if you bid below the reserve you don't have to purchase if the seller decided he will accept the price. You are given the option to purchase at your offer but it is not binding.
ElCoCo	Posted - 2006.04.15 23:04:00 - [67] Originally by: Swaffer COuldn't agree more, and yes i have a HULK BPO to. We know, you keep "mentioning" it in almost all your posts
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.15 23:15:00 - [68] Originally by: ElCoCo Originally by: Swaffer COuldn't agree more, and yes i have a HULK BPO to. We know, you keep "mentioning" it in almost all your posts Yes! One could say "Like...who cares" _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Kari Moltov	Posted - 2006.04.15 23:20:00 - [69] Originally by: Swaffer Originally by: Ballistic Mystic Being a owner of one of the BPOs myself, I'm curiously watching this auction. Not because I ever intend on selling my own (even if I could buy a new car with what it's worth on ebay) but to observe human nature at it's finest. I'm not the only one who is curious in this way, I've already had a dozen convos ingame asking me if I was watching this thread. Personally, if it were me and I didn't have the skills to produce it, I would invest in a character that did and use it myself. The BPO is MUCH more valuable kept than sold in the long run. I may be different than most people as far as what I want out of it though. For me it is just a way to have more fun in the game and explore areas that I couldn't before such as getting another char/account and doing some PvP and larger projects than I could have attempted previously. I kind of hope the price goes so high that only a large alliance can afford it and buys it based on logistic and strategic value, not isk value. Less competition for the rest of us on the retail market if it is used internally by an alliance. I have some idea of what he is going through, friends suddenly pop out of the woodwork and scammers see you as a bullseye. Several of you here have already broken his rule multiple times about ingame communications and trying to sway him this way or that. If it were me I'd be blocking people that couldn't respect the auction rules too. For those of you complaining about the potential price or how the auction is run, you can't expect an investment of this magnitude to be without risk, especially when there is so much competition for it. No harm in trying though and some very valid points were brought up so I'm not bashing anyone or complaining myself. That being said, the seller has every right to run the auction in whatever way he sees fit and if you don't like it, don't participate. I'd be willing to bet that this is the most watched single thread on the forums atm, pretty cool if you like people watching. COuldn't agree more, and yes i have a HULK BPO to. Didn't you loose a Dread recently in a highly amusing fashion? Originally by: Border201 Originally by: Archmage Raistlin I agree. Traxman if you are serious Thank You for your offer.If not please read the earlier posts as I said I would sell at a price near the Reserve so if you dont want to end up with a 74.8 Billion bill retract your bid so that others may bid properly. Thank you I have known trax for my entire life within eve if he says he has 74.8b isk he has 74.8b isk. Also keep in mind that the guy has puchased other high value BPO's Namely the skiff BPO the Mack BPO and now possibly the Hulk BPO. We have his Skiff now!
DeODokktor	Posted - 2006.04.15 23:21:00 - [70] All these hulk bpo owners watching this auction.. But they are not planning to buy (hmmmmm) _______________________________________________ Every time you whine a little HAC is destroyed. Please think of the little HACs
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2006.04.15 23:25:00 - [71] Originally by: Archmage Raistlin I agree. Traxman if you are serious Thank You for your offer.If not please read the earlier posts as I said I would sell at a price near the Reserve so if you dont want to end up with a 74.8 Billion bill retract your bid so that others may bid properly. Thank you Traxman is as legitimate as they come.
Detaitiv	Posted - 2006.04.16 00:40:00 - [72] So next bid is 75 billion. I need to get drunk before that happens. Quote: no BPO will go for too much above 50-60bn because of the simple fact that nobody is stupid enough to keep that amount of assets in isk... Some people are stupid enough to think if their wallet amount is high enough the "You win" window will finally pop up. I'm still waiting for it. And hi. Rules are that we aren't supposed to share threads unless we're talking about # of kills Omega Corp had on FA or the inverse.
