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I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
1040
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Posted - 2014.02.22 12:08:00 -
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I think a lot of it is with bounties. A lot of high sec carebears are afraid of bounties, and many times, if you even talk in local, someone slaps you with a bounty. You see it here on the forums, people complaining and worried about bounties. Even some of my characters got bounties just for talking in local. The true carebears think having a bounty means you will get killed easier.
Anyway, where I hang out, there is always a lot of chat in local. Some between gankers and gankees, but also just normal conversation a lot of the time. Guess it really depends on where you're at in the universe, and whether or not you're considered hostile or non-hostile by the locals who hang in systems. |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2023
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Posted - 2014.02.22 12:50:00 -
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Seems appropriate...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n03g8nsaBro This is not a signature. |

March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1229
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Posted - 2014.02.22 13:02:00 -
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Ilovetomine wrote:Suggestions/observations on this, anyone? personally i always come to meeting with new people. Assist them in missions when i can (i'm in militia so most of the time i can't) The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
103266
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Posted - 2014.02.22 13:05:00 -
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Ilovetomine wrote:Good day to all of you. I just wanted to share a thought I had, or maybe a feeling... Or perhaps something I just have noticed.
Empire is well populated.... but... quiet??
A local of 44 on an alt, and 34 on the main.
I greet both ends, no response. Ask a question, same thing. Hours pass, not a word.
So I bring up d-scan, and sure enough, tons of ships... But no one is home?
I think it is so strange that the people of empire are just so silent. I see them come and go, I see them go places; belts, missions, anoms, you name it. And not a word is said. People will reject convos, block you over mails, or just greet you with some sort of frantic paranoia.
I offered multiple systems FREE perfect orca boosts(on the alt), and was greeted with silence, or the typical too-good-to-be-true attitude. When giving people reasonable proof that my orca is indeed a friendly orca, with all of its very deadly high-slots etc, people get crazy and scared.
Where is the socialization? Where are the friendly, talkative people? Honestly, empire almost feels as isolated or as quiet as null.
Hell, I had more genuine conversations, and more trust from neutrals, yellows, etc from lowsec. Even people whom I never met, would be a wingman.
But not in empire... Isn't it quiet?? Or is it just me??
The only thing ever seen typed in Local anymore is "Greetings from your Saviors of High Sec. If you don't have a permit........" and blah blah blah.
That's the only convo I've heard in local in years. Where have you been ?? "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
103278
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Posted - 2014.02.22 13:06:00 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Years of ganking, long cons, and wardecs over trivial matters have taken their toll. High sec dwellers have learned to shut their mouths, lest they become a target.
That, and most of them are AFK at any given time.
Lets see some real statistics on that. "He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |

Rhatar Khurin
Happy Asteroid Ltd
510
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Posted - 2014.02.22 13:47:00 -
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Ilovetomine wrote:Pix Severus wrote:Years of ganking, long cons, and wardecs over trivial matters have taken their toll. High sec dwellers have learned to shut their mouths, lest they become a target.
That, and most of them are AFK at any given time. Very good point.. I do know this and keep it in mind... I just think it is so sad. I can't even get together with anyone to pve with. Its just odd to me.
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
1448
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Posted - 2014.02.22 14:04:00 -
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And then the people bowed and prayed to the neon god they made. BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty. |

Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
792
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Posted - 2014.02.22 14:12:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Alejandro Rebenga wrote:Kat.. er.. Dave. clearly, i've missed something. Only the obvious.  |

Dace Onio
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2014.02.22 14:12:00 -
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local blink is turned of in hisec for a reason, the ppl who generally talk there are full of there own ****, the less i know thats said there the less i go through keyboards |

Obunagawe
324
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Posted - 2014.02.22 14:30:00 -
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It's even the same in the starter systems - 100 players in starter system local and noone talks. Except Russians. But no English talk whatsoever. These are players who should be too young to have formed prejudices or closed local. |

Dave Stark
4364
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Posted - 2014.02.22 15:03:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Alejandro Rebenga wrote:Kat.. er.. Dave. clearly, i've missed something. Only the obvious.  that happens far more than i'm comfortable with. |

Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
743
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Posted - 2014.02.22 15:24:00 -
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Ralen Zateki wrote:Ilovetomine wrote:Suggestions/observations on this, anyone? I think you may be missing the point.... but if you really want to make friends with folks in the local channel go right ahead. I'm sure they have plenty of magazines and candy to keep you occupied. In the meantime... I think I'll join a corp....
In some out of the way high sec systems with only 4-5 people in the whole constellation people get to know each other via local after a while. Most of high sec is full of scams , idiots and the shallow. Talking in local in those places has no feedback and no upside. Joining a decent corp is IMO a subset of the options available. (although always a good idea). Joining one or more communities is how you get to chat in eve. The community might be your corp or alliance. It might be industrial or Minerbumping. It might be belligerent undesirables. It might be role playing or some kinky sex fantasy based. Doesn't matter. Find one or more you like and join them. Much better success rate than random people in local Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85 |

admiral root
Red Galaxy Disband.
874
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Posted - 2014.02.22 17:46:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Even if you have the best of intentions and are being as friendly as you can possibly be, there might just be some ganker who decides to pick on you for that very reason. Just to troll you for being a nice guy.
Some of the nicest people I've met in this game are gankers. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff |

Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
527
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Posted - 2014.02.22 17:55:00 -
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Silence in highsec is very common. Always keep trying to initiate conversations. You can use whatever means you deem necessary.
It's always good to know the locals. There will always be silence, but if you stick to a system, then you can break it.
- Join the Epic Boo Bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!) You are at it from day 0! |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
4225
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Posted - 2014.02.22 18:54:00 -
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BrundleMeth wrote:Well...
In my home station, local chat is full of russians speaking russian. It appears they have no interest in talking to anyone else which to my mind is nothing more than pure racism. Which doesn't really surprise me...
And no I'm not moving, I have too much to move and I was there first...
They say the same thing about you. All you do is yammer in your Americanized pseudo-English instead of chatting with them in their native language.
It's not them that's racist. It's you.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Karl Jerr
Herzack Unit
6
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Posted - 2014.02.22 19:30:00 -
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When someone say o/ in local I usually answer to it. Sometimes there are even cool, but rare, convos (I had one Friday). Out of that, including some scam and hiring messages, it's pretty silent and dead.
Most of the time I use local as an intel tool than a chat.
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1229
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Posted - 2014.02.22 20:13:00 -
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admiral root wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:Even if you have the best of intentions and are being as friendly as you can possibly be, there might just be some ganker who decides to pick on you for that very reason. Just to troll you for being a nice guy. Some of the nicest people I've met in this game are gankers. i guess it is really bad to be such limited person  The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Em arr Roids
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.02.22 20:48:00 -
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I actually agreed with the op and then decided fck it ima go hang in null. Went through Solitude, cloud ring pureblind and fade and wow... I'll never moan about hi sec being quiet again.
Whats funny is the Pro 20+ man fleets flying through. I mean why on earth would you do a fleet op in dead space ? These areas used to be a hive of activity and it's sad to navigate the area like this.
Maybe high sec is not as quiet as people think it is... |

MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
747
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Posted - 2014.02.22 22:33:00 -
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I've played this game long enough to realize that my survival rate depends on how low a profile I can keep. That means keep yer mouth shut, don't invite strangers to parties, don't go to strangers' parties, and you don't have friends; only people pretending to be your friends so they can scam you.
Been playing 8+ years incident-free (well, nearly incident-free... had to learn somehow). |

DSpite Culhach
287
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Posted - 2014.02.23 06:54:00 -
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I've landed in hisec anomalies with L5 level tanked ships and helped out people that were shooting, I've sat on belts picking off rats, I have even let people ninja-salvage in missions while I was doing them, and generally speaking, people are very cautious.
Sometimes landing on grid with a ship that kinda-sorta looks like it's not supposed be the type of ships that should be there, makes people warp off instantly, and I rarely get people to answer if I say hello in local.
To the OP: Now, if YOU landed on grid and said hello, I would take a look at the name, the pic, and then warp the hell off. Sorry, but you can look like whatever you want, and you want to be friendly, but you broadcast a whole "I want to eat your babies" vibe, so yea, not surprised. I fully realize that toon pics and names don't generally mean much, but after coming across names like "WarpOutASAP", it's better safe then sorry. ~ |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4365
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Posted - 2014.02.23 07:45:00 -
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I've had some very good chat in local. It's all about what you say. Even the Russians are fun. Bring back DEEEEP Space! |

Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1209
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Posted - 2014.02.23 08:44:00 -
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I avoid local like the plague. If anyone is talking it's ******* kids waving their dicks in each others faces.
My chat is always set to Eve Radio. The people there are generally friendly and funny. They are all over the universe so I can get some intel on goings on elsewhere. They often do events like 1v1 PVP or mining ops. Ha! One of the 1v1s saw a Battle Badger vs. an Incursus. That one had to be called as neither could break the others' tank.
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:I've played this game long enough to realize that my survival rate depends on how low a profile I can keep.
Truer words, spoken not. "Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
www.eve-radio.com -áJoin Eve Radio channel in game! |

James Nikolas Tesla
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
97
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Posted - 2014.02.23 10:51:00 -
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I don't usually look at local, I am too busy monitoring my ore hold capacity. I <3 Boobees
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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
34
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Posted - 2014.02.23 17:54:00 -
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Em arr Roids wrote:I actually agreed with the op and then decided fck it ima go hang in null. Went through Solitude, cloud ring pureblind and fade and wow... I'll never moan about hi sec being quiet again.
Whats funny is the Pro 20+ man fleets flying through. I mean why on earth would you do a fleet op in dead space ? These areas used to be a hive of activity and it's sad to navigate the area like this.
Maybe high sec is not as quiet as people think it is...
Shhh they want you to think their afk and not ratting, mining, or trying to convince people to stop making isk to hunt you |

Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
517
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Posted - 2014.02.23 21:04:00 -
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Ilovetomine wrote:Good day to all of you. I just wanted to share a thought I had, or maybe a feeling... Or perhaps something I just have noticed....Isn't it quiet?? Or is it just me?? it's just you. Frankly, there are so many people in systems it's sort of bites to all speak in local at once.so there are many private channels instead - try having a conversation in Jita... Still, if you hit the right place at the right time where there are a lot of long time acquaintances busy convos can happned. -á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á-
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NearNihil
Every time is Fuwa time
119
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Posted - 2014.02.23 21:26:00 -
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Sometimes I chat with the people in local trying to strike up a conversation about anything. Sometimes I do not. Sometimes it's about showing off your blingiest pve boat (and I must admit I did link my all-A-type Daredevil L4 fit (which has been disassembled since) to wave a bit of my e-willy too), sometimes it's about beating a guy from the SoE Epic Arc. Sometimes it's about "that f***ing ganker", sometimes it's about mining. I'm not interested in all topics, and I don't always feel like chatting, so I keep my mouth shut when I don't feel like talking.
That said, I secretly have fantasies about making a new corp and exclusively recruit people by probing their ship down, taking out a shuttle, and private convoing them while I orbit their ship. |

djentropy Ovaert
Crazy Bird Inc.
150
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Posted - 2014.02.23 21:28:00 -
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Victoria Thorne wrote:Ilovetomine wrote:Suggestions/observations on this, anyone? Launch a crusade. War-dec anyone who doesn't accept a chat request from you. If that is too much work, join an active corp.
BEST. IDEA. EVER. |

Rob Kashuken
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.02.24 01:32:00 -
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Newbie here, only been in the game for about a week now, just wanted to offer my perspective on this, coming from someone who is still running L1 missions and mining Vesp in a Venture.
I'm coming into Eve as a refugee from another MMO that's gone downhill pretty badly in the last couple of years, I was told about Eve by those that prefer a challenge, and just on the learning curve, Eve is that, which is very good.
Before coming in, I did my research on the game, read up on it for a couple of weeks before downloading the client. Heard a lot of stories of the epic long cons, the huge fights started over trivialities, read about market activities that could rival stock market day-traders activities. Read up on Intel stories, about what sorts of things tend to tip people off.
Yeah, they're the exceptional stories, but at the end of the days, 'news' isn't about the boring mining runs. That's what we hear, and what a lot of newer players have heard about, and are cautious as a result. We're busy learning, knowing that we're an easy mark for scams involving some game mechanic that we're struggling to comprehend (contracts are a great example of this) , so there's a heightened sense of caution.
Often, local chat in hi-sec areas is either useless for mass spam (eg: Jita), or 101 other newies that don't know what we're doing either, which is why Rookie Chat is there for.
Plus, talking in there either gets you bountied (also happens in NPC started Corp chat), which can be off-putting - the tuts don't seem to refer to those sorts of game mechanics, took me ages to realise that the minimum bounty on me generally means squat.
The only local chat that was actually helpful that I've found is the one around Arnon, where the SoE 'encourages' fleeting in order to to the Dagan mission.
Aside from that, the general impression that I've come away with from reading up on the game is that if you fly under the radar, you'll be fine, if you're noticed, you become a target. Which is why newbies are also somewhat discouraged from going to low/nullsec initially, because when they jaunt into the system on their newly acquired frigate, they die rapidly, often as an afterthought. Hell, I've seen people in Rookie Chat not wanting to do the SoE simply because they have to route through 0.5 space.
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Felicity Love
Whore and Peace Forsaken Asylum
1535
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Posted - 2014.02.24 02:02:00 -
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Ilovetomine wrote: I think it is so strange that the people of empire are just so silent. I see them come and go, I see them go places; belts, missions, anoms, you name it. And not a word is said. People will reject convos, block you over mails, or just greet you with some sort of frantic paranoia.
But not in empire... Isn't it quiet?? Or is it just me??
Didn't you get the memo ? Most "people" in Empire are just Null alts grinding ISK until the next 12-hour fleet fight grinds them into poverty again.
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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One Eyed Runner
State War Academy Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2014.02.24 10:06:00 -
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Rhiannon Marius wrote:Ralen Zateki wrote:Pix Severus wrote:Years of ganking, long cons, and wardecs over trivial matters have taken their toll. High sec dwellers have learned to shut their mouths, lest they become a target.
That, and most of them are AFK at any given time. Sorry... could you repeat that? I was AFK.... That there are a lot of people are afk is a fact, however some of us use it as little more than an intel channel because it is full of e-peen waving and scams.
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