Naverin	Posted - 2006.04.16 01:57:00 - [73] 1 billion and any rl sexual favors you like.. ______________________ I am the carebear... who doesnt use the "Correct Dread"
Verizana	Posted - 2006.04.16 02:45:00 - [74] Originally by: Naverin 1 billion and any rl sexual favors you like.. comon get over this immatureness's's' the thread has been cleaned like 5 times. Drop it. All The Kru vids
Traxman	Posted - 2006.04.16 09:33:00 - [75] Originally by: Archmage Raistlin I agree. Traxman if you are serious Thank You for your offer.If not please read the earlier posts as I said I would sell at a price near the Reserve so if you dont want to end up with a 74.8 Billion bill retract your bid so that others may bid properly. Thank you Im quilified for 75b isk, you told us all that hte reserve was 75b isk, there of my bid and to basicly have someone to bid over me. I cant see anywhere that you state that you will sell it close to reserve either so i assume i can meaby get it cheaper then by retracting my bid and let the auction go on, the only winner here is not you, not me.. but TornSoul. Bid retracted due to unknown factors as 'selling close to reserve' and due to i might get it cheaper Ill be here 5 minutes bvefore auction ends and we will see how will get it
Archmage Raistlin	Posted - 2006.04.16 10:29:00 - [76] As for pulling because of not being able to find the bit about being close to reserve TRAXMAN its in post 24. And if you read post 1 it says serious bids only All those of you who are slagging me off wait till you have something like this.Its an UNKNOWN Item.NO-ONE except CCP know what it is worth prob. I have never run an auction and as such could only go by what people told me. But its amazing how many people there are too keep giving you advice.Then when you do take the advice they give you ,you get knocked by other people and sometimes by the peple who gave you the advice. Please stop having a go at me and just bid for the thing if you want it
Embattle	Posted - 2006.04.16 10:37:00 - [77] Bump and goodluck Archmage Raistlin...just ignore the rest. ----------- That's twice....most probably be three times by next week.
Unrah	Posted - 2006.04.16 14:16:00 - [78] Edited by: Unrah on 16/04/2006 14:16:25 I am a bit confused now about what is the actual highest bid, but in any case, here is mine: 55 bil isk.
Kari Moltov	Posted - 2006.04.16 14:41:00 - [79] The reserve is 75bn
evil's toy	Posted - 2006.04.16 16:02:00 - [80] i would like to offer 130b in installments. if you are intrested convo me. if you are not intrested in installment payments just tell me and i will delete this post.
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.16 16:36:00 - [81] Edited by: Naal Morno on 16/04/2006 16:38:33 Edited by: Naal Morno on 16/04/2006 16:37:46 Originally by: evil's toy i would like to offer 130b in installments. if you are intrested convo me. if you are not intrested in installment payments just tell me and i will delete this post. I think he stated numerous times this is not an option _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
WhiskeyDP	Posted - 2006.04.16 16:42:00 - [82] think it is as long as you propose it in this tread and not in mail to him. he wants everything in here, which i dont blame him for tbh. his mailbox cant be pretty atm ================== === wts BPC's - check my bio. Best Collection ingame? wts Falcon & Claymore's
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.16 17:42:00 - [83] Edited by: Naal Morno on 16/04/2006 17:43:06 Since all the other high bids got retracted, I will tentatively bid this: 74.8bil _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Astarte Nosferatu	Posted - 2006.04.16 17:48:00 - [84] Originally by: Naal Morno Edited by: Naal Morno on 16/04/2006 17:43:06 Since all the other high bids got retracted, I will tentatively bid this: 74.8bil Good luck Naal, I hope you get it .
Espen	Posted - 2006.04.16 18:35:00 - [85] Originally by: Naal Morno Edited by: Naal Morno on 16/04/2006 17:43:06 Since all the other high bids got retracted, I will tentatively bid this: 74.8bil O_O
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.16 18:45:00 - [86] Dear Archmage Raistlin. Since you're much more educated on the auction rules and general trading now, I wonder if you would find it ok to talk to me in game about certain risk free (for you anyway) arrangement we could make. I hope you can give me a benefit of doubt since I am the highest bidder and at the same time I talked to you from the very biginning offering down to earth good deal with certain trade offer (which in my eyes is still the highest absolute value you received to date, but I understand your refusal). Since you know the value of your BPO, I think you will find it pleasant to learn about my new option. It will allow you to get most value for your bpo without any inherent risks which others' proposals are certainly posing (down to complete 'give bpo and I make (most likely run)' "deals" you no doubt received to date). Thank you and please feel free to contact me at your convenience. Naal Morno _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Detaitiv	Posted - 2006.04.16 18:48:00 - [87] Why don't you remove the "tentatively" or get the **** out of the thread until you can make a certain bid.
Detaitiv	Posted - 2006.04.16 19:33:00 - [88] Thanks. I feel much better now.
Archmage Raistlin	Posted - 2006.04.16 22:45:00 - [89] Bump for today
Vorlon	Posted - 2006.04.16 23:03:00 - [90] 75 bil isk. and Yes, this bid is valid. and Yes, i got the cash.
Tarash Awin	Posted - 2006.04.16 23:11:00 - [91] Edited by: Tarash Awin on 16/04/2006 23:13:34 75.2 billion Tarash Awin - Sackville [SACKE]
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.17 02:56:00 - [92] 75.4 _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Vorlon	Posted - 2006.04.17 08:15:00 - [93] 75.6 bil isk
Brother Benthor	Posted - 2006.04.17 08:51:00 - [94] Man this is one hell of a BPO but i shiver every time i see this post at the top :S and wonder how some players have so much isks? Good Luck with the auction P.S: To the biders who don't win: u can buyout on me for slavery for that ammount if u want, im a capable Minmatar Male in my mid-30s and in good health. Convo me in-game with offers Designer Services click me!
Archmage Raistlin	Posted - 2006.04.17 10:10:00 - [95] Edited by: Archmage Raistlin on 17/04/2006 10:12:58 Final Bump less than 2 hours to go. Being asked about accepting Items,ships and implants as well as Isks. If you wish to offer these put current value with item. And please don't exagerate about prices. PC will be done and if you give wrong price then this Thread will get inundated with replys about there real worth And all items if accepted in final bid must be delivered to me at time of BPo hand over.In the system I choose
Zeonog	Posted - 2006.04.17 10:48:00 - [96] Honestly. Cancel the auction and keep the BPO. If you need isk, sell a hulk. It doesn't take much effort to make. If your lazy, buy minerals at higher prices so they are in the local system, your still gonna make a HUGE profit! Isk is losing value everyday. Its not worth selling it unless you want to buy a titan badly
Da Death	Posted - 2006.04.17 10:54:00 - [97] for the bidder I hope that in the near future not many more hulk bpo's get seeded Free BumP for a cool auction :) Absolution - Curse - Gleam/Scorch/Conflag S - Miner II's - BPC's and more ->bio
Zian	Posted - 2006.04.17 11:00:00 - [98] 75.8 bil
Vorlon	Posted - 2006.04.17 11:01:00 - [99] 76 bil
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.17 11:11:00 - [100] 76.2 _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Vorlon	Posted - 2006.04.17 11:27:00 - [101] 76.4 bil
JesusOfSuburbia	Posted - 2006.04.17 11:30:00 - [102] watching this auction is just awsome ! ... free bump !
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.17 11:34:00 - [103] 76.6 _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Zian	Posted - 2006.04.17 11:51:00 - [104] 76.8 bil
Archmage Raistlin	Posted - 2006.04.17 11:53:00 - [105] Please keep this thread for bidding
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.17 11:56:00 - [106] 77 _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.17 11:57:00 - [107] 80 _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Vorlon	Posted - 2006.04.17 11:57:00 - [108] Edited by: Vorlon on 17/04/2006 11:56:44 77.2 bil
Vorlon	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:04:00 - [109] 80.2 bil
Archmage Raistlin	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:05:00 - [110] Edited by: Archmage Raistlin on 17/04/2006 12:04:56
trong	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:06:00 - [111] 1 minute too late vorlon and it would have been naal's lol
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:06:00 - [112] 82 _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
azreal dark	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:07:00 - [113] passes out from tension
Vorlon	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:07:00 - [114] Originally by: trong 1 minute too late vorlon and it would have been naal's lol Just wanted to raise the tension a little.
Archmage Raistlin	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:08:00 - [115] Can someone please Confirm that sniper rule mean every time there is a new bid auction ends 10 mins after that
DeathWarrior	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:09:00 - [116] Edited by: DeathWarrior on 17/04/2006 12:09:12 yes it does Originally by: Tuxford I once tried to kick my brother when I had my pants around my ankle. Probably not my brightest moments.
Zian	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:09:00 - [117] sniper rule means a bidder can bid 10mins past the last valid bid. so this auction will go for a bit while longer
Da Death	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:09:00 - [118] 10 min after last bid Absolution - Curse - Gleam/Scorch/Conflag S - Miner II's - BPC's and more ->bio
azreal dark	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:09:00 - [119] Yes time extended by 10 min
Vorlon	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:14:00 - [120] 82.2 bil
Zian	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:14:00 - [121] 82.2 bil
Zian	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:23:00 - [122] 82.6 bil
Archmage Raistlin	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:25:00 - [123] Think of my Heart was about to say congrats to Vorlon
Sensor Error	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:28:00 - [124] they're deliberately leaving it till 9th minute to break your heart... thats mean... friendly bump? as if this thread needs it... RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!! ------------------------------------------ Now run along and play with your dolls...
Receptionist	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:32:00 - [125] time check
Vorlon	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:32:00 - [126] I keep hacking my calculator, but i fear i am at the end of my possibilities. Thanks to the winner and thanks to Archmage for this adrenaline race. I am out.
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:35:00 - [127] Well, had to get to work Anyways, if the top bidder fails to pay, you can see me _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Archmage Raistlin	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:35:00 - [128] Ok thank you Vorlon Thank you All for bidding and congrats to Zian. Will speak online in about 15 minutes just got to take dog for walk then will be online to talk
Zian	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:36:00 - [129] /me faints Thnx for this adrenalin. now to go gather up all that isk
Da Death	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:36:00 - [130] Wohooooo!! Absolution - Curse - Gleam/Scorch/Conflag S - Miner II's - BPC's and more ->bio
Brother Benthor	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:39:00 - [131] /me passes out ... Designer Services click me!
Exelsior	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:50:00 - [132] Originally by: Brother Benthor /me passes out ... Where do you get all these smileys from? lol ------------------------- Thou shalt be dispatched. Originally by: Tuxford Yes we don't play on our main accounts simply because you would lose all respect for us
Brother Benthor	Posted - 2006.04.17 12:51:00 - [133] Edited by: Brother Benthor on 17/04/2006 12:51:32 Originally by: Exelsior Originally by: Brother Benthor /me passes out ... Where do you get all these smileys from? lol internet has more then just p0rn pictures there are tons of smiles websites. u just need to google them Designer Services click me!
Edison Frisk	Posted - 2006.04.17 13:08:00 - [134] Edited by: Edison Frisk on 17/04/2006 13:08:02 the internet is for **, the internet is for *.....dances*
BobbyRaider	Posted - 2006.04.17 13:33:00 - [135] Originally by: Brother Benthor this is getting exciting... This one was so amazing, I was laffing out loud !! Cool jools, Benthor :) Bobby
Brother Benthor	Posted - 2006.04.17 13:36:00 - [136] thx :) eheh.. I was thinking using that one or this one but a BIG auction like this one required a XXL popcorn bucket. Designer Services click me!
Extreme	Posted - 2006.04.17 13:36:00 - [137] Congratz ! I own a HULK BPO too but i'm not selling it :) 82.6 bil is a bargain ! . .
gizli	Posted - 2006.04.17 13:50:00 - [138] Originally by: Extreme Congratz ! I own a HULK BPO too but i'm not selling it :) 82.6 bil is a bargain ! How long do they take to build How much do they cost to build Dont touch that rotation again. Love, Gizli
Gabs	Posted - 2006.04.17 14:25:00 - [139] Edited by: Gabs on 17/04/2006 14:25:37 Originally by: gizli Originally by: Extreme Congratz ! I own a HULK BPO too but i'm not selling it :) 82.6 bil is a bargain ! How long do they take to build How much do they cost to build Answered here
Grash Freedom	Posted - 2006.04.17 15:33:00 - [140] Now that the auction is over and finally see that my estimate on isk that people have was right, i need to say WOW you got it VERY cheap mate the bpo will make the isk within 100 days, this is less than 1/3 of how tech 2 bpos/value/isk is calculated, Arch mate you could have built the damn ship and make 82 bils in the 100 days period i mension, THEN sell the bpo and make 100+ bils from that as well, you are now 100+ bils under than you should, As for the trust thing i understand that you can't trust anybody in agame,but damn mate, you can trust NAGA, at least 99.99999999999% of people in eve do, not me not naal not DD not trax but hey NAGA is NAGA 82 bils is fine, but it's not enough (Yes i am greedy) more is always better :) Take care mate and hope the money will be well spent/invested
Aliksr	Posted - 2006.04.17 17:12:00 - [141] I agree i don't think you got nearly enough for this. You should have traded it for a bunch of other T2 BPOs and then sold those in auctions over time. You'd get way more in isk value because the pool of potential bidders is much bigger - more people have lots of T2 BPOs than there are people with lots of isk. Then you also have a safer portfolio holding some T2 BPOs and some isk. And finally it would be like stripping a car - fancy cars are worth more sold as parts than they are sold as a whole. Plus you could just keep the BPOs you got in exchange idle and that would be hilarious. I would have posted a thread asking how to structure such an auction and probe for bankers willing to underwrite loans or suggestions on how to make a list of serious bidders who could then offer mixtures of cash and assets annonymously. But I can only imagine the greif this has put you through. Apparently massive state lottery winners are more often than not unhappy people afterwards. This BPO is just pixels in a game ffs.
Jennifae	Posted - 2006.04.17 17:53:00 - [142] thread = case in point of everything that is wrong with the tech 2 bpo lottery system!
Xiano	Posted - 2006.04.17 18:02:00 - [143] I think I would just have ran a lottery...
StRaWbErRy MuFfInMaN	Posted - 2006.04.17 18:06:00 - [144] I think everyone needs to keep their greed and jealousy contained and keep quiet already...
Naal Morno	Posted - 2006.04.17 18:09:00 - [145] I proposed T2 BPOs option (a very fair value at that, Astarte + Nighthawk BPO + ISK at the time when OP was advertising his bpo on BP Channel for the first time, before this auction started. He had top offer of 30bil and ALMOST sell it to somebody for that amount...) but it was met with refusal even though I argued exactly the same as the poster above. It is much easier to sell smaller BPOs since more people can afford them and I know some people would pay top isk to have the ones above. _________________________________________ Every time you whine a little Cloak is destroyed. Please think of the little Cloaks
Argenton Sayvers	Posted - 2006.04.17 18:14:00 - [146] Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 17/04/2006 18:14:29 That somebody was me. thanks alot Naal. GRRRRR.
Doctor Tycho	Posted - 2006.04.17 18:56:00 - [147] Well he obviosly want alot of isk right now. What hes gonna use it for we can only speculate, but im sure he knows that if he had kept on to it he could earn twice as much.
Orree	Posted - 2006.04.17 23:00:00 - [148] This was an exciting auction. I loved the way lots of people were trying to tell this guy how do do his auction or talk him out of it or whatever. I'd have been as annoyed as he apparently was. Congrats to the winner. Both side got what they wanted and that sounds like a good deal to me.
Driven	Posted - 2006.04.17 23:01:00 - [149] Wow. You know, you take a trip, off the internet for a few days. Look at what you miss. Lessons learned: 1) Never take a trip 2) Never be off the internet for longer than it takes to take a crap 3) Never believe that the price of Tech 2 BPOs will go down (except for tech 2 missile BPOs, yuck puuuuwwwwweeeeee). I feel poor now after seeing some of these bids.
Jaeger Orlofsson	Posted - 2006.04.18 11:57:00 - [150] lmfao @ 2)
Reprismo	Posted - 2006.04.18 12:56:00 - [151] 82.6 BILLION - R U SURE ??????????????????????????????? Jees Whoever got that - HAS GOT A BARGAIN I said to a corp mate at the beginning "Watch this go over 100 Billion" Well done to the winner
Kamikaaazi	Posted - 2006.04.18 13:20:00 - [152] this is just stupid, ill add you all to my buddylist so i can make suicide runs on you in my raven.
qrac	Posted - 2006.04.18 15:57:00 - [153] Originally by: Kamikaaazi this is just stupid, ill add you all to my buddylist so i can make suicide runs on you in my raven. talk is cheap ------------------------------------------- Boycott Starforce!
Archmage Raistlin	Posted - 2006.04.19 18:27:00 - [154] To all those who are saying I could of got more why didnt you bid to all those who say I should of kept Im typing this on a computer in a Cybercafe 250 miles from my computer with Eve on it.To those who offered BPs you where told to put it in this Forum but none of you did. And Naals didnt offer 2 BPo and Isk he offered 2 BPos and NO isks and they where worth 70 Bill by his estamates. Anyone who wants to see the ingame message I will forward to. I am happy with what I got. Dont know if the escrow has been claimed yet so cant tell. But I have ships ordered to the value of 5 bill and all my Corp mates have got a new battleship each. Thank You to those who defended me to the rest. I dont really care
Tar Ecthelion	Posted - 2006.04.23 22:43:00 - [155] 82 bil is enough to keep someone very happy for a lifetime in EVE. Just think of all the tech 2 ships you can afford to lose with that amount of money .. jeez, that would be fun. Good luck to both parties involved, hope you both enjoy. .....
Da Death	Posted - 2006.04.24 09:36:00 - [156] its never over!! Absolution-Curse-Gleam/Scorch/Conflag-Miner II's-BPC's and more ->bio
Malarkey	Posted - 2006.04.24 10:36:00 - [157] Originally by: Jennifae thread = case in point of everything that is wrong with the tech 2 bpo lottery system! Totally agree
Sarai Atvar	Posted - 2006.04.24 18:34:00 - [158] I'd like to say congratulations and best wishes to everyone involved in this auction. For the PVP of carebears, this was unmatched. ----------------- [ The Coreli Corporation Mainframe ]

